Everything Wrong with the Tanks in Super Mario Odyssey.

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  • čas přidán 16. 09. 2020
  • So I never liked how the tanks in Super Mario Odyssey control, but I was never able to really pinpoint what was wrong with them. That was until recently, because recently I decided to investigate this huge Super Mario Odyssey mystery! In this video we will take a look at the shocking* truth about the tanks in Super Mario Odyssey. We will not only discuss every aspect of the tank capture in way too much detail, but we will also unravel why the tanks in Super Mario Odyssey feel so bad to control.
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  • @jexami
    @jexami Před 3 lety +2376

    I’m very interested to see how “the tanks in Mario Odyssey are bad” becomes a 20 minute video

    • @federico339
      @federico339 Před 3 lety +225

      Well, it is actually surprisingly simple

    • @notregisteredname7393
      @notregisteredname7393 Před 3 lety +43

      You gave him an idea, Hoo-ray

    • @notregisteredname7393
      @notregisteredname7393 Před 3 lety +43

      Next video, Soo I was scripting a video on the ground in Mario bros u, and then... i started scripting the part about grass, and then I stopped scripting the part about grass

    • @blokvader8283
      @blokvader8283 Před 3 lety +4

      I like your profile picture, Jonathan boi

    • @geschnitztekiste4111
      @geschnitztekiste4111 Před 3 lety +14

      @@notregisteredname7393 You could actually make the grass in NSMBU into a video, because it always bugged me how the grass in the background didn't match that in the foreground, and I'd like to see an in-depht explanation on why that is.

  • @bradyk6017
    @bradyk6017 Před 3 lety +450

    I swear, every "Pew pew" in this video had a different emotion attached to it

    • @thomascanning1127
      @thomascanning1127 Před 3 lety +3

      Can someone leave timestamps pls

    • @bradyk6017
      @bradyk6017 Před 3 lety +12

      @@thomascanning1127 I watched it in 4x speed so I might have missed some, here's what I found 3:03 3:15 10:32 11:12

    • @rokeofool
      @rokeofool Před 3 lety +4

      @@bradyk6017 12:08

    • @bradyk6017
      @bradyk6017 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Chad_Eldridge There isn't actually anything to see, I was just making a silly joke about the way Ceave says "pew pew"

  • @Number1YankeeFan
    @Number1YankeeFan Před 3 lety +717

    You didn’t even mention that the crosshair is so large that it’s effectively useless for aiming

    • @Michael-The-Composer
      @Michael-The-Composer Před 3 lety +34

      Yeah I hated that

    • @dragonbanana1
      @dragonbanana1 Před 3 lety +41

      also that in order to shoot you have to take your thumb off the joystick so you can no longer adjust the shot for just the split second before firing which makes any kind of moving target way harder to hit. it ends up feeling similar to how input lag feels to me, and you're essentially forced to use the motion controls that feel like they do nothing to make any last moment adjustments

    • @fatiyahe
      @fatiyahe Před 3 lety

      420 likes

    • @RichConnerGMN
      @RichConnerGMN Před rokem +1

      @@dragonbanana1 nice pfp

    • @algotkristoffersson15
      @algotkristoffersson15 Před rokem

      @@dragonbanana1 or just press rhe button using another finger

  • @SorcerorNobody
    @SorcerorNobody Před 3 lety +227

    Of course the other issue with the tank "overheating" as an excuse for the shot limit is that you can spam shots into a wall and not overheat, but you do overheat from firing three shots into the distance, which you can do comparatively slowly. And that's just conceptually inconsistent and silly.

    • @alignstars2962
      @alignstars2962 Před 3 lety +8

      It's similar to the fire flower

    • @balam314
      @balam314 Před 2 lety +7

      @@alignstars2962 Yeah, so Nintendo is really trying to tell us that the Switch isn't powerful enough to process more than 3 missiles 😂
      note, not sarcasm I'm just joking

    • @edupe6185
      @edupe6185 Před 5 měsíci

      It’s probably since the way they programmed the tank fire limit was to see if there was more than 2 bullets in the scene, and when you fire into a wall, the bullet is automatically destroyed on collision. Still pretty dumb, but there’s at least a clear reason.

  • @crimsondragon2677
    @crimsondragon2677 Před 3 lety +969

    "It's honestly just me ranting about tanks for over fifteen minutes."
    This is the quality content we subscribed for.
    And glad you're not dead. I'd thought you'd accidentally touched a coin.

    • @NeonColored
      @NeonColored Před 3 lety +73

      @@theAstarrr That doesn't prevent him from falling for a shiny, yet deadly coin. You shouldn't underestimate these evil things.

    • @infin7531
      @infin7531 Před 3 lety +13

      Didn't notice how lucky I am. I am allergic to chocolate, so I never touched those chocolate golden coins.

    • @PinguinodelRio
      @PinguinodelRio Před 3 lety +15

      A shiny, yet *deadly* coin

    • @wify0261
      @wify0261 Před 3 lety +2

      Ok what is his accent? I don't mind it usually but the character prununciation kinda bugs me

    • @wify0261
      @wify0261 Před 3 lety +1

      BAXTER MADORE oh ok thanks it's just usually I'm fine with it and it's kinda calming but idk the way he says character just kinda like I don't know.

  • @chamtheman551
    @chamtheman551 Před 3 lety +1189

    Ceave: *rants about how Tanks are dumb*
    Hammer Bros: Finally! A worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!

    • @thatonemuffin4570
      @thatonemuffin4570 Před 3 lety +12

      Yes

    • @megaball-ps8tq
      @megaball-ps8tq Před 3 lety +28

      Ceave: tanks are dumb
      hammer bros: I'm I a joke to you

    • @haronka
      @haronka Před 3 lety +14

      Tanks only have 20 minutes
      The video of Hammer Bros would be 4 parts with 40 minutes each
      Still not worthy :]

    • @viavip1940
      @viavip1940 Před 3 lety +9

      don't like hammer bros in 2d games, but odyssey made them much better

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 Před 3 lety +2

      I thought Ceave hated Sledge Bros.

  • @mirandafields3070
    @mirandafields3070 Před 3 lety +568

    "I've never drove a real tank before, in fact I do not know anyone who owns a tank"
    Ceave trying to cover up his war crimes I see
    You can't hide forever
    *we know what you did*

    • @teamawesomeness7137
      @teamawesomeness7137 Před 3 lety +10

      Ceave Gaming also defeats monsters when pretty cure aren't around.

    • @mohdadeeb1829
      @mohdadeeb1829 Před 3 lety +3

      @@teamawesomeness7137
      By Monster you mean Gavrilo Princip ?

    • @teamawesomeness7137
      @teamawesomeness7137 Před 3 lety +5

      @@mohdadeeb1829 no. I mean stuff like zakenna, uzaina, kowaina, etc.

    • @mohdadeeb1829
      @mohdadeeb1829 Před 3 lety +2

      @@teamawesomeness7137
      But he killed Your Emperor

    • @teamawesomeness7137
      @teamawesomeness7137 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mohdadeeb1829 I had no emperor in the first place

  • @oops3798
    @oops3798 Před 3 lety +90

    The worst part about tanks is that since they replicate a first-person shooter, my mind instinctively uses ZR to shoot, and I release the capture instead

    • @RichConnerGMN
      @RichConnerGMN Před rokem +2

      nice pfp

    • @callmeobsequious
      @callmeobsequious Před rokem

      SAME

    • @Meowvela
      @Meowvela Před rokem +1

      I'm guessing ZR is the default "shoot" button in a lot of FPS games? I haven't really played anything other than Splatoon with a controller, so I never really developed a mindset for what a "shoot" button would be.
      This DOES make me realize an old PS2 game I played as a kid was trying for that... with a sword of all things!

    • @naiarabibi2015
      @naiarabibi2015 Před 11 měsíci

      No father figure profile picture

  • @alittleinsanity9245
    @alittleinsanity9245 Před 3 lety +756

    “I’ve never driven a tank in real life” hmmmmmmm sounds like something someone who’s driven a tank before would say

    • @saucesaucesaucesauce1380
      @saucesaucesaucesauce1380 Před 3 lety +5

      *(edited)*

    • @KnuckleHunkybuck
      @KnuckleHunkybuck Před 3 lety +40

      That sounds to me like the exact opposite of what someone who's driven a tank would say if you ask me. If I had ever driven a tank, I assure you I would find any excuse possible to share that information, much like I do with having fired a Mk 19 grenade launcher. Because I have; I've fired a Mk 19 grenade launcher, just so you know.

    • @TaIathar
      @TaIathar Před 3 lety +13

      @@saucesaucesaucesauce1380 Let people have their typos.

    • @mohdadeeb1829
      @mohdadeeb1829 Před 3 lety +2

      Austria has mandatory conscription , that means he drove tanks at some part of his life

    • @alittleinsanity9245
      @alittleinsanity9245 Před 3 lety +2

      SelectorOfSouls nah dude at first I forgot the last 2 words

  • @Xetheon
    @Xetheon Před 3 lety +477

    Whenever ceave tries to do a ranking, he makes a side video about how something is dumb.

    • @mostdefinitelynotaguineapi7566
      @mostdefinitelynotaguineapi7566 Před 3 lety +7

      This is only the second time.

    • @nickedname_2158
      @nickedname_2158 Před 3 lety +16

      Guinea Pigs Are Cute party pooper

    • @marcusmendesmontano7167
      @marcusmendesmontano7167 Před 3 lety +19

      @@mostdefinitelynotaguineapi7566 "if i had a nickel for every time Ceave made a ranting vid because he was making a tier-list and gound something super dumb , i would have 2 nickels"
      "thats not much , but its weird that it happened twice"

    • @susamogus8331
      @susamogus8331 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marcusmendesmontano7167 ay nice phineas and ferb reference

    • @Nimzo25
      @Nimzo25 Před 3 lety

      Xetheon Sounds like this:
      Double D in Ed’s story: Blah, Blah Blah Blah! Yab Yab blah blah, dripple dripple!

  • @Efretpkk
    @Efretpkk Před 3 lety +99

    2:43 What was that sound!!!!? It freaked me out, sounded like something in my house. Thought there was something inside (using earbuds)

    • @LeeTwentyThree
      @LeeTwentyThree Před 3 lety +3

      same

    • @MoldyBread121
      @MoldyBread121 Před 3 lety +9

      It freaked me out, i had a heart attack

    • @HearcliffOW
      @HearcliffOW Před 3 lety +9

      That shit almost gave me a heart attack.

    • @castonyoung7514
      @castonyoung7514 Před 3 lety +6

      I swear I didn't hear that until I clicked on the time. And I watched that part of the video twice.

    • @lighter11261
      @lighter11261 Před 3 lety

      I was searching the comment section for this! I completely agree!

  • @theultimateantihero
    @theultimateantihero Před 3 lety +85

    Ceave always sounds professional whenever he's talking about games. That is until he starts saying stuff like this. XD
    2:55

    • @luigitrollface
      @luigitrollface Před 3 lety +14

      shooty shooty bang bang

    • @__8120
      @__8120 Před 3 lety +8

      Or "I don't need realistic controls for my mind controlled mustache tank"

  • @viewera
    @viewera Před 3 lety +528

    Ceave: It's honestly just me ranting about tanks for over 15 min
    Me: thats the content i came for

    • @infin7531
      @infin7531 Před 3 lety +1

      we're at the perfect number, don't mess this up.

    • @andrewj1754
      @andrewj1754 Před 3 lety +1

      You missed the 'awesome' afterwards. Perfection.

    • @lagg1e
      @lagg1e Před 3 lety +1

      That's.........why I'm here

  • @kadincool
    @kadincool Před 3 lety +666

    Ceave: I'm going to rant about tanks for no reason
    Me with my limited break: this sounds like a good use of my life

  • @gummybread
    @gummybread Před 3 lety +136

    "i dont even know anyone who owns a REAL tank"
    the fact that ceave even felt they had to say said that makes me believe they do in fact know someone who owns a tank

    • @drago3036
      @drago3036 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, that's how it sounded to most people XD

    • @lighttank3905
      @lighttank3905 Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe, hitler?

    • @jebalitabb8228
      @jebalitabb8228 Před 3 lety +2

      It’s not that hard to own a tank if you have the money for it. In Texas you can own one, it just has to have it’s weapons disabled so it can’t shoot anything

    • @fuzz1252
      @fuzz1252 Před 3 lety

      The USA does

    • @kilachiki538
      @kilachiki538 Před 3 lety

      @@jebalitabb8228 you cann have its gun work you just have to get the proper license for it

  • @novaroseoooooo
    @novaroseoooooo Před 3 lety +25

    I haven't thought about Odyssey in forever, but I can viscerally feel the frustration of trying to aim in that tank 😰

  • @Joukster
    @Joukster Před 3 lety +1293

    Everyone: YESS 3D ALL STARS IS COMING OUT TOMORROW!!!
    Ceave: Everything wrong with the tanks in Super Mario Oddysey
    glad you’re back Ceave

    • @labninja231
      @labninja231 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah I'm glad hes back too

    • @sergeantguy8887
      @sergeantguy8887 Před 3 lety +2

      Never change

    • @sirbob430
      @sirbob430 Před 3 lety +4

      I agree completely. But still....YESS 3D ALL STARS IS COMING OUT TOMORROW!!!

    • @megaball-ps8tq
      @megaball-ps8tq Před 3 lety +2

      I'm glad Ceave gaming finally uploaded after all these months

    • @goombalo10
      @goombalo10 Před 3 lety +11

      Wow, 3 emulations for $60, how epic

  • @spoonninja2330
    @spoonninja2330 Před 3 lety +513

    The game series "metro" does the X Y sensitivity difference on purpose to make the game feel claustrophobic to great effect. It doesn't fit into a mario game tho

    • @Rosie_Cozy
      @Rosie_Cozy Před 3 lety +7

      Is metro that one game in gamepass?

    • @starblade8719
      @starblade8719 Před 3 lety +22

      Wait...metro...METRO KINGDOM!

    • @TheRealWilliamWhite
      @TheRealWilliamWhite Před 3 lety +2

      @@Rosie_Cozy he's talking about the post apocalyptic games Metro: 2033, Metro: Last Light, and Metro: Exodus.

    • @exterminator9676
      @exterminator9676 Před 3 lety +8

      Honestly in general I think the X direction should be slightly faster than the Y direction, since there's more to cover in the X direction than the Y direction. Obviously don't make the difference jarring, just very slight

    • @Rosie_Cozy
      @Rosie_Cozy Před 3 lety +1

      TheRealWilliamWhite that’s what I’m talking about

  • @LiamWins
    @LiamWins Před 3 lety +71

    Ceave confirmed to be one of those guys who just bomb arrows everything in BOTW

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 Před 3 lety +3

      Really, when it is isn’t raining, why not? BOTW discourages you from fighting a lot, like the most in Zelda.

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade Před rokem

      Just use Magnesis and throw metal in their face. Zero resource consumption

  • @dekucake4395
    @dekucake4395 Před 3 lety +24

    Ceave: I'm just gonna rant about tanks for 20 minutes
    Everyone: *_that's... why I'm here_*

  • @raedev
    @raedev Před 3 lety +347

    I'm guessing the axis problems with the tank aim is due to the game engine, which makes me think the tanks were added later in development. In 3rd person platformers the camera follows the character's movement (the important part of a 3d platformer) so if you really want to push the camera one way, you would need less speed because it's already turning a bit on its own to follow the character's movement. Even more amplified by how far the camera is from the character, and the fact that even in the most vertical-focused platformers you'll be doing a lot of horizontal shenanigans to move vertically - simply because the thing holding you down and that makes the game hard, gravity, is going vertically. So, the vertical camera is less restricted because it has to move far less, and if you * want * to move it it needs more speed.
    Now imagine a perfectly tweaked camera for this system, that works flawlessly for a 3rd person platformer, and stick it close to the character instead, and make it a prominent factor with aim rather than something that is secondary to the main movement of the character: no matter how much they tweak it it won't work. They'd need it to be a separate camera system, which requires more time and more possible bugs to debug. Either they didn't consider it worth the time investment - which isn't very Nintendo, especially with how much effort they put into Odyssey - or the tanks were added late in development and, since the aim just felt "a little off" they stuck with it instead of spending time making the perfect system and risking more bugs and dev time.
    EDIT: the fact that aim is broken even with motion controls makes me think even more that this was a late addition.

    • @BananabroJr
      @BananabroJr Před 3 lety +22

      I never thought about cameras this way. It was really interesting

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 Před 3 lety +9

      I wish I would put some time and effort into reading all this.

    • @raedev
      @raedev Před 3 lety +20

      @@amazingfireboy1848 tl;dr the camera in most platformers, this included, has special tweaks making it to rotate when the player rotates, but only on the horizontal axis. i suspect the tanks were added later in development both due to the buggy gyro controls, and the fact that the camera behaves as if it was a platformer camera but set to fps.

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 Před 3 lety +3

      @@raedev thx

    • @cavemann_
      @cavemann_ Před 3 lety +2

      However both things shouldn't be related. It shouldn't be that hard to add a second camera with different settings. And it's not that hard to make the transition seamless either, simply switch to the camera once the transition is done, and the image gets close enough. Even then, what's stopping Nintendo from giving a single camera more than 1 "mode"? No idea.

  • @Jo560hs
    @Jo560hs Před 3 lety +137

    (World of tanks ad plays at the beginning)
    Ceave: "So, I never liked the tanks..."

    • @yellowbananago
      @yellowbananago Před 3 lety +1

      Haha

    • @anshroid
      @anshroid Před 3 lety +2

      CZcams ad recommendation go BRRRRRRRRRR

    • @punbug4721
      @punbug4721 Před 3 lety +5

      Ceave: _puts "Tanks" in title and sets category as Gaming_
      World of Tanks: "It's free real estate."

    • @ELing-ib1ki
      @ELing-ib1ki Před 3 lety

      All the tank nerds (maybe including me): now what kind of tank is it? M60? ISU-152? etc. etc.
      Edit: I just realized it's supposed to reference an M4 Sherman

    • @federico339
      @federico339 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ELing-ib1ki It's not inspired by any real life tank
      Of course the boxy hull could be reminiscent of a Tiger, the square turret might be inspired by one of the british cruisers (maybe something like a Cromwell turret, which is in line with the riveted armour), but the whole gun mantlet assembly is more similar to an early Sherman or something like an A-13 or even a Pz IV.
      But TBH it still looks like a boxified 105mm Sherman

  • @atomiclight8574
    @atomiclight8574 Před 3 lety +50

    Half of his videos now are just gonna be:
    "I was writing a script for a video and then I came across this:"

  • @Ziggyzaggy300
    @Ziggyzaggy300 Před 3 lety +7

    tank: * gets fuzzy coupon * tank: * shoots 3 pew pews in the air in celebration * yay i'm gonna go redeem it! Wait , i can't move

  • @daboyo6
    @daboyo6 Před 3 lety +115

    Ceeve - "This is a 15 min rant about why i hate tanks"
    Me - perfection

    • @acon70
      @acon70 Před 3 lety +1

      Actually 18 minutes.

  • @eltonsstuff
    @eltonsstuff Před 3 lety +652

    Breath of the Wild in a Ceave video?
    Now that's what I wanna see!

  • @Ocarinist_Drew
    @Ocarinist_Drew Před 3 lety +17

    There's another problem with the tank that only affects a minority of games--myself included. See, when I'm playing a 3D game with a 3rd person camera, I need to play with the X-axis inverted. I think it's because in 3rd person, my brain perceives the camera as a physical object that's orbiting behind Mario. When I press left, the CAMERA should move left, which allows me to see to the right. (This used to be the default for 3D Mario games back in the day btw. I'm pissed they changed it in All Stars and didn't give us the option to change it back.) BUT, when I'm playing a game in 1st person (or over-the-shoulder), I need the X-axis UNinverted, because now my brain perceives the camera as the character's eyes. If I press left, my CHARACTER should swivel left, allowing me to see to the left.
    Nintendo did not give us camera settings for both 3rd person AND 1st person. This absolutely RUINED the tanks for me. When I played the game casually, I dreaded using the tanks, because I had to either deal with the backwords-ass controls, or pause the game and change the camera settings, just for a few minutes at most, and then change them back once I was out of the tank. Now, I've been speedrunning the game for close to two years, and I've begrudgingly gotten used to the backwords-ass tank camera controls (because of course Mecha-Wiggler is one of the few bosses in the game that you can't skip), but this is absurd. This should be considered an accessibility problem. I know I'm in a minority, but I'm certainly not the only one who has this problem. Everyone has a different idea of what feels "normal" for camera controls.

    • @averagechapstick
      @averagechapstick Před 3 lety +3

      Yes I can't play Breath of the Wild without inverted camera.

    • @wellshit9489
      @wellshit9489 Před rokem

      This is both exceptionally interesting and makes perfect sense. I've never thought of it like that.

  • @watsgoinonhere1
    @watsgoinonhere1 Před 3 lety +53

    The last thing that makes them dumb, that you forgot to mention: You have to press X or Y to fire... but to aim you have to use the right analog stick (or the bad gyro). What are you supposed to do? Snap your index finger over the front of the controller to press x? I'm using my thumb to aim, I can't use it to press X! So you kinda have to stop aiming for a split second before you can fire. WHY??? Why not just bind it to right trigger like EVERY SHOOTING GAME EVER?? "because that kicks you out of the capture" Then make an exception for this one! The camera is different, the mechanics are different, MAKE THE BUTTONS DIFFERENT!!

    • @kingpeachpunk8046
      @kingpeachpunk8046 Před 3 lety +1

      Nintendo doesn't like making kids use guns, that's why the labo be gun has a trigger on the back

    • @kingpeachpunk8046
      @kingpeachpunk8046 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Chad_Eldridge in a simpler time, yes

    • @alysdexia
      @alysdexia Před 2 lety

      that makes them speechleas? Why can't you move your forefinger down?

  • @sickcookie6718
    @sickcookie6718 Před 3 lety +39

    Ceave: I don't know anyone who owns a tank
    Me: Wow,
    we're basically the same person

  • @techydoo-dah8883
    @techydoo-dah8883 Před 3 lety +128

    "it's honestly just me ranting about tanks for 15 minutes" Rant away my man rant away.......

  • @rexythet.rexfromjpreadabou186

    Nintendo: “Play the nintended way”
    Also niitntedo: “horrible tank controls, that’s what we want!

    • @TaIathar
      @TaIathar Před 3 lety +7

      The controls are copy/paste from Banjo Tooie's egg-aim attack

    • @TheShizzlemop
      @TheShizzlemop Před 3 lety +2

      @@TaIathar i dont think they copy pasted code from the nintendo 64

    • @the_neto06
      @the_neto06 Před 3 lety

      _"Did you mean _*_unintended_*_ ?"_

    • @101Henchmen
      @101Henchmen Před 3 lety +2

      NIITNTEDO

  • @mctooch
    @mctooch Před 3 lety +46

    Omg when i saw “aiming bat” on the sinful flipchart i paused and was like scratchin my head then i got over it and then u fix it im dead

    • @joepod
      @joepod Před 3 lety +10

      He also fixed "kardinal"

    • @Aostrele
      @Aostrele Před 3 lety

      Yeah it’s weird

    • @shadtowa8986
      @shadtowa8986 Před 3 lety

      @@Aostrele Weird? More like comidocal genius

    • @Aostrele
      @Aostrele Před 3 lety

      @@shadtowa8986 wot

  • @fracturedemperoror
    @fracturedemperoror Před 3 lety +114

    me: clicks on the video
    world of tanks ad: *oh hello i hear you wanted tanks*

    • @no_4259
      @no_4259 Před 3 lety +3

      War Thunder sponsorships: h e n l o

    • @Prism195
      @Prism195 Před 3 lety

      @Raiden Lowry same

  • @duckwiththumbs6788
    @duckwiththumbs6788 Před 3 lety +122

    I just refreshed youtube and this showed up! I'm so glad you're back, Ceave.

  • @beardlessdragon
    @beardlessdragon Před 3 lety +73

    Me: "hmm, not sure this topic is interesting enough to last 18 minutes"
    *sees it's from Ceave*
    Me: "oh, this'll be very interesting"

  • @arnavvirani9873
    @arnavvirani9873 Před 3 lety +5

    2:56 *Shooty Shooty Bang Bang Controls* XD
    I love you Ceave, never change.

  • @levithe2nd
    @levithe2nd Před 3 lety +46

    3:04 "for a bittle lit"
    -ceave gaming, 2020

    • @wesley8055
      @wesley8055 Před 3 lety +3

      I heard it too XD

    • @StellarSpacey
      @StellarSpacey Před 3 lety +2

      Incredible

    • @lilguy6065
      @lilguy6065 Před 3 lety +2

      i thought i was the only one who noticed lol

    • @calansmith655
      @calansmith655 Před 3 lety +4

      I read your comment as “for a little bit” and had to listen to 3:04 to realize he said it wrong and I read it wrong

    • @midnight2029
      @midnight2029 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah, he says that

  • @elliotanderson324
    @elliotanderson324 Před 3 lety +26

    3:04 Bittle Lit has returned

  • @ash_rock
    @ash_rock Před 3 lety +8

    I would actually love to hear an analysis of the problematic aspects of the other captures! I think there's a lot of them that we all understand don't function well, but it's hard to figure out what part of them is the problem.

  • @Rebateman
    @Rebateman Před 3 lety +14

    Ceave: "The tanks are a reference to a WW2 tank, which is a weird reference for a Mario game."
    BDG: *flies over a banned by the UN trap in Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2*

  • @UltraCboy
    @UltraCboy Před 3 lety +54

    15:15 C’mon, Ceave, you really need to buy more Fuzzies if you know you’ll be doing another video like this. I’ve heard they’ll be coming back in stock soon.

    • @mansifacio5458
      @mansifacio5458 Před 3 lety +3

      They already are back in stock on buydozfuzzies.com

    • @PhilippHorwat
      @PhilippHorwat Před 3 lety +3

      @@mansifacio5458 You are lieing, this website isn't reachable!

    • @joepod
      @joepod Před 3 lety +5

      @@PhilippHorwat Only the pure of heart can see it.

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 Před 3 lety +1

      Quarentine man. Everything stopped

    • @benhuang2773
      @benhuang2773 Před 3 lety +5

      Fuzzies are limited run, after March next year they're gone forever.

  • @museca5127
    @museca5127 Před 3 lety +32

    17:40
    I love how he puts these little details in the video.
    They make the video richer, and also much more fun to watch.
    Thank you for the quality, thanks for improving my quality of life, stay safe.
    P.S. Loved the spelling corrections XD

  • @PinguinodelRio
    @PinguinodelRio Před 3 lety +6

    I always felt like the tanks were clunky and didn’t flow with the gameplay as well as other captures. It’s nice to see you make an analysis on them.

  • @GHorta-dp2km
    @GHorta-dp2km Před 3 lety +11

    Hey Ceave, I’ve always wondered: where do you get all your fuzzy beetles? Aren’t they hard to move around, since you take damage if you touch them? They seem very hard to move in the games.

  • @matijatoskic6491
    @matijatoskic6491 Před 3 lety +58

    Gee, *tank* god Ceave came back.
    edit: *Tanks* for the likes, but this pun still leaves *mush room* for improvement.

  • @bryceyj1
    @bryceyj1 Před 3 lety +110

    Everything wrong with tanks in one word:
    *everything*

  • @colinstorzbach6105
    @colinstorzbach6105 Před 3 lety +47

    The real problem is that the tanks are called "sherms" when they clearly are of Soviet design

    • @ACID_
      @ACID_ Před 3 lety +5

      I also hate that he calls the shells "missiles" or "bullets" ;)

    • @federico339
      @federico339 Před 3 lety +13

      What makes you think that?
      On the lower hull you can clearly see the classic sherman rounded construction, not something found in soviet tanks (the roundess of the KV series is much less pronounced and don't try to argue that's some early IS series design, it clearly isn't).
      The turret is a bit russian like, because of the mantlet but that's it, I wouldn't call it "clearly a soviet design". Seems like they've seen some pictures of the most well known WWII tanks and based their own creation on that...

    • @jesuizanmich
      @jesuizanmich Před 3 lety +6

      It's even worse because it's called "sherm" in various languages. In Italian it's a pun ("Carlo armato"), it's also a pun in French ("Charlu"), but almost everyone else has "sherm" or a variant of "sherm".
      They obviously went for "generic tank look", but it looks Japanese to me. Bolted construction, big mushroom-shaped cupola, that bolted gun mount, sloped panels on the corners of the hull, it looks like a cartoony Type 97 and Type 3. Only the rounded front could be a reference to the Sherman's differential covers.

    • @federico339
      @federico339 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jesuizanmich is it really Carlo Armato???? Ahahahahaha that's so funny

    • @anon9469
      @anon9469 Před rokem

      ...And are driven by someone who "should" be driving an Axis tank.

  • @djh321
    @djh321 Před 3 lety +6

    Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but going into your settings and changing aim sensitivity to high greatly helps the gyro aim controls for the tank. The wiggler fight especially is significantly better because you can actually aim up right like you describe in the first point of the video

  • @ethohalfslab
    @ethohalfslab Před 3 lety +41

    Ceave: Nooo, you can't just ignore my inputs!
    Tank: haha tracks go chhhhhhh.

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic Před 3 lety +1

      ... I'm not complaining, but ... how in the heck do you have 22 subs? I'm baffled, but impressed.

    • @ethohalfslab
      @ethohalfslab Před 3 lety +1

      @@austinfletchermusic I've been active in youtube comments for the past 7 years. I've just slowly gained like 1 sub randomly every 3-4 months~

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic Před 3 lety +1

      @@ethohalfslab Well, good for you! Good luck on getting more, I guess!

  • @Zetalight16
    @Zetalight16 Před 3 lety +59

    So, in regards to a lot of these points it feels like most of the tank's issues come from compromises more than anything. Specifically,
    Reticle moves vertically on the screen instead of staying centered, leading to mismatched X/Y aiming -> this was probably to prevent extreme camera angles or even worse versions of making the tank transparent as shown in the boss fight
    Aim acceleration on the horizontal axis only -> aim acceleration is pretty bad in general, but with no control to aim down the sights, the same camera input has to be used for precise aiming and turns of up to 180 degrees. It would take forever to turn if it was slow, and be impossible to aim if it was fast
    Gyro control failures -> no design excuse for this one, but if they had to tack gyro on late in development it could certainly cause these problems
    Shooting interrupts movement -> usually used to add to the sense of impact of heavy attacks. In the worst case, an attempt at realism gone very wrong.
    Bullets travel too slowly -> Mario's bullets travel at about the same speed as enemy tanks' bullets
    Max 3 bullets on screen -> this is usually either a technical or balance issue, though technical is unlikely given the ability to spam bullets into walls and spawn particles. It would be an odd choice for balance with the exception of the boss fight, which would be trivial to spam down without a shot limit
    I don't disagree that the design is bad, though. A lot of these that appear to be compromises also seem unpolished to me, and it definitely could have used more time and consideration. The weird thing to me is that they don't seem to be patching gyro..

    • @henryfriendlich8041
      @henryfriendlich8041 Před 3 lety +2

      This comment is amazing

    • @mytiliss682
      @mytiliss682 Před 3 lety +3

      I wonder why they made different aiming on axis but didn't made separated crosshair for point where cannon aimed so player have comfortable aiming but have to wait till cannon turn around, very common way to handle aiming from slow things in FPS.

  • @nikoxy4510
    @nikoxy4510 Před 3 lety +25

    I accidently hurt the like button, but don't worry! I put a bandage on it.

  • @tourtle1497
    @tourtle1497 Před 3 lety +12

    “It’s just me ranting about tanks for 15 minutes”
    *likes the video*

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom Před 3 lety +24

    I guess you could say that for Ceave, the tanks were super..... Odd to see

  • @geothepoly
    @geothepoly Před 3 lety +48

    "My least favorite tank in any mario game"
    *Laughs in SMB3 W8 tank level*

  • @blueberry1c2
    @blueberry1c2 Před 3 lety +1

    One detail on the Sherms that I like is the inclusion of the small loops mounted on the front and back. These were a part of real Shermans and it allowed them to be hoisted by a crane onto a ship where they would travel to wherever they were needed

  • @The-EJ-Factor
    @The-EJ-Factor Před 3 lety +7

    2:40 absolutely terrified me with headphones.

  • @joshuaevans4301
    @joshuaevans4301 Před 3 lety +5

    I actually really like the tanks :O I always grab one whenever I can and drive them around as much as possible. The controls are _much_ better using two separated joycon motion controls, which I always use

  • @orcagames1124
    @orcagames1124 Před 3 lety +49

    First thing wrong with tanks “sherm”

  • @VirtualMarmalade
    @VirtualMarmalade Před 3 lety +2

    I think the tank actually controls like this because you can aim horizontally by moving the tank, but that doesn't really work when aiming vertically bc, well, the tank is locked to the ground. It starts out slow so you have some fine control to hit targets that are close, but it then accelerates so that you can actually turn around quickly after a brief delay.

  • @Alby379
    @Alby379 Před 3 lety +17

    "do you want a tank?"
    "No, tanks."

    • @uiinpui
      @uiinpui Před 3 lety +1

      𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗥𝗘 𝗚𝗢𝗘𝗦 𝗠𝗬 𝗕𝗥𝗔𝗜𝗡

    • @uiinpui
      @uiinpui Před 3 lety +1

      Wait i commented that?

  • @poisonouspotato1623
    @poisonouspotato1623 Před 3 lety +9

    Everyone is talking about sherm tank but not about how he used bomb arrows to kill a boar

    • @Bass_Goat53
      @Bass_Goat53 Před 3 lety

      The answer is surprisingly simple

  • @luminescentgem7254
    @luminescentgem7254 Před 3 lety +20

    7:00 surely he ended up running out of stamina, falling and losing all his lives.

  • @frsl771
    @frsl771 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm really glad I'm not the only one who dreads using tanks and even thought the motion controls just outright didn't work. How does that happen?! Also, really great that you're back on CZcams man. It's been great seeing you in my sub box again!

  • @InsaniquarianDeluxe
    @InsaniquarianDeluxe Před 3 lety +1

    I am SO GLAD that you enjoy motion controls as well. I love the feeling of aiming in BotW and I always hate when people just assume that motion controls = bad. I think so many games could be improved with them and I think that there could be amazing games which use motion controls as the main controls, especially with the strides that are being seen in the use of physics that we see in VR games and indie games.
    More motion controls please :)

  • @IkkezzUsedEmber
    @IkkezzUsedEmber Před 3 lety +86

    Ceave, you have to stop, if you keep massacaring power-ups/captures like this you will end up making a video on the blue shell from new super mario bros

  • @Menon836
    @Menon836 Před 3 lety +8

    Ceave: It's me ranting for 15 minutes.
    Me: I'll take 20.

  • @awesomness6775
    @awesomness6775 Před 3 lety +4

    4:47 I wasn't expecting to get so emotional here. Some people may just see a simple change between two songs, but others, like myself, know more about what the second track represents.
    I won't spoil anything for people who are still playing Origami King, but for those of you who have played it, you know what I'm talking about.

    • @uiinpui
      @uiinpui Před 3 lety +1

      then what song is it?

  • @sticksbender4057
    @sticksbender4057 Před 3 lety +1

    12:00 the 3 bullet limit is actually a throwback to the old “Wii Play” game, where the tank mini game only allowed 3 bullets per tank on the field at once.

  • @luminescentgem7254
    @luminescentgem7254 Před 3 lety +52

    Ok sorry I’m just gonna say that : cool to see you back!

  • @SlashJaye
    @SlashJaye Před 3 lety +7

    4:36 Finally i realized why it took me 30 minutes to beat the mecha-wiggler

    • @d3-penguin954
      @d3-penguin954 Před 3 lety +1

      30 minutes?

    • @SlashJaye
      @SlashJaye Před 3 lety +2

      @@d3-penguin954 i woke up at ike 7am, hopped on my nintendo switch with mario odyssey and started trying to the boos for like 30 minutes, finally i did it it took like 30 minutes or longer idk

    • @OwlpoAnimations
      @OwlpoAnimations Před 3 lety

      MartinZ i beat the mecha-wiggled in like 5-10 minutes. It was easy for me to aim

    • @zandbergx9747
      @zandbergx9747 Před 3 lety +1

      @@OwlpoAnimations Is that you trying to flex or something

  • @winterstelling7837
    @winterstelling7837 Před 3 lety

    New layout for the "are you ready? Let's do this" bit. Looks great!

  • @claudiogonzalezmontoy8330

    Man the "rusty box" sound effect scared the shit out of me with headphones lol. Tought someone broke into my house or something.

  • @Jakewebmaster8
    @Jakewebmaster8 Před 3 lety +17

    How does Ceave not want WW3 to happen?
    Ceave: Well it's actually surprisingly simple

  • @Lexzim9098
    @Lexzim9098 Před 3 lety +9

    Ceave Gaming is back with another strong upload boiiiiii. Also, I miss Super Mario Odyssey so much

  • @spysoldierscout4562
    @spysoldierscout4562 Před 3 lety +1

    Another factor to account for with the bad aiming is the crosshair movement from a HUD standpoint: When looking left and right, it always stays perfectly centered, but when aiming up or down, the crosshair also moves up or down on your screen, possibly being the very reason for the asymmetric speed of the axes.

  • @tommomcgeorge4325
    @tommomcgeorge4325 Před 3 lety +1

    So glad to see you making videos again I LOVE your content

  • @hexagon1phoenix551
    @hexagon1phoenix551 Před 3 lety +3

    2:43 this sound legit scared the soul out of me

  • @Ultrapwner45
    @Ultrapwner45 Před 3 lety +3

    That vertical axis being faster than the horizontal axis is a problem that splatoon has, I hate that you can't change the x and y sensitivity seperately

  • @Octaplex_
    @Octaplex_ Před 3 lety

    I don't even have to think "awesome" when i watch your videos. You already do that for me!

  • @ZalyQQ
    @ZalyQQ Před 3 lety

    Hope you're feeling better! Glad to see you made it back to the tube

  • @callumfootitt5366
    @callumfootitt5366 Před 3 lety +179

    Yall don't need to say glad he's back its 2 weeks people
    Edit: glad to know all of you have a serious abandoned ment complex and may need to see a therapist

  • @mtoi7341
    @mtoi7341 Před 3 lety +3

    Ceave in the next video: Sooo, I was scripting a video about tiering all the wonderful and amazing power-ups in the Super Mario franchise. It's just so cool how Nintendo makes these beautiful power-ups. The Ice Flower is a magical ice ball ice attack power-up, the Cape Feather is a fun, wierd, and difficult to control in-air attack item, the lovely Acorn suit is a perfectly fine aerial power up. The cat suit is cool, and has one the most fun quirks in the game. Well, outside of Mario Maker 2, of course.
    And then, I got to the part about the Mushroom. And that was when I realized that each Mushroom is incredibly unique and diverse. The Propeller Mushroom allows for a single, powerful updrift, the Mystery Mushroom allows us to cosplay as a Green tounge-swallowing Dinosaur, the Mega Mushroom makes us grow huge and destroy everything in our path.
    So, that's when I decided that we need to rank each group of power-ups individually, starting with the Mushrooms, before we can rank them all as a group, and finally answer our eternal question: which power-up is the best, and, more importantly, which of them is the absolute worst? (spoiler alert, its not the 1-up mushroom. I know I said it was horrible in Mario Maker, but in truth, it allows you to survive yet another day in a mario game, which,, you know, is kind of important. Also spoiler alert: it's not the star either. Invincibility is boring, but its useful in certain, niche situations)

  • @Flymerick
    @Flymerick Před 3 lety

    I love how Ceave has gathered a bunch of ideas from his long vacation.
    Quality content is out of scaleeeeeee!

  • @javierborquez
    @javierborquez Před 3 lety

    That 2:50 sound was scary AF. Great video as always Ceave

  • @matijatoskic6491
    @matijatoskic6491 Před 3 lety +13

    Shooty-shooty-bang-bang game while pew-pewing blocks that go BOOM!

  • @wiiuandmii7619
    @wiiuandmii7619 Před 3 lety +3

    So is every ranking vid from now on going to be preceded with an in-depth analysis on why one thing is bad?

  • @crashb800
    @crashb800 Před 3 lety +1

    The whole thing about captures reminds me of a PS2 game called "Crash of the Titans" that is built around captures, and those captures actually feel quite good to use.

  • @princesscadance197
    @princesscadance197 Před 3 lety +1

    The tanks were my least -favorite capture. You go from running around, jumping off walls and all that, to capturing a tank, then the entire flow comes to a screeching halt as you have to stop and relearn how the tank operates every time.

  • @Joshua-wo2ey
    @Joshua-wo2ey Před 3 lety +3

    "Nintendo, what is this aiming" - videogamedunkey/ Ceave

  • @butterpiggie9624
    @butterpiggie9624 Před 3 lety +5

    Nobody:
    Ceave: "Charachtah"

  • @voidgaming3175
    @voidgaming3175 Před 3 lety +1

    Cleave: IM GONNA RANT ABOUT TANKS CAUSE OF HOW BAD THEY ARE
    us: now THIS is quality

  • @xxyourheroxx1589
    @xxyourheroxx1589 Před 3 lety

    Hey ceave loved listening to you rant about tanks for 15 minutes and loved how you said “smash the subscribe button oh wait actually don’t cause we don’t want anyone to get hurt so just press it” and i love how you incorporate asking people to subscribe in each video and how different they are keep up the good work @Ceave gaming

  • @IHateCopperGolems
    @IHateCopperGolems Před 3 lety +6

    petition for the revival of Tips, Tricks, and Ideas

  • @nacitalatincirli793
    @nacitalatincirli793 Před 3 lety +3

    can you make a video about breath of the wild? it would be interesting to see someone analyze a more complicated game than well mario

  • @red8483
    @red8483 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the vids Ceave you put a lot of life in them!!

  • @TheThundercow
    @TheThundercow Před 3 lety

    Hey Ceave, just wanna let you that this is the best video youve made so far :))

  • @red8483
    @red8483 Před 3 lety +6

    Ceave: rants about tanks in Odyssey for 20 minutes.
    Scott: Amateur

    • @shrekt8386
      @shrekt8386 Před 3 lety

      "Ceave got 20 minutes out of this?"

    • @bananacat3109
      @bananacat3109 Před 3 lety

      I mean, Scott did make a 44 minute video about boxes, if we're thinking of the same person.

    • @red8483
      @red8483 Před 3 lety

      @@bananacat3109 Oh yes

  • @ethanf3168
    @ethanf3168 Před 3 lety +8

    No one:
    Mario’s head going into the wiggler fight: *bob bob bob*

  • @taunter22nil58
    @taunter22nil58 Před 3 lety

    I mean Ik it’s not exactly your normal content, but still an 11/10. So glad ur back on CZcams Ceave

  • @culltrip
    @culltrip Před 3 lety +1

    that rusty hinge sound effect freaked me out, didn't sound like it was in my headphones
    thought my ceiling fan was about to drop on me