How To: Vance & Hines FP3 Stage 1 Install (Harley Softail FXDR)
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2019
- How to install a Vance & Hines FP3 fuel management system on a new Harley-Davidson Softail. Bike in the video is a 2019 Harley FXDR!
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I appreciate the bit about where you can relocate the tuner. Simple install, but still great tips. Thanks for sharing
I love the flag on the wall! Very cool to display that.
Boise Idaho harley will always honor your warranty. I've talked with owner, he is a great example of how you should treat customers and employees. Going to be tuning my daughters street rod first, put on a new slip on, sounds great. Have to save up money to do my low rider.
great vid...looking forward to seeing what power gains are like with the new bike
Just got my FP3 yesterday! Can't wait to wake up my Sporty!
gotta get that for mine soon. also I didn't know it read the codes too. as always awesome video
Best thing I did for my Low Rider was put the tuner on.
Open air and exhaust upgrade with the tuner turned it into a different bike.
Be a good idea to keep an eye in your FP3 app for the correct map, V & H will definitely make one specifically for the exhaust you have 👍👍😎
Good video. I've been having trouble with my FP3 on my 17 fatboy S with the 110. I just installed the bassani sweepers exhaust. Just like u had on your Lowrider S. At the dealership my bike was throwing alot of codes. that the fualpack wasnt getting. I think I need to get ahold of Vince n Hines to see what's up with it
Stage one complete. Awesome...
0:47 That FXDR is too cool! Keep going Block! :))
Great vids 😍🖤
Nice Blockhead .....doing mine Friday .....on my 17 Breakout
Excellent video
I'm trying to install Vance Hines tunner on my 2018 roadking but having a lil trouble
Really nice vid bro. Have you ever heard of HD ecu's learning new maps when you change intake and exhaust? Im skeptical and think you need a programmer. Thanks
Did you do Dyno runs stock, intake, exhaust, tune. Supprising sometimes a tune on a stock bike results in more gain than pipes. Would be interesting to see where the most gains are and how good the stock intake was.
Thanks for the videos; makes the winters go a little quicker.
I need it in my life! 🤤
Two questions: How long is that stock seat comfortable for you? Do you think taller pullback handlebars would look ok on the FXDR?
Since you guys are such gear heads i know you can help a brother out on this question. I have the FP3 and did wires and plugs, do i need to retune or should it be ok? Thankyou!! Love your channel!!
Vance and Hines Big Radius Pipes coming soon to my 2019 Fatboy. What air filter do you recommend that will work best with this Stage One?
That red 114 looks slick
That’s what I ended up doing with my FP3 on my FLSB. Just hide it between frame rail and mono shock under seat. Pain in the but
Bro .... Can we change the whole seat ??
And then change it to a bigger one like street 750/ street rod etc.,...??
Just picked up a brand new 19 FXDR and for the life of me I'm having trouble deciding what to upgrade, thoughts?
Hi blackhead
I've just bought a new 114 fatboy
I've asked them to put a Vance and Hines big radious exhaust on whilst it's in there shop
The guy said the need to remap it also
Does this mean they will be doing what you have done so a stage 1 ?
Nice informative video. Looking at the bike I wonder if there'll be a swing arm bag option & if it would even look right on this bike..? A little more storage space is always nice to have.
That would look like a leather swingarm bag on a supermoto.
Just curious, I’m assuming get lowered provided you with the fuelpak, but it’s still cool with them (get lowered) that you also provided links to purchase the tuner at revzilla ?
Can you actually do Stage 2 with Fp3 and second question if yes. Can you get same great results as Screaming eagle at dealership at Dyno ?
when I did my stage one I went with the se pro tuner just in case of warranty issues. got 2 years of warranty so don't want to jeopardize. you are pretty tight with Orlando Harley so you probably checked with them I am sure.
good video✌
Hi. I have 2017 fatboy FLSTF with cobra slipons. I want to know that FP3 will increase significant performance? I will not go for stage 2 or 3. So should i install FP3?
Now that your bike is done with exhaust and air ,you know Ms Blockhead will not wait for her new bike to be done also!! LOL
BLOCKHEAD, I've never used one b4, do you actually noticed a difference in fuel consumption with it on??
On your app you'll find that the V & H pro pipe option when selecting the map. Its a 2 into 1 pipe so you may be better off using that option, also you could contact V & H, bettet to have the correct map running rather than using generic, hope this helps . I like a at the pro pipe & it looks very similar to the Bassani 👍👍😎
@@elithegreat6463 thanks buddy 👍👍😎
Nice but I stick with my carburetor mikuni for my 111s&s. See you at fxr dyna day.
question ... when you go to hookup the FP3 and there is only 5 pins but a place for the 6th pin but no pin. is this correct or am I missing a pin for a what ever reason. help
Just to let you know. Update your firmware. Huge update happened and a lot more exhaust systems are available on the FP3. Made my day yesterday.
What happens when you have a torque cam?
Anybody have trouble finding a place to put it on a 2020 low rider s?
We’ll.. I’m sold.
What's this tunner go to? Stage 2, Stage 3?
Did my fp3 on 2018 breakout 114 yesterday with v&h pipes. Instantly sounded better smells better adjusted throttle progressivity much snappier should be stock running like this.
Yo Craig getting mine done friday same setup.....i have a 17
@@aldavis904 nice one bro youll be stoked some bark and better than factory tune
@@craigmnz117 i almost wanted the 18 ....waited what color did you get too...i wanted that blue denim with eagle on it....but ya man.....cant wait to hear it ....👊🙏🇺🇸
@@aldavis904 had to be black for me mate.
@@craigmnz117 i have grey denim ......putting on the Kahuna collection on this week too.....cant wait for the bark like you say though....
i see that rear wheel spash fender guard thing is removed now lol
Hey Blockhead, I would e-mail V&H ask them what they suggest and run a few autotuned sessions. When done you can send them the map and they will tweak it for you. FP3 is what I use for stage 1 applications, if I go bigger stage 2 cams etc then I would use Power Vision or Thundermax. I think you will be fine enjoy or channel.
Blockhead, why did you choose that tuner? Can you PW protect that so some chump can't just roll up and retune your bike? Pretty sure that auto tune will just try to change your AFR to 14.7:1 since you only have 12mm O2 sensors. Good for mileage, crappy for performance. Also, I'll swap you timing covers from an FXFBS for the one from your FXDR. Let me know... thanks for the vid.
I'll be interested to know if you have any issues in the heat. I have a 2018 street bob, live in Vegas, and after my engine was good and hot if I filled up on gas and immediately started riding it would go into limp mode after ~1 mile. It didn't happen if I let it sit a little after fueling. This issue persisted even after getting a new ECM and and changing tuners to the DynoJet Power vision. Still no resolution for me. I just take my time when gassing up now.
I have this FP3 on my 17 Iron 883, I live in Vegas too. Heat hasn't been a problem for it. I have this thing tucked into my battery cover area.
I wanted him so bad to say at 9:00 "For those that don't know what that means your warrantee is not void". Great vid. How is that fuel pack treating you. Was looking into that one too! Please let us know how you like it!
I see you took off the rear fender, nice.
I have a 2019 street bob. I want to put a new exhaust do I need a fuel pack if I'm just putting a exhaust
Just mufflers, no. Full system, Yes
The FP3 seems easy to install, but doesn’t it void your factory warranty? And you spoke of having previous experience with these tuners... I have the MoCo’s Street Tuner (cuz warranty) with my stage 1, but would like to use the FP3 with an aftermarket cam, do you know of any ECM “marriage” issues from going from the Street tuner to the FP3?
Some dealers care that you use a tuner and aftermarket parts, some don't. Marriage isn't a problem. Basically it just locks that tuner to that VIN number. That way you can't but one and go tune everyone's bike.
What is the typical MPG loss on a 2019 FLTRXS doing a Stage 1???? I am planning on the Wedge cleaner, SE tuner and Cobra Neighbor Haters. Thank you for any help.
I have the same bike and did all screamin eagle stage I parts and saw no loss in mpg. I typically get 43mpg average.
Thank you for your quick reply. What exhaust are you running??? My concern is that on my other bikes I have done Stage 1s and my MPG went down too much. I travel long distances so the less gas stops I can do, the better for the trip. I went to Texas from Pennsylvania and I had to stop every 150-160 miles to fuel on a 2012 FLSTN. On my new bike, I did 250 miles stops and I only had to put around 5 gallons to fill. A 750 miles day is easier when you only have to stop for fuel 3 times and not 5 times.
So, with Harley getting VERY tuff on the warranty of the motor. Are you concerned about having voided the warranty? I Have been told by more than one dealership that if the stock exhaust is replaced and or an aftermarket tuner is used, than the warranty is null and void.
A friend of mine just had to have his 2019 CVO Street Glides motor replaced with only 600 miles on it. Was told if any changes had been made such as the ones mentioned than the warranty would definitely be voided. The motor was replaced because it sumped.
Just curious of what you know about this. Thanks for the video.
Curious about this also.
if this is stage 1 what's stage 2? and how many different stages are there you can do? and what does each one involve?
Look it up. Stage 2 is Stage 1 + new camshaft(s).
Hi, love the idea of doing a stage 1 myself. If you go this route and do a stage 1 yourself and also use the V&H FP3 what is the impact on warrantee?
Voids the powertrain warranty.
Voids the PT warranty unless you get SE parts and get them installed by a HD tech
Bought and used 4 of the tuners. Works great but take off the bike once tuned.
Do I need a remap with a full exhaust system or can I get away with it. Stock air cleaner
Bob Hog when buying your exhaust it usually says if you need to remap, but generally no
I bought a '19 Slim and it's just as much a pain in the ass to find a place to store the FP3. I haven't ran AutoTune so I'm looking forward to seeing how it's done.
The FP3 doesn’t need to be kept on the bike unless you want to run auto tune, otherwise flash your map and leave it in the garage
Yep That's what I did when I flashed my '19 Slim last week. FP3 back in the box. Bike is running smooth with more get up and go for sure. Butt dyno approved!
Is the coil on the left as stock on the FXDR?
Yes, on all new softails.
So does this device eliminate the need for a dyno tune?
j hall19k I’m curious myself about this as well
No.. dyno tune is far more detailed tune
Seeing that you don't like the orange stripe on the tank maybe you could get some automotive vinel in gold. then you should be able to put it over the orange yourself.
Can you use an FP3 on multiple bikes or can they only work with one bike at a time?
One bike only, marries to one bike VIN and can’t be used to tune others. You can use it to read trouble codes on other bikes though.
BLOCKHEAD Awesome thanks for he info and the great videos! I have a 2018 Fatbob 114 and I’m trying to decide if I want to get just slip on or full exhaust. I’m thinking of going for the short shots or the l rinehart mufflers
yo Blockhead - Did doing this yourself void your 2 year warranty with Harley davidson ? Mase
Yeah boi first
I only see 5 pins but 6 holes... am i seeing this right
I was told that the 114’s already have a high flow air cleaner from factory. Any truth to this?
that is correct.
robert lumsden any benefit to aftermarket other than style if that is the case? Or is high flow just high flow and that is that?
not sure really. cfm is the amount of air it can pull that is about it and how much is enough. an engineer might be able to answer this.
6?
I test rode an fxdr about a year ago. I’m 5-11 and my back started to hurt after only 30 min. They’re cool looking bikes but if you’re a shorter person it’s not for you.
What your mirror adapter?
Same one he used on his LRS. He did a video on the company.
2 I meant
Doesnt that void the bikes warranty?
Rooster 03 yes
No setting for the new air filter?
I believe the setting Block set it to was for both.
FP3 maps assume you already have a hi-flow air cleaner installed...
Ok I didn't know that. Thanks
I thought you were doing a mod on a FXR.
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FXDR? That's an odd looking Softail. Maybe I never noticed it when I was at the dealer. Kind of reminds me of the Rocker.
I never owned anything til now!2018 Olive Gold Road King Special.(10 Months to this date)Let's get this clear first before I'm misunderstood.I love Harley and it's product.But long story short.Harley is doing anything to fuck us.They stage 3 and 4's have been popping down left and right on customer's.They will do anything to not honor uh warranty if they can get out of it.So my advice to y'all is.Do your own maintenance.Learn as much and don't be afraid to touch your own bike.1,000 Mile Service!Did by myself.34 more miles to go til 5000 mile service.Doing that myself!They can't void your warranty for doing your own maintenance.(Not even the 1,000 mile service,which is uh rumor)Rock on Blockhead.Keep tuning your on shit!
I used that map when I did my Stage I and it was TERRIBLE!!!! Even after running autotune for a bit it was never right. Best bet is to email V&H through the app. I did that and they suggested a different map to start with, then to upload that to them and they made some changes and I re-applied changes. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!
You removed the rear fender. Lol. I caught ya.
Uh... I don't think so. I was trying to watch for that as well.
@@nbt3663 ... Lol. I caught it first. Working nights has its benefits.
Block “I got lowered” Head
I heard it sometimes doesn't work with some android phones, thus wasting your money and breaking your motorcycle.
Their gos the warranty.
😂
Weaver Kevin on the contrar any stage uplode or upgrades does not afect the waranty
So 1200c, the warranty is technically voided because the tuner isn't of the Screaming Eagle variety, but it is really up to the selling/servicing dealer to report it to corporate. I technically voided the warranty on my HD when I pulled the catalytic converter off even though I used the HD tuner. Bottom line, it's Blockhead's bike and I'm sure he's got it covered if the issue comes up.
Jim Ashley didnt consider the V/H port thanks
The only way to truly tune an EFI bike is to Dyno and use a TTS Tuner and actually remap the HD. You're just running a program on top of the HD. You know like Windows running a Mac!? Right? I understand it's the cheapest way but, this advise of using these fuel packs is bad and will damage a motor in the long run, bro.
How would it damage it?
Autotune video please ..
Dude, you guys need a bigger garage.
They are looking to buy a house. I think they should buy a big garage with a bedroom to sleep in :))