SFF/ITX is DEAD! - Lian Li x Dan Case A3 MATX
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- SLAM DUNK BABY SLAM DUNK! $69 dollars for one of the best MATX cases ever created!
Lian Li and Dan Case have ABSOLUTELY SMASHED it out of the park with this one.
PCPartPicker List: pcpartpicker.com/list/7yh2cH
Chapters
00:00 - SLAM DUNK!
00:54 - Panel Removal
01:59 - Dust Filters
02:11 - Storage
03:50 - PSU
05:14 - Fans & Radiators
06:50 - Motherboard Support
07:00 - Air Coolers
07:07 - Case Wiring & IO
07:40 - GPU Support
09:45 - Integrated Support Bracket
10:06 - Vertical GPU Support
11:25 - Optional TG Panel
11:57 - Build It
13:44 - Cine Time
14:54 - Thermals & Hardware
16:10 - This case can be confusing
16:55 - Quick comparison
18:01 - There are some shortcomings
19:01 - Not all MATX boards & GPUs are created equally
20:15 - Fan compatibility can be strange
21:38 - They aren't deal breakers
22:10 - The PRICE!!!
23:04 - A Message for Lian Li
23:45 - Final Thoughts - Věda a technologie
![LIAN LI Dan Cases A3-mATX - Full Build! [NEW CASE!]](/img/n.gif)
Hey everyone. We're leaving for Computex in Taiwan in about 6 days and have a lot of other stuff to film and edit before we leave. We have an air-cooled build with testing planned after we return. Stay Casual
Hello, could you review the jonsbo z20 please there isn't any videos on it and I really want to see the Temps
Please push the limit with the fan favourite Deepcool assassin IV!
I'm back on my bullshit buying PC parts so I'll probably be watching more.
Glad you're still here 😊
I just built one a month ago and I'm still looking at builds and parts lol.
same...i literally bought like 300 dollars worth of parts last night cause i feel like building a ITX pc again just to sell.
Welcome back!
Bro same… I’ve already spent way too much money.
and lift it away…
SFF/ITX is certainly not dead, we are talking about 26.3 L case here.
yeah well Clickbait is the name of the game, here
Obviously, this channel isn't about building 5 L office PCs. I'd gladly use a 20+ L case like this, than a mini-ITX gaming case around 15 L. Just for avoiding the cost and hassle of dealing with SFX / SFF components.
We have Optimum Tech and ETA PRIME for the real ITX guys
@@drewnewby what's the "cost" of dealing with SFF components? ITX motherboards and SFX power supplies aren't any more expensive than their ATX counterparts. I mean you have $500+ ATX motherboards and $300+ ATX power supplies. Nothing SFF costs that much. Really....
@@the12gaugeshotty ITX components/cases are on average more expensive than their MATX/ATX counterparts. It's just a fact there isn't any discussion to be had. There is also fewer amount of options for ITX.
I just found out about this case and you guys are releasing a video about it the same day!! Very excited!
Thank you for this. Great format and attention to detail. I feel you really nailed the cinematic, the aestetic theme, and the sound.. I know you take pride in the music, happy to report it was great here.
10:51 bruh...
bruh..
he probably use it behind the scene lmao
Nick was having too much fun with that B-hole I mean B-roll
HaHa Ramming it!
You gotta do it
Loving the new building video format, thanks for sharing
I genuinely love the music. I watch your videos while I work and the music actually helps me focus. Love the 4 hours of music that you have! Oh yeah, great video, as usual.
excellent review, so detailed with all the orientations- I left a more comprehensive critique under the A50 video and this one here compared is just excellent, very well done. I understand that maybe not every video is worth putting so much time into it but wow it shows
Excellent video and song! I am really considering switching to that case when it's available.
great camera work and as always great review. cheers..
really good review. great attention to detail with the pcie slot position, wouldn't have thought of that! thanks
Awesome video fams. Awesome case, keep up the hard work
Amazing video you guys , I was hoping you guys were going to do a video on this case ❤❤
😘
+1 on the Front Panel matching the Wall Panel theme
Looking forward to a follow-up video with Your Gaming PC transplant
Also: You are toning down nicely!
Its good to see budget friendly back to basics cases are returning. I know you hated the CH160, but I absolutely frigging love that case. The most time it took for me in that case was to re think of the cable routing and it made all the difference for me and so much cleaner and simpler. (number of screws didn't bother me lol, but I get it that it can be annoying for someone that does lot of pcs...)
Cheers!
CH160 can't house all mATX boards tho.
@@JohnyMcNeal It's advertised as mini-itx case, just because "some" matx board fit it in, does not mean it has poor support for all matx.
Nice Video! You've made that case look like a master piece.
First time watching your video…i really like your delivery & honesty. The music was fire!
Sold! Great video; can't wait.
This is the gear I've been seeking all along. This'll be my endgame PC case (for the 3rd time).
Looking good Nick! Keep it up!
Hes a cutie 🤭
Awesome review!
SFF mATX is where it's at. Going ITX is typically expensive from the case, mobo and PSU. The A3 offers the best of both worlds: it offers the reduced size of ITX SFF without the financial penalty (PSU being the exception) and the compatibility and popularity of mATX.
I wish we had better selection of cases for matx. I want to build a living room pc like the fractal ridge itx case but all the matx cases are so wide so even when you place them down horizontally they are too tall. It's probably the standard atx width an sfx only micro atx case would be great.
@@baysidejr Asus ap201
That’s your opinion. I just ordered a fractal terra 4070ti super build and spent only $1675. This is with ddr5 CL30, platinum SFX power supply, 7800x3d. B650i MOBO (mid tier and still amazing)
It’s about what you know. What prices you can get / finesse, and your desired outcomes. These video titles are purely marketing.
I got lucky with the 4070ti super brand new for $680.
There are $500+ ATX motherboards and $300+ ATX power supplies. What's typically expensive for going ITX? I just went SFF and sold my ASUS ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WiFi D4 that I paid $350 for and replaced it with a $190 ASUS ROG Strix B760-I.
@@baysidejr matx size are all standard size, if they reduce it, it won't be matx anymore......same goes of ITX and ATX motherboard.........idk what are you talking about
The visualizations of power supply vs. GPU clearance were really great. That production quality is so helpful.
Nick did such a great job with them!
I'm glad more sfx cases are coming to market it really helps me determine what is available for me when I downsize.
Damn your shots and music selections are always A1
Thanks Nick! Was planning to build in the A4-H20 in my next build but A3-mATX case changes everything!
Sooooooooo now you make the exact case ive been trying, to find/modify other cases, to make after I spend the money and do the build in my Nr200p v2. 😂😂😂 Nice case though, Lian Li and Dan Case you guys rock! Thank you Gear Seekers for always bringing the heat with high quality build videos! 😊
What a great collaboration!
I'm using Jonsbo D30, I can say that it looks similar but with additional modularity.. Good Job Nick!!
Nice looking case for a nice price. Thanks!
Hey Nick. Nice video as always. I have an Assassin 4 CPU cooler. Looking at the specs it looks like there's a 1mm slack. Should I risk it?
I think the closest comparison would be to the ASUS AP201 and not the NR200. Both are MATX full mesh short towers with similar volumes and similarly priced as well.
It's funny, cause he has a review of the ap201 titled "mATX is not dead!"
Well actuallyyy...This is 26 L, the NR200 is 20 L, and the AP201 is 33 L, but point taken.
@@drewnewby The AP201 is definitely taller, allows a top radiator and fans without covering any of the motherboard. The A3-MATX seems more versatile with many PSU mounting options and a side radiator mounting bracket, and slightly smaller and cheaper (but lacks a ventilated front panel).
The New silverstone Sugo 17 is nearly the same size but much more expensive and the jonsbo D31 is a good competitor....
@Weezedog Agreed, all good points. Just mentioning, volume wise it's a split down the middle.
Hey Nick what are you most excited for at computex this year? Just curious to know.
great video as always!! i would like to see a size comparison between the asus ap201 and the lian li a3matx. I own the ap201 and love it. but since the announcement of the a3matx Im interested in a new build! :) .. very clean and stylish build from you!
This is what it means to clarify and put in detail. thank you
Hey ! it's a super cool video, you did a really good job ! Do you think the Jonson D31 (without screen) his a better deal than the lian li A3 ? What are the biggest differences ?
does the GPU clearance increase if the PSU is on the side and I use the GPU vertical mounted?
Would a Corsair RMX Shift ATX PSU make things better with it's side port placement?
How does this compare to the Jonsbo D30/31? Was the only small case i could get to fit the msi suprim x 4080 near launch
Looks great
Still not sure if I should go with this or the nr200p. My main selling point on the A3 is the top AIO support. Also m-atx boards are nice. Other review videos on the A3 say that building in this case are an extreme challenge, as using one large component changes the compatibility for every other part. All in all, which if the two cases would be best for future compatibility, ease of use, water cooling potential, and overall aesthetics?
The only nit-pick I have with this case is its footprint. I went to SFF to free up desk space and the A3 appears to take up a similar amount of desk space as a Meshify 2 Compact. The only dimension it really saves space in is vertical which isn't really limited for a lot of people with a case on top of their desk.
I do love the design, flexibility and price of it though, I'm sure it'll sell well. With all that said, I'd seriously consider it if I decide to go mATX for my next build - which is entirely dependant on there being decent mATX motherboard options at that point.
so with that air cooler clearance, what's the best aircooler that would fit?
this makes a lot of sense, you could build smaller system on the cheap. it might no be the smallest PC out there, but you can use cheap mATX motherboards, normal AIO or air cooler and it can even support regular ATX (albeit with some considerations), and it cost 69$. I can see low - mid budget build inside with 2 fans GPU, ATX PSU and some, mATX mobo with i5/r5 CPU and budget CPU tower, add couple of fans ram and storage and you are good to go.
This is not small, its as long as most full towers. There are smaller matx cases out there.
@@chy.0190 yes it is long but pretty narrow and low. You measure size in 3 dimensions not just one, so volume is your general metric for size, at 26.3 it's pretty small for mATX. If you are limited by length, then yes it is not the case for you, but for other metric it's comparatively small .
I wish this was out when I made my PC. I went with an AP201 at the time but this looks like a much more refined version with way better mounting.
Do you think it is possible to fit a thicker radiator on top? Like An Srctic Liquid freezer? Especially with an ATX PSU
I have SSUPD Meshlicious and love it. its really well put together, small stylish and can fit most cards right now. But i have to say i am taken with this one! Originally i was going to buy a 011 Air Mini but eventually went the SFF route as i felt it was too big and i will eventually make it a AM4 TV PC. However! with each graphics card generation getting bigger, this case looks like (at least for me) that it might be the sweet spot / inbetweeny for a workstation future build. Subject to new cases at computex 24 / 25 ofcourse.
Good review good case 👍
will this case fit the new arctic freezer 3's with their thicker radiators? would it interfere with the memory slots?
Cool review!! thanx for that. Question: Whrere did you find the gif for the aio ?. it would suit perfectly for mine build. thank you in advance!! 😊😊
This case is a dream for us M-ATX Lovers. But maaaaaaaan, my next project is going to be a Project Zero board, sadly, it doesn't look like it's going to fit here without modifications. Great reviews as always, thank you Nick.
Sweet. I also like that you used a full 0-100c scale in temp chart!.
How did you put front panel connectors to non standard gigabyte board?
Dissapointed with the limitations of CH160 considering its volume and my current components (my psu is just 10mm short). And the unclean looking "prime" on the white TG variant lol. And there it is, this case is what i'm looking for!
Does air move through the front panel? Or it's totally solid?
Can I put two 360 mm radiators in this case for custom GPU and CPU water cooling? Does the lower and upper panel support the 360 radiator?
This is honestly the case I was waiting for.
I got an ATX PSU, a 280 AIO several 140mm fans, 2 SSD, and a 330mm GPU.
When I mount the ATX PSU in the Upper front position I can fit 2 140 in the top, a 280 AIO on the side panel, my GPU and 3 slim 120mm in the bottom.
And the price is just fantastic.
Anyone know where the heck to get the TG panel? I have the case preordered, but can't find the TG panel listed anywhere to order it.
My graphics card is 10mm thicker than yours, do you think mine will still fit with 3 fans at the bottom?
I know the NH-D15 is 165mm on paper. But real world scenarios, do you think it will fit and all panels will close?
This might be the case that retires my Corsair Carbide Air 240. Great price and plenty of room for my parts without adding too much size (it's 2 inches longer while about 2.5 inches skinnier).
I've been looking for a different case to replace my Coolermaster NRP200Max the pump makes more noise than I was hoping and I've been wanting to upgrade to a different more efficient cooler for m,y 7950X-3d / 4090 build
is this better, compatibility and thermals wise, than the asus ap201?
I could listen to Nick say "...away from the case." on repeat all day long...
I hope so!
I Love the look of this case. I’ve been looking for an NR200 alternative that is a little bit bigger.
Sweet case. Thanks for the review. It would of been nice if Lian li provided a cable shrowd to hide the cables stuffed into the corner or back😂
I'm keeping an eye on this!! Been trying to build a compact PC like this. Now I just need 5090 to come out!
The answer to my GPU headache and saved me from upgrading to fit my tiny TU150. I had looked at this nifty little ACC X11 ITX A4 MINI Case but, it's over $250. plus $90.0 shipping. Lian Li to the rescue once again! :)
Do you know the maximum fan+rad thickness for the top position?
17:00 Really appreciate you showing an actual size comparison. Talking about units doesn't visually show how big a case is. I own an NR200 and yes, finding a cost efficient SFX mobo is a real pain. Also everything is a squeeze with larger GPUs, even with an SFX PSU.
Matx is just the right size..
Itx is good with expensive parts
great case great build, thanks 👍
Staying comfortable in my Silverstone FT03 matx
Which is better this case compared to ASUS Prime AP201 MicroATX Case? Thanks.
Good idea, but I still need some case with slim design like Fractal Ridge but can also support radiators for cooling and a good does not exist yet
the all around mesh is soooo freaking lovely. I really hope they can make a mesh left side panel for the o11 air mini also
Where can I buy the accessories? I've only found the case.
thinking to get this case, but will it affect the life span of PSU since it taking hot air inside the system? just asking
No
Wish this case had an inverted mobo option so i could place it on my left. There are apparently very few cases that support the left side orientation where the window is on the right side of the case.
Would the asus strix 4090 fit?
That's a great case! The price is very nice. I'm tempted as I prefer smaller SFF cases. What I would love is this for a smaller NAS. I'd like one more 3.5 drive bay. Also, is there a reason why MATX cases don't adopt a sandwich style layout? In other words, I'd like the spine to move, much like what the Fractal Terra so I could potentially have the option for standard or sandwich.
I currently have a ssupd meshroom S and have trouble with my cpu thermals. I use a matx motherboard because itx boards are so expensive in Canada, so my rad barely gets air in or out. I just discovered this one and I might just get it.
Please do a video comparison of this Lian Li A3 vs Asus AP201, would love to hear your thoughts, cheers mate!
Great Remix and great case 🎉 Thanks for the video!
But: My favorite Dan Case stays the A4-SFX 🥰
I'm waiting for Desktop APU's to be on par with Mid-Range dGPUs before I consider upgrading and my next system will be SFF it'll be a space saver.
I had used a similar case like A3 and its Tecware Fusion. in terms of compatibility, I'll have no problem building on this
Tecware Fusion (1st version) costs around $60 and it could fit matx/itx mobos and atx/sfx psu but the only difference is A3 can fit larger gpus,165mm air coolers & a full 360mm rad
I had only used matx motherboards and I planned to switch to small form factor but the choices for matx sff cases are very limited and itx is quite (sometimes very) expensive
I'm looking forward to upgrading with A3. (and it's freakishly budget friendly too)
can it hold a micro atx ? i buy this because i want too upgrade from a full atx case for my streaming and change the case for my gaming one too .
The product is called the A3 MATX
So I was doing my research before buying a Dan C4 case.... and then ..... its gone!
Do you know if Lian Li x Dan are going to keep producing this case or is it a one off batch run again?
Great video!! Can you do a review on Jonsplus Z20? It's an interesting mATX case because it's only around 20 litres and can fit a lot in it.
Finally a new M-ATX case!
Aside from the case - liking the longer hair!
finally! a MATX case that can fit my xfx 7900xtx
Looks great, it's similar to the Asus AP201. I'm not sure I like the solid front panel, in the Asus it's perforated so the mesh let's you face the PSU fan and give it fresh air.
thx 4u vid. i have a question, i have ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI with ASUS Radeon RX 7800 XT TUF-RX7800XT-O16G can i build in this case..?
I'm assuming you can also use Mini Itx as well and have even more room.
Would thicker fans like the t30 fit with a regular 27mm thick aio
This case will replace my NR200P. Much easier to work one, I love the GPU support bracket and the different options/build variations.
an AP201 from lian li basically.
The Dan A4 H20 + 240mm cm atmos with a 7800x3d and 4090/7900xtx/4080S is just a better package than this imo. Its less than half the size, has insanely good temps and is surprisingly well priced with a $200 asrock b650i and $100 850W SFX PSU
Will the Artic Freezer III 360 fit in there?
Can this case accomodate an ATX AMB motherboard, like the "ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F", please?