Stolen Valor (Fake Soldiers)
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Stolen Valor is the act of impersonating military personnel or exaggerating deeds undertaken in service of the US military.
Military personnel exemplify bravery and sacrifice, standing as the epitome of courage, whereas those who commit acts of stolen valour are usually selfish and self-serving, looking to enjoy the perks of the military without ever having been a member. Whether it’s to board a plane early, or get a good discount, or even go so far as to claim VA benefits, the only thing these individuals are decorated with is their audacity.
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@@tornado1050🦠
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5:51 I lived in California for over 25 years, and I've never even heard of Fatty Alvarez. Thanks for making this video.
Agreed
I love the motto of The Stolen Valor organization which investigates these guys and rats them out. "There were 500 Navy SEALS that actively served in Viet-Nam, and we've met all 20,000 of them."
So this is where the meme comes from, i never knew where it comes, but at least i learned something new
Could have sworn they were UDT back in 'Nam
yeah funny thing most stolen valors dont even know there is a data base where current and even former navy seal can look up person name to see if they went through training.
@@SantomPh UDT became SEALs between Korea and Vietnam
imagine if you served in the military yet they claimed it as stolen valor because you served so long ago, you were not recorded in the system or there was an accounting error that resulted in your file disappearing permanently
As someone who is prestige rank 50 and done multiple tours of Modern Warfare 2 and black ops, with the medal of dew. These people disgust me.
I tip my hat to you.
One non legend to a legend.
I see we are amongst a legend!!
I read this as if you were a British aristocrat! 😂
Thank you for your service.
Master Akimbo Matt Salutes you! 😂
I did the second tour of black ops in 2012, I lost so many nights of sleep and many hard battles fought.
I had a neighbor once who claimed to fight in Desert Storm. Turns out, a friend of mine knows him and told me he never served and got beat up a Veteran’s Club when he got exposed as a fraud.
Justice served.
Good.
There was a beavis and butthead episode about this
@@DougBurgum4VP There was, and it was hilarious 🤣 They ended up hoisting a Viet Cong flag over a VFW
One has a lot of nerve going into a _Veterans club_ stealing valor. You would think a valor stealer would want to stay as far away from real veterans as possible.
I like how the animators made them wearing the medals in such disarray to emphasize the fact that they are imposters, even make rhem wearing medals on their legs 😂
Hey man don’t discredit them, they served in 3 world wars and have 16 Purple Hearts, where else are they supposed to put them when they run out of jacket space? 😂
I think it's inspired by how some generals of banana republics wear them also North Korea has some generals looking like that.
Some cases of stolen valor did indeed have people wearing so many medals/ribbons that didn't make sense.
@@DescendingVelocity lmao. Honestly tho, if you had 16 purple hearts you'd most likely have no legs anymore
Some serious North Korean generals vibe going on here.
I'm a military vet, and have encountered a few people who were obviously impersonating being a veteran, or stealing valor. In all the situations I can recall, they were all homeless and obviously had mental issues going on. I had the impression these people probably idolized the military and would never be allowed to join, so saying they were veterans and in special forces or ranger battalion kind of allowed them to live out their fantasies. Not saying it's ok, but it just came across as more a symptom of mental illness and sad.
something like ''imitation is the sincerest form of flattery''?
Could also be un-diagnosed Munchausen syndrome.
You you love and idolize the military so much you'd know to never impersonate it.
It's a scam to get free stuff
I'm a highly skilled and decorated tactical operator of cod, battlefield, counter strike, medal of honor, ghost recon, rainbow six I'm offended by these people
In the UK this is simply considered "fraud by false representation" and is punishable by 10 years in prison. 🎖️🏅👮♂️👮♂️
And expanded rectum
It'd be a surprise to see them spend 10 minutes in prison nowadays. Courts in the U.S and Europe let out murderers and rapists with nothing more than a slap on the wrist
@@ultra3863 I think you mean Sweden
Sometimes called walter mitty's
@ultra3863, and that's why the U.S. has the world's largest prison population...
If impersonation of a police officer or public official is illegal, so should military personnel
There is a bit of a difference there. Military personnel don't have the authority to order around civilians (unless there's a declaration of martial law) so if someone in a military uniform starts making demands you can be sure they're a fraud and can defend yourself accordingly.
@@Malefactor Military Police if dispatched somewhere can act as local police
@@guilhermeotellesno one impersonates MPs, not even actual MPs
@@SantomPh ouch, yeah that's fair I don't know anyone in AG, Corps of Engineers, Transpo, or MP that exactly go bragging about their job other than just saying that they're in the army, mostly 11b and other combat arms
There’s a huge difference between impersonating cop or official and military personnel.
Fun fact, most of us that serve don’t go anywhere in uniform that we don’t have to because we want to get into our civilian clothes and be comfortable after a long day working, the only time I go to the store in uniform is if I’m grabbing lunch/groceries on the way home
Same
Fair enough not that I'm in the military but I certainly don't wear my overalls unless I'm at work haha
I left the United States Navy on December 31, 1985, left the Personal Support Detachment at Fort Snelling drove to my apartment and took off my uniform and have never worn it since!
Nailed it
Srsly. I don’t really like it. OCP’s suck especially on hot days. If authorized civies I’d always go for it
I remember when my grandpa called out an impersonator. My grandpa fought the Japanese at the battle of the Somme in 67 B.C. My grandpa also was awarded 16 medal of honors and single handedly took out a Syrian battalion whilst riding on top of a velociraptor. He passed away in battle sadly. He fought alongside the Roman Legions while they attacked a Russian Stormtrooper brigade.
Man, your grandpa is a real hero.
And yet he never talked about it…….
Thank you for your service
My Grandfather did all of that too, it was a little strange however, that, he had never ever mentioned it before he went senile.
Got us In the first half not gonna lis
The best thing to do if you ever encounter an individual with stolen valor is to never confront them on it, but just keep indulging into their fantasies to see how insane it gets.
"I was a Lieutenant Sergeant in the U.S. Army Marine 501st Armored Airborne Infantry Regimental Division, and I served three tours of duty in Korea against the Deutscher Empire. I was awarded five Purple Hearts, the Gold Star, the Green Beret, three Navy Crosses, the rank of Colonel, and the Big Army Ball of Bravery. All while I was only 19."
Lmfao
I want a Big Army Ball of Bravery. Where do i sign?
"And I shot Genghis Khan."
What's funny is they do the bare minimum of research before claiming to have served. Why do they all always have to go with the most elaborate story.
The best stolen valor if you can say that was a dude that said he did 4 years never deployed he just did those four years and got out. Eventually somebody that was stationed at the same base he claimed to be from called him out on it got exposed.
No one has time for that
If they say what they done is "classified", they're more than likely faking it.
Point! If it's classified you just don't talk abut it.
@@paulofelipebbraga9634 exactly
No, no not true. My job and location are totally classified, if you come to my house you have to get classified, and secreted too. National security says so, which is also why I wear my uniform constantly so everyone knows that I’m on official business, but it’s classified. Pff, get learned nerrrrrd.
@@GlurglePop Oh my God, you work at Area 51, don't you? That's the only explanation that makes any sense at all.
@@BlackoutCreature that’s it, enough! Look into this light for me… *puts classified sunglasses on*
Idea to add into the Stolen Valor Act: instead of paying a fine, to avoid prison, the impersonator should be enlisted into the branch they impersonated. Without any form or reason of discharge, except to prison
*dies of heart attack*
Problem is many of these impersonators have some kind of disability that would prevent their eligibility.
@811brian there are some who enlist lie about not having a disability cause they want to serve their country. I know cause my brother was one, Navy, lied about not having ADHD, got kicked out WEEKS before graduation
We don't want them
Good Idea!
I have seen some cases of this and it is absolutely disrespectful to impersonate someone in the military if you’ve never served in the military.
Today's lesson:
Don't steal military valor
Join the Military 🗿
What about on Halloween?
Especially impersonating a war hero, like audey murphey or desmond doss
Except if you want to honor him
@@Jamesfrancosdog part of stealing valor is that you have to intend for someone to believe you. Dressing up for a cultural event where nobody would take you seriously isn't stealing valor.
I believe that stolen valor should be punished by forced conscription into the military so they could actually fake it until they make it.
I would like to add that they would be conscripted, whitout pay, until they earned every Metal and Award that they claimed to have.
@not_even_known_yet3167 I like that but I personally don't enjoy the idea of conscription being used as a judicial punishment
@not_even_known_yet3167 I like that but I personally don't enjoy the idea of conscription being used as a judicial punishment
I like that, but forced conscription might be too much, maybe used just to give impersonators a true example of war if they continue to do that even after serving a 1 year imprisonment.
We don't want them. 😂thanks though
Yeah, it really sucks that these guys keep impersonating us. I remember fighting the Nazis in the Korean War when they invaded Canada and there were a lot of fine men and women who were killed by the cavalry charge. If it wasn't for GI Joe and Soviet Kermit the Frog, our position would've been overrun by those emus who stole my breakfast.
Lmao
And that’s when the Uruk-hai and Clone Troopers showed up…
And i’ve heard him claiming to have took part in napoleon’s final battle in waterloo😂
Were you really there? I was there and it wasn’t until the clone troopers came in and relieved us of our besieged city of San Petersburg that I truly felt safe. I know because I fought on the 501st Schmebulok marine battalion.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 “what I remember about the rise of the Empire is…is how quiet it was”
I served 3 tours of Halo. I drank gatorade at 1 am and played for hours non-stop.
Gimme my veteran benefits 😂
Thank you for your service! I'll never forget how your unit "teabagged those noobs".
@@goncalo33
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm supposed to appear in court in a few weeks thanks to a few blue falcons. According to the Geneva Convention subsection B-2.A. Titled: 'Dunking on the enemy', 'Tea-bagging' the enemy is quote, 'an abhorrent and unnecessary display of tactical superiority'. End quote.
So these commi fucks are trying to charge me with war crimes.
I finished Guilty Spark on Legendary.
I've served in the forces of the ISAF against Eursean forces.
@@Battleship009hello Buddy, 😂
In glad the animation team gets to practice more civilian settings for their drawings
"I serve in the Army and got this purple heart for my wounds"
*Wearing American Revolutionary Uniform of 1776"
Nahh
If you suspect a clown, just ask to see their VA card. They'll quickly walk away stating that it's at home.
I don’t have my VA card I requested it. Also I just cary my VFW membership card and my license says veteran
If they are smart they wouldn't walk around with their va card or retired id unless they had use for it that day, if you lose your wallet you'd lose all your IDs at once, so leaving it at home is smart.......i do.
@@Bunny-658You are A okay in my book. Take care and God bless You!!!
@@kurtrussell5228 I carry my retired ID and VA card anytime I leave the house. Both items can be easily replaced.
@@joeavent5554 va card yeah, retired id not so easy, you're not priority at the id card section and it seems the dumb machines are always down....also i worked hard for that blue id, i don't want one of the new ones.
Thing is, most normal people wouldnt even think about doing anything like this. These people are awful.
They want to take advantage of the fact that americans tend to be extremely patriotic
It's honestly bizarre how common it is. At one point when I worked retail I used to pretty much give the veteran's discount to anyone who claimed to be one just because I didn't think people would have the audacity... then I learned about how widespread these people are. It became ID only or some equivalent docs after that.
military tik tok influncers in a nutshell
I mean if they actually served and only say they did what they did, thats not stolen valor is it?
@@lazarussolomon3541 Nah
Yup
@@lazarussolomon3541the 99.9% are guilty of stolen valor
@@lazarussolomon3541no but they are just as obnoxious so they can go in the same category.
Stolen Valor = stack of ribbons, medals, and badges that look like a North Korean general's coat and trousers or a libo stack.
Plot twist: they are stealing north Korean military valor
9/11 actually had something similar with a woman named Tania Head. She claimed that she was in the south tower of the WTC and lost her husband in the north tower. In reality, she wasn’t even in New York at the time.
Heck, maybe she's George Santos real mom
I remember that she got away with it for a while
Dishonorable act to the fullest, sad they do this.
As a veteran I can’t understand why people do this. There’s no “significant personal gain” to be had other than 10% off on your non-lumber purchases at Home Depot. Most places don’t care about your service. And just try to ask a “we help veterans” charity for help. They laugh. They just want to funnel their donations into their own pockets. Those charities should be criminalized too.
What is your opinion on reenactors
@@JBS2018 WWP got busted for making 90% of their donations disappear. They also turn their backs on some wounded veterans if their wound isn’t “newsworthy” (that’s the word they used about mine. “Shrapnel isn’t newsworthy” they said).
Honestly stolen valor looks like North Korean Generals
Robert Rogers of Rogers's Rangers fame had this standing order: "Always tell the truth in the things you say and do. You can lie all you please to the folks back home, but don't never lie to an officer or another ranger." In a sense you can tell all the stories you want, but when it comes to lying to someone who is an official or for official purposes then it is a gross violation of honor. The one thing that seemed to be missed here is the source of the phrase "Stolen Valor." It was G.W. Burkett whose book "Stolen Valor" which exposed the frauds claiming they were Vietnam Vets by outing them in publication. This revealed the problem and the wide scope of it.
"They Say Truth: Is The First Casualty Of War."
- Captain Price
From the same man: "But who define is this truth?"
That guy is a real hero, he saved my life in Fallujah Afghanistan
Do you mean Iraq?
Fallujah is in Iraq?
@@HunterFisherYT that's the joke
@@DougBurgum4VP what wasn’t a joke exactly?
@@HunterFisherYT the joke is that he purposefully mixed up the places, this indicating that the event never happened.
Caught someone out once using military uniform to try and get discounted dominos. Claimed to be army but had a beard, couldn’t produce ID when asked despite being in uniform and wearing trainers (asked the medical form name for allowing him to wear them and couldn’t name it). He stormed out before he could pay so guess who got a free pizza
The Army now allows you to have a beard if your religion requires you to have one (sikh) or if you have a medical condition that makes it really hard to shave without your skin getting irritated/inflamed.
@@kravkik7930 true but he certainly wasn’t Sikh and he couldn’t name the medical form that allows you to have a beard
it really makes my blood boil when i see those who deface the uniforms that we wore.
I think that money and benefits play a huge role in many of these cases. However, another big reason why many of these phonies do this is because they're too insecure with themselves and they often just crave respect or want to be seen by others as a hero or a noble person. Of course if often backfires at them and they almost always get caught and later exposed. Regardless, stolen valor is highly repugnant, a spit in the face to troopers and veterans out there who've actually served, and one of the worst forms of lying that I can think of.
I thank you for making a video on this. I am a veteran and I aplaud you for your work on this.
Don Shipley, a retired Navy SEAL, does excellent videos exposing fake SEALs.
navy SEAL vs gravy SEALs
@@slav4335gravy MEALS
Why would you fake being a seal? That's just a surefire way to get eaten by a polar bear.
@@BlackoutCreature some people are looking for attention and all the freebies they can. Typical con men.
I actually don't disagree that stolen valor is protected by freedom of speech. What should be cracked down is them defrauding vetrans associations and gov benefits.
How did you get 29 likes lol so i can pretend to be a doctor? Freedom of speech and all
Agreed. I'm suprised they didn't mention Sarah Cavanaugh in this video at all. Especially since it was so recent.
@derigel7662 yeah, go practice without a medical degree. See where that lands you. Saying you are something you aren't is technically protected speech
@@deaddad6310 Correct. Although , Sarah Cavanaugh falsified VA documents and created a fake DD-214 in order to commit identity theft and fraudulently collect almost $300k in veteran benefits and charitable contributions. Which is very much against the law.
@@deaddad6310 why are you replying to me???? I was countering the guys argument
Man I remember the time around like mid to late 2010’s when I see a lot videos about these types of people. Haven’t served in the military, but I know some details from uniforms and seeing these people get caught was beautiful
You want to know why those videos no longer exist? It's because Stolen Valor was declared unconstitutional multiple times. As someone who has served, we are not a special class of citizen where we need to be protected. We served to protect those who want to engage with free speech. So if these people want to put on a whole uniform and go to an Applebee's so they could save 5% on a $25 meal, they must really need that 5%. Also, the only service members who whine and cry about Stolen Valor are the washout privates who served in the mess hall. Or all they did was work to clean the head. There's instances where real life Kevins and Karens actually accuse real service members who are veterans of Stolen Valor because they used a military ID. Keep in mind, depending on the branch, it is actually against regulations to be in uniform or wearing a certain type of uniform to even pump gas. So unless you're by a military base, or in a situation like if you're in Chicago where they could take the train down from Great Lakes, you're not going to see a lot of people in uniform. Most of us will not be carrying around our DD-214s, which is discharge papers, and you won't most likely see us in uniform unless, again, there's a base nearby. We're going to be using a military ID. But again, we have people who act self-righteous, who accuse people of Stolen Valor when they don't know what they're talking about.
10:12 "Hero of the USSR" 💀
In the UK, we call them ‘Walts’ (short for ‘Walter Mittys’), and wearing medals you’re not entitled to is covered under the Uniforms Act 1894, and can result in anything from a substantial fine to a spell in prison, if the walting is done in an effort to deceive and extort money (in which case it’s covered under the 2006 Fraud Act).
There’s also ‘bloating’; where someone has genuine military service, but exaggerates or flat-out lies about aspects of their military service, or wears more medals than they actually earned.
Ohhh I got a good idea for that that should be covered under civilian law with the rule that if they do fake or lie more about to active duty service they should go to a military trial with the sentence if found
Bloating is very real in the USA. Quite a few politicians and celebrities have exaggerated their military records. Even journalists brag/lie about being "attacked" in war zones.
So THAT'S what this guy looks like. And as someone who served in the US Army as an infantryman and doing absolutely NOTHING worth even mentioning (never went to combat, never won any awards or anything like that), I'm proud that I legitimately wore the uniform, the crossed rifles and the blue cord. The only medal of honor I ever had was Frontline for the PS2.
6:42 bro is in a hammam or what 💀
No he’s a genshin impact player
@@waterfall4535 bro, even genshin impact players have more honour than this man, they are two different breeds of pathetic (depends on the person and yes are the two breeds)
For example of Stolen Valor, Frank Hassle is a banned CZcamsr who has committed Stolen Valor by trolling by impersonating a war veteran and makes people thank him for his "Service". He is not a soldier, he got this for just playing a war video game. Not to mention, he also impersonating a Security Guard, and Impersonating a Doctor without a license. Frank Hassle is a real criminal and he cannot keep getting away with it. This CZcamsr is an example of Stolen Valor.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
@@shinymoltres5413his real name is Cameron Williams. age: 33, he has got a lot of criminal records in his time.
CZcams recently had the movie Catch Me If You Can, and I commented that I was torn. Yes, it's a fun movie. You have to admire Frank Abignale (played by Leo DiCaprio) conning people into believing he was a doctor, lawyer and airline pilot. But he could've done some serious damage to innocent people. Real life is not a movie.
"Stolen Valor" is one of the worst forms of self-compensating for impotence.
99% of us veterans NEVER talk about our experiences. We only talk about it if asked. Those that go bragging about their service are fakes, just like real bums don't beg.
I had a lady go crazy on me over my halo reach rank patch on my greatcoat i bought from the army surplus store. Lady was really nice after i explained its from a video game i play but thats the only reason i even know wtf "stolen valor" is.
On a side note, i still collect patches/medals from my video games, and yes, i do wear em too lol
Thank you for your service in Reach. o7
2:34 his face scared me
I remember that video of the Mall Army Ranger actually had decent lies when he was getting questioned but when he said “All I do is… I go out on missions.” was just pathetic
The punishment for stolen valor should be to actually join the military based on what they lied about
It should stay as a fine or imprisonment, forceful conscription never worked well in the past
Plus isn’t it only like aloud to be reinstated by congress if there’s a national emergency
Or atleast just a war that the US is directly in
If I wear my uncle’s old Air Force jacket with his rank insignia on it and I tell anyone who asks that it was a gift from him, is that stolen valor?
No. You aren't intending to fool anyone. Also it was a gift.
Not at all. It was a gift so wear it.
No you aren’t claiming to be from that branch or claiming that rank.
Funny animation fail at 8:47 the army guy in the background sudenly shaved his breard and grew it back
Good eye
I have a friend whose dad would always boast that he served in the Falkland's war. His dad was always abusive to his family because he suffers from PTSD due to seeing his unit die. However, my friend's aunt later told him that her brother never served in the war. He got kicked out of training due to his violent temper. He now has dementia and was transferred to a mental institution. But due to how badly he treats his family, no one has ever visited him. What goes around comes around.
10:02 bro looks like a north korean general with that amount of medals
As someone who' comes from a family where every male member on my mother's side has served in combat (general infantry) I am beyond disgusted by these cowardly creeps. I wanted nothing more than to join the military (Canada) - MOS Combat Camera. Unfortunately I got 2/3 of the way through the selection process when they had concerns about my left leg as I broke my leg in my late teens and have a intermodual nail down my tibia and 8 screws. So these cowards who lie about being in the military make me sick. For the memories of all the hero's in my family - my Grandmum's brother who was taken as a POW in WWII in the Pacific theatre and we never got his body back, to all my other relatives who did come back but were full of shrapnel to me being so close to following in their footsteps but as the first female soldier in my family until an old injury shut that down, it angers me to no end coming upon them.
In fact, I have come across 1 or 2 people who did fake being in the army. I caught them in ONLY ONE simple question! What was your MOS (that what your job in the army/military is called - like combat camera) and they were fucking clueless! Scumbags
People who do this should be drafted
If "hate speech" is illegal, and lying under oath is illegal... stolen valor should be too.
I think my biggest regret about life is that I didn’t just lie about my severe ADHD when I graduated high school and join the military anyway. I’d wanted to join since I was a kid. I honestly feel like less of a person for not serving, even though I can’t legally do so with current recruiting standards.
As of 2018, ADHD is no longer an instant disqualifying condition. If you haven't been prescribed medication for it in 24 months and you don't have any comorbidities, it may be worth talking to a recruiter about.
At least that's what Google says.
ADHD is definitely not a barrier to enlistment. I have it, and I served 14 years. The military 100% knew about it, because I told them. Medical made sure I had a 60-day supply of meds before each deployment, and they delivered refills to me once I was downrange. If you need medication to do your job, the military definitely needs to know about it so that they can get it for you. Don’t listen to the recruiters on this one; they’re trying to make things easier for them, not for you.
@@PBurns-ng3gw Contacted the recruiter last night, honestly, your comment gives me hope.
@@fordman7775can’t wait to hear you bend and spread em for uncle sam
Dude don't die for an oil company 😂😂😂 your country isn't under threat
That officer in the beginning looks like General Krukov from RA3
In my experience, it’s not the obvious fakers, but the subtle ones. Guys in civilian clothes who just say they were in war
as somebody who has a LONG family service history in the US Military, and had family members get killed in action, this sickens me to my bones to think someone finds this okay.
I was stationed in an assault craft unit in Virginia Beach. The home of the east coast SEALS. It seems like every third person I ran into was a SEAL. True SEALS will not tell a stranger that they are a SEAL.
You know you met a Navy SEAL if he offers to sell you his book and autograph it
9:55 that is a HUGE basket for that man to carry, much respect!
One time I participated in a paintball game whilst wearing M-65 Woodland Camo BDU's. For example the camo pants, jacket, and black boots. Would that be considered an act of stolen Valor?
No stolen valor would be someone going into a mall with full uniform and patches and maybe even medals. But if you go looking like a soldier in a paintball game then everyone will tell you aren't aren't soldier
@@danilapolesciuk4316 When I actually went, the people that I were with thought the camo looked pretty cool. So basically basically didn't take it as stolen valor, It was basically for use of camouflage in the match.
not as long as you aren't acting like your in the military, you can wear all the camo and gear u want.
Stealing military valor: 🤡
Joining the military:🗿
Yes bro your going to prison
I appreciate the ace attorney sound bits
I've seen men in combat action not get a CAB but others get it for hiding in their MRAP. A medic even got a combat medic badge for asking a scared gunner who ducked and hid if he was bleeding
I love collecting vintage soldier, police and civilian medals or medallions. Before transaction I always ask little interview about history behind what I bought later, writing little note and testimony (signed by seller). I collecting medals or medallions because I respect history behind it, not impersonating to enjoy special privilege.
Nb: Before people ask questions about it, in my country is not illegal to buy soldier, police and civilian medals or medallions. Any stolen valor act, will get you a heavy punch from all people including soldier, police and civilian itself.
6:54 Phoenix Wright
As someone who served the state of New California in the frontier land of New Vegas by assuring that it did not fall into the hands of barbaric Ceasars Legion as a distinguished NCR operative. These people disgust me.
1:07 "hey kid, want some medals?"
😂
10/10 Channel, highly recommend this channel!
My step dad does this all the time, whenever he goes to drive throughs he always asks for a veterans discount despite the closest semblance of military service he's ever had was the ROTC
Dip his toothbrush in the toilet when hes not looking
What does the ROTC stand for?
@@franzicoy Reserve Officer Training Corps
@@franzicoy reserve officer training corps
2:37 Not at all what I imagined the Narrator looked like!
Same
If you say, "I'm a Navy Seal" three times, Don Shiply will appear and ask you your B.U.D.S Class Number
You gotta say it in front of a mirror with the lights out.
I’ve always wanted to know about this!
i like the Malwart sign
Same here.
This issue is a catch-22... LYING is protected by the First Amendment... yet impersonating true heroes is despicable. A law against fraud by false representation would be a great idea.
We already have laws against fraud, but it can't be a crime to go out in public dressed funny and lying about what you are... otherwise, Bruce Jenner and half the freaks at the pride parade would be in jail.
My dad is a Veteran we work as a Artillery worker
I know ALOT of US politicians who does that type of stuff
What lying? All politicians are truthful and honorable, so you don't need to look into it further 😉
@@wavemasterxyra1630 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i don't think a real veteran would flex about that
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I did volunteer work at a local military museum where I met dozens of Korean, WoT but most especially Vietnam vets.
None of them wanted to speak of what they did.
None of them wanted to tell me their stories.
I knew not to talk to them about any war post 1900, which wasn’t really a problem since I knew the most about the American Civil War.
All of them just war a Vietnam war vet cap and that’s it.
The closest I got to a story was from a Jeep driver in Korea where he had me find the fuel tank on a jeep. (Under the driver’s seat) and proceeded to tell me he always was afraid a tracer round would hit the tank and he would be turned into a human torch.
The soldiers who ARE proud of their service 11/10 times are either insane or were in logistics.
6:13 IS THIS THE MEDAL OF 87???
Honestly if I were gonna impersonate someone it would not be a decorated military personal, like that’s the last guy you wanna mess with.
This is why I like wearing foreign or non-American camouflage patterns.
A lot american like collecting ww2 uniforms & medals especially Waffen-SS camo. uniforms, replica knightcross or ironcross.
Once saw a guy at a veterans parade wearing two Victoria Crosses. Problem is, only three people have ever been awarded two VCs and the most recent one died in 1994
6:53 THE ACE ATTORNEY OBJECTION
As the son of a veteran who would've served himself, if it weren't for my asthma.. It's something I wouldn't even do, regardless of my feelings of inadequacy. It would disgrace my father's sacrifices! Shame on those that would..
I was too fat.
@@jerrymichaelgreen2675I was too young.
@@Global_majestyI was too stupid, would've killed myself cleaning my rifle in basic training.
@@knightwind6628 Heh. If you are from America, get used to a gun, you need it to protect yourself!
@@Global_majesty true true.
One of the biggest regrets is that I was diagnosed with a long term condition while applying, thus never being able to serve. It took a while to come to terms with this, but I could never stoop to the lengths of impersonating the brave men and women who serve their countries.
I went overseas with my brothers and played a significant role in operations wingstop.
tips about stolen valour
-wearing military surplus is not stolen valour (to some degree) but if you do be prepared to be called out about it, just don't wear full uniform
-most self respecting veterans don't wear medals out in public casually so thats the big one to tell if someones faking it
If it's a felony to pretend to be a cop then it should be a felony to pretend to be a soldier. Soldiers are authority figures and public servants too.
Soldiers have no authority over civilians.
I feel like theres that one group of friends that hate stolen valor so much, that they literally spend their entire day just snitching on fakes to the feds... I strive to be that
Stolen valor is a disgusting act!! My great grandfather served in the Air Force during the Korean War
Ok and
My uncle received a Purple Heart for fending off Taliban fighters with a 50 caliber machine on a Humvee with IED shrapnel lodged in one of his knees he also received a Silver Star for taking out a three man mortar team with a semi-auto 10 gauge shotgun. The fact that these cowards get away with what they're doing most of the time sickens me they shouldn't be allowed to hide behind the 1st amendment for their despicable actions, service men and women have lost hands, arms, legs, feet, and worst their lives protecting pathetic losers like them, some have even come back alive but severely burned, don't take credit for what you haven't done
I love your videos so much. They are educational and really funny. Especially 0:21 - 0:32
I have a neighbor in his 50s who tells everyone he was a "ghost sniper" at age 18. I asked him if he knew what stolen Valor was, and he just simply nodded and said "yes". He didn't even ask why I was asking 😂
I definitely get the attraction. That feeling when I first traveled in uniform as a PFC, walking tall through the airport in class A’s, kids look at you like a comic book hero come to life, the pats on the back from strangers, and yeah, the looks from the ladies (and that was with like two ribbons and a rifle qualification badge). The flight I took home was mostly empty, so the crew insisted I jump up to first class. I declined, mostly because as a PFC, I suspected everything to be a trap which would end up in me pushing nasty plane carpet the rest of the flight. I did however, take a free beer when they told me that leftover beer would be thrown out at the end of the flight. I ended up chatting up the cute flight attendant for about 45 minutes. She happened to be married to the captain, which I found out at the end of the flight. He patted me on the back anyways, damn it feels good to be a gangster 😋.
The people who commit Stolen Valor should be sent to serve in the Military instead of Prison.
Theres a trick in the UK to uncover it that may or may not work in other countries, you ask their service number.
It's so ingrained into most service personel in basic training that no matter how long it's been since they served they can recite it without hesitation as if it was their own name.
I am not ex service but will often by Surplus kit as it's just tougher than normal clothing for working in, I will go out of my way to make sure I'm not mistaken for anyone who genuinely served by removing any insignia and adding things like patches as it does genuinely disgust me when people fake it.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the view that the punishment for Stolen Valour should be having the offender required to enlist if physically able.
I’m not a veteran but if someone did this there is absolutely no reason that this should be allowed a minimum mandatory sentence of 3 years and $15,000 fine should be imposed
Nah Karen the first amendment exists
@@videogamebomerThe constitution is flawed. (Not saying that because they were slave owners and Native killers but they’re human and thus didn’t think of everything at the time or things that might happen in the future)
I’m in the military and I couldn’t care less. Someone wants to wear that monkey suit for attention, by all means. I’ll take regular clothes any day.
The only issue I see is if people give special discounts and stuff to us, and someone fakes it to take advantage. But we would just call that theft.
Notice all the Karens and Kevins are the ones who always want to be self-righteous and go after people for stolen valor. And notice the actual serving military personnel, veterans, who comment, don't care if someone is wearing a uniform. The fact is, if some dude needs a 5% discount at an Applebee's on a $25 order, chances are that person is either having hard times or needs the help. And also, most of us did not serve so we could restrict the speech of people. Wearing a military uniform is restricting the speech of a regular citizen. Also, depending on the branch, you're not even allowed to pump gas in uniform. So you most likely won't be seeing us in uniforms unless there's a base nearby. Sadly, there's people like you who make life harder for us when maybe we want to use that discount so we use our military ID and then of course we get a Karen or Kevin who complains that we're not in uniform and we obviously must be using stolen valor. Again, most of us will never carry around our DD-214s everywhere or be in uniforms at an Applebee's or an IHOP. If anything, we'll have a military ID. Also, all stolen valor laws have been considered unconstitutional except one, which is if someone claims they are in the military when they never served to get VA benefits. Now that's fraud. That, of course, is illegal. That's different from speech.
@@SaraphDarklaw I agree with everything you're saying. As someone who has also served, accept the discounts. Think about it like this. If a dude is at an Applebee's or IHOP and they're trying to get 5% off on a $20 bill, they must be very desperate. I don't mind those people. The only people that I do mind are people who try to claim VA benefits when they never did serve. Now, that has been upheld as constitutional in regards to Stolen Valor laws because it's fraud. All other Stolen Valor laws have been declared unconstitutional. But I think generally, most of us sort of agree who are veterans or who have served that these Stolen Valor laws are stupid. And again, the consensus mostly is the people who are stealing federal benefits where they're engaging in fraudulent activity. That's where the issue is.
I did 20.5 years in the Navy. Then I went to the Starship Troopers, earned several medals fighting the bugs.
those "marines" with all those medals are silly