London cycling, Argument with moped rider

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @IanPhillipsWildlife
    @IanPhillipsWildlife Před 5 lety +14

    Read the highway code! Red means go for mopeds...

  • @DLicious
    @DLicious Před 5 lety +25

    "If you really believe that, you're an idiot"
    *Proceeds to almost cause an accident on a junction by running a red light*

  • @andys9864
    @andys9864 Před 5 lety +20

    HC rule 147: "Be considerate ... do not allow yourself to become agitated or involved if someone is behaving badly on the road. This will only make the situation worse". HC rule 148: "Safe driving and riding needs concentration. Avoid distractions when driving or riding such as ... arguing with ... other road users".

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +4

      Yes, agreed. It's ultimately best not to get drawn into a debate in the middle of the road. Hard to be rational sometimes though. We both kept it civil at least. 😉👍

  • @prettyundefinedrightnow8963

    It's lovely to read the trolls' comments, I find them so very much entertaining!

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +6

      Ha, what tickles me is how many people who clearly don't like cyclists spend a lot of time watching cycling videos on CZcams! Getting themselves all wound up, crazy!

  • @redeyedcyclist
    @redeyedcyclist Před 5 lety +5

    Nice work catching him up :)

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety

      I wasn't expecting to catch him to be honest as mopeds are very quick. That's my route home and he just happened to get caught at the next set of lights. I couldn't resist clarifying the rules to him when I passed. 😉

  • @KissTheGreat
    @KissTheGreat Před 3 lety

    Fact: most moped riders only have L plates and have no full licence of any kind on any vehicle.
    Fact: most cyclists are also fully licensed motorists.
    Generally speaking odds are cyclists will know more about the rules of the road.

  • @wigancyclist8913
    @wigancyclist8913 Před 5 lety

    Why the fuck do so many road users seem to think they have some sort of entitlement not to be slowed by others up ahead of them.
    It's a dense urban environment AKA you will always be having to slow down for other road users.
    It was hardly a case of you pulling out right in front of the looney on the moped.

  • @coecovideo
    @coecovideo Před 3 lety

    do you have a gopro on the helmet ?

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 3 lety

      I have it on a chest mount. 🙂👍🏻

    • @coecovideo
      @coecovideo Před 3 lety

      @@ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007 I tried once but it was very uncomfortable, thanks

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 3 lety +1

      @@coecovideo I’d rather have it on the helmet but I’m concerned it would compromise the structural integrity of the helmet should I have an accident.
      Keep safe. 🙂👍🏻

  • @retroonhisbikes
    @retroonhisbikes Před 5 lety +1

    Did he just reinvent the Highway Code.

  • @Will-dq4vh
    @Will-dq4vh Před 4 lety +2

    Maybe just let things go. You do get in a lot of arguments and have a lot of close calls...

    • @ESPSJ
      @ESPSJ Před 3 lety

      let what go? he did nothing wrong and someone rages at him lol

  • @melcanuck5951
    @melcanuck5951 Před 4 lety +1

    0:42 Maybe you pulled out in front of him and he had to brake? (as others have done to you?)
    You know PROUDNESS is the cause of all arguments. Best let it be.
    "A man's wisdom gives him patience; it is to his glory to overlook an offense"

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 4 lety +2

      It's a good 4 seconds after I pull out that the moped passes me, so I didn't pull out right in front of him (I checked before I pulled out and couldn't see him), plus he passes at some speed so didn't appear to have to brake regardless.
      What I took offence at is his key point that he felt that he was allowed to go around the outside of the traffic but cyclists are not. One rule for him and a different rule for others. That's not the case at all.
      I could ignore all such incidents, however I felt that if I challenged him, whilst he'd never conceded at the point, he may have looked it up later in the Highway Code and seen that he was incorrect. Then next time he saw a cyclist in such a position he may not shout at them.
      There's a lot of misconceptions out there about cyclists rights on the roads. I hope that through my videos I'll at least make people consider these and challenge them.
      Have a great Christmas.

  • @iSwearToCod
    @iSwearToCod Před 5 lety +3

    lool you had an argument with an object?

  • @stevenparanormalvisitors
    @stevenparanormalvisitors Před 4 lety +2

    You again Ryan? Lol you're gunna hate me. 😂 But you were both in parts WRONG and lolz at the motorcyclist when he almost rides into oncoming traffic.
    But unless you intended to turn right you should not be in between the lanes on a bicycle.
    You are also using MOTOR VEHICLES Highway code an not your cyclist highway code which or Rules from the cyclists Section (59 to 82)
    0:54 You weirdly refer to Section 151 which is Where you put yourself in the perspective of the GREEN CAR DRIVER *Not a Random cyclist merging in and out of traffic just because theirs ques ahead!* and The Green Car Driver is to make a 90 degree turn an it states before turning make sure there's no oncoming motorbikes or cyclist.
    The reason being... The Blue car might of stopped to let YOU (The Green Car) through And Not to break *RULE 151 BY BLOCKING ACCESS TO A SIDE ROAD*, but a motorbike could be on the right side of the "Green Car" Filtering traffic and about to pass you "NEXT TOO THE WHITE CAR" and it could hit the side or rear of the GREEN Car if it turned or maybe there is a cyclist on the left hand side of "THE BLUE CAR", Which could hit the front end of the GREEN Car. During the 90 degree maneuver, *This has absolutely nothing to do with your situation?*
    You seriously can't believe you can pull out random Motor vehicles highway codes and just put them into your situation lol...
    Your Highway code the CYCLIST SECTION (59 to 82) that you failed was.
    Rule 74
    On the right. *Which is where you were* If you are turning right, *Which you wasn't, you went straight a head* check the traffic to ensure it is safe, *Which you said you did* then signal *Which you didn't do* and move to the centre of the road. *Which you wasn't and was cycling on the central reservation lines* Wait until there is a safe gap in the oncoming traffic *Which you didnt you was weaving in between vehicle bumpers* and give a final look before completing the turn. *Which you didn't as you only looked once* It may be safer to wait on the left until there is a safe gap or to dismount and push your cycle across the road.
    *Which you didn't do, you chosen to go chasing after a motorbike rider, like a bat of hell. Just to have a go because he told you to get to the inside of the road*
    It's one thing to be smug an want to upload videos of someone else being in the wrong, it's a whole other thing to absolutely demolish your own set of rules you should be following..
    The motorbike rider *WAS* Wrong by thinking that a cyclist can't be on the right and filter through the traffic, as well. Cyclist do in fact have every right to use the road as well. But what they all seem to fail to do is give HAND SIGNALS when making a maneuver, This is just as bad as a vehicle not indicating. And you're to cycle in the center of that road, So you can be seen! and not in vehicles or passengers blind spots.
    Personally i'd rather have to drive at 10mph behind a cyclist then do 5 to 15 mph whilst they coast at the side of me wondering when or they going to decide to get in front or turn. The issues you cause when doing this is once seen, the driver knows roughly where you are but can't drive an stare at you the entire time. They have to watch out for cars and motorbikes too, darting in front of them, they have to watch out for animals and pedestrians running in front of them, they have to watch out for upcoming road signs, they have to pay attention to speed, they have to watch for the lights changing. These or just a few basics to maneuver a car properly, not too mention actually making the vehicle go an stop whilst doing all these tasks to ensure your safety & This is constant Until point A to point B, an the whole time a cyclist is dangerously lurking around their car, that they pay thousands of pounds a year maintaining and insuring and taxing and fueling.. It Is just one less thing a Driver needs to be worrying about, if a cyclist are following their HC Rules (59 to 82). Not read the entire thing an think all sections and rules apply to them? Don't get me wrong some other rules can be useful to know and reading the HC can be beneficial if a cyclist later wants to Drive a Vehicle, But again if you read the wrong rule an think you can then perform that rule it is you who will be in the wrong if the worst is to happen.
    You know over half the cyclist accidents end up being the cyclist faults because they declare some random article out of the HC Which does not apply to a cyclist.. And leaves Traffic cops thinking WTF An it is those who get a court appearance later an fined for damages and reckless behaviour *Section 28 & 29 of the road traffic act.* The only reason the Police or not tougher on cyclist at the moment is all to do with them encouraging people to cycle an cycle to work ect for a greener environment an lower pollution levels and less dependent on foreign oil, as every year they get quotas on global emissions set out to enforce.
    But once that cookie crumbles and budgets start getting short you can bet they'll start grabbing that cash from cyclist one way or another.
    As i know you're a stickler for facts and proof this link is a 2015 article declaring that 33% of cyclist were at fault, in the last 5 years cycling has more than doubles ergo 66% or to be fairer would be around 55% to 60% still more cyclist in the wrong and also even when a vehicle is blamed by a cyclist for say turning to fast, it is usually because the cyclist was not seen, because they ride in blind spots such as on the white lines. These cases usually get dismissed the driver fixes a bump or dent in their car, the cyclist buys a new bike an often visits a hospital.
    assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/447674/pedal-cyclists-2013-data.pdf

  • @boyan619
    @boyan619 Před 5 lety

    should just REPORT to the POLICE

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety

      He didn't do anything illegal, I guess running the red light at the end actually. There was nothing wrong with him passing me other than I disagreed with his view that cyclists can't pass on the outside.
      To report to the police you have to have video for 2 minutes before and for after the incident. I didn't save enough video to report him.

  • @billytscherne4643
    @billytscherne4643 Před 5 lety

    OMG NYC is a picnic compared to London hats off.....

  • @happyface6004
    @happyface6004 Před 5 lety +1

    When I watch this video it just makes me more aware that there are a lot of road users on the road who have no idea about the highway code.
    Knowing this makes me concentrate on my own safety more as this video proves you just cannot rely on a stranger to get it right.
    Whatever next, he will say that cyclists aren't allowed on the motorway!

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety

      Ha, when I was a teenager a friend and I cycle on the hard shoulder of a motorway. A very very dumb thing to have done!

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety

      @Ian Thatcher Is not too bad if everyone follows it.

    • @happyface6004
      @happyface6004 Před 5 lety

      @Ian Thatcher I personally think that the highway code is very good that's why I made this video:
      czcams.com/video/BQtp92HjgBo/video.html
      As with any advice there is always room for improvement, but I think that the biggest issue is keeping drivers (and cyclists) up to date with any changes.
      It would be good for drivers to take regular online theory tests just to update and refresh their knowledge and understanding.
      Maybe I should start an online petition? 😁

    • @happyface6004
      @happyface6004 Před 5 lety

      @Ian Thatcher there are also some planned updates coming soon;
      www.gov.uk/government/news/review-of-highway-code-set-to-empower-cyclists-and-pedestrians
      Let's hope that the general public is educated on these changes.

  • @peterjohnson9077
    @peterjohnson9077 Před 5 lety +3

    You did chop in front of him to be honest, other cyclist done the smart thing and went left!

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +2

      I chop or cut someone up is where you pull out right in front of them, forcing them to brake etc. I looked before pulling out and the guy was so far back I couldn't even see him.
      I've passed 2 cars by the time he comes up to me. From the speed he passed me at I bet much doubt he had to brake. He does brake a little further ahead of me once he passes.
      He was faster than me, being on a moped and seemed inconvenienced by catching up a cyclist and having to go around.
      When he passes he doesn't shout that I've cut him up. He just shouts "inside" as he doesn't want cyclists in his way in the outside. He only starts with the "you cut me up stuff" when I highlight that the rules are the same for the both of us.
      I suspect, deep down he know that cycles can be on the outside just as much as mopeds can be. Hence he tries to change the subject.

    • @peterjohnson9077
      @peterjohnson9077 Před 5 lety +1

      Ryan Sedgwick nonsense mate, u underestimated his speed , I think he was reasonable when u pulled up near him, be honest, was your mistake

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +2

      @@peterjohnson9077 I didn't underestimate anything, I looked before pulling out and he was not there. I suspect he was still in the traffic lane and had not pulled to the outside to over-take.
      I can't underestimate what I can't see, I looked, it was clear and I pulled out. It was several seconds before he caught up to me, and there was plenty of space for him to pass me without braking or slowing.
      What he said to me was incorrect, as I highlight with the extract from the Highway Code in my video, cycles can pass on either side.

    • @peterjohnson9077
      @peterjohnson9077 Před 5 lety +1

      Ryan Sedgwick there's no denying u pulled in front of him, your quick glance wasn't enough, simply foolish

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +1

      @@peterjohnson9077 I looked and it was clear, he wasn't there. Not much more I can do. I can't predict the future.
      As I put in my video, if he was doing 20mph he'd have been four bus lengths back. More likely he'd have been zipping along at 30mph so would have been even further back, hence not visible.
      I had straightened up and had been going in the same direction for several seconds before he caught up to me.
      I was going a lot slower than him, that's a fact. Coming across slower traffic ahead is very different to bring cut up though.

  • @hymatwat9412
    @hymatwat9412 Před 5 lety +1

    Dangerous cycling

  • @JohnGodwin
    @JohnGodwin Před 5 lety +3

    God, did you see how long the cyclist chased him for? That level of insecurity is completely non-fixable. This is what makes driving stressful, this guy just couldn't let a tiny moment like that go, and he got so mad that he even went home and edited a video to show everyone how right he was.
    I hope to god I never become this kind of person.
    The worst part is that regardless of who was in the right, the smart thing to do was go left like the other cyclist.
    What a tit.

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +4

      I didn't chase him, that's the direction I go home! I cycle all the way along the embankment to Fulham. Mopeds are much faster so I doubted I'd see him again.
      I happened to see him at the next light, and explained that the rules are the same for both of us.
      I put up lots of cycling videos to show what it's like to cycle in London. This was a prime example of where another roaduser feels that, somehow the cyclists have less of a right to be there than anyone else, unfortunately an incorrect view encountered a lot by cyclists.
      Going on the inside inevitably means being squeezed against the kerb by a car, and I could see how congested it was ahead. Going on the outside gives a much clearer route to the light (hence why the moped was doing the same). So if I'm a "tit" for wanting to get to the light quicker and avoiding being squeezed, then so be it. At least I didn't run the red like the moped guy! 😉

    • @JohnGodwin
      @JohnGodwin Před 5 lety +3

      @@ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007 Mate, whatever makes you feel better about being insufferably petty. You could tell by the way you were riding that you were not only hopeful of catching him up, but also intent on it. Most normal human beings, having ridden that distance, would've completely ignored the moped rider and been over the whole thing. However, you're deeply insecure, so you had to regain your sense of honour by confronting the man for the crime of... criticising you.
      That's not the part that makes you a tit, though. The part that makes you a tit is that hours or days later, you were still so incensed and offended by the utterly innocuous comment, given by the moped rider that you spent your personal time editing a few, WITH BLOODY SUBTITLES. I can get the being annoyed, I can get the chasing him (just so petty), but I cannot get the part where instead of getting home and completely forgetting the event, you're still motivated enough to bother putting the video online. There's so many parts to this where normal people just go, "ah, fuck it..." and move on. At every turn, you're still mad, still offended, still needing a win.
      Seriously, just get a life. If you think you already have one, you don't. Normal people don't spend their free making these kind of videos.

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +2

      @@JohnGodwin Did you know the bit where you think I'm chasing him is sped up yeah? That's like 4x normal speed, not me frantically chasing! 😂
      Watch some of my other videos, I cycle approx 25mph along the embankment every day. Moped or no moped.
      I like making cycle videos, it's a hobby. I make money from CZcams every time you watch one. If you think the video is so sad, why are you on here watching it and writing essays about it? What does that say about your life? 😉

    • @JohnGodwin
      @JohnGodwin Před 5 lety +2

      Ryan Sedgwick oh god, what an embarrassing response. You “make money” from these videos? With your 717 views? Jesus Christ that’s cringeworthy.
      What it says about me is that I watch videos and then I use the comment section to give my thoughts about them.
      Good god, I seriously can’t believe you just pulled the “I’m making money” line on a video with less than 1000 views. I’m genuinely stunned.

    • @JohnGodwin
      @JohnGodwin Před 5 lety +1

      From business insider:
      “Roughly, a video creator will earn $2,000 for every million views. "And then CZcams takes 45 percent,"”
      So you’ve earned a whopping 46p from this video 😂😂😂

  • @belial2347
    @belial2347 Před 5 lety +4

    You did cut him up though

    • @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007
      @ryansedgwick-londoncycling9007  Před 5 lety +4

      I looked before pulling out and I couldn't see him. He was a long way back. It's not like I popped right out in front of him.
      I think he just didn't like finding a cycle in his path.