Toro Super Recycler // Honda Engine (21382) // Is it worth buying?
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- So you've decided to pull the trigger on a new Toro Super Recycler. Which engine do you choose? Honda, Briggs, Toro, or go full battery with the 60V? I haven't seen many reviews on the Toro Super Recycler equipped with the upgraded Honda GCV160. Is the Honda upgrade really worth the extra cost? Ben and I talk about this and more in this review video on the Toro Super Recycler 21382.
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they say the blacker the mower, the sweater the juice. i say the darker the grass, the deeper the roots
Thug life!
Thanks for the review. I have a 20 year old Lawn Boy with a Honda engine. I don't maintain it, just cut the lawn. The pull cord broke and was tied back together, and most of the cord handle has broken off, which make it a little harder to start. For me, one huge advantage of this one is the aluminum deck. My Lawn Boy deck, like most other push mowers, is steel, and with years of wet grass clogging underneath, has resulted in rust-through holes, which now make it unsafe to use. Lawn Boy developed the Personal Pace system, which I love on mine, because it automatically disengages when you back up, while the other types of drive systems, need to be disengaged before you pull back otherwise the wheels "fight back"! It seems to me that the blade stop system wastes gas, because the engine keeps on going, so on those rare occasions that I need to stop, a quick pull of the cord and it starts up again. So, this mower looks like a great choice for me, however, sadly, I hear that it has been discontinued.
I still can't get over how close Brandon put his hand to that Snickers bar in his lawn.
If you watch closely I think I actually bumped it a little bit.
I recently purchased this exact model. Its extremely light compared to a Husqvarna I used to have. I bag my clippings and when the bag fills up, the front end tends to pull up. Even more so now that I attached my Big League Lawn CheckMate striping kit.
I like how the deck is specifically designed for mulching. The full bag lifting the front off the ground wouldn’t be much of an issue because it’s best to mulch most of the time unless your yard has a fungus.
Great review! I also prefer the BBC on a mower, with the non-EPA throttle lever for fine tuning the RPM and also using the low idle when bagging, but for a mulcher, nimbleness and quality cut/mulch wins out, as a BBC is unnecessary. With my 5.5hp Super Pro Recycler II, a better cut is achieved with a slightly *lower* RPM, but I don't know why that is. It may be because my 27 year-old Toro has a different deck design (it also has the baffles) but it has the throttle control lever to fine tune it. I have Kentucky blue and perennial rye (not quite as thick as your lawn, though), and even when mulching a few inches off the top (as long as its dry), it converts the clippings to virtual dust (which I don't expect you to believe). It may also be due to having a dedicated mulching blade...
I have one exactly the same model and I love it! I was never a personal pace fan but after using this one it is very easy to use and maneuver. I came from using Snapper commercial 21inch mowers and I also was looking for blade stop and a throttle knob, but honestly, this machine has more than enough power, and the since the mower starts so easily you don't really need the blade stop. Not to mention it has long-lasting HONDA ENGINE so it will last longer than the Briggs.
I like mower, but for the price point I think you sacrifice quite a few options that are available on other models for the same price.
You can absolutely adjust the engine RPMs on a Honda engine by either moving the governor spring to the 1st or 2nd hole position in the governor arm. If that isn't enough based upon what your tach reads you can physically bend the governor arm (gently) to achieve the desired RPM. 👍
Thanks for the tip!
I moved the spring to the second opening on my gcv160 and it made a world of difference!!
After about 3 yrs I'd say it's definitely worth it. Glad I bought this model vrs the junkie 2022 model. I don't know how toro can justify putting crappy wheels, crappy air filter and crappy everything else and charge $100.00 more. I'm telling you know, hold on to that mower and do like I'm about to do putting the Briggs and Stratton 223cc on that deck when my Honda wears down.
Well for the backyard lawn it did fine. The front lawn is the showcase. Reel and low is where its at. I realized you let the lawn grow tall for this video and to see how it would work. I think it would work fine with regular mowing once or twice a week and double cutting
This is what I came to say. Gotta feature a guest in the front yard soon for our viewing pleasure!! Nice work guys!
Cut quality is great no matter the HOC and I normally double cut every time. Just wish it had more to offer at the price point, reel mowing is the star of the show!
Power duo! But I have to say, it looks very not natural you pushing a rotary! Great video bro. Keep on keeping on.
Ben secretly caught the reel mowing bug, he wont admit that just yet.
@@TurfCulture it always happens that way!
Correct me if I’m wrong but there is a model with “blade stop” or “spin stop”… it doesn’t have smart stow but it does have spin stop if you’re like Ben and really love that feature. The price point is in the $700s though. Model 21389
Yes there is with with the Briggs and Toro engines. Unfortunately not with the Honda.
Ben's Traveling Mower Show?? When are you heading to Minnesota?? 😎 I love my 2021 Toro Super Recycler with the Briggs and Stratton. The cut quality is out-standing!
Great rivew. I got one about 3 season ago. To be honest knowing what I know, I would go a different route, maybe a cheaper recyclers. I have to say my deck do not stay that clean but I mow low. That's another thing while it cuts well at lower H.O.C it dumps all the clippings at the ends of each pass. For the money you can get more features with other toro or even other brands.
100% agree. I use it on my 1" KBG from time to time just to clean up debris or get some uplift to the grass.
@@TurfCulture what would you recommend over this for around the same price point
I’d like it to have
Adjustable mowing height
Rwd
Bag,mulch,side discharge
@@phantom3292 I’d recommend the super recycler with a Briggs engine or a Honda HRX model.
How much better is the Honda over the Briggs
@@phantom3292 I do prefer the Honda engines but you have to sacrifice a lot of features to get it on a Toro. Might as well just buy a Honda mower for the same price.
They all have their pros and cons. It was nice seeing how nimble these mowers are without a striper. So much easier. What’s with the super dark green block by the swing set?
That is new sod, we had a big oak tree removed from that spot earlier in the spring.
@@TurfCulture gotcha. I thought that’s where you dumped your humic out or something
The 21386 is the smart stow version. Buy a briggs at your own risk! and the newer hondas ive heard countless horror stories
Next up model 21388 correct? 60 volt SR with auto and max switch and 7.5 Ah battery?
I would love to test that mower!
@@TurfCulture and the 60 volt just finally started coming out in greater numbers and it checks your boxes for blade stop, Smart Stow, and the speed rev up that you mentioned the gas one doesn’t do. And $700. Maybe next time…
Is the honda gcv 160 a reliable engine? Thinking of getting one of these also how is it for bagging?
Honda engines are very reliable
The Honda vs the Toro engine must be underpowered for gas consumption/EPA standards. My Toro engine cuts it all with very tall grass after surge growth. I walk around bare footed with no blades sticking.
The super recycler has an aluminum deck, not steel.
Honda engine struggles in tall grass, leaves uncut grass. Mine is less than a year old and already giving me problems with the engine. My old one with the briggs was much better than the Honda. The Honda also uses way more gas.
I like the Honda engine I just wish the mower had more to offer for the price.
$650 and it doesn’t even have the options you want 😲
But it does what I need!
And only 165 cc at that!
Honda>Toro
Hard to disagree with you on that, both have pros and cons. I bought a Honda HRN a few years ago and ended up returning it because it left a strip of grass uncut on every pass, when I researched the issue I found out it was fairly common with Honda mowers.
If comparing to the Recycler line from Toro, I’d agree. But Super Recycler beats Honda mowers particularly at the price point.