Cardo PACKTALK/BOLD - More Volume and "Auto-Volume" Feature
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2019
- The Auto-volume on this thing will make everything louder as your environment gets louder (like getting on the freeway) which works great because you don't have to constantly change volume manually. This also means that "max volume" while sitting still or testing in your living room is NOT ITS TRUE MAX VOLUME. If you want to be able to hit true max volume at anytime, without loud ambient noise, turn the feature off. This kills the auto adjusting obviously, but gives you full control of volume at any time....
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I'm deaf as a post, so mine is on max (auto off) all the time lol. Many thanks from across the pond😉👍
Awesome! This has been driving me crazy, never figured out how to fix this. But this video tells it all, brilliant
Thank you! Disabling the AGC did the trick. I appreciate your help.
Thank you! I was wondering the answer to this exact question!
Great videos. Very helpful. Thank you
Great review man, i was looking for something like this thanks!
Awesome, thanks!
Thanks for this!!! Was thinking the volume was a little lacking now it’s too loud haha 😂
Nice!!
Thank you so much I was wondering why my volume kept turning down on its own I almost returned it thank you thank you thank you
Awesome thanks for the comment and glad it helped!
You saved my life.👍👍
Rad!!
On my Burgman I prefer “low” setting, probably same case for bikes with big windshield. If I use medium, ACG raise volume too high, so you need to manually readjust it all the time
I just got the cardo pack talk bold. It sounds great and I’ve adjusted the different volumes for music, etc.
Everything is fine except for the beeps etc are excruciatingly loud. How do I turn them down?
I have system announcements turned way down but it doesn’t control the beeps.
I just did this and it's much louder now.
I found out what was wrong, if you listen to apple music, idk why but, apple will be sneaky sometimes through updates and they turned my sound check on which will ruin your loudness, cut it off and in your phone settings and everything will be good again, if its on it cripples all Bluetooth devices
This was a great help thank you I just got my pack talk and was wondering how to change it all, appreciate you
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My problem is with a 2018 goldwing. When I transmit, others hear me fine, but when I receive, I hear nothing for about 2 seconds, then low volume that gets increasingly louder, but never loud enough. Huh?
i've got a cardo freecom 4+ when I use the intercom feature it'll mute my phone sound volume so no music ect. Why is that?
I rode with 2 other packtalk edge riders, my issue is other riders sounded very garbled at speed 60 mph and higher. Other 2 riders didn't have this problem, they could hear each other fine. Any suggestions with solutions?
I turned it on, and now i can't turn off. Now, the volume always goes all the way up and screaming as soon as i get 50+ mhp.
Even deleted the app, but the problem isn't solved.
If you want the max volume with AGC on, what sensitivity setting do you use?
Set the sensitivity to High, that way it's triggered easier and will start giving more volume earlier
Hi, i've recently bought the Cardo Packtalk but keep having trouble with an echoing sound. Due to the loudness of the speakers it keeps activating the microphone and lowers the volume (whilst playing music).
Oh wow - I haven't heard of this before. Sorry for the stupid question but does that happen only when the helmet is off (because I could almost see that making sense) or does it happen when you're wearing the helmet (this one is harder to wrap my head around because that shouldn't be loud enough to trigger the mic like that). Perhaps try changing the mic sensitivity to "Low", that should definitely help... hope so!
hello, perhaps you have a solution for this, we using the intercom mode and both have the radio on. When we talk to eachother both radio volume is going to the background. When we do not talk then my radio volume is going back to the volume i want, but the the cardo of my boyfriend is stays low. The presets are exactly the same. very odd.
Hmmm yeah that is odd. Only thing I would suggest is to have him set his FM volume prior to you turning on your headset. Once he has it nice and loud, turn yours on and begin to speak. The FM volume will sink to the background as it should....but....when you (and him) stop speaking, the volume of his headset's FM SHOULD return to that "pre-intercom" level. You won't have to do this every time, but it's the only way I can think of to shake the bug out of what is going on. Hope that helps and hope it works!
thanks for the video. in my app it doent have that feature to change sensitivity help thanks
Hey there - not sure if you’re on Android or not (I only know iOS), but it should be there regardless I would think? Make sure you’re using the Cardo Connect app, and your firmware on your Cardo is up to date. Also, not sure if that’s an option for their FREECOM line so that may be the case as well (might only be for DMC/Mesh headsets). Hope that helps!
Hi, I seem to struggle with volume on my Smartpack. I understand Cardo are releasing a 45mm set of JBL speakers. Will you be reviewing a set. Better quality sound I expect but louder. I hope so.
Yes I’m hoping to get my hands on a set of those ASAP! Although, I don’t expect more volume, i expect even better “sound”. What size speakers came with your Smartpack? I currently have the 40mm speakers that came with Packtalk and they are really very loud. The MOST IMPORTANT THING: make sure those things are Directly over your ear. Sounds stupid, but “close” is not good enough. I pulled them out, cranked the music, and placed the speakers right on my ears. Then, I chased that same volume in my helmet by moving them around ever-so-slightly. Kind of a pain, but pays off big time. It should almost be too loud when placed perfectly. Anyways...hope that helps and I’ll do a vid on the 45mm when I get a set!
MotoGeek Freak. Thx for the reply. My speakers are the standard ones that came with the Cardo. I wear custom plugs which cuts the volume but I’ll have another go at positioning.
Hey, when riding if I receive a phone call the ring tone BLOWS my ears off, no matter what volume I have the call setting at or music, it is way louder than my music ever could possibly be. Is there a setting where I can turn down the ring tone? My phone is on silent in my pocket if that helps.
I haven't come across this so I'm really guessing, but have you tried adjusting the "System Volume" (or maybe it's "System Announcements" under the Volume tab in the Cardo Connect app? Curios if that would fix it. Otherwise I'd dig into the volume settings of your phone, specifically if there's anything about volume when paired to a Bluetooth device. Also, try pairing your Packtalk to someone else's phone; if it still does it you know something is up with the Packtalk. If it doesn't blow your ears off when paired to a different phone, you know it's something with your phone. Hope that helps and good luck!
I'm searching for an answer to this as well. I have the volume where I want it, but I dread the day someone calls me while I'm at speed on the freeway. So loud it hurts!
Do you know how to fix the speaker louder on 1 side than the other?
This sounds terribly obvious, but do try - it's 99% chance going to be caused by one of the speakers being in the "ideal" spot while the other is off just a bit. Trying adjusting quieter speaker just a bit to get it in a better position over your ear. I'm almost certain that will do the trick. Also worth checking, make SURE the speakers are plugged-in all the way. Hope that helps and good luck!
What song is that, at the 1:00 mark? I've been trying to find it, and it's driving me crazy lol
Fight Fire with Fire by Kansas
A problem I have found is the music and radio volume doesn’t go loud enough when the wife and I are connected in DMC mode. Music more so, can barely hear it. When the wife turned her unit off my music went to a decent volume and I could adjust it louder again 🤷🏻♂️
@Triple Black Pieman Do this it will help for sure: In the Cardo Connect app go to the volume settings and adjust "Background Music Level". Raise it up and that will keep the music/fm volume from being so low when she's connected to you!
Exactly why i searched this video; couldn’t hear music when riding with a buddy connected to mesh; solo, no prob.
Seems odd to call it “background music” when nothing was going on in the foreground. To me “background” would be during actual speaking.
Turning off Auto Volume is working for me. I drive a fairly quiet bike (BMW RTW), and the fairling keeps the noise level pretty low. But I am having a problem with the volume level fluctuating when\2ever my wife turns on her Packtalk. Mine goes from LOUD to medium on about a 2-second cycle--like her unit wants to transmit something. Her settings are same as mine: Microphone sensitivity is set to medium. There is absolutely no sound in our "living room test". Any ideas?
Hmmm...the music will definitely lower when someone else (in this case your wife) transmits...could it perhaps be her breathing? Does the same thing happen if you put YOUR Packtakl on her base and visa-versa? I would try a couple things...try heading outside where there's a little more ambient noise and see if it continues. The mics get progressively more stubborn as the ambient noise goes up. If that doesn't do the trick, set her mic sensitivity to "Low" and test again. There's definitely something going on with her Packtalk broadcasting... just have to figure out what's going on there... I hope that helps!
@@MotoGeekFreak i had same problem. i solved this by pairing my wifes unit directly to the cardo app on my phone rather than letting my unit pair with hers using the packtalk bold method. jobs a good em ,i now have full volume back .
@@chrisa1601 Your phone is paired to both units? I’m confused, but would love to know more about the solution you found!
My cardio Mic is picking up the engine sound and making my rider I am paired to, go deaf. I cant use the my cardio when im riding with someone. How do i fix the mic sensitivity?
@Courtney Capizzi are you using the wired mic or the boom mic? When this happens, I always recommend using the boom mic and make double-sure that the little yellow triangle on the boom mic is facing your mouth. Try this if not already and I hope it helps!
I have noticed when our group leaves a stop, several harley’s and aggressive sport bikes will over rev and dominate the group chat. After we hit 50 or so, they fade off. We just learn to not talk at that point. Not sure about your passenger and blasting them out. Maybe they need this auto volume fix described here?
Hey, I can’t hear my ringtone in my Helmet when someone calls. I know because of my fit bit watch vibrating, I am able to answer then but I don’t hear the ringtone initially. I’m so lost lol
Have someone call you with your helmet on and your phone in your hand. Once the call comes in, raise the volume on your PHONE. This should raise your phone's ringtone volume when connected to a Bluetooth headset. Absolutely should do the trick, hope that helps!
I have a recently purchased set of Bold units and find the volume to be dismally low compared to my former wired BMW headsets. I believe mine are still on the default setting, which I think is medium, and this may be my problem. The volume is not bad when not wearing earplugs, but I always where earplugs when riding any distance at all. I was not sure how the Cardo algorithm worked for this autovolume, but it makes sense now that I understand it. The higher the autovolume setting, the greater the “setback” from max volume prior to any automatic volume adjustment. I ride a fairly quite bike (K1200LT) and I am guessing the wind noise isn’t enough to get the auto volume adjustment to crank up enough on the medium setting. I am going to try OFF next and see if I can manually get enough volume to hear with my earplugs installed. My corded headset had plenty of volume capability even with earplugs in. I needed only about half the volume capability with them so I was surprised that even at full volume, the Cardo units are insufficient. Hopefully, some changes to this autovolume setting will help.
And I did buy the JBL speakers, but they aren’t all that impressive. Maybe it is just the volume issue, but so far they don’t sound as good as my 12 year old BMW (made by J&M) corded headset.
@LTVoyager Hmmmm yeah something sounds funky. They should be pretty d@mn loud!? I know this is a pain, but this is what I've done to make sure I get the speakers correctly placed... perhaps it's worth trying just to make sure:
-Remove the speakers from the helmet and while holding them in your hands, place them DIRECTLY over your ears (earplugs in, and speakers touching your ears)
-Turn Packtalk all the way up (with the Auto-Gain setting "off" it won't be reliant on ambient noise to get as loud as possible)
It should be plenty loud at this point
-Position the speakers in your helmet so that they sound exactly as they did when you were holding them...this insures they're in the right place. If your helmet has a place for the speakers to go; disregard it. Put the speakers wherever they need to be to sound like they did when you were holding them against your ears.
This should solve the issue (assuming nothing is wrong with your headset itself). The volume coming out of these should be borderline too-much at max volume...
I hope that helps and let me know how the test goes!!
MotoGeek Freak Mine are borderline too loud without earplugs and I did test them before installation. I just didn’t hold them against my ears while wearing earplugs before installation. I will experiment with the autovolume settings and see if that helps.
@@LTVoyager Okay yes would be curious to hear how it goes once you give it a try
MotoGeek Freak So, I turned the AGC off using the app. I then power cycled the Bold as you mentioned that the off setting seemed to not take effect without a power cycle. The volume definitely seems louder than it was on the default medium setting. It is plenty loud without earplugs in as that was my first test. I could stand it on full volume, but it was getting to the threshold where you would not want to listen to it very long at that volume. Not quite rock concert volume, but then I don’t want to listen that that very long anymore either!
I then inserted my ear plugs and with the volume on full, the music was fairly clear. I backed it off using the voice commands and two iterations of “Hey Cardo, volume down” was about all I could do and still hear the music at 55 MPH on my KLR650. A third “volume down” command made the music quite faint with the earplugs in. So, better, but still not as good as I would like and much less volume capability than corded headsets.
Using a poor, fair, good excellent scale, I would rate the Packtalk Bold JBL sound as fair now, whereas it was poor on the medium AGC setting. I would rate my corded headsets as good on this scale and excellent would be a pair of earbuds that serve both speaker and earplug roles with the speakers now inside the earplugs. 😁
@@LTVoyager Enjoy your comments; extremely detailed yet to the point. Happy to hear that you got some noticeable boost when disabling AGC (allowing you to go to it's TRUE max volume without the need for ambient noise). Did you end up trying the "hold the speakers directly against your ears then chase that same volume in the helmet with speaker placement" method? I still think there might be a lot more to gain by doing so...... but you're there and I'm here so not much basis for claiming so, ha! (still, you should try it just in case)
BTW they make such a thing (earphones that are molded to YOUR ear and double as earplugs. Had some made a few months back and they are AWE-SOME.)
My cardo volume seems to go down on its own it will go right down to where i cant hear anyone. I keep having to turn it up
Does the volume go up when you tap on the headset (like in this video)? If it does, then the Auto Volume is working properly, so that's good. If it doesn't, then something's up. Assuming it DOES work, could it be that the speakers need to be in a better position over your ear? It should be plenty loud (and stay that way) when they are directly over your ears, but if they're a little out of position it can rob volume massively. The only time it should go down at all is when the auto volume lowers back to "normal" when your ambient noise decreases. Otherwise, somethings up and I'd give them a ring for sure. Hope that helps!
packtalk says the battery life on these devices are 12 hours. I am n ot getting anything near that. Any pointers?
I get closer to 10 on average. Maybe 13 if I'm hardly using it (FM radio only and at low volume) and as low as 8 if I'm really working it (multiple riders all connected in DMC and blasting music in the background), so I'd say if you're getting anything less than that prob worth reaching out to them for warranty.
Is there a way I can share my music with a non cardo??
Unfortunately no, but that would be awesome.
@@MotoGeekFreak thanks for reply looks like I need to buy her a new headset
after 6 hours of normal use and a battery recharge my voice now sounds all crackly to my wife. we haven't tried swapping the units over or adjusting any levels. any ideas?
Yeah that's a bit weird. Def try switching the units to see what happens (could be a bad mic?) and if the problem follows the unit, do a Master Reset on both and try again. If STILL an issue I'd prob reachout to Cardo for support. Best of luck and hope that helps!
@@MotoGeekFreak we swapped units and she still hears a crackly sound when i talk??? to me they are both fine. the radio and music are fine to both of us. maybe the fault is with my voice? or my mic.
How the hell do you turn down the notification BEEP. That shit is beyond annoying being so loud.
How to turn up my microphone? my friends can't here me to good
cecilcoleman64 ; I’m not familiar with a volume up function but this is what I have learned.... you have the be EATING the microphone. Get that thing against your lips. If you used the Velcro tab to stick your microphone to the vents and you can get your fingers between your lips and the mic, it’s too far. After a season, I ditched the Velcro patch and the corded mic in my Packtalk kit and swapped it out for the boom mic from my kit. Now I have some adjustability and can get that thing up tight to my lips. Good luck!
reedrobb And if using the boom mic always make sure that little yellow triangle is facing towards your mouth 👍
@@MotoGeekFreak tried both and seems to still be quiet on both packtalk bolds, music volume is loud but mic volume isnt even half of the music volume.
@@jacebennington5578 Something's not right. Have you tried switch cradles? Wonder if something is wrong with the base cradle or mic connection itself...
@@jacebennington5578 Did you find a solution? I'm having trouble with the microphone too..
what is the app?
The app is called "Cardo Connect"
I have no clue as to why these are rated as highly as they are. I had a Sena set and switched to one of these after reading all the positive reviews but my son and I can hardly hear each other on these and eventually just give up trying to communicate with each other after a while. Luckily I still have my Sena and will be switching back (and it isn't even one of the later Sena series). Also, I swapped helmets with my mate's girlfriend so I could chat with him a month or so ago and there el cheapo ebay Chinese ones sounded MUCH louder and clearer than either my Cardo or Sena. WTF!
Yeah that's super strange - bummer to hear that was your experience! I honestly cannot turn mine all the way up because at that point it's far TOO loud. Speaker position and mic placement (of whoever is talking to you) is critical, and assuming those were correct, you should have had all the volume you could ask for. Strange.
Why dos mine keep bringing the radio on when I don’t ask for it very frustrating 😡
Martyn Leyfield Do you have the original Packtalk? If so, the easiest way to stop that from happening is to kill the Voice Operation feature. Just turn it off. Especially if you’re not using voice commands anyways. It wasn’t until the Packtalk BOLD came out with “Natural Voice Operation” that they (any of the comm companies) were able to completely eliminate false triggers. Hope that helps!!
Thanks for your reply,but it’s actually the pack talk bold units I have and there just a nightmare one unit dos it a lot and the one not quite so much but it get very annoying and they are running on a quite up to date firmware
@@martynleyfield2941 Unless you are saying the very specific words "Hey Cardo" the voice command functioned shouldn't trigger AT ALL, it shouldn't even be listening to anything (unlike before when it was just triggered by a loud noise). That being said, if it's a Bold (only if it's a Bold), and turning it on out of nowhere, somethings is wrong and I'd give them a call. Hope that helps and you get it going properly!
MotoGeek Freak thanks but I can’t believe I’m the only one getting this problem or am I 🤔
Martyn Leyfield You have a Bold with “Natural Voice” tech, which was designed to get rid of false activations (which you’re getting and should NOT happen ever), id give them a call man.
with earplugs in i cant hear shit above 60 km/h
no one can hear me on microphoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee