"Upgrades Unleashed" Budget Upgrade Guide - Neon Dynasty | Command Zone 446 | Magic: The Gathering
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Show Notes:
Want to upgrade your “Upgrades Unleashed” deck without unleashing too much money? Look no further! It’s time for our budget upgrade guide for the Kamigawa Neon Dynasty Gruul preconstructed deck. We’ll show you how to modify your list with 10 cards in and 10 cards out (for under $30) so you'll be equipped to handle anything! You can rebuild it, we have the technology!
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The additional copy of Mossfire Bridge was actually supposed to be Nissa, Voice of Zendikar. It was an official image on the spoiler page until they took it down, but it's still on Scryfall. No effing clue why Wizards lied about taking it out.
Well, it could have been removed way earlier, but the image already got mocked up.
But hey, all you guys having inside information, when's the RL list getting removed?
@@Karonar guess we will see next week if there is a 122 card or not. Still a good product just don’t like when people lie to cover themselves…we’ll see.
Additionally is there a card which produced the plant token contained in the precon?
@@danhan121 I dont see your point? We dont know if there's a plant token in it, and decks can get changed after printing :shrug:
But it's easier to hate then to just be happy with what we get...
@@Karonar there is still a plant token in the visual spoiler token 9 IIRC. Only the Nissa was removed from the visual spoiler leaving a gap between 121 and 123.
I’m not mad it was missed, mistakes happen. I just don’t like the mindset of people lying about it being a basic land to cover themselves.
Also gonna leave a big gap in my Commander collections I keep as there will likely not be a 122 card to put in the binder
@@Karonar Being happy with the current state of Magic is exposing yourself as a PayCuck and a Gold Tier Subscriber to WotC's OnlyFans.
The only upgrade I could really think of was Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.
Word on the street is that was what the 2nd mossfire valley was supposed to be
@@animesfreakify Word through the grapevine says Promo Nissa, VoZ is expected to be the next big Heroes of the Coast drop.
Tanazir plus Teleportation Circle
it whas sopposed to be in there but there whas a missprint and that is why there were to special lands (idk the name) in there
Its not a budget option, but what about craterhoof behemoth?
What do you all think about putting Nissa, Voice of Zendikar in there and taking out one of the Mossfire Valleys? She can put a counter on all your creatures in one activation and also make creatures. Seems perfect for this deck and it's only $4. Oh and the deck will come with a plant token already even though none of the included cards make plant tokens so easy upgrade. #nec122
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Hahahaha you might as well said we should buy nissa and put it back ourselves because wotc is cheapskate.
Ouch...
Love this
You know what would go perfect in this deck Nissa, Voice of Zendikar #nec122
Beat me to it!
And, yes, #nec122!
What is "#nec122"?
Hope my reply isn’t deleted a third time 🤣
Nevermind it was
It’s on scryfall as nec122 Nissa
@@danhan121 My first one was too!
I think adding Nissa, Voice of Zendikar would be a great way to use that 0/1 plant token they included with the precon. It feels like a waste of a token since nothing else in the deck makes plant tokens
the extra land was supposed to be nissa
Yeah there is a Nissa missing in that deck
#nec122
Yeah I wish they hadn’t underhandedly put a non-basic land in there to cover up taking Nissa out.
I really hope they address the missing nissa and correct their mistake stating a basic land was supposed to be there in place of the double card
They better bring up the missing Nissa, I’m still shocked that hasboro hasn’t addressed it yet.
Highly disappointed Josh.
I’m assuming this was made and set to release before yesterday. So aside from a quick side note it’s not like they could have addressed it as a regular part of the video
@@harleybaker4684 Huh? The original deck list included Nissa so wouldn't they have been using that list to create the video?
@@ironocy496 Very good point.
@@ironocy496 listen, I almost included her as an add so.....I'm right here with you. :Z
It would be so nice to have a Planeswalker in this deck that put +1/+1 counters in all your creatures....like Nissa, for example #nec122
Would’ve been a nice “upgrade” if WotC left Nissa in the deck and didn’t lie about it…
Just picked up this deck 2023 Amazon Prime Day for about $20 USD! Super excited to play with it, I've peronally only ever played MTG Arean on my phone
Omg Nissa should be in this deck. It would smooth it out.
The big controversy is it was suppose to be apparently!
@@barryrott726 it is because it’s ability is to make plant tokens and you get plant tokens in the set
This is going to be my first deck! Thank you so much for the guide and advice 👏
Optional: swap out the extra copy of Mossfire Valley for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar 😞
Cards to Add:
Rancor
Animation Module
Embercleave
Renata, Called to the Hunt
Slippery Bogbonder
Cream of the Crop
Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith
Sai of the Shinobi
Avenger of Zendikar
Fractal Harness
Honorable Mentions:
Bloodforged Battle-Axe
Toralf, God of Fury//Toralf's Hammer
Ashaya, Soul of the Wild
Cards to Take Out:
Ulasht, the Hate Seed
Starstorm
Soul's Majesty
Primeval Protector
Blackblade Reforged
Goblin Razerunners
Kaima, the Fractured Calm
Orochi Merge-Keeper
Whiptongue Hydra
Bonehoard
The commander feels like Strefan in the way you get to choose to focus on the build, what direction and proportions you need in the deck. I love it and seems really fun.
So what about the missing Nissa, set number NEC122? And the duplicated land in the deck?
Really hope you guys talk about the Nissa/mossfire/basic land situation...
I wanted to get back into paper Magic after joining play group at my lgs, so I just bought the Upgrades Unleashed deck today. Now I’ll probably upgrade the deck while I’m gathering cards for my first custom deck.
Haven't seen any mention of my boi, Scavenging Ooze. Graveyard hate and makes himself modified. What's not to love from him? Also Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, Halana and Alena, Partners (the card from Crimson Vow, not the seperate cards from Commander Legends that have Partner) and The Great Henge are solid includes in here as well. GH will make your non-tokens modified when they enter and draw you a card, while also tapping for GG. HAP makes something modified and gives it haste at the start of combat on your turn, and Nissa both makes tokens and can modify your whole board at once next turn.
Bro the title says BUDGET
Scooze $1, Nissa $3, HAP $1, AOZ $7, only one that isn’t budget is Henge at $50. Chill.
Hey, Just picked this deck up and I'm worried that if I take the cards that they recommended to take out it will mess up the way the deck runs. you seem like your know what your talking about what are your thoughts on their picks for what to take out?
I bought this one and immediately turned it into a Gruul Enchantress build. Love it!
Is your deck list anywhere? I just got it and I’m looking to do the same in either Gruul or Naya!
I really like the set dressing for this episode. The four lights behind Josh and Ashlen are way more subtle than you'd expect from giant tube lights. And altogether everything looks lovely and Kamigawa-y.
12:40 Sword of Truth and Justice also puts a +1/+1 counter on a creature when it deals damage, then proliferates. It will still provide 2/3 requirements for Kosei.
yes, but only in the following turn, since it will deal damage, the triggers go on the stack and since it the Kosei requirements weren't met you don't get the carddraw that turn. At least afaik.
Where is #nec122?
Love this precon, I made my version more +1+1 and enchantment focused by adding Harden Scales and The Ozolith as well as some enchantresses and a ton more auras including the Wild Growth ramp auras. Also (since it is good in most decks) doubling season really goes nuts in this deck.
I'm super surprised that Hardened Scales didn't make the upgrade list. It's not too expensive and makes a huge impact when it comes to the +1/+1 counters the deck wants to make.
This deck fills in and solves alot of the issues for my riot deck and i can not wait to build.
I've been in games with chishiro where Bonehoard gives like +20/+20 lol, it often feels like one of the best cards in the deck to me
Very sweet picks there, Ashlen ! You nailed it. Thanks for the tips ! As much as I love Jimmy, it's really cool to have that rotation through the shows/podcasts.
I feel like the fact that this deck isn't actually playable out of the box needs more attention. There's a duplicate nonbasic land in the decklist.
I think the tokens are get for when you are playing someone that is can only remove your voltron commander by sacking. Making him have hexproof or shroud and then being indestructible can be done with equipment and green spell.
for me, I bought for the upgrade of this deck (have not decided waht to take yet) Highland Forest, Embercleave, boots of speed, gruul signet, slippery bogbonder, mending touch, frillscare mentor, Heightened Reflexes, Fully Grown, Titanoth Rex, lightning bolt, trollhide, cultivate, kodama's reach, harmonize, manamorphose, rune of might and rune of speed
how about a runed crown?
maybe it's a good tutor for runes specifically
@@bakuganfox I did not remembered this card existed when I bought my cards
@@joaocisne556 Now you better note it somewhere before buying new cards c:
@@bakuganfox I just lookde it up, not bad, but i think waht i have for this deck is enough for now, but i will save this one for later
Hardened Scales should be an auto include for this deck imo. I am surprised this wasnt at least an honorable mention.
Iridescent Hornbeetle would have been a fun include. Stack the triggers right and you’ll create a bigger token generator. goblin anarchomancer beef up the deck as well making spells cheaper. If you’re also going the +1 counters route for modified, pridemalkin gives all creatures you control with a +1 counter on it Trample.
Kaima, the Fractured Calm works after casting Smoke Spirit's Aid. What this deck needs, is trample for each creature with +1/+1 counter 😁
So far I have played Primeval Protector for G -> pretty good value.
Kodama of the West tree is what you're looking for with that
I think they forgot to update the description, the show notes are referring to the other precon. Great video though! I can't wait to do some modifications to the new precons
Im actually pretty excited to give this one a go. The last couple of Gruul precons have been awesome IMO and I expect this one to also be. Seems like a commander you can build a couple of decks around and just slide him into the deck you feel like playing.
I've been seen some videos 'bout this precon and i've seen that wizards said they printed two Mossfire Valley (and that's illegal in commander).
So my concern here is, in the precon we'll get a Nissa (the card number 122 that was deleted in the card image gallery) or we'll get two mossfires and no planeswalker in the set?
@@crazy_mode2618 there is no nissa, she was removed from the deck but anything else - a problem with marketing for sure. The second mossfire was supposed to be a mountain but its a nice freebie I suppose
I would add things like Duskshell Crawler and Pridemalkin that put a +1+1 counter on a creature and give all creatures with those counters trample, maybe Scurry Oak and Herd Baloth to get even more tokens when they gain those counters, and most important Evolution Sage, Power Conduit and Plaguemaw Beast to boost even more the counters strategy .
And most important my favorite Hydra, Wildwood Scourge.
is this the deck that is missing a card ?
Bloodforged battle axe is also broken if you are crazy enough to build balan as a commander. I played it before and it does more work than any sword of... equipment
Cream of the Crop is nuts with Lurking Predators btw - you can almost guarantee each trigger will chain into the next.
Yay. An Ashlen Episode!
Ashlen's hair looking great today!
I'm going combo on top of death and taxes. And will attack as game progression still attack for pressure
so if you used cream of the crop in conjunction with Garruk's Uprising could you stack the effects so you get to look at the top X cards first then draw the one you left on top?
Ulasht is my Gruul Deck...
I run a bunch of Equipment to give Ulasht Deathtouch so that I can poke dudes with Ulasht and they die. The nice part about Having Ulasht in the Zone as apposed to the 99 is if I run him out of counters I can recast him.
I know there isn't a ton of options in these colors, but Chishiro's interaction with Persist is a fun thing I think some people are sleeping on.
Cauldron of Souls could be a good way to keep Chishiro and your other non-token creatures alive, but also brings them back modified so the -1/-1 counter almost isn't even a downside.
Love the nod to Princess Mononoke with the spirit boar Kaima
I'm about to play MTG for the first time and starting with EDH. This is the kinda video I've been looking for. I don't have to scratch my head figuring out what to take out and add in. Thank you.
generally speaking when you play a few rounds, maybe 5 or 10, you'll figure out pretty quickly what the deck needs and which cards you don't like. It is nice to have a bunch of recommendations tho
I am really excited for this precon actually.
Give us #nec122
Went for the other one just cause I dont have an veicule's deck.
Even better if it had the Nissa in it #Nec122
I've been seen some videos 'bout this precon and i've seen that wizards said they printed two Mossfire Valley (and that's illegal in commander).
So my concern here is, in the precon we'll get a Nissa (the card number 122 that was deleted in the card image gallery) or we'll get two mossfires and no planeswalker in the set?
So, i love planeswalkers but also love hydras!
So idk if purchase the vehicle precon (supposely with Jace) or get this commander set...
Goblin Razerunners has actually won me some games, especially with doubling counters, or moving all the counters to it (for example with ozolith after a board wipe) it can deal a lot of damage.
Love the set!
always love the upgrade videos
About time cream of the crop got some much needed recognition!
Gonna be puting in all the free equip on etb equipment we’ve been getting. Just put in a dueling rapier, equip it to the 2/2 token and then put at least one counter on said token. A 5/3 for 1 mana should be a little bit fun. Then just all the cheap one and two cost auras that cantrip.
This is my 2nd set, and I actually know what I'm doing this time, super excited to get this deck, not to play it, but there's a couple of the new cards that I want in a different deck. The other precon though I'm super excited to upgrade!
Aw yeah love me some Command Zone
Hey are you gonna upload a video of the upgrades to the other pre con commander deck buckle up???
Here’s some extras I put in mine that work really well, all under $1: Halana and Elaina, Partners; Cytoplast Root-Kin; Ring of Kalonia; Mask of Memory; Vastwood Hydra.
And then for $8.50, Kodama of the West; an INSANE ramp in this deck. 2+Green, Modified creatures have trample, whenever a modified creature you control deals combat damage, you tutor a basic land (ETB Tapped). It’s not the best turn 2-3 ramp, but turn 4+ you just soar away with ramp, and you probably save it until you have a few other modded creatures on the board ready to attack the turn you cast this. This also lets you take out some of the other worse ramp in the deck, and fill it with my cheaper recommendations above.
A few other randoms that work: Cliffhaven Kitesail; Hardened Scales; Druid’s deliverance; Dragonborn Champion; Goblin Anarchomancer. They all kinda do what the deck already does, but just a little bit better.
Hey nice video for this precon! Definitely had me excited to play some Gruul!
I love everybody suggestion but I have one how about putting in all those cheap mana value ench. That you can bounce back your hand make a 2/2 .You do this 2 or 3 times in a turn .My point is this its some thing in your hand you know you can keep making 2/2's with and it is going to be hard to remove(that's without saying counterspell)👍✌️
Ashlen literally always has the best picks! Gunna have to pick up this precon.
Yeah I always grab the deck list when Ashlen puts it together.
How do you feel about emergent sequence. Nice ramp plus a modified creature
Would bestow creatures trigger the snake samurai's ability when cast as Auras?
I could absolutely be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure when Ashlen was talking about the Rancor include, she said "Rancor, a card that we mentioned Auralier" instead of "earlier". 😂 Please tell me I'm not the only one. 🙏
Absolutely. A very pleasing joke that no one took notice of.
I bought a Shuko when the first spoiler got leaked. I‘m happy about that, thanks to The Budget Deck master.
Cheers
I slotted in a kalonian hydra, karns bastion, and an evolution sage
Would Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider be good in this deck? Because I'm thinking about putting that card in this deck.
Does this deck have a hardened scales? Cuz it could really use one.
I'm fascinated by the idea of combat control enchantress with Kaima as commander. If you go way back to find all the low mana value returning/cantrip enchantments and play them it seems like you might only occasionally get attacked by any creatures worth worrying about. IF you can keep Kaima on the board. I have a decklist on moxfieild if anyone is interested.
Show us the list please
I'm surprised nobody mentioned persist synergies. Any counter is a modification: persist's -1/-1 counters count. So Cheshiro will put a +1/+1 counter on the creature, which will remove the -1/-1 counter.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar would be so good in this deck, and the deck will come with a plant token even though none of the cards in the precon make plat tokens, so it would be a really great upgrade.
#nec122
Grumgully the generous would be a good addition too!
Watching this after seeing the controversy over the Nissa thing makes me wonder how/if they'll address it
What did you do against flying creatures? there is nothing to counter or defend against this?
Im ready for both of the precons now after these reviews!
Don't forget #NEC122 ! Great upgrade right there! 👍
Blood forge battle ax that's the card I was talking about
Heck yes, Toggo is gas in this deck
Is noone going to appreciates Ashlens voice? Its so soothing and warm to hear.
I will only refer to Chishiro as Chorizo, the Sausage Blade.
I would definitely add that hydra, Wildwood Scourge, which would have a great synergy with the deck.
I love that hydra. It can grow so quickly, it‘s insane. Add the aura that doubles the counters and you are looking at a monster after e few turns.
Kind regards
How was the mono green "commander" not on the list to remove?
For ramp in this deck, I’m focusing on land auras, since a Wild Growth, Utopia Sprawl or Fertile Ground will ramp as efficiently as land ramp while triggering Cheshiro if he’s already out. It helps keep your ramp cards valuable in the late game. Gonna try Smell Fear as a removal spell with proliferate, might be too clunky but the upside seems good.
Kodama of the West Tree as well
I have a friend that’s been trying to get me to play magic never played would the samurai deck be a good deck to learn with
I love her adds but my take outs might be a little different...
Would love to hear your thoughts on what to take out. :)
@@AshlenRose I'd leave the mana dork in. Take all the board wipes out but the best 2. I also know there's a card that works with the other possible commander, I can't remember it's name but I'd take it out with him.
Also, I'm super stoked to get a response from one of my favorite game knights!
i love the set!
Hey, I'm a little bit of a newer player, in your opinion are most of these new Commanders a 6 or a 7 right out of the box? Or do they need upgrades first?
Personally wouldn't say those new precons are even better than 5 due to a lack of focus on a specific theme. This one is +1 counters, auras & equipments and whatever. With those upgrades you might say its a 6 or better but after all it kind of depends on how you can pilot the deck in my opinion. :)
Oh yeah and welcome to the family :)
Instead of a basic, could I replace a Mossfire with an Evolving Wilds?
Aura-lier, love it
A few cards I really like for this deck: curse of predation, song of freyalise, reins of the vinesteed, mark of fury, crown of flames, whip silk, season of growth, clash of realities, and maybe lifespinner if there's a good target to get
I think Halana and Alena, Partners, could be pretty neat in this deck
This was my plan for the deck as well, I have become quite fond of that crazy duo, for reasons I can't understand...but to find out that just to be LEGAL, I have to change the cards in the deck, I am thinking about going for the other one
Absolutely! I had them on the list originally but ended up going a different route (and there's so many routes to take, it's great).
Why does the deck come with 2 moss fire valleys? I thought you couldn’t play 2 of them in the same commander deck.
I’m gonna be throwing guttural response, pyroblast and red elemental blast in here.
Who runs quality control at Wizards? Nissa, Voice of Zendika!!!!!
What hairbrush with card kingdom?
So a spirit token with menace is modified? And Chishiro can add the counter to it as well?
Unfortunately not. Mance is a keyword that comes along with the token. It is not a modification.
How about Rune of Might and Rune of Speed? Also another great episode.
I have no interest in this type of strategy but I can't help but think this commander was designed well. Seems like just the right power level and you can put your own spin on it.
Post a link to the upgraded list pls
Kaima inThanis the War Weaver deck