The fall and rise of Ferencvaros: Hungarian football's royalty
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- The fall and rise of Ferencvaros: Hungarian football's royalty
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A brief history of Ferencvaros, told by James Montague.
The history of the Hungarian club is winding and absorbing. For a long time the biggest club in the country, but faced Nazi rule, faced bankruptcy, was brought back to life by a Yorkshireman, and is in the midst of an “ultra-nationalist reawakening of Hungarian identity” by current President Victor Orban.
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#Ferencvaros #Ferencvárosi #FTC - Sport
As a hungarian I have to give a massive credit for the pronunciation in this video. I'm very impressed!
As I watched this I was very curious, as a Hungarian, what are your thoughts (and other Hungarian fans) on the government pumping money into the team, basically allowing them to win over the other teams in the league?
@@Alfuxne3749 It's not over other teams, because actually all teams in our top divison are in the hand of Fidesz (Orban's party) members. And it is very bad for football. In fact, only this money keep club football alive. So I'm not supporting any club in Hungary anymore and I'm not alone. Of course we love our national team, but what happened to our clubs is bad...
@@Alfuxne3749 its pretty bad they fckd up the whole competition. Like my favorite club Debreceni VSC had a pretty bad season and got relegated and the team was bought in a week after it by the government. And all in all they pumping the money in a bad way, into foreign players, stadiums(while there is barely any player attending normal matches) while they don't invest in youth or develop managers.
@@Alfuxne3749 there are 12 teams in the top division and 11 is owned by an oligarch or local governments. so almost everyone is getting gov money. but there are 3 teams who recevie more than others, Fradi, Vidi (the two most successful Hungarian teams in European tournaments) and Felcsut (Orbán's village)
@@Alfuxne3749 Import info, Orbans father owns a stonemein, and what do you need to build stadiums? ;)
They're actually to this day a powerhouse in water polo. In fact they won the Champions League last season
isn't water polo a big deal in hungary and FYRs?
I used to be really good at water polo but my horse kept drowning 😢
@@ethanbutler7866 hold up
@@patrickscottwalsh Huge thing in Hungary actually
@@patrickscottwalsh Yup, it's one of the biggest sports there, and in former Yugoslavia as well. Hungary has just won the European championship in February
Must applaud TIFO for their research, not only on the story and the details, but also on the pronounciations of the hungarian words and names.👏🇭🇺
Also a great year for hungarian football. CL for Fradi + qualifying for the Euros for the national team. There is also some promising young talents coming up - most notably Dominik Szoboszlai.
@@almoskovac253 Szoboszlai is not from the Hungarian academies, to be honest. He is trained in Austria, at Red Bull Salzburg. He was sent to Austria by his father. That club has already given some stars to the world, such as Sadio Mané.
Az Üllői út a kedvencem, azt 5ször tekertem vissza :D
@@gergelylazar6647 Yeah, but he is still Hungarian and represents the national team
I realize it is kinda randomly asking but do anyone know of a good website to watch new series online?
The fact that you pronounced the names correctly pleases me so much as a Hungarian.
As a Hungarian, I feel I need to give a massive credit for the amount of information you mentioned in this one single video. You must have dug yourself very deep in this topic, and you have done a great job concerning pronounciation.💪
That MTK team also included Bela Guttemann if I remember correctly. Plus, when I think about Ferevacos, I think about Florian Albert.
you are right! a man of culture
Wow... That's a Hungarian football legend I'd completely forgot about... I've been thinking lately about Puskas, Kocsis, Czibor, Kubala, Hidegkuti... Albert won a Ballon d'Or, one of the finest to ever master the art of football. What a legend. Thanks for reminding me of him. PS hoping but no pressure that Szoboszlai joins these ranks of greats!!!
only hungarian to win a ballon d'or :))
Come to think of it, the Hungarian national team has been playing very well of late.
They qualified for the next euros and qualified in nations league A
1954 could be around sooner than we think...
@@bens4602 nah, we aren't that good, to be honest. We usually mess up things with 1 little decision. And we doesn't have a proper finisher. Only have Szalai who doesn't included in hoffeinheim's squad.
@@Fava_27 Mainz.... 🤣😉
@@bens4602 oh, man. even in the 60's it was one of the best teams, but we Hungarians would be happy if the 70's or 80's would come back! currently we have only a few good players all of them grew up abroad. Ferencváros has 3 Hungarians in the starting 11
I'm hungarian and this is perfect video. Great work Tifo Football :)
Hajrá Fradi! :)
hungary has a new talent called Dominik Szolboszai
would like to see an analysis about that guy
I think rabonaTV did one
@@patrickscottwalsh his video was more about his history
her in tifo i am asking for the quality analysis of his overall abilities
his free kick he scored with hungry was nasty!! top player
There is an article on The Athletic about him.
@@humbertocastaneda5268 he scored more than one, but you might think about the Turkey match
'Make Hungarian Football Great Again' - I never heard this like that, but it truly describes what's happening in Hungary. Thank you for this phrase, and the video, I like it very much.
Sports washing actually paid off for this team
Thank you for this video, and especially for the pronunciation. Hajrá Fradi💚
Waiting for Tifo’s video everyday is the best thing in 2020.
Great content this is! Setting yourselves apart from the competition on football coverage on youtube!!
They should sign Ibrahim Sangare
Everyone should
I remember when Newcastle United played Ferencváros in the UEFA Cup. Never met a fan base like it. Met a fellow (May have past now) who witnessed the golden team and he talked my ear off about how great they were. I was mesmerised. I hope to visit the stadium one day and maybe watch a game
PLEASE do a video on Real Sociedad sometime soon! Loving their youth philosophy. They are a really exciting team to watch
Real Sociedad x Athletic Bilbao improved a lot recently
Can we please get a video on Macedonias qualification into the Euros.
Yess sir and also for Scotland!
@@arunsd2108 why Scotland? Them getting in really isn't all that surprising or interesting
Slavobulgarians*
@@X3rolas1 good one bruvva.
@@kieran7675 It is surprising and interesting because they haven’t qualified for major football tournament since 1998.
If you want to see something interesting, have a look at the goal rate this clubs highest ever goal scorers. Really impressive
Every team has got money from the government, Ferencváros is the most popular team in Hungary by far, so they've got the best sponsorship deals. Their budget is far lower, than any other teams budget in the Champions League, it's not even the biggest in Hungary. The reason why they are here is the amazing work of Serhiy Rebrov! As far as I remember, the fans loved Craig Short, Bobby Davison was way too arrogant, and the fact doesn't help him, that hungarian players who loved Fradi were driven away even if they went to the club for a contract (some were national team players), they loaned some low quality players from Sheffield Utd instead, even if they promised Champions League before.
Who has the biggest budget
@@UpTheOs10 Before the EL, CL succcess Videoton had (all state-owned sponsors, while FTC is mostly sponsored by multinational companies). Obviously Fradi has earned millions of euros in the last two years having success in UEFA competitions.
The worlds most marvellous team. Thank you for the coverage, Tifo. A comparison with Basaksehir is unfair tbh.
it isn't though, the same thing is going on, funds coming in through government investment, tax payer's money, and both are reaching the UCL group stages in a long time. But yeah, Fradi at least has history, and weren't formed 8 years ago. Maybe in a couple of years we will see a video about Puskas Akademia :DD that would be a more appropraite, almost perfect comparison!
It's videos like this that make you want to start a new FM save.
I read a book once about teams behind the iron curtain, the title escapes me though. I remember this team being one of the teams on there. Great video overall.
Orban is not the President of Hungary. The President is a ceremonial position, like the Pres of Germany or Monarch in UK. Orban is prime minister, position identical to that of PM in the UK or Chancellor in Germany - all of whom are heads of executive because their party won the parliamentary election.
Calling a Hungarian team being from "Eastern Europe" hurt. Hungary is almost at the exact centre of Europe.
Switzerland is
@@philip244 Actually Czechia is.
Incredible video
As a Millwall supporter, I remember the only time we qualified for Europe back in 2004, we ended up getting drawn against Ferencvaros and managed to draw the first leg but lost the second. I had no idea they got relegated just two years after that.
I've been to their stadium, been to their museum. All i can say is that their club culture and history is truly magnificent. Their stadium is almost top quality.
Only seeing that he didn't call them "Ferencvárosi" convinced me that this is gonna be a good video
Bobby Davison and his singngs were so bad that they suffer even in the second div...
BOBBY GÓ HÓM
@@soroksarcity FÁK JÚ BOBBY FÁK JOR MÁDÖR
very well made video
Nice content
Nice video. Greetings from Hungary :)
It is a great video, the only false information is what Bobby Davidson said. When the ultras attacked the bus that was after a game when we lost 3-1 against Kecskemét away, not after a win.
I like Tifo football facts are well presented.
You are the best tifo
I am Hungarian and I thank everyone for the wonderful words on their behalf
Shout out to Zyen Jones! 🇯🇲, he's repping for the peach state! 🍑
Can you make the fall and rise of Red Star Belgrade?
Rebrov is a great manager however his career choices have been really bad. He is certainly a better tactician than most of the coaches in europe
Yeah he may go to a top 6 league soon
what do you mean by bad career choices? he is successful. you think he is a great manager. why? because of the success. what happens if he moves to a bigger team where he doesn't get the support from management? he is like Klopp, making good decisions, building uo his reputation, checking every factor. both of them could have gone to better teams but it doesn't mean success
I’d take Rebrov in England at Watford, what’s his style of play?
@@user-rs9py9yr1r I think he means after a good spell at Dynamo Kyiv he went to Saudi pro league for money rather than to a bigger league to further his career in Europe
@@yasinkhalid3703 defensive
Didn't Kubala play for Ferencvaros at some point?
He did. 1945-46, 50 matches 33 goals.
wow Hungarian content :O
Im hungarian and this is a masterpiece
One nitpicky correction. Orbán is a prime minister, not president.
Ferencváros 🇭🇺❤️
go fradi!
Fair play to their ultras too who had it out with millwall hools in 2004 👀
the good old days..i can still rememer that night like it was yesterday..i was there ; )
There were serious clashes in several parts of the city.
Interesting
Hi from hungary!!
Thanks for knocking celtic out of Champion league qualifiers!!
You are welcome :)
😁😁😁
Hol vagytok, Magyarok?🇭🇺
Mindenhol, még Tifonál is!!🇭🇺
SZEVASZTOK!!!
Szevasztok véreim!!!
Pontosan itt
I'm FRADI fan! :)
I lost it at the illuminati symbol at 0:51
CSAK AZ ÚJPEST! NEXT VIDEO ON US PLS! The rivalry with Honvéd and us could have been mentioned but otherwise good video!
Újpest nem Pest, tanyaközpont!
Is Ferencvaros the most popular club in Hungary?
The only team I know in Hungary before Ferencvaros qualified for the Champions League was Videoton.
yes Ferencvaros has the biggest fanbase among hungarians in hungary and outside of hungary
Make Hungarian football great again 😂
Got my hopes up for a fall of Celtic video when I saw the green and white hoops, hint hint.
in a way you were watching a fall of Celtic video, we defeated them 1-2 at the celtic park and they haven't been the same ever since
You should check out Ethnikos Pireaus. Great powerhouse back in the 50's
Anyone know an opposing football club to the Orban regime? Is it Ujpest?
Újpest is the only club in the first division owned by a foreigner (Belgian) but I wouldn't say they are opposing to the regime because they also benefit from the conisderable amount of money channeled to the football by Orbán (tax money, TV rights etc.) Újpest are the historically biggest rivals of Ferencváros.
Orban is a huge Ujpest fan! : )
Mlsz (hungarian football federation) is hating ujpest right now
The difference is there are 2 hungarian players who start. 1 is the keeper.
Puskas played for Honved Kispest, Not Fradi!
Now am feeling bad being a barça fan cuz we beat em :(
Don't feel bad for them, teams expect a tough time when they have been out of the champions league for a long while. Be more concerned about Barca's stuttering domestic campaign. Btw I am a Barca fan
don't be
Don't feel bad, you were (by far) the better team and beat us fair and square!
Europa league would be the perfect place for Fradi and Vidi, but Fradi performed above expectations on the CL qualifiers
Hajrá lilák és csak az Újpest😈😈
They never got their time on the European stage the way say teams like Real Madrid or Ajax did
Why did so many ex-Derby players manage them 😂
at that time the owner was the same of both clubs
Oh damn that's who Millwall played in the Europe Cup qualifyer
The same! The Legendary Green Monsters
You mentioned Orbán Viktor twice in this video and the only hungarian Ballon d'Or winner and Ferencváros legend Albert Flórián zero times. Marvellous job.👏👏👏😂😂😂
amúgy ezen én is meglepődtem. számítottam Albertre, de kihagyta, inkább Bobby Davison meg a többi tiszavirágéletű angol edzőről van szó
@@user-rs9py9yr1r Szép, hogy megemlékeznek rólunk de, hogy ebben is kell lenni "vörös farok"-nak... Persze úgy, hogy a hazai focit csak felszínesen ismerik, az összefüggéseket nem értik. Mindegy, úgy tűnik arrafelé ez a módi...
How about a Rise and Fall of Steaua Bucharest?
Whatever the politics, the ball is round.
Make Hungarian Football Great Again! 🇭🇺
Hajrá Ferencváros! 💚🇭🇺
hey
Nice video.
Greetings from Hungary.🍻🇭🇺
I hope somehow we can get rid of this dictator (Orbán Viktor) very soon...
kubala❤️
To make even more, the owner is a Hungarian of Russian origin, Gabor Kubatov. Kubatov is a Fidesz member and he has a close relationship with Putinist government in Russia, thanks for Kubatov's father root from a Russian family in Karabakh.
Recently, Putin's Russia has encouraged its allied billionaires to take over football clubs. I bet Kubatov, like Abramovich (Chelsea), Samsonenko (Vardar) and Savvidis (PAOK), serve Russia's ambitions. Outside they claim they have personal disputes with Putin but inside they share the same cake.
* Kubatov is not the owner, but the chairman. And he is not of Russian origin, but Bulgarian. The rest is speculation.
@@danielgorog2646 Thanks. But I would be honest, Russian businessmen are now omnipresent in many sport clubs across Europe, they are really freaking me out.
" Kubatov's father root from a Russian family in Karabakh" how can you make that one up im dying :DDDD
@@soroksarcity I read in Russian Wikipedia and clarify some information there. May not be perfect though but I do speak Russian. Anyway I feel both happy and wary for Hungary, as they are our best friends, though.
@Aleks Kevyn Russian source indicated that he is. I speak Russian and I know this well. No way Hungarians surnames have such Russian suffix -ov.
And I don't understand Russian denial obsession. What's next? Occupying 20% of Georgia and Ukraine don't satisfy you? Russia has tried to promote people who support Russian imperialism for Putin's service.
It is a shame that nowadays a way to gain political power and popularity is by investing in football, namely the biggest national clubs. Its nothing new, but its bad that its still quite prevalent
I really can't tolerate this Man City and PSG teams,this is real football teams
I’ve never learned about a greater club to hate than these fellas. WW2 influence and corrupted a lot of Clubs in Europe and hardly anyone was spared. But to kill the coach after he saved people is just pure evil.
yeah you know the club didnt kill Toth, he was killed by the arrow-cross party and the gestapo in cooperation, while Hungary was occupied by the German military
We do not deserve hate. Our coach represented our values when he saved people.
100 million euros of EU funds invested in football stadiums bulit by Orban's cronies, that's why Hungary has the worst healthcare in entire EU
This is absolute bullsh*t! A lot of hospitals and medical facilities were upgraded since Orbán is the prime minister of Hungary
i love the mindset of the people like you..you hate it when they build stadiums,but its okay when he(Orbán) put a billion!!!!!!euro into his childhood mate's pocket...well,good for you! : )
actually having a good and free healthcare system costs much more than 100 million euros. healthcare is a problem everywhere, nurses and doctors are moving to western countries to earn more.
Bobby go home
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State, nationalism, fanaticism and football. Can't lead to nothing good and decent.
Sign Samuel chukwueze
Are you a comedian? 😆
Brooo! We have Franck Boli and Tocmac Nguen! They are way better than Chukwueze
1:23 Investing to football, instead of Schools and Hospitals.
Hungarian football is getting worse, they have one amazing talent and the rest isn't good enough. Ferencvaros has no youth players in the first team and the league has no exciting prospects
FUCK FERENCVÁROS
Never Forget 1976
Pushed team by the goverment right now.
They have gotten lot of public money.
Lot of hungarian people doesn't like Ferencváros becuse of this.
Orbán doesn't give money for every team, he gives (our) money for who he likes.(FTC, Videoton,Puskás)
Today every team are financed by the goverment except Újpest ( The oldest and one of the biggest club in Hungary).
Újpest have an invevstor from belgium
2:56 The ethnicity of the owners seems to puzzle you. What was the ethnicity of Rakozi? Of Gero? Of Bela Kun and
What ethnicity got banned “forever” from Hungary for colluding with Turks to take over Hungary?
What if you understood the circumstances and facts of history and not the narrative?
Ferencváros never was a fascist team. Only the dirty communists said that. Fradi has been and is the team of each social layer in Hungary.