What a Cochlear Implant sounds like

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  • čas přidán 19. 10. 2014
  • Ever wonder what a cochlear implant sounds like? We asked this young lady to answer just that question. The patient wears a cochlear implant on her right ear and has normal hearing in her left. We play the original sentence to her implant and then play edited versions to her normal hearing ear. The match sounds surprisingly close to the original sentence. This research was conducted at the Cochlear Implant Research lab at Arizona State University under the direction of Michael Dorman. Visit: www.asu.edu/clas/shs/cilab/

Komentáře • 793

  • @DJKrowbarKE
    @DJKrowbarKE Před 3 lety +4452

    As an Audio Engineer.... I feel for the younger lady looking for terminology that she has never used before. Thanks for the video.

    • @urphakeandgey6308
      @urphakeandgey6308 Před 2 lety +246

      Yeah, I always find "laymen" descriptions of audio effects very interesting because they immediately say things like "it sounds like it's playing through a wall" when all I hear immediately is "low pass filter." Laymen also confuse reverb and delay a lot. They're both just "echo" to them.

    • @DJKrowbarKE
      @DJKrowbarKE Před 2 lety +1

      @@urphakeandgey6308 I agree with you 100%

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Před rokem +39

      I feel like she's trying to describe phase effects.

    • @c.a.marsupial.1282
      @c.a.marsupial.1282 Před rokem +47

      I was thinking they really need a Audi engineer who could ask the right questions. Do you think you could have understood what she was trying to say. Talking through a brick wall turns out to be muffled in my opinion.

    • @lorenmorgan1931
      @lorenmorgan1931 Před rokem +28

      Yeah I am pretty certain she is asking for a bit crusher to drop it down to 6bits with dither. At least that is what I assume she is looking for.

  • @thompsonmatthew
    @thompsonmatthew Před 3 lety +617

    Sun status
    [] Not finally shining
    [X] Finally shining

  • @dion789
    @dion789 Před 8 lety +2802

    The first one sounded like it belongs in a horror movie.

    • @hayleyscomet3447
      @hayleyscomet3447 Před 6 lety +108

      Dion7 first one scared the shit out of me.

    • @fluteloopsyd
      @fluteloopsyd Před 6 lety +4

      Papyrus Senpai Same!😂😂😂

    • @vlia1918
      @vlia1918 Před 5 lety +15

      I got so scared

    • @colalightyear7859
      @colalightyear7859 Před 4 lety +11

      its the borg, of course its scary

    • @natashawigley5552
      @natashawigley5552 Před 3 lety +5

      If you've ever listened to the narration for The Silence Experiment, it sounded exactly like the mutant voices out of that.

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii Před 6 lety +4218

    I'm super impressed with her ability to describe her own sensory experience. That is such a hard thing to do. As soon as she used the wall analogy, I knew exactly what she meant.

    • @omgtkseth
      @omgtkseth Před 5 lety +38

      I was about to say the opposite. I bet she has no experience in audio editing or music playing. She has no lexicon...

    • @catcat3964
      @catcat3964 Před 5 lety +43

      It was just muffled, that’s all she needed to say.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Před 3 lety +1

      that didn't look hard, look like the test eye doctor do to you to give you glass prescription

    • @nonachyourbusiness1164
      @nonachyourbusiness1164 Před 3 lety +79

      @@omgtkseth No, she has innate ability. That's to me a lot more impressive as she doesn't have the exact words but is still able to describe it

    • @EnriquePage91
      @EnriquePage91 Před 3 lety +11

      Plus she mentions white noise and the final effect has no white noise on it. This is probably a mistake on the person showing the sounds as apparently cochlear implants consist of 12 “channels” (0 or 1 per channel essentially) that allow you to “read” sounds like a computer ( very broad analogy). White noise on the background might sound a lot like the quantization on the auditory frequencies your perceive with an implant (think of a broken radio changing pitch all of a sudden for example, or the “broken toy” analogy many people talk about). IMO she definitely explained herself well. So well in fact, that it was the person playing the audio and playing with the equalizer which did not manage to introduce that “white noise” feel she was talking about. In the end however, she probably got the band pass right and that’s probably why the girl was like “that’s it!”, but it makes no sense that the effect she says is “right” has a flanger on it. This makes no sense as flangers are very slight pitch shifting Audio effects, however when taken to the extreme (not the case here) they might sound a bit robotic (probably why the demonstrator decided to use it as an effect). If she had lowered the bits on the last demo to 12 bits, as in as many channels as the cochlear implant has, she probably would have said it was an even more accurate depiction of it (slightly more robotic, like the feel of a a “lofi” melody).

  • @EmeraldKelsi
    @EmeraldKelsi Před 6 lety +965

    I lost it when she went "NO!" at the beginning lol

  • @ElliLavender
    @ElliLavender Před 6 měsíci +810

    Cochlear implants are an absolutely fascinating piece of technology and this sounds a lot closer to normal human speach than I thought it would

    • @ophello
      @ophello Před 6 měsíci +7

      *speech

    • @WorthlessDeadEnd
      @WorthlessDeadEnd Před 6 měsíci +3

      Lou Ferrigno said it sounded like beeps from a Star Wars movie (I'm assuming he was referring to R2-D2 or BB-8).

    • @barbaravanriemsdijk8440
      @barbaravanriemsdijk8440 Před 6 měsíci +5

      From my own experience it's entirely within the scope of a CI to provide hearing which sounds completely normal.

    • @WLS_Churchill
      @WLS_Churchill Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@WorthlessDeadEnd during the activation...

    • @bio2020
      @bio2020 Před 4 měsíci

      why are they fascinating? it's all existing technology that you are already familiar with in other electronic devices.

  • @nikkinicole4990
    @nikkinicole4990 Před 6 lety +332

    The first one was so damn scary even the girl was like NOO

    • @diplamatikjuan3595
      @diplamatikjuan3595 Před 2 lety +29

      Yeah, if everyone sounded like that to me, I'd live by myself

  • @Artybodydoubling
    @Artybodydoubling Před 7 lety +363

    The sun is finally shining

    • @Xevailo
      @Xevailo Před 6 lety +9

      Nice day for fishing, ain't it?

  • @NoThrottle
    @NoThrottle Před 6 lety +389

    Scishow didn't give us an example so i came here
    edit: People really finding this comment 2 years later so i fixed the typo (cam -> came)
    edit 2: I came across this comment in my notifs 2 years later (at which i said I would put an apostrophe in "didnt")

  • @davemitchell116
    @davemitchell116 Před 8 lety +1428

    Extraordinary! I wonder if somewhere there is a professional audio engineer (or former engineer) who has normal hearing in one ear and an implant in the other. Such a trained technician (if he or she could be found) would give an enormous boost to cochlear research.

    • @ThreeLetters3
      @ThreeLetters3 Před 6 lety +51

      Dave Mitchell probably is and if there isn't, someone could purposely damage their hearing and do that

    • @EmergencyTemporalShift
      @EmergencyTemporalShift Před 6 lety +69

      Nah, you don't NEED dammaged hearing to install the implant.

    • @taz874
      @taz874 Před 6 lety +33

      im sure theres many people who had natural hearing then lost it and now have a CI

    • @xenontesla122
      @xenontesla122 Před 6 lety +124

      MattGaming+ I really doubt that there’s an audio engineer who’s willing to damage their ears just to find out what it sound like. Audio engineers love sound. To have their hearing degraded would be a nightmare.

    • @meowzerus
      @meowzerus Před 6 lety +10

      The biggest struggle is processing the sound in the environment and converting that into signals for the brain to interpret. This needs to exist on your head running off of battery power. Hopefully technology keeps scaling to the point where that isn't an issue anymore.

  • @warmcozy
    @warmcozy Před 8 lety +436

    The final choice is played at 3:55.

    • @LuckyElement7
      @LuckyElement7 Před 6 lety +8

      warmcozy thank you!

    • @300076379
      @300076379 Před 6 lety +3

      Thank you

    • @crixi__
      @crixi__ Před 6 lety +4

      This takes all the fun off it...

    • @justahker3988
      @justahker3988 Před 5 lety +14

      The 's' sounds were totally obliterated. Couldn't make out the phrase until I went back and heard the original.

    • @whiteribbonman1
      @whiteribbonman1 Před 4 lety

      +warmcozy I am SO glad I do NOT read comments first. You take all of the excitement and suspense out of the experience.

  • @MightyElemental
    @MightyElemental Před 6 měsíci +111

    It's incredible these implants exist, but I had no idea how limited the frequency range was

    • @katho8472
      @katho8472 Před 6 měsíci +12

      My thought too! So much high frequency missing. If only one could get it up to 4kHz or so...

    • @handsdowntoo7150
      @handsdowntoo7150 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@katho8472From what i've read about cochlear implants, it IS possible to add more frequencies but due to technology limitations (and the way cochlear implants work) it isnt beneficial for the patient. The implants produce a crude interpretation of human hearing within a very limited range, so adding more frequencies tends to flood the patient with too much noise making it impossible for the implants/brain to interpret sounds as anything coherent.

    • @aishahshamsul8642
      @aishahshamsul8642 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Because each section of the cochlea responds to a specific frequency and the cochlear implant electrodes cannot be fully inserted into the cochlea. Up to 1½ turn instead of 2½.

  • @laurelzimmer6723
    @laurelzimmer6723 Před 6 lety +676

    First time listening, everyone sounded like Donald Duck! After a couple of hours and some program tweaks, my parents started to sound like I remembered. Great moment! It took several months for my brain to adapt and learn to interpret everything that I was hearing, but my family's voices started sounding just like they used to within a few days. I went through a couple of years of frequent reprogramming of my "map", because my hearing changed every few months.

    • @TheAkashicTraveller
      @TheAkashicTraveller Před 6 lety +18

      Control over the processor would be a must have for me if I ever end up deaf and getting one.

    • @namangujarathi2737
      @namangujarathi2737 Před 3 lety +3

      at what age you got the implant?

    • @jbird1012
      @jbird1012 Před 3 lety +42

      That's really all I want. To hear my mom's voice again.

    • @LuckyBadger
      @LuckyBadger Před 2 lety +11

      I know this reply is from 4 years ago, but has the technology improved for you? Can you hear words distinctly? I have progressive hearing loss, and everything sounds muffled to me. With hearing aids, things just sound muffled, but louder. I still can't make out a lot of what people are saying and it's very frustrating. I'm trying to decide what to do next. I'm 56 now. Do you think I'm too old?

    • @fireballxl-5748
      @fireballxl-5748 Před 2 lety +18

      @@LuckyBadger You're definitely not too old. Your hearing loss will progress and (IMO) having it done when you can still hear a little more than a bit will aid in returning to your "normal" hearing more quickly. And you likely should do only one ear and "match" it up with your other as best as you can. Then get the second implant for the other ear and match that to the new implant in opposite ear. Seems a great time to get it done. BUT>>> be sure you want to live with no hearing at all (if you do both ears) when your implants are not turned on and it's at night in your home or apartment. Might be a good idea to have a dog. Anyway, consult a couple good doctors and stay safe.

  • @sesesolomon
    @sesesolomon Před 3 lety +328

    Whos here after watching “sound of metal” with riz ahmed

    • @tompratticus8890
      @tompratticus8890 Před 3 lety

      Me too

    • @TheValCapGroup
      @TheValCapGroup Před 3 lety +26

      this sounds sooo much better then they made it seem like in the film

    • @garrettation
      @garrettation Před 3 lety +14

      @@TheValCapGroup From what I understand, it's different for everyone. I believe many people have to train their brain when they first receive the cochlear implant and it can take quite some time, around a year for some people. So it's very possible someone would experience it how Ruben did. I don't have an implant myself, so this is only what I know from what I've read.

    • @przemyslaw_polak_93
      @przemyslaw_polak_93 Před 3 lety

      Lol me too

    • @jasonbladzinski5336
      @jasonbladzinski5336 Před 3 lety

      Yup, definitely me.

  • @aeon5566
    @aeon5566 Před rokem +489

    So it kind of sounds like a muffled more machinelike voice, but definitely not as robotic as I thought it would. Sounds pretty good to be honest. Wonder how it works with conveying emotion. How it works with pitch and such.

    • @SarafinaSummers
      @SarafinaSummers Před rokem +60

      I want to hear how it sounds with music. I've been told by a user that it sucks for music, that it sounds like electronic noise.

    • @farika_deaf2003
      @farika_deaf2003 Před 9 měsíci +25

      it depends for every deaf person with cochlear implant for me it sounds like the cosest at 3:09 ...

    • @lemonylimey
      @lemonylimey Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@SarafinaSummers Doesn't sound that way at all for me.

    • @cc_snipergirl
      @cc_snipergirl Před 7 měsíci +20

      ​@@SarafinaSummersI think the implants have improved significantly over the last handful of years. Last time I saw one of these videos, the sound was extremely robotic. Closer to dialup noise than the original sound. But that video was several years ago

    • @bryede
      @bryede Před 7 měsíci +9

      Well, we're hearing the processed audio before it gets to the implant, so we can't know how it's actually sounding in the patient's ear.

  • @Alec_Collins78
    @Alec_Collins78 Před 6 lety +328

    So, she's using her "good" ear to tell the other lady what her deaf ear hears when she uses her implant?

    • @tezer2d
      @tezer2d Před 6 lety +25

      read the description guys

    • @Alec_Collins78
      @Alec_Collins78 Před 6 lety +24

      Tesser 4D Read it. Most implants, according to every other example I've heard, sound nowhere near as good as that.

    • @Schule04
      @Schule04 Před 6 lety +44

      Newer implants are apparently a lot better than the 10+ year old simulations you can find online, and the final audio quality depends on the individual.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Před 6 lety +60

      My neice watched this and she was confused. She said the last two clips sound identical. She has a modern cochlear implant, installed last year.

    • @jdt3556
      @jdt3556 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rich1051414 hi! May I ask if can your niece still hear music naturally? Because with hearing aids, pianos, flutes, organs or giitar dont sound natural to me.

  • @MrSir-hk9qc
    @MrSir-hk9qc Před 3 lety +41

    When he said, “The sun is finally shining”,
    **that hit deep**

  • @mondaytuesday1202
    @mondaytuesday1202 Před 6 měsíci +32

    It's sooo hard to describe sounds. She does really well.

  • @NYJYIK
    @NYJYIK Před 4 lety +296

    A lot of misinformed people. The "robot" voice is not permanent and people begin to sound natural as your brain adjusts to the implant and you keep working with your doctor. Im currently going through this and its a long process... BTW that doctor is beautiful.

    • @ciaociaobb
      @ciaociaobb Před 3 lety +7

      So are the people’s voices still the same like before you did the implant ? I’m very nervous and feel really depressed

    • @NYJYIK
      @NYJYIK Před 3 lety +14

      @@ciaociaobb They sound completely normal.

    • @grbradsk
      @grbradsk Před 3 lety +36

      I'd say a complete neural reoganization of the brain takes about 18 months. I got roaring tinnitus about 5 years ago. It was very depressing at first and it absolutely rivited my attention, I could think of nothing else but the constant screech. But I decided to completely ignore it -- no hoping it would get better, no wishing it wasn't there, just complete acceptance/ignoring it. After about 18 months I realized that I mostly wasn't hearing it at all. Sometimes because it wasn't there, but often because I just couldn't pay attention to it -- like the traffic outside or your refrigerator fan. Sure, you could force yourself to hear the traffic outside, but in half a minute, you'll forget and it's gone. I'm guessing that's about the time scale of full auditory cortex reorganization.

    • @georgia673
      @georgia673 Před 3 lety +5

      @@grbradsk That's so interesting. Thanks for sharing

    • @theninja4137
      @theninja4137 Před 2 lety +7

      It also depends a lot from person to person, from what Ive been told
      Some get to the level where it feels almost normal, others can never get to the level where they can understand speech

  • @HobbyOrganist
    @HobbyOrganist Před 7 měsíci +254

    My vet was always very deaf, and it was difficult to communicate with his,and much had to go thru the receptionist or someone else, but then he got the implants and could actually answer the telephone when I called!
    Mom taught sign language to the deaf in the LA school district for over 20 years, I remember she told me how people made assumptions about lip reading that were wrong, basically a person who never had hearing cant possible know what the sounds being mouthed by someone speaking SOUND like, so they can't connect a sound to the way your lips move.

  • @SarafinaSummers
    @SarafinaSummers Před rokem +229

    I used to have a friend who wore these bilaterally. Having somewhat normal hearing and a seizure disorder triggered by sound, I was curious as to how this sounds. This is awesome. Thank you, friend, for showing us how this sounds!

  • @origamiSnow
    @origamiSnow Před 6 lety +349

    This is really cool, like they're working together to paint an image of sound!

  • @shaenj
    @shaenj Před 3 lety +253

    I have one cochlear implant and hoping for another. I went profoundly deaf at 50.
    haha..my daughter cried when I first heard again. It was easer for me being able to hear so long. It's much harder for the First Hearers. They are VERY shocked, some tear it off. But not for long. The implant is still wonderful to me, it has made my life SO much better.

    • @ivyedan7183
      @ivyedan7183 Před 3 měsíci

      I freaked out the first time I heard...there were so many times I was terrified. I still get scared of lots of sounds even now.😊

  • @hicknopunk
    @hicknopunk Před 4 lety +49

    Finally, a non clickbait on this!

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 Před rokem +27

    I'm glad I wasn't having to make those choices. She did really well at describing her perceptions.

  • @Partyfreaker
    @Partyfreaker Před 6 měsíci +261

    I have a theory about why she perceives edited sounds with a lower frequency as normal. When someone becomes deaf, higher-pitched sounds are often the first to diminish. To compensate for this hearing loss, the brain becomes more sensitive to high-pitched sounds. In her case, being completely deaf in one ear and using an implant to hear again, the brain is not accustomed to processing sound. As a result, high-pitched sounds might be distorted. When the specialist removed the higher frequencies from the audio test, her brain normalized the sound because it was more sensitive to high-pitched frequencies, making the sound appear to be at a normal frequency for her.

    • @NiliMoto
      @NiliMoto Před 6 měsíci +37

      i believe you misunderstood what they were doing here.
      the edited sounds do not sound normal to her. they are playing the different edited sounds so she can compare the sound coming from her implant to something. whenever we hear the original sound, it is played through her implant and she hears it the way we hear the last edited version hear. this is due to the limitations of the implant and has nothing to do with the brain adjusting to anything.

    • @Humungojerry
      @Humungojerry Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@NiliMotoyeah. it’s an interesting theory but i would not expect her brian processing to have changed much since she can still hear in one ear.

    • @olivier0092
      @olivier0092 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@NiliMotoso the last edited sound we hear is what she hears through her implant?

    • @norkshit
      @norkshit Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@olivier0092 Yep, it’s audible but very low quality, and without the implant she wouldn’t hear anything. the fact that such technology exists at all is a miracle though. with the advent of better technology over the next century such implants will improve to the point that they match or even exceed the natural human counterparts. truly exciting times we live in!

    • @jerryboics9550
      @jerryboics9550 Před 6 měsíci +1

      She described one time as like a robot. Ummm how does she...

  • @KurtBob
    @KurtBob Před 6 lety +118

    I hope she grows up to be an Audiologist. The technology that will be at her fingertips in her college years will be amazing, and to have one good ear and one cochlear implant, she could really make it perfect!!!! How cool is that technology, thank you for sharing your process! that was really cool!

  • @barbaravanriemsdijk8440
    @barbaravanriemsdijk8440 Před 2 lety +381

    To anyone contemplating a CI I can affirm it’s entirely possible to hear virtually normally with a CI and the sound will sound exactly as it should.
    However, it is NOT an instant fix. What you see and hear in a lot of these videos are depictions of early mappings (tuning sessions) or initial activation. When one gets a CI there is a period of rehabilitation where the brain lays down new neural connections. A CI offers an entirely new way of hearing and it is necessary to provide the brain with the tools in order to do it’s job. Expecting instant results will only end in disappointment. The adjustment time varies but if someone is prepared to put in the work they should reap the rewards for the most part.

    • @leifwallin6024
      @leifwallin6024 Před rokem +12

      How is it for listening to music?
      Thanks

    • @Aaron-xs5bv
      @Aaron-xs5bv Před rokem +2

      How long did it take you to adjust?

    • @lebenmitci
      @lebenmitci Před rokem +19

      @@leifwallin6024 I've got 2 MED-EL Synchrony 2 implants and I *love* listening music, it's amazing!

    • @lebenmitci
      @lebenmitci Před rokem +6

      @@Aaron-xs5bv maybe 1...24 months, the longer you practice, the better the result.

    • @meaton3805
      @meaton3805 Před 6 měsíci

      I bet the adjustment period is different for different people. My uneducated guess would be that those who were hearing and/or recently had hearing loss adjust quicker than those who have never been hearing or who lost their hearing many years ago.

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 Před 2 lety +385

    This was fantastic! Matching the hearing right and left to sound with the exact frequency response in the ear through to the brain. These implants are a great blessing. Thank God for them and the researchers and the doctors, nurses, etc.

    • @FirstLastOne
      @FirstLastOne Před 9 měsíci +35

      God had nothing to do with it. Nothing can NOT educate.

    • @Divine_R
      @Divine_R Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@FirstLastOneCringe materialist🤣

    • @DonnaChamberson
      @DonnaChamberson Před 7 měsíci +5

      Thank God for Jesus.

    • @yanikb.1312
      @yanikb.1312 Před 6 měsíci

      god made her deaf

    • @Jacob-gj8hz
      @Jacob-gj8hz Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@DonnaChambersonAmen. I don't understand the hate.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead Před 3 lety +22

    The cochlea must be very sensitive trebly because the one she chose has the highs and low frequencies virtually removed. They really should allow the recipient of the implant to play with a simple knob or slide controlled PARAMETRIC EQ until it sounds right.

    • @DiThi
      @DiThi Před 6 měsíci

      It's not just parametric EQ, it should also have something to displace/stretch frequencies up and down. I guess they already do something like that in the set up stage. Also the limitation may also be caused by the hardware which may be removing those frequencies on purpose because they're just noise when misinterpreted as other frequencies.

  • @DaBigBase
    @DaBigBase Před 6 lety +224

    Praise the sun!

  • @butth3ad
    @butth3ad Před 5 měsíci +2

    i love the technicians patience and adaptability

  • @StefenHudson
    @StefenHudson Před rokem +97

    When my implant was first switched on, voices sounded super high-pitched and tiny. The sound effect of broken glass had a sort of watery effect to it. Music sounded really interesting. As time went on, voices had a sort of slight double pitch quality to them. Eventually things started sounding normal.
    Also, what in the world do you do to get the effect for the first one? That was freaky.

    • @Reubachi
      @Reubachi Před rokem +5

      Literally the borg from Star Trek sound 😂

    • @Thurston86
      @Thurston86 Před rokem +4

      @@ReubachiResistance is futile.

    • @graysonrogers-barnes6302
      @graysonrogers-barnes6302 Před 7 měsíci

      That's honestly so cool.

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh Před 6 měsíci

      Some kind of modulation, maybe by noise?

    • @Bapuji42
      @Bapuji42 Před 6 měsíci

      I'm fascinated by this. Had you been able to hear previously? If not, how did you have any reference point to compare what you were hearing to? e.g. broken glass, etc.

  • @daftoptimist
    @daftoptimist Před 7 lety +24

    Ooo, this is interesting! I'd like to see the same experiment done with participation from people having various experience levels with their CIs, if there as more single-sided people who can use the unedited audio as a control.

  • @terabit.
    @terabit. Před rokem

    This experiment IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE towards that direction!

  • @bobdawkins7473
    @bobdawkins7473 Před 2 lety +34

    Not quite at the Cochlear stage yet, but maybe in years to come I'll need some extra support too. Hearing aids get me through most situations enough for now. Looks very successful from what I've witnessed with others. On a side note this hearing specialist is Godly!

  • @PufflePie
    @PufflePie Před 7 měsíci +3

    my sister always described it as it being like you’re underwater, it seems like she’s describing something similar here

  • @bradrobinson7960
    @bradrobinson7960 Před 7 lety +37

    The "Vocoder 1" voice sounds like the "Hive Mind" voice of the Borg on "Star Trek".

  • @DelusiUK
    @DelusiUK Před 5 lety +10

    Good stuff. It's hard to describe sound. This is the right way to do this though. Creating sound examples as they are described.

  • @secondlifearound
    @secondlifearound Před rokem +42

    I think it might’ve helped if someone could have explained to her how high and low pitch works. Because it seemed at times that what she was trying to describe, was actually wanting the voice to be in a lower tone, which is maybe what she meant by asking for more white noise to be added. Just an idea.

  • @GrandmaLoves2Scuba
    @GrandmaLoves2Scuba Před 6 měsíci

    Curiosity satisfied, so thank you so much for posting this!

  • @Zerbey
    @Zerbey Před 6 měsíci +1

    Amazing how far these newer cochlear implants have come.

  • @leacnnmn
    @leacnnmn Před 6 měsíci +1

    My grandma has a cochlear implant, and I've always wondered what we sound like to her. So thank you for this video :)

  • @optimus3802
    @optimus3802 Před 6 lety +3

    Great video thanks. Cochlear implants are truly amazing!

  • @user-ll4on9my7h
    @user-ll4on9my7h Před 6 měsíci +9

    A cochlear implant receives sound from the outside environment, processes it, and sends small electric currents near the auditory nerve. These electric currents activate the nerve, which then sends a signal to the brain. The brain learns to recognize this signal and the person experiences this as "hearing".
    This is just amazing to me. I used to think it was like a hearing aid but really this is essentially using a program to interface with your auditory nerve through electrical impulses which your brain then processes into sound...
    Which is just amazing.
    Now I am wondering how calibration is done and how the received audio is manipulated and how the nerve is eventually artificially stimulated. I thought the field of bio-electrical engineering is fascinating as it essentially combines two very difficult fields into one. I wonder how many double PhD's worked on the development of this device.
    Side note I can only imagine how it affects your overall balance when your ears do not really hear the same. After getting one of these implants is balance affected in patients? or is your balance entirely reliant on other components of the ear unrelated to hearing?

    • @antonliakhovitch8306
      @antonliakhovitch8306 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I can answer the last one (because I googled it, but also I know which terms to look up and not everyone does)
      The vestibular system (which provides balance) uses the same type of sensor cells that the auditory system does, so it's pretty common for people who are deaf from birth to also have balance problems.
      However, those sensors are physically located in a different place from where the hearing happens, so a cochlear implant generally won't affect them.

  • @RyanLye1975
    @RyanLye1975 Před 2 lety +5

    The modern multi-channel cochlear implant was independently developed and commercialized by two separate teams-one led by Graeme Clark in Australia and another by Ingeborg Hochmair and her future husband, Erwin Hochmair in Austria, with the Hochmairs' device first implanted in a person in December 1977 and Clark's in August 1978.[17]

  • @robertbolding4182
    @robertbolding4182 Před 2 lety +4

    the patient should have slider controls. to select frequency ranges and volume

  • @CypiXmusic
    @CypiXmusic Před 7 měsíci +1

    Fascinating insight. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @HoldandModify
    @HoldandModify Před 3 lety +24

    Amazing and I can only imagine what another 20 years of development will bring!

  • @luiginotcool
    @luiginotcool Před 7 měsíci +1

    This would be so much better if the woman knew what she was doing, I think she was just playing a list of pre-made audio clips in order, not actually trying to replicate what the girl was describing

  • @Jeroen74
    @Jeroen74 Před 6 měsíci

    My 17 yo daughter has had bilateral CIs since she was three when she lost all her hearing due to pneumococcal meningitis. She essentially learnt to speak with them and speaks completely normally. She can even enjoy music with them which I never expected she would. When paired to her iPhone they basically become the ultimate noise-canceling headphones. It's amazing technology, but it still shows its weakness in more noisy situations like classrooms. She still uses lip-reading to support her hearing.

  • @jopar3292
    @jopar3292 Před 6 lety +9

    Holy Moly, are those Sennheiser HD 540 headphones hanging up on the wall? Sorry for being off topic but to see one of those headphones in a place like the CIRL is VERY impressive. For the 99.9% of folks who wont know they are flagship headphones from 1980's and are one of the finest headphones ever made!! Sorry, its just super rare to see a pair!

  • @khall3353
    @khall3353 Před 7 měsíci

    I love that Audacity is being used.

  • @csp405
    @csp405 Před 2 lety +3

    The one before the last and the one at 1:10 sounded exactly right the original, and she said that the previous one at 0:52 sounded closer while it was way off low and muffled.

  • @happypiano4810
    @happypiano4810 Před 3 lety +4

    As I had already been told. It does sound like modified hearing loss.

  • @timr.8812
    @timr.8812 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This is so interesting! On the one side we get to know what it sounds like to her and on the other side the engineers might actually be able, to improve the sound from tests like this one.

  • @flybeep1661
    @flybeep1661 Před 2 lety +5

    Basically it seems like higher frequencies are lowered (by a lot) and only the lower frequencies remain. It's a bit strange because at the beginning it went the opposite direction with more emphasis on the higher frequencies (more treble) and less lower frequencies. But when she mentioned it sounded "muffled" then I immediately thought cut out the high frequencies, that's what she means.

  • @spuriouseffect
    @spuriouseffect Před 2 lety +28

    I was expecting something more robotic like some of the other examples. That sounds so much like normal hearing, only a little muffled. Wow!

  • @bobb7918
    @bobb7918 Před 5 měsíci

    This was great I have mono hearing and it sounds pretty close to natural hearing except muffled. I never knew that as I have never tried anything to hear with my deaf ear.

  • @harleyb-ham266
    @harleyb-ham266 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is like the TV commercials that try and show you the better resolution on a new TV. You can't see the new resolution on your old TV and we can't hear what's in her head.

  • @neriksen
    @neriksen Před 5 měsíci

    The operator has the most magnificent nature. She has definitely found her vocation.

  • @lindagirl1140
    @lindagirl1140 Před rokem +3

    The last one sounded muffled to me. Some sounded surprisingly good!

  • @M_IAWIA
    @M_IAWIA Před 6 měsíci +1

    It kinda sounds like someone is talking on the other side of a pillow

  • @stebolavirus
    @stebolavirus Před 6 měsíci

    Fascinating to hear what it's like to hear through a cochlear implant. Not easy and I have a lot more respect for anyone attempting to communicate with me when I probably sound like I'm half under water...

  • @elenavazquez9887
    @elenavazquez9887 Před 3 lety

    This is super cool! Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @megansmedia9034
    @megansmedia9034 Před 3 lety +11

    I'm supposed to get an implant. I'm more than terrified.. Lost hearing in my right ear at 28.5 years old due to unknown causes I got sensorineural hearing loss, just in the blink o an eye, I lost hearing in that ear. Thank God I have one left but I worry every day about losing that too, which is the only reason I'm considering the implant. She is a tough young lady even to go through the procedure!

  • @DigitalAndInnovation
    @DigitalAndInnovation Před rokem +3

    Alright- that answers a question I have had for years... not what does it specifically sound like- no no no... I was always wondering how the heck we "could ever know." Kind of straightforward of a test scenario- but really cool to see it all play out.

  • @Jeeptalkshow
    @Jeeptalkshow Před 7 měsíci

    That's a lot better than I thought it was.

  • @user-gc4oz5og3j
    @user-gc4oz5og3j Před 7 lety +50

    It sounds like people talking in underwater, I deaf left ear in two months ago, after the treatment or severe deafness, know that sound, cochlear implants is too make me sad

    • @TheAkashicTraveller
      @TheAkashicTraveller Před 6 lety +16

      I hope for your sake that you just put that through google translate.

    • @haleymcdaniels4911
      @haleymcdaniels4911 Před 6 lety +2

      I was born i am daef

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Před 6 lety +7

      I am not sure if I understand, but you shouldn't be sad. Even if it sounds like you are hearing underwater, that is much better than not hearing at all. You should be happy.

    • @beesokay
      @beesokay Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheAkashicTraveller ASL is a different language from english. It has different grammar and sentance structure, so if OP is deaf, then that's probably why the grammer and wording seems wrong to you

    • @beesokay
      @beesokay Před 3 lety +8

      @@rich1051414 also that's an incredibly ignorant thing to say. Many deaf and HOH people are perfectly happy not hearing, and dont want to hear. The deaf community is an actual community with it's own culture, and many deaf people dont consider themselves to be disabled. Also, the sound from CI's can be painful to some people, and often hearing something unpleasant, painful, or robotic can be worse than not hearing.

  • @Nabium
    @Nabium Před 6 lety +39

    ah, that's actually closer than I thought.
    any chance they'll be able to tune future implants to make it match perfectly?

    • @Anastas1786
      @Anastas1786 Před 6 lety +7

      I'm sure there are always people working on it.

    • @Sarah_375
      @Sarah_375 Před 4 lety +2

      Maybe some day

    • @nam3ey
      @nam3ey Před 4 lety +3

      They did I got mine if sounds just like normal

    • @FckPooTN
      @FckPooTN Před 4 lety +6

      google "optogenetic cochlear implant" or "hearing with light cochlear"
      With that methode they can use 100 channels instead of just 12.
      But sadly we have to wait around 10 years.
      www.auditory-neuroscience.uni-goettingen.de/hearing_the_light_EN.html
      czcams.com/video/H81pFgTh9y0/video.html

    • @LouSaydus
      @LouSaydus Před 2 lety

      Yes, current implants only use about 12 channels. It seems each channel is able to reproduce about 66Hz~ of sound range. Where normal human hearing is about 20-20,000 Hz, this implant is only able to cover 800Hz of range. We would need about 303 channels to properly emulate "normal" hearing.

  • @joeserrenti9857
    @joeserrenti9857 Před 3 lety +79

    It's amazing how the implant interacts with the brain for both sides to equal out to normal.
    There must be lots of higher frequency boost from the implant.
    Her choice indicated what would seem a large amount of higher frequency roll off to equal the Original...
    Also the flanging effect being added is interesting..... Rather than the totally clear original, apparently the twirling flange adds maybe some kind of more natural inflection making words more understandable.
    Even more interesting is no 2 people will hear that the same way through the implant.
    It's how the brain is translating that signal .
    All I can say is ...... Very Cool !!! 😁

    • @SimonsBand1
      @SimonsBand1 Před 2 lety +4

      i think it's the other way round. The high frequency roll off to match the other means she's hearing the muffled form, and the reason the original sounds the same is that the originals highs aren't being picked up. She's not hearing the original, she's hearing the muffled sound, which means the cochlear implant would need to boost a lot of highs to get it closet, but then if it were doing that, we would hear that in the muffled version, it would be less muffled as she would detect the higher frequencies

    • @joeserrenti9857
      @joeserrenti9857 Před 2 lety

      @@SimonsBand1 OK..... That would make sense , because she hears it in reverse of what we do .... ! Interesting as all hell ..... Amazing how the tech in this field is moving steadily forward ....

    • @antonliakhovitch8306
      @antonliakhovitch8306 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@joeserrenti9857I think you misunderstood what's happening.
      She's listening to the original sound through the implant, and then she's hearing the modified sound through her good ear. She's then telling us whether the modified sound matches what she's hearing through the implant.
      Thus, the modified sound at the end is actually pretty close to what she experiences with the implant.

  • @Lolimaster
    @Lolimaster Před 6 lety

    Supposedly changing the use of channel for tiny lasers will improve this aids a lot, like going from a single core 2Ghz to an AMD Threadripper 16c/32t @3.5Ghz

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh Před 7 lety +4

    The end result is very good. The slight muffling, in this case, seems pretty minor. "The sun is finally shining."

  • @behindcloseddoorsministries

    Thank you for sharing ❤my daughter has bilateral implants but can't describe the sound very well. I've heard we sound like Donald Duck not sure if that's true or not. I hope it's more of the muffled ad sound that this young lady described, this made my day!😊 I also have a situation where she had her left one changed just last month from the Nucleus 5 which she got when she read 1 to a Nucleus 7 (because the old one failed) now that she is 12 and her right ear has the Nucleus 6 which she got when she was 4. She is sad because she doesn't like the sound of it after getting activated and she said that I sound very strange and different so keep us in your prayers that things get better please and thanks!🌹

    • @beepbopboop7727
      @beepbopboop7727 Před 2 lety

      Why wouldnt you believe her?

    • @behindcloseddoorsministries
      @behindcloseddoorsministries Před 2 lety

      @@beepbopboop7727 I’m sorry I’m not sure what you mean?

    • @shepaaaarrrrrd
      @shepaaaarrrrrd Před 2 lety +2

      I assume her hearing with the N7 has improved by now, yes?

    • @kaylee1769
      @kaylee1769 Před rokem +1

      @@beepbopboop7727 what do you mean? Her daughter is deaf, so she wouldn’t really know the difference between how her parents voice and Donald Duck.

    • @JessieBanana
      @JessieBanana Před rokem +4

      @@beepbopboop7727 It’s not about not believing her. She’s hoping that she’s not making the correct comparison, or that it means something different, because Donald Duck to a hearing person is quite a grating sound. The character is meant to be a little ridiculous and annoying. Most parents wouldn’t want that to be the voice their child hears every time they communicate with them.

  • @DKomnicide
    @DKomnicide Před 8 lety

    That's quite impressive I must say

  • @GlorifiedGremlin
    @GlorifiedGremlin Před 6 měsíci +2

    So its sorta like you've got pillows on your ears lol

  • @mindsstalker
    @mindsstalker Před 7 měsíci

    "a demented robot" 🤣
    I wouldn't have been able to describe it

  • @whiteribbonman1
    @whiteribbonman1 Před 4 lety

    Watching this was amazing!

  • @Lisa-qt4hh
    @Lisa-qt4hh Před 2 lety +3

    Really interesting! I wonder what music sounds like through the Cochlear implant

  • @ultimobile
    @ultimobile Před 6 měsíci

    good work - thanks for that !

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials Před 3 lety +31

    Well, that’s interesting... as someone currently implanted in both ears (due to congenital deafness), the one before last sounds close to the original (I hear a subtle difference though and isn’t the best one), but the final one is ironically the worst of the pack! I guess it depends on the patient and the circumstances...

    • @csp405
      @csp405 Před 2 lety +6

      To me too the one before the last and the one at 1:10 sounded exactly right the original, and she said that the previous one at 0:52 sounded closer while it was way off low and muffled

    • @SeedOfEulogy
      @SeedOfEulogy Před rokem +4

      I had the same thought, the one that was second-to-last sounded closest to "correct" to my ears, apart from some phasing. By correct, I mean closest to the original. Which is not necessarily the goal here; if her hearing is calibrated toward the lower end of the spectrum it makes sense to roll off higher frequencies to increase intelligibility for her. But from the perspective of the potential of the technology to accurately reproduce sound, this video fascinates me. I always thought CIs did not offer a full range of hearing and had aliasing and other weird artifacts. If the sound in this video is what someone hears through one, then the others I've heard in the past must have been calibrated way wrong. Which is actually not that surprising if the person has no frame of reference for what sound should sound like! Now I wonder how well it does with music or ambient noise.

    • @13_cmi
      @13_cmi Před 7 měsíci +1

      I’m not at all deaf but currently have horrible squealing and bells in my ears. Ears are just not made right. I need to have a chat with the guy who came up with ears.

    • @13_cmi
      @13_cmi Před 7 měsíci +1

      So 200 3000 with the crazy flanger is the best one for you? Odd that they use flanger for this stuff. I thought it was just for guitar.

    • @kamiyama-chairdesklamp
      @kamiyama-chairdesklamp Před 6 měsíci

      I don't even have a hearing aid because I can't afford them, and I'm at least currently not officially deaf, just hard of hearing. I also thought the second to last was best, except yeah, I can also hear the lo-pass FX, only in extra sybillance. (The "s" sounds--and they have a dance music sound because yeah, lo-pass filter, but other than that, it sounds like a perfect match to me, too!

  • @jhonm6347
    @jhonm6347 Před 6 měsíci

    that's a very cool process, I loved it

  • @Corqii
    @Corqii Před 5 měsíci

    My dad's stepdad and my grandfather was born partially deaf in his right ear and fully deaf in his left (I think, I don't know the specifics but thats what I remember being told.), I've always wondered what his hearing aids sound like to him. His name is Grandpa John and he's really awesome, we visited him this summer with our puppy and he LOVES her, it was really nice, she ate his doorframe.
    My uncle hosted a party at his house and he lost his hearing aid in the paper towel cardboard tube *while* it was on the stand, couldnt find it for days, he found it right before the party.
    Also, went out to eat while he stayed back at the house with the dog, he fell asleep on the couch watching tv with her after doing some stuff around the house. We got locked out and my dad had to climb the roof and go in through the window to get back in. He'd lost his hearing aid again and I was the only one that could hear it ringing, I went into the room I was staying in and moved my blanket and got jumpscared by it. My mom always finds it impressive how well he can read lips, hes around 60-70 and didn't have hearing aids as a kid. I can only imagine how difficult life must of been until he'd finally purchased hearing aids.

  • @relo999
    @relo999 Před 5 měsíci

    Every time I hear about Cochlear Implants it reminds me of this song by Dual Core, a rap about the life of a fan that was born deaf and how technology has changed her life for the better and thanking her for being a fan of his. (for anyone interested it's "Painting Pictures")

  • @danbarb9728
    @danbarb9728 Před 3 lety

    So the muffled last sound is what people with cochlear impants would hear when listening to the original sound file "the sun is finally shining"? It sounds like when you listen to music on a radio with the "highs" tuned completely down.

  • @N3ASL8EN
    @N3ASL8EN Před 5 měsíci

    I am single sided cochlear implanted too. had it since 18 months old. I am completely deaf in both ears. her perception is very much similar to me I think, it is a little more muffled than mine. I'd say mine matched around 3:37 instead but again that's really close. very cool.

  • @shelby3822
    @shelby3822 Před 3 lety +10

    Sound of Metal sent me hear

  • @kyledbryant
    @kyledbryant Před rokem +1

    One thing is for sure....The Sun is Finally Shining. And so is her smile.

  • @ihatelittletitties
    @ihatelittletitties Před rokem +1

    The first one was just Megatron trolling around.

  • @robroby10
    @robroby10 Před 3 měsíci

    Very neat.. hope to have a person this nice to work with me on mapping

  • @gameeverything816
    @gameeverything816 Před 6 měsíci

    At least we now know that the sun is finally shining! That's a relief 😅

  • @zacworld2061
    @zacworld2061 Před 6 dny

    Wow. That last sample towards the end of the video that she said was it sounded almost impossible to discern the words. I guess I had hoped a cochlear implant would be more clear than that.

  • @anitaanil6333
    @anitaanil6333 Před rokem

    This was so interesting👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @sorbecik6703
    @sorbecik6703 Před 6 lety +10

    I also have one side deafness and it sounds totaly different to me. It's more natural.

    • @easydoz1
      @easydoz1 Před 6 lety +5

      Depends on your age and when/if you lost your hearing and if you like mayo or mustard...

    • @matasu00
      @matasu00 Před 6 lety

      Werczita which device did you go with?

  • @nuggetnougat
    @nuggetnougat Před 3 lety

    she said it sounded like a demented robot voice, but the one she chose just sounded muffled. It makes sense since she's still getting the cochlear implant sound over the audio

    • @andromeda8rose
      @andromeda8rose Před 3 lety +4

      She was choosing the one that sounded closest to what she hears through the cochlear implant

    • @andromeda8rose
      @andromeda8rose Před 3 lety +3

      When she said it sounds like a demented robot she was talking about that specific effect that the audio engineer was playing at the time, not what she hears normally

  • @JasonEllingsworth
    @JasonEllingsworth Před 2 lety +6

    If there is one thing I hope to see before I pass on (in hopefully at least 40 years) is for technology to be able to mostly restore sight, speech, hearing, and the ability to not only restore missing limbs, but "feel" through them as if it was your real appendage. Well that, and for our world governments to allow us to cure cancer.

    • @carpetbeetle8349
      @carpetbeetle8349 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well, we're pretty on-track for being able to grow entire new body parts.
      De/Recellularizing scaffolds is the main part, we just need to get better at it.
      We might live to see rejected organ transplants become a thing of the past if all goes well.

  • @joseonwalking8666
    @joseonwalking8666 Před 2 lety +2

    Some day she may be able to develop tech to make cochlear implants sound more and more like how people without hearing issues hear the world.

  • @feuermurmel
    @feuermurmel Před 4 měsíci

    I'm surprised that you didn't let the patient fiddle with the controls of the audio editing software, with your help.

  • @jan_phd
    @jan_phd Před 3 lety

    Low pass centered at about 1kHz needed, then run it through a top hat 20Khz +8db

  • @potatoeoverlord9430
    @potatoeoverlord9430 Před 5 měsíci

    I always assumed they were worse than this from hearing about them, but the sound is quite close to the original.