Very direct and informative. Straight to the point with vital information such as socket size making this task a quick one for anyone watching. Nicely done, thank you
I was a ford tech for a while. You are correct on checking the fluid level. Yes it's supposed to be between 206-215 degrees. However you can check it cold. Engine must still be running. On the numbered dipstick that you had. Number 6 is full hot. However if your doing a cold check (with engine running) the fluid level should be one number below. Little tips we learned in transmission class. The fluid expands when hot. This keeps you from burning yourself. If your dipstick has the "3 blocks" it should be 1 block below the hot full one. And the single block or hash mark it would be just below that. Hope that helps.
@@mr.commander3947 if it’s at 6 when it’s up to temp I’d say it’s still in spec. You could add a little if you want to put it in the middle. Maybe a third of a quart or so.
Or like, if your trans starts acting up and you don’t have tools with you? And could just be fluid, but Ford wants to make sure people go to them to get trans fluid 🤬
If you pull a couple quarts out with a suction gun and then replace the exact same amount with new fluid , to me that would be perfect way of measurement and if you do it often that I would think would be very beneficial to the transmission
This is unbelievable. Ford designs a fluid check stick that puts it's customers in danger of burns, simply to CHECK the quantity ??? How has Ford not been sued time and time again ?? In today's "safety is number one" environment, this is incredible.
I've got a dip stick with A & B on it and I've got some info from a Mustang forum saying the level when hot should be in A your the second person i've found to say it should be in B when hot. I'm talking about a Mustang so is that the diffrence, do you know. Great video your a blessing.
Hey guys I have a 2018 Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost and I’m wondering how often I should get the transmission fluid replaced or flushed? I seem to be getting different answers from different sources but my owner’s manual says not until 240,000 kms. Some say online between 30K - 60K miles. I’m already at 140,000 km’s and I have been experiencing some jerking and surging behaviour when my truck shifts especially around the 4th gear since it hit the 90,000 km mark.
Very well done and informative! On my 2018 with a 140000 miles I got the see owner's manual light with the wrench? If after I parked the truck and started driving it again the light disappeared and has not come back. I wonder could my transmission fluid ne low? It's it dries and performs great. Was curious if low fluid could make that light come on? Thanks for any input anyone!
Ok so f150 2018 5.0 10R80...new trans and checked fluid cold and its halfway mark on dipstick. My throughts are it should be close to the bottom when cold. Perhaos they overfilled it when installing ?how critical is it for me to suck out some fluid right away ?
I have a 2020 Ford Transit 3.5l Ecoboost with the 10 speed. I read the manual and all it said was to bring it in to the dealer to get it check. Where can I find the information to check and service the transmission?
The 2020 Transit uses the same style of indicator / dipstick shown in the video. It’s the same procedure except the correct fluid level should be between the 4 and 5.
Thanks for the video it’s very helpful! All these rude comments are petty In reality most transmissions don’t have to be checked constantly unless there’s a leak or something I usually check ours at oil changes no big deal if you’re under there already anyway !
And you somehow think this is easier to check than a damn dipstick? I check mine at least 3 times between oil changes. Overkill, maybe but it only takes a few seconds to check versus this suck ass way of going about it. Thanks for nothing ford, I knew I should have bought a dodge.. the next one won’t be a ford, that’s a guarantee
@@paulhunter9613 nobody said it was easier and it’s been my experience you can’t keep a transmission operating in a dodge long enough to have to check the fluid between oil changes 😂 They’re both still better than #Shovrolets!
@@paulhunter9613 You do realize the Zf 8spd automatic which is in all the Ram 1/2 ton trucks has no dipstick at all right and is a huge PITA to to service.
Hello! great Video, do you know how many quarts of Mercon ULV will be needed for a drain and fill on this transmission? I’m planing to change the filter too, but I know it won’t take 13 quarts. Thank you!
6 on initial fill after changing fluid and filter. Start it. Shift through gears. Then go back under and check should be about 7 or 7.5. 12.8 is total fill as in a rebuild and such.
2023 Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost here that I believe the fluids were not filled properly at the factory. Is the dipstick located in the same spot as in the vid? How to read the dipstick markings if so/what type? Where can I add more tranmission fluid, the same hole? How in the world is that possible?
I believe it has a fill plug on the side where you check it or add fluid. Similar to a manual transmission. If I remember correctly it’s on the drivers side towards the rear of the transmission.
I changed the transmission fluid and filter. I drained approximately 6 quarts of fluid out. I put in 6 and checked the level. Not touching. I added a quart still not touching. Added the 8th quart and still nothing. Any idea of what’s going on? No leaks. Everything looks good. I drove it and it shifted into 9th gear during test drive. Full operating temp and won’t touch dip stick?
Hi there !!!! I hope you help me with this. Lincoln Navigator L 2019 dipstick with numbers, in what number should be when are hot??? I will appreciate your help for this. Blessings!!!
@@CarShopTalk Many many thanks! I just checked on Friday and it was between 3 and 4. I think maybe is the reason of some erratic gear changes and some hard shifts as well. I’ll definitely take care that on this week. I will let you know. Blessings
Nope. There are some aftermarket places that will sell you a kit to do this but not from Ford. They seem to want to make this procedure as difficult as possible to force you into the dealership for $$$.
I wouldn’t recommend dex 3 in it. If you over full the fluid level gets up to the rotating gear set, gets aerated and you start pumping lots of air bubbles through the hydraulic circuits. Fluctuating hydraulic pressures and possibly slippage / excess heat build up and eventually transmission damage.
What is the normal operating temperature for this transmission. And what is too hot? (Overheating) Pulling 10000 lbs trailer and fluid was all over my trailer and temp was 224' F Mechanic said it was coming out of the breather. F150 2019 3,5 eco boost Max tow package
I wouldn’t consider 224 over heating. I would think some where around 250-270 would be over heating, but I’d be getting pretty nervous if it was getting above 230 or 240. I think they usually set overheat codes around 270-280. Blowing it out the vent is not a good sign. Even if the fluid didn’t overheat it sound like there was a localized hot spot, torque convertor etc. does it seem to be working ok? And codes?
That should have a horizontal fill / check plug on the passenger side front. It’s checked like a manual transmission or a differential. Full to the plug hole.
2020 F150 10R80 is the same procedure. If the dipstick is labeled in letters fluid should be in the “B” area. If it’s numbered then between the 5 and 6.
I got a new 2022 Ford Mustang gt 10-speed but I noticed the front of the car sounds like it has a whine to it. When I rev the engine a little bit, I can hear the whine. Is that normal?
We Went from checking the dipstick above the engine to being close to the exhaust with the engine on. Doesn’t this seem backwards thinking to be under the vehicle just to check it.
Its actually forward thinking because you need to have a computer connected to the vehicle while its running to be sure the trans fluid is at a minimum of 206 degrees. The only thing in the video that wasn't quite clear is they say its a screw on dipstick. Its a cap that screws on to cover the dipstick. You can leave the cap off while you are checking the fluid.
@@solarfall2728 No "computer needed". Most OBD 2 devices will tell you the temp and most new Fords will tell you the trans temp in the display. Ford just wanted to make us take it in to the dealer to maximize $$$.
@@Anon1mous It doesn't work that way. The last thing Ford wants you to do is take the vehicle in to the dealer. Ford has to pay us a fortune every time someone brings their car in. A car dealership isn't Ford. Its someone's private business. With all of the reliability issues we're currently having, this is a huge problem for Ford. We have staff meetings all the time because of all the new rules Ford is putting in place to keep customers out of the dealers. That said, a scan tool is a computer. But just because you plug into an OBD2 port doesn't mean everything is OBD2 compliant. Only specific information falls under OBD2 laws. Everything else is brand specific. For example, a typical DTC starts with a letter like P, B, C, or U. The next digit is either a 1 or 0. If its a 0, that's an OBD2 code and has to comply with the regulations. If its a 1, that's manufacturer specific. There's no guarantee these will be readable by an aftermarket scanner. So, can you get the info from the trans temp sensor with an aftermarket device? I work for Ford so I only use our own system, but my best guess would be probably. Maybe not on a cheap scanner, but you should be able to get it on a mid to high level aftermarket scanner. I can tell you from personal experience, because we currently have a recall that requires us to set the level on the new 10 speed, that if you don't get it just right, you'll have issues. Its a very unforgiving system.
@@solarfall2728 what kind of issues. I have a new 2021 mustang gt 5.0 with 10 speed auto and it seems to down shift hard in sport mode. Is this Normal?
I've got the dipstick out on a 2019 Ford Ranger and separated from the cap. When I put the time it in the transmission it doesn't feel tight or snug. Is that right or do I not have the dipstick all the way in?
I get an interment grinding noise from my transmission. 2019 f150 4wd. The dealer is telling me this is normal. Does this make sense to you. The noise comes only sometimes even when in 4wd. Does not come that often in “sport mode”. What do you think?
After 3 trips to the dealer, they told me I should 91 octane gas. Problem went away. It was engine ping which I mistook for transmission grinding noise.
The dipstick comes off the nut so you just push dipstick in hole far as it goes then just pull out to check. When your finished then put the nut/threaded cap back on over dipstick
@@jasongallowayelite7432 Thanks! My 2018 doesn't show any leaking but now in 2020 has started having issues with hard or slow shifting. I start and put it in gear and it takes a bit before the truck will move. Suddenly it engages and barks the tires. Thought I would check the fluid, but I couldn't find a dipstick until I saw your video.
@@789295 when u check it and if its low the fluid may be going into your transfer case through the worn or broken seal. Or maybe if a shop has checked it before they may have not known where the fill mark is i dunno just some thoughts
@@jasongallowayelite7432 then if you tried a good quality, name brand (snap-on or matco), then your nut/bolt head must be rounded. It only takes one time with an improper/worn tool to cause irreversible damage/ware.
You probably have a cheap wrench. The first time you take it off, its way overtightened from the factory. A stubby wrench allows you to get the box end on at a much cleaner angle.
I've looked at the online manual for my 2022 F150 Power Boost, but no number for the transmission level, could I find. If someone knows the full level number and could share it, thanks in advance!
I had to look that one up. I don't think I've had to check one of the hybrid F-150 yet. The correct level is between 3 and 4, transmission between 206F-215F with engine running, but do they ever have a procedure to check it. They have a continous engine running mode they want the vehicle placed in to check the fluid level. I'll do my best not to leave out any steps. vehicle in park, ignition off 1)Apply the parking brake (do not press the brake pedal) 2)Turn ignition on, leave engine off 3)Within 5 seconds fully depress the brake pedal and accelerator pedal at the same time and hold for 10 seconds. 4)Within 5 seconds, release only the accelerator pedal and engage engine start mode (ignition on, engine running) 5)Fully press the accelerator pedal for 10 seconds or until the green READY indicator turns off and starts flashing once every 3 seconds indicating the vehicle is in the engine running diagnostics mode. If the green READY indicator doesn't turn off after 10 seconds, cycle the ignition and start over 6)Release the brake and accelerator pedals. The engine should remain running continously. The correct level is between 3 and 4. We all learned something today ;-)
@@CarShopTalk - Thank You!! I'll share this on some forums that I'm following. This will likely help dozens of Power Boost owners in the near future! Thanks again!! [Is it safe to assume the dipstick needs to be fully re threaded to reach the correct level for a valid reading?]
@@ddbutikofer825 fully rethreaded or most of them pull out of the cap and just fully insert it in the transmission. There’s a shoulder, you can’t put it in too far or drop it in the transmission.
@@CarShopTalk Update 3-20-22 : So, I took it on myself to follow the transmission oil check procedure outlined above. Only a couple very small burns from the process. I did two readings as shown in the attached pictures. If I did it right, I'm absolutely low on fluid as well. The relationship to the cold start noise remains uncertain to me, but being this low can't be good. The reading I got was between 5 and 6. The correct reading is suppose to be between 3 and 4. My truck is 2 full marks/quarts/liters/who knows low, it seems. My Ford dealership appointment is tomorrow morning, 7am. [For an undetermined period of time I'm told]. At the least, I now have something to show the guys who will be troubleshooting my truck. When I know more, I'll pass it along....😉
The only way for me to get my transmission temp up to 206 degrees is to pull my travel trailer up a long 6% grade, factory trans temp gauge runs 190-195 when not pulling a trailer. This is on a 2019 F150 Raptor.
It definitely can be difficult to get them up to the temp they want the fluid checked at. No one talks about it, but usually you have to gently brake stand them for a couple minutes to get to that temp.
Any way you can. I normally use a piece of tubing that’s made into a J shape to get into the dipstick hole in the transmission. I use a siphon gun / pump to add or remove fluid usually, but occasionally I’ve just used a bottle of fluid with a nipple on the end and stuck a hose over it. It’s a pain in the butt and it’s messy.
I'm guessing Ford eliminated to Long Transmission Dipstick for One reason and it's to encourage Truck Owners to take their Vehicle to a Ford Dealership for Servicing? Yup, I'm pretty sure that's the reason...
The reason I’ve heard most often is they blame a lot of transmission failures on over filled transmissions. The high fluid level gets into the planetary gears and get aerated. Air is compressible and in the hydraulic system causes pressure fluctuations and clutches to slip. The over filled transmission was usually blamed on the fluid being checked cold, causing it to look low and fluid being added. It can still be checked at home, but it’s definitely a bigger pain in the A$$.
@@s.o.r1017 do you have one or had one..I currently traded my ram 1500 for a ford f150 because the Rams eight speed was always jerking on downshifts and hard acceleration..this 10 speed seems to be better as of right now..fingers crossed 🤞
I thought I was an idiot not seeing the transmission dipstick. I’ll be thinking twice about my next vehicle purchase. That “dipstick” literally has to be the dumbest thing. I’ve ever seen...today! WTF?!
Its not unique , the 6 r 80 is checked in the same way. The little dip stick has the traditional high and low marks with the crosshatch marks in between .
True, unique wasn’t really the right word. There’s several transmissions that are checked this way, and a couple others that are kind of similar. I was probably thinking of someone who was used to a transmission dipstick when I said that, but you’re right.
Shop Talk this way of checking and filling is difficult if not dangerous because of the close proximity to the catalytic converter ! I wish Ford would have put a dipstick and fill tube like they used to !
Various manufactures have been doing this for a decade. So many people act like this all started in 2018 on a F150. Heck, manual transmissions are checked in a similar fashion since the late 1800s.
adaycj You are correct. The problem is a manual transmission usually takes only 3 to 4 gts or less with the engine not running. To fill an F 150 after draining the pan you have to pump in 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 gts the last 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 gts while running and then check the level with the tiny dip stick that is 3 to4 inches from a red hot converter , not easy ! I know because I have 2 F 150s and the burns to prove it ! Or pay the dealership $ 260 to do it !
@@CarShopTalk my statement included all driving, including towing. Good to know you recommend 'brake standing' as a method of getting the transmission up to temperature - by causing heat generating slip in the clutches. I can only imagine what other 'tips and tricks' you use on customers vehicles.
@@bretmarstellar603 Break standing might sound harsh to some but as long as temperatures aren't allowed to escalate too much, it's harmless. The heat is generated 100% by the shearing action within the torque converter.
So its right where my oil level is on the dipstick f*** the f150 5.0 they suck drinks oil like crazy. Im about to be on my 3rd engine. Transmission is garbage as well.
My Mustang 5.0 used a lot of oil, I stop taking it to Ford and use Penrite oil 5w40 and it stoped using oil. I was told by someone I know who works at ford they use cheap oil.
Guess what it is the same transmission on the Chevy also. It was a joint venture. Nothing new here. Get a clue. Never heard of checking the fluid levels. ..
Yeah...not quite super easy but not impossible, either. Just exchange it every 40K and if you want to check the level somewhere along the line, then do it. Once the fluid level is set, you're pretty much good to go...unless you're leaking all over the place. Heck...most of the time with the classic dipstick we're only looking to make sure it doesn't stink or is turning brown...but I do agree, it would be nice to have the classic dipstick. I just bought a super duty with this transmission...I'll just change the fluid like I said and not worry about it.
@@byronlemay2166 I am sorry but that is not a very good answer Byron. The transmission has a vent valve that could spit fluid if it gets warmer than expected. The trans cooler runs through the radiator and could seep into the coolant and how do you know without checking the level "easily"? If its just a small leak over time you may never see it if you happen to spend most of your time on dirt roads.
@@patrickgarant3643 Um...I have a transmission cooler on my truck and it has nothing to do with the radiator...the lines for the fluids don't come anywhere near mixing. Also, I've never heard of a transmission "spitting fluid". If you provide a link to verify what you say here, I'd love to see it.
If you are going to change your fluid and filter, check it before you start at the correct temp before you start the change. Then you will know the correct level. Unless you have a leak.
@@cheizaguirre5494 check your fluid level before you change your transmission fluid, if your transmission has no leaks then you will know the correct level to put back in the transmission when changing the fluid. The 10 speed transmission has a dipstick built into it under a plug right at the spot where old transmissions had dipsticks.
They sure have made checking Transmission oil level way more difficult than it was with the old style dip stick.
Great video, thank you
Thanks!
Wow this is extremely helpful! Packed with a lot of info. You supplied everything man! Keep it up!
Thanks.
Very direct and informative. Straight to the point with vital information such as socket size making this task a quick one for anyone watching. Nicely done, thank you
Glad it helped, thanks!
I was a ford tech for a while. You are correct on checking the fluid level. Yes it's supposed to be between 206-215 degrees. However you can check it cold. Engine must still be running. On the numbered dipstick that you had. Number 6 is full hot. However if your doing a cold check (with engine running) the fluid level should be one number below. Little tips we learned in transmission class. The fluid expands when hot. This keeps you from burning yourself. If your dipstick has the "3 blocks" it should be 1 block below the hot full one. And the single block or hash mark it would be just below that. Hope that helps.
Sounds about right. I think they go up about 1 number between cold and hot.
@@CarShopTalk yea I forgot the exact number movement but I do believe you are right. I'm gonna have to look it up now. Now I'm curious
NUMBER 6 is full hot? BUT this video said that got to be between 5------6, ?????
@@mr.commander3947 full cold would be around 5. Full hot is 6 if your on the numbered dipstick.
@@mr.commander3947 if it’s at 6 when it’s up to temp I’d say it’s still in spec. You could add a little if you want to put it in the middle. Maybe a third of a quart or so.
Should be illegal to not allow someone to simply check vital fluids .....
You can check the fluid level, you just have to get under the truck to do it.
@@tabcobra and thats stupid.
Exactly
Or like, if your trans starts acting up and you don’t have tools with you? And could just be fluid, but Ford wants to make sure people go to them to get trans fluid 🤬
Yes stupid as shit
Thank you very much. Extremely helpful!
You’re welcome!
On the A/B dipstick, it says "SEE MANUAL" which is comical because thr manual says "The Automatic Transmission does not have a dipstick" 😂😂
So when you check the fluid do you screw the dip stick all the way back in or just put it back in without threading it in?
Got to love easy fluid checks
Definitely
Thank you, much appreciated.
You’re very welcome!
If you pull a couple quarts out with a suction gun and then replace the exact same amount with new fluid , to me that would be perfect way of measurement and if you do it often that I would think would be very beneficial to the transmission
This is unbelievable. Ford designs a fluid check stick that puts it's customers in danger of burns, simply to CHECK the quantity ??? How has Ford not been sued time and time again ??
In today's "safety is number one" environment, this is incredible.
and GM THEY ALL DO IT
Dodges don't even have dipsticks and haven't for 15 years.
Is this the same for the 10r80 mustang Gt ?
Thank you sir I just subscribed
You’re welcome, thanks!
I've got a dip stick with A & B on it and I've got some info from a Mustang forum saying the level when hot should be in A your the second person i've found to say it should be in B when hot. I'm talking about a Mustang so is that the diffrence, do you know.
Great video your a blessing.
Hey guys I have a 2018 Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost and I’m wondering how often I should get the transmission fluid replaced or flushed? I seem to be getting different answers from different sources but my owner’s manual says not until 240,000 kms. Some say online between 30K - 60K miles. I’m already at 140,000 km’s and I have been experiencing some jerking and surging behaviour when my truck shifts especially around the 4th gear since it hit the 90,000 km mark.
Thank you 🙏
Very well done and informative! On my 2018 with a 140000 miles I got the see owner's manual light with the wrench? If after I parked the truck and started driving it again the light disappeared and has not come back. I wonder could my transmission fluid ne low? It's it dries and performs great. Was curious if low fluid could make that light come on? Thanks for any input anyone!
I don’t think it could be low transmission fluid. Possibly a throttle body actuator or something like that.
@@CarShopTalk thx for the kind reply and guidance. I'll investigate that! Thank you
Great vid. Thank you
Is there any aftermarket dipstick tube that can be installed to check the oil level from the engine bay?
Not that I’m aware of, but it seems like something someone would start making.
Ok so f150 2018 5.0 10R80...new trans and checked fluid cold and its halfway mark on dipstick. My throughts are it should be close to the bottom when cold. Perhaos they overfilled it when installing ?how critical is it for me to suck out some fluid right away ?
My 2020 f150 owners manual doesn't say the proper level. Says to contact a dealer.
I have a 2020 Ford Transit 3.5l Ecoboost with the 10 speed. I read the manual and all it said was to bring it in to the dealer to get it check. Where can I find the information to check and service the transmission?
The 2020 Transit uses the same style of indicator / dipstick shown in the video. It’s the same procedure except the correct fluid level should be between the 4 and 5.
Thanks for the video it’s very helpful!
All these rude comments are petty
In reality most transmissions don’t have to be checked constantly unless there’s a leak or something
I usually check ours at oil changes no big deal if you’re under there already anyway !
And you somehow think this is easier to check than a damn dipstick? I check mine at least 3 times between oil changes. Overkill, maybe but it only takes a few seconds to check versus this suck ass way of going about it. Thanks for nothing ford, I knew I should have bought a dodge.. the next one won’t be a ford, that’s a guarantee
@@paulhunter9613 nobody said it was easier and it’s been my experience you can’t keep a transmission operating in a dodge long enough to have to check the fluid between oil changes 😂
They’re both still better than #Shovrolets!
@@paulhunter9613 You do realize the Zf 8spd automatic which is in all the Ram 1/2 ton trucks has no dipstick at all right and is a huge PITA to to service.
They all have this same setup pretty much. Ford an Chevrolet run the same transmission as a matter fact.
Hello! great Video, do you know how many quarts of Mercon ULV will be needed for a drain and fill on this transmission? I’m planing to change the filter too, but I know it won’t take 13 quarts. Thank you!
Ford tech makuloco has a video explaining the whole process
8qts should be enough. Will take about 7.5 but will vary.
6 on initial fill after changing fluid and filter. Start it. Shift through gears. Then go back under and check should be about 7 or 7.5. 12.8 is total fill as in a rebuild and such.
Drain it and see how much came out, replace the same amount and check dipstick
Thanks!
You’re welcome
Will the dashboard on the 2017 F150 XL notify you when the transmission fluid needs attention?
If it does; then it would be too late!
Change every 50K if towing or 100K if running empty and you won’t have any problems.
2023 Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost here that I believe the fluids were not filled properly at the factory. Is the dipstick located in the same spot as in the vid? How to read the dipstick markings if so/what type? Where can I add more tranmission fluid, the same hole? How in the world is that possible?
You add it through the same hole. I have a piece of 3/8 tubing bent like a “J” I use to add fluid.
Does this translate over to the 2020 super duty with the 10 speed?
I believe it has a fill plug on the side where you check it or add fluid. Similar to a manual transmission. If I remember correctly it’s on the drivers side towards the rear of the transmission.
Thanks
You’re welcome.
I changed the transmission fluid and filter. I drained approximately 6 quarts of fluid out. I put in 6 and checked the level. Not touching. I added a quart still not touching. Added the 8th quart and still nothing. Any idea of what’s going on? No leaks. Everything looks good. I drove it and it shifted into 9th gear during test drive. Full operating temp and won’t touch dip stick?
Did you check the level before draining? Also, is it virgin OEM oil pan or aftermarket pan? If the dip stick all the way down?
Hi there !!!!
I hope you help me with this.
Lincoln Navigator L 2019 dipstick with numbers, in what number should be when are hot???
I will appreciate your help for this.
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Correct fluid level is between 5 and 6 with the temp between 206 - 215.
@@CarShopTalk Many many thanks!
I just checked on Friday and it was between 3 and 4.
I think maybe is the reason of some erratic gear changes and some hard shifts as well.
I’ll definitely take care that on this week.
I will let you know.
Blessings
No wonder these are engineered to Fix Or Repair Daily, typical Ford regardless of the eras.
Great video, spot on!
Yeah because all the other manufacturers want you to be able to never bring a vehicle to the dealer.
I have a 10R80 in a 2018 F150 5.0, and the trans runs about 185. Has never been 206. Is there an adjustment factor for the lower operating temp?
On the numbered stick it’s usually about a full number lower.
Is there a dipstick kit that allows you to check from under the hood? Doing it this way is ridiculous.
Not that I know of.
Nope. There are some aftermarket places that will sell you a kit to do this but not from Ford. They seem to want to make this procedure as difficult as possible to force you into the dealership for $$$.
On a 2018 F150 3.0 diesel 10R80 cold fluid is close to top mark. Hot it’s at B is this correct?
Yes. B is correct with it up to temperature.
Can you use dexron 3? What happens if you overfill it?
I wouldn’t recommend dex 3 in it. If you over full the fluid level gets up to the rotating gear set, gets aerated and you start pumping lots of air bubbles through the hydraulic circuits. Fluctuating hydraulic pressures and possibly slippage / excess heat build up and eventually transmission damage.
Do the super dutys still have dip sticks?
No, they don’t. The 6 speed has a short dipstick similar to this. 10 speed has a sight / fill plug similar to a manual transmission.
Page 361 of my 2019 F150 3.5L Ecoboost says "The automatic transmission does not have
a transmission fluid dipstick". True?
It should have the mini dipstick like shown, but no dipstick in the engine compartment.
What is the normal operating temperature for this transmission.
And what is too hot? (Overheating)
Pulling 10000 lbs trailer and fluid was all over my trailer and temp was 224' F
Mechanic said it was coming out of the breather.
F150 2019 3,5 eco boost
Max tow package
I wouldn’t consider 224 over heating. I would think some where around 250-270 would be over heating, but I’d be getting pretty nervous if it was getting above 230 or 240. I think they usually set overheat codes around 270-280. Blowing it out the vent is not a good sign. Even if the fluid didn’t overheat it sound like there was a localized hot spot, torque convertor etc. does it seem to be working ok? And codes?
@@CarShopTalk No codes. Nothing. Yes it's working fine. I took it to shop. They told me it's breather. Changing oil. Thanks for reply.
How do you check a 2020 f350 xlt 6.7 that has no dipstick ?
That should have a horizontal fill / check plug on the passenger side front. It’s checked like a manual transmission or a differential. Full to the plug hole.
@@CarShopTalk thanks bro. I found it, if it spills out it’s overfilled correct?
@@parales03 yes
My 2020 f150 lariat says to bring to dealer to check , do you know the info or where i can find the info to check it.
2020 F150 10R80 is the same procedure. If the dipstick is labeled in letters fluid should be in the “B” area. If it’s numbered then between the 5 and 6.
@@CarShopTalk thanks a ton buddy ole pal
@@CarShopTalk level fluid on number 5 and number 6 is correct?
@@CarShopTalk onetime I check my Ford dipstick it appears on number 4, I think is low,
Thats it I'm buying a 🐏 cummins with the 6 speed Aisin and at least I can check the trans fluid.
Do you always check it hot and running in park ?????
Yes
It looks like the correct level is with the dipstick fully threaded in, correct?
Yes, or you can pull the dipstick out of the cap and just push it in all the way.
I got a new 2022 Ford Mustang gt 10-speed but I noticed the front of the car sounds like it has a whine to it. When I rev the engine a little bit, I can hear the whine. Is that normal?
I don’t remember noticing a whine noise on any of them, but it”s hard to say without listening to it.
I don’t remember noticing a whine noise on any of them, but it”s hard to say without listening to it.
We Went from checking the dipstick above the engine to being close to the exhaust with the engine on. Doesn’t this seem backwards thinking to be under the vehicle just to check it.
Its actually forward thinking because you need to have a computer connected to the vehicle while its running to be sure the trans fluid is at a minimum of 206 degrees.
The only thing in the video that wasn't quite clear is they say its a screw on dipstick. Its a cap that screws on to cover the dipstick. You can leave the cap off while you are checking the fluid.
@@solarfall2728 No "computer needed". Most OBD 2 devices will tell you the temp and most new Fords will tell you the trans temp in the display. Ford just wanted to make us take it in to the dealer to maximize $$$.
@@Anon1mous It doesn't work that way. The last thing Ford wants you to do is take the vehicle in to the dealer. Ford has to pay us a fortune every time someone brings their car in. A car dealership isn't Ford. Its someone's private business. With all of the reliability issues we're currently having, this is a huge problem for Ford. We have staff meetings all the time because of all the new rules Ford is putting in place to keep customers out of the dealers.
That said, a scan tool is a computer. But just because you plug into an OBD2 port doesn't mean everything is OBD2 compliant. Only specific information falls under OBD2 laws. Everything else is brand specific. For example, a typical DTC starts with a letter like P, B, C, or U. The next digit is either a 1 or 0. If its a 0, that's an OBD2 code and has to comply with the regulations. If its a 1, that's manufacturer specific. There's no guarantee these will be readable by an aftermarket scanner.
So, can you get the info from the trans temp sensor with an aftermarket device? I work for Ford so I only use our own system, but my best guess would be probably. Maybe not on a cheap scanner, but you should be able to get it on a mid to high level aftermarket scanner.
I can tell you from personal experience, because we currently have a recall that requires us to set the level on the new 10 speed, that if you don't get it just right, you'll have issues. Its a very unforgiving system.
@@solarfall2728 what kind of issues. I have a new 2021 mustang gt 5.0 with 10 speed auto and it seems to down shift hard in sport mode. Is this Normal?
@@solarfall2728 currently having an overheating problem that the wrench icon comes up. 2018 Expy platinum. What that could be?
Thank You sir!!!🫡
I cant stand these new vehicles without dip sticks!
You’re welcome.
I've got the dipstick out on a 2019 Ford Ranger and separated from the cap. When I put the time it in the transmission it doesn't feel tight or snug. Is that right or do I not have the dipstick all the way in?
Yes, they just push in as far as possible. They still feel loose
@@CarShopTalk ok thanks for the swift reply. That's all I could do!
Can you use ULV in a 6R80 that calls for LV ?
I’ve never seen anything that says you can interchange them so I would say no.
Shop Talk Thanks for the input ! Will do some more research. Will let you know if I find out anything.
I get an interment grinding noise from my transmission. 2019 f150 4wd. The dealer is telling me this is normal. Does this make sense to you. The noise comes only sometimes even when in 4wd. Does not come that often in “sport mode”. What do you think?
I would try another dealer.
I have this issue
After 3 trips to the dealer, they told me I should 91 octane gas. Problem went away. It was engine ping which I mistook for transmission grinding noise.
@@texassingh1027 what engine do you have?
@@aquaman0167 V8
Got to love engineering… lol
After you remove the dipstick to wipe it off, do you screw the dip stick back in all the way and out again to check the level?
The dipstick comes off the nut so you just push dipstick in hole far as it goes then just pull out to check. When your finished then put the nut/threaded cap back on over dipstick
@@jasongallowayelite7432 Thanks! My 2018 doesn't show any leaking but now in 2020 has started having issues with hard or slow shifting. I start and put it in gear and it takes a bit before the truck will move. Suddenly it engages and barks the tires. Thought I would check the fluid, but I couldn't find a dipstick until I saw your video.
@@789295 when u check it and if its low the fluid may be going into your transfer case through the worn or broken seal. Or maybe if a shop has checked it before they may have not known where the fill mark is i dunno just some thoughts
Yes. It gets screwed all the way back in and then back out. It’s a little tricky to do and not get burnt.
I don’t understand the thinning of transmission fluid with all of those gears. Transmission fluid is such an overlooked process in vehicles its crazy
On the 2018 F150 3.0 diesel what should it be at?
If the dipstick uses letters it should be in the “B” area. If it uses numbers it should be between 5 and 6.
@@CarShopTalk Thanks for the reply, when the truck is cold and engine off it was over the B almost at the top. But running and hot at the B.
Thanks
@@JamesJohnson-em9pc you’re welcome.
Is the 19mm wrench supose to fit loosly? 18mm is to small. The 19 feels to big
worn wrench?
@@patrickgarant3643 nah its new set of wrenches i even tried all the ones I have with same results.
@@jasongallowayelite7432 then if you tried a good quality, name brand (snap-on or matco), then your nut/bolt head must be rounded. It only takes one time with an improper/worn tool to cause irreversible damage/ware.
You probably have a cheap wrench. The first time you take it off, its way overtightened from the factory. A stubby wrench allows you to get the box end on at a much cleaner angle.
@@solarfall2728 thanx for the tip. I'm not sure the brand but yeah its a cheap set. What brand wrench do you recommend and I'll go buy one.
Thanx.
My only thought is if you don't have any leaks then you shouldnt have to worry at all about the oil level
I would mostly agree with that. It doesn’t need to be checked often unless there’s an issue.
I've looked at the online manual for my 2022 F150 Power Boost, but no number for the transmission level, could I find. If someone knows the full level number and could share it, thanks in advance!
I had to look that one up. I don't think I've had to check one of the hybrid F-150 yet. The correct level is between 3 and 4, transmission between 206F-215F with engine running, but do they ever have a procedure to check it. They have a continous engine running mode they want the vehicle placed in to check the fluid level. I'll do my best not to leave out any steps.
vehicle in park, ignition off
1)Apply the parking brake (do not press the brake pedal)
2)Turn ignition on, leave engine off
3)Within 5 seconds fully depress the brake pedal and accelerator pedal at the same time and hold for 10 seconds.
4)Within 5 seconds, release only the accelerator pedal and engage engine start mode (ignition on, engine running)
5)Fully press the accelerator pedal for 10 seconds or until the green READY indicator turns off and starts flashing once every 3 seconds indicating the vehicle is in the engine running diagnostics mode.
If the green READY indicator doesn't turn off after 10 seconds, cycle the ignition and start over
6)Release the brake and accelerator pedals. The engine should remain running continously.
The correct level is between 3 and 4.
We all learned something today ;-)
@@CarShopTalk - Thank You!! I'll share this on some forums that I'm following. This will likely help dozens of Power Boost owners in the near future! Thanks again!! [Is it safe to assume the dipstick needs to be fully re threaded to reach the correct level for a valid reading?]
@@ddbutikofer825 fully rethreaded or most of them pull out of the cap and just fully insert it in the transmission. There’s a shoulder, you can’t put it in too far or drop it in the transmission.
@@CarShopTalk Update 3-20-22 :
So, I took it on myself to follow the transmission oil check procedure outlined above. Only a couple very small burns from the process. I did two readings as shown in the attached pictures. If I did it right, I'm absolutely low on fluid as well. The relationship to the cold start noise remains uncertain to me, but being this low can't be good.
The reading I got was between 5 and 6. The correct reading is suppose to be between 3 and 4. My truck is 2 full marks/quarts/liters/who knows low, it seems.
My Ford dealership appointment is tomorrow morning, 7am. [For an undetermined period of time I'm told]. At the least, I now have something to show the guys who will be troubleshooting my truck. When I know more, I'll pass it along....😉
@@ddbutikofer825 please do. What kind of a noise do you have?
Do you screw the dipstick in to check it, or just set it in without threading it?
The screw on piece is a cap that covers the dipstick. Once you remove the cap, you can leave it off until you are done.
After you remove the cap by unscrewing, the dipstick is not threaded and can be pulled straight upward.
The only way for me to get my transmission temp up to 206 degrees is to pull my travel trailer up a long 6% grade, factory trans temp gauge runs 190-195 when not pulling a trailer. This is on a 2019 F150 Raptor.
It definitely can be difficult to get them up to the temp they want the fluid checked at. No one talks about it, but usually you have to gently brake stand them for a couple minutes to get to that temp.
How do you add the fluid?
Any way you can. I normally use a piece of tubing that’s made into a J shape to get into the dipstick hole in the transmission. I use a siphon gun / pump to add or remove fluid usually, but occasionally I’ve just used a bottle of fluid with a nipple on the end and stuck a hose over it. It’s a pain in the butt and it’s messy.
Thanks for the response
what a pain in the ass
What a pain in the butt!! Why not just run a tube up. 🤦♂️ thanks a lot FORD!!
Right? I was hard af then watched this bull shit now I’m soft as a mf
Why wouldn't they have the traditional dipstick???
Saved 3 bucks per vehicle
More work for Techs
I'm guessing Ford eliminated to Long Transmission Dipstick for One reason and it's to encourage Truck Owners to take their Vehicle to a Ford Dealership for Servicing? Yup, I'm pretty sure that's the reason...
The reason I’ve heard most often is they blame a lot of transmission failures on over filled transmissions. The high fluid level gets into the planetary gears and get aerated. Air is compressible and in the hydraulic system causes pressure fluctuations and clutches to slip. The over filled transmission was usually blamed on the fluid being checked cold, causing it to look low and fluid being added. It can still be checked at home, but it’s definitely a bigger pain in the A$$.
These 10 speeds suck there are jerky and the whine you constantly hear when accelerating along with a squell when gear shifting is crazy in my opinion
@@s.o.r1017 do you have one or had one..I currently traded my ram 1500 for a ford f150 because the Rams eight speed was always jerking on downshifts and hard acceleration..this 10 speed seems to be better as of right now..fingers crossed 🤞
@@indypyrotechnics7750 That will only last for a little while. Once broken in, they loosen up quite a bit.
@@s.o.r1017 Just disable the predictive shift . Easy peezy
yes helpful - means that i won't be the one doing it, lol
It’s not in the owners manual. Owners manual> maintenance> automatic transmission fluid check> “have an authorized dealer check…
FORD?! This is some of the dumbest sht ever.............. Thanks for the video btw
I thought I was an idiot not seeing the transmission dipstick. I’ll be thinking twice about my next vehicle purchase. That “dipstick” literally has to be the dumbest thing. I’ve ever seen...today! WTF?!
I agree, and all the manufacturers are doing it. It’s not just a Ford thing.
Its not unique , the 6 r 80 is checked in the same way. The little dip stick has the traditional high and low marks with the crosshatch marks in between .
True, unique wasn’t really the right word. There’s several transmissions that are checked this way, and a couple others that are kind of similar. I was probably thinking of someone who was used to a transmission dipstick when I said that, but you’re right.
Shop Talk this way of checking and filling is difficult if not dangerous because of the close proximity to the catalytic converter ! I wish Ford would have put a dipstick and fill tube like they used to !
Yes I have this same setup on my 09 Explorer 4.6 3V too. Same 19mm nut. Hate it!!! PITA ti get to and bad tight spot.
Various manufactures have been doing this for a decade. So many people act like this all started in 2018 on a F150. Heck, manual transmissions are checked in a similar fashion since the late 1800s.
adaycj You are correct. The problem is a manual transmission usually takes only 3 to 4 gts or less with the engine not running. To fill an F 150 after draining the pan you have to pump in 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 gts the last 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 gts while running and then check the level with the tiny dip stick that is 3 to4 inches from a red hot converter , not easy ! I know because I have 2 F 150s and the burns to prove it ! Or pay the dealership $ 260 to do it !
In other words they don't want you checking the fluid in this transmission.
EXACTLY
My transmission never gets to 206⁰F.
You’ll have to drive it or brake stand it to get the temp up. Just sitting there idling probably won’t ever get it there.
Build a small fire under the transmission that would heat it up
@@CarShopTalk my statement included all driving, including towing. Good to know you recommend 'brake standing' as a method of getting the transmission up to temperature - by causing heat generating slip in the clutches. I can only imagine what other 'tips and tricks' you use on customers vehicles.
@@bretmarstellar603
Break standing might sound harsh to some but as long as temperatures aren't allowed to escalate too much, it's harmless.
The heat is generated 100% by the shearing action within the torque converter.
Did the Chinese invent this part of the Ford F-150 just to "F" with us?
One quart over?
Send it... 😅
I PUT A B&M DIPSTICK IN MINE NO CRAWLING UNDER THE TRUCK AGAIN
I hadn’t thought about that, but it’s genius.
Valvoline ULV meets Fords specs
My manual says Merkon LV..XT-10-QLVC for 2019 model. I measure what I remove and add that exact amount. Making sure no previous leaks of course
wait... what????!!!
Are Ford 10 speed transmissions 🗑️?
They definitely have more issues than previous transmissions.
Wth.. should be designed to check from the top with the damn thing not running
BUYER BEWARE! Massive amounts of problems with this 10 speed transmission. Need proof? Look right here in you tube it’s all here!
Transmission fluid check really?
So its right where my oil level is on the dipstick f*** the f150 5.0 they suck drinks oil like crazy. Im about to be on my 3rd engine. Transmission is garbage as well.
My Mustang 5.0 used a lot of oil, I stop taking it to Ford and use Penrite oil 5w40 and it stoped using oil. I was told by someone I know who works at ford they use cheap oil.
@@keithmears5453 5W50 is best for the 5.0. The only reason they wanted you to use 5W20 or 5W30 was for EPA gas mileage BS.
This is the shity part of a ford, difficult just to check your transmission fluid
it's not just ford but, every manufacture doing this to keep income coming in.
Guess what it is the same transmission on the Chevy also. It was a joint venture. Nothing new here. Get a clue. Never heard of checking the fluid levels. ..
Yeah...not quite super easy but not impossible, either. Just exchange it every 40K and if you want to check the level somewhere along the line, then do it. Once the fluid level is set, you're pretty much good to go...unless you're leaking all over the place. Heck...most of the time with the classic dipstick we're only looking to make sure it doesn't stink or is turning brown...but I do agree, it would be nice to have the classic dipstick. I just bought a super duty with this transmission...I'll just change the fluid like I said and not worry about it.
@@byronlemay2166 I am sorry but that is not a very good answer Byron. The transmission has a vent valve that could spit fluid if it gets warmer than expected. The trans cooler runs through the radiator and could seep into the coolant and how do you know without checking the level "easily"? If its just a small leak over time you may never see it if you happen to spend most of your time on dirt roads.
@@patrickgarant3643 Um...I have a transmission cooler on my truck and it has nothing to do with the radiator...the lines for the fluids don't come anywhere near mixing. Also, I've never heard of a transmission "spitting fluid". If you provide a link to verify what you say here, I'd love to see it.
Now I know where is the 2017 Ford mustang dipstick transmission good job Ford 💩
Be thankful that you don't have a 2018 with the new gds system. Then you would have a crap motor to go along with your crap transmission.
Stfu and drive your Prius into a bridge abutment
Junk. Can’t put a simple tube and dipstick in like normal. Ford engineering 💩
What a stupid design.
Those transmissions are junk
Haha dude sod off ya plonk. The 10R80s are holding up insanely well
These new 10-speed Transmissions are junk
If you are going to change your fluid and filter, check it before you start at the correct temp before you start the change. Then you will know the correct level. Unless you have a leak.
I got confuse can you explain it again for someone slower lol ?
@@cheizaguirre5494 check your fluid level before you change your transmission fluid, if your transmission has no leaks then you will know the correct level to put back in the transmission when changing the fluid. The 10 speed transmission has a dipstick built into it under a plug right at the spot where old transmissions had dipsticks.
My question, where to add the fluid, that is what i am looking for
It goes in through the dipstick hole.