Pt.1 Real Navigation Officer Reacts to The Cost of Concordia
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- In this reaction video, I will use my background as a coast guard officer to give extra comments on this video made by internet historian. My intent is not to actively bash his video, but to give extra professional comments on the whole narration.
On 13 January 2012 at 21:45, Costa Concordia struck a rock in the Tyrrhenian Sea just off the eastern shore of Isola del Giglio. This tore open a 50 m (160 ft) gash on the port side of her hull, which soon flooded parts of the engine room, cutting power from the engines and ship services. As water flooded in and the ship listed, she drifted back towards the island and grounded near shore, then rolled onto her starboard side, lying in an unsteady position on a rocky underwater ledge.
The evacuation of Costa Concordia took over six hours, and of the 3,229 passengers and 1,023 crew known to have been aboard, 32 died. Francesco Schettino, the ship's captain at that time, was subsequently found guilty of manslaughter, causing a maritime accident, and abandoning his ship. The wreck was salvaged three years after the incident and then towed to the port of Genoa, where scrapping operations began.
Over all, Internet Historian did an amazing job. It was a very accurate recollection of all the events surrounding the Costa Concordia. And at the same time, fun and entertaining to watch. I can’t recommend it enough. You can find the link to his video over here:
• The Cost of Concordia
It is important to know that I only covered about half of the video. The other half were more about the aftermath and the judicial trials, which was a bit out of my field of expertise.
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A little bit about myself: I used to work as a navigation officer for the Canadian Coast Guard fleet for more than four years. I also did my training at the Coast Guard College in Cape Breton. I took part on multiple operations around the country, including the Arctic. Nowadays, I enjoy a comfortable life on shore. I still work for the Coast Guard, but from the office. A drastic change in my everyday life, but it gave me the opportunity to do youtube videos like this one.
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www.britannica.com/event/Cost...
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THE SECOND PART IS OUT! Despite what I said at the end of this video, I actually did make a second part were I cover the rest of ''the Cost of Concordia'', here is the link:
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no1 cares loser, make your own content you leprous leach
HOO YEAH BABY!
The link is jumping toward the end of the video. You need to remove the "&t=1508s" from the end of the link.
@@Greywander87 Fixed, thank you very much for pointing it out!
@@Spl1ntMan tf is wrong with you
Hey Vince, cool channel and thank you for watching and for the kind praise!
Very interesting to hear perspective from someone in the industry!
We figured there'd be experienced professionals who would see this video -- and we have no maritime background whatsoever -- so we spent a lot of time learning as much as we could -- thrilled to hear we got so much right and can't wait to tell the guys in the office tomorrow about this video :)
(We might be starting on Suez in a couple of months. Lemme send you a DM -- it would get great to get your input.)
hello there
I am deeply honored that you took the time to watch this video. The praise I gave where absolutly deserved.
And it would be my great pleasure to collaborate with you. Feel free to message me at eych@live.ca
Oh wow you really were watching.
Yoooooo, my guy! o/ Good to know you put in heaps of research, and am excited for the Suez vid. Hopefully Vince can cover that one, too.
Yo Where's the Q&A video
As a former US Navy sailor I can confirm standard US design is that at least one Coffee Pot will be hardwired in the Critical lighting system.
Ho cool, glad to see another member who used to work on the sea.
It's almost as important as powering the sensors that the carrier uses to steer the battlegroup into the nearest storm.
@@CruelestChris without coffee, how can a crew remain sharp in a crisis situation?
We called it "NR3 BLR"
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 What about the music?
"that ship, she was cursed"
Vince: smiles like its a joke
"the bottle bounced right off"
Vince's facial expression: oh, real shit?!?
"oh fuck maybe it WAS cursed"
ahh thats mean we have real deal here.
well I may be completely out to lunch but wasnt the original purpose of the champagne bottle thing to help test if the wood of the prow was good? strong enough to break the thick glass of a champagne bottle? idk tho
EDIT: after cursory research it is because of a mix of ancient religious ceremonies and british naval imperialism
"Just because this ship that didn't break the bottle of champagne sank doesn't mean it's cursed."
It's called a bad omen for a reason. It's the universes way of saying "Oi, mate, you're screwed."
@@mariokarter13 A unrelated question, do you believe in omens? Or the curses?
Video: "pulling up to 16 Knotts".
Vince: *visibly concerned *
He could tell right away how dangerous going that fast close to shore was.
28:36 I am honestly impressed by the Engineer guys, not only did they seem to respond to every emergency well, but did so inspite of the captain clearly freaking out. They also stayed on the bottom part of a sinking ship for quite a while, that takes some balls.
Respects for anyone working in the engine room.
As a main space boiler tech, we usually Drilled to the point of autonomy. There were a few times where I started responding to an event without realizing the extent of the event. At least that’s how the US Navy worked
There is a format meme about the weight of balls... all right, I'll do it: There was a rumour that the ship was sinking due to the weight of the balls of the engineers.
you can always count on an engineer to tell it how it is
ship chief engineer had almost 30 years of experience on his job, unlike the "captain"
And again I like to point out that "Schettino" sounds a lot like "scotina", which means "cattle" in Russian and is frequently used to desribe an immoral person. Which is exactly how he acted.
Foreshadowing
@@lakshaykochhar6799 Imagine being a Russian on Costa Concordia and hearing something like: "Your captain Mister Cattle/Douchebag welcomes you".
@@mauser98kar My russian version: oh! I don't even need to came up with my own insults.
@@lakshaykochhar6799 Good one.
I think he was more stupid and oblivious rather than immoral
I'm surprised that nobody's made a prank bottle that's really hard to break
I'll add that to my todo list.
Plastic bottle
Automotive glazed bottle. Automotive glass has 2 layers of laminate
@@acertainrottenbonesonagold8172 nuka cola dark
@@forickgrimaldus8301 ah, an Internet historian expert I see
An interesting thought regarding the bottle-smashing superstition: I believe that these days, it still serves an important purpose- as a sort of indicator of the trustworthiness of the ones who own the ship. For instance, you brought up how there are typically bottles made of an easily-breakable glass used for the ceremony, plus the system of ropes designed to smash the bottle into the side. The only reason the ceremony would fail these days is if either the bottle was not the proper type of bottle, the rope system was set up improperly, the person responsible for initiating the sequence messes up somehow, or a combination of all three.
Which of course raises the question, if the people in charge tried to skimp on a relatively cheap and simple one-time expense, what other corners were they cutting? Which, considering how the Costa Concordia suffered from both a jammed watertight door, an emergency generator with a faulty cooling fan, and a black-box of all things that suffered technical problems...
Ah, so the bottle-smashing ceremony is the maritime equivalent of Van Halen's "No Brown M&Ms" tour rider. Not important in itself, but a sign to check on what other details are being skipped out on.
I had always assumed that it originally indicated some sort of structural property, like the quality of the wood the ship was built from. If the bottle didn't break, that meant the wood was softer or spongier, and of lower quality, or maybe it wasn't treated properly.
Damm, it suddenly makes more sense now.
Oh yeah, its big brain time
Given what you said, I now think it's reasonable that bottle-smashing a ship is indicative of what could happen...
I.e.: a dead giveaway whether a ship will encounter something bad in the future or sail the rest of its life. Maybe even a foreshadowing.
I won't lie, I came for the Internet Historian, I stayed because Vince has a great video format and editing skills, as well as a wonderful personality as well as an honestly very interesting share of information in regards to sailing.
My, there are so many kind compliments, I am not even sure I could cover them all with a single ‘’thank you’’
@@sailorvince6442 I agree with Sans Profile Pic, ive watched the original video three times, and now you’ve given a brand new deeper level of enjoyment for me! I especially love your concession about “ok maybe they would have music hooked up to the backups, since that one ship I was on had their coffee maker hooked up to it”
Same here, hus content is top notch.
Same here tbh
What I like with this guy is the fact that he does not "boomer" through the video. He is able to explain things without letting his expertise come on like he is talking down to you.
That one dislike is from Francesco Schettino
Ha ha ha, well, I am sure he got far more dislikes than me.
They have internet in prison?
@@somerandomname3124 in Norway they have not only internet, they even have PS4. Norway, as a massively socialistic country, has better living conditions for it's prisons than most of europe has for normal flats.
@@HyperVegitoDBZ because Norway is great
@@okok72277 Indeed. Far more lucrative to kill thieves and go to prison that live a normal life :)
As someone who works as a deckhand on a tug boat that has to deal with large ships and barge's ya a tug boat would have been worthless in this situation we can't exactly maneuver something that is actively sinking as soon as it was confirmed that more than 2 compartments where flooded they should have signaled distress and began coordinating a full evacuation with the coast guard and while the ship still would have been lost the lives of those drowning victims could have been saved
No way! I am so glad I caught the attention of someone who actually worked on tug boats! I always admire your work. Thank you for sharing your expertise here.
Yeah as close as the ship was to shore there's no reason why 33 people should have died.
To be completely fair, even if your ship is running on emergency power, you'd still need coffee. Hell that's the time you most definitely need coffee.
When adrenaline kicks in, you can go without for a while. But when the adrenaline fades, oh boy...
Good point😂
Compared to the Costa Concordia, the navigators of Titanic did their job professionally.
Captain Smith altered course to take the Southern Transatlantic route to avoid ice altogether. When passing command to Second Officer Lightholler, Smith warned to look out for any signs of ice and monitor the water temperature. If conditions changed, Smith told Lightholler to warn him at once and to pass this information to the others. He told to have the lookouts pay close attention. Lightholler relayed these orders to First Officer Murdoch who relieved him. Murdoch took special special watch himself. According to Maritime rules, you continue at full speed in clear conditions and stop and steer if there are obstacles spotted. If the conditions were foggy, then the ship must slow down.
When the iceberg was spotted, it is believed that Murdoch spotted it as well. He ordered the helm hard-a-starboard. Some say that the ship was ordered in reverse, but actually, the all-stop command was given. Reversing the engines would have caused the ship to jerk violently, could have damaged things and would have been ineffective. Lead Fireman Barrett saw the red light come on, which only comes on in a stop order. There was 37 seconds between the spotting and the collision. That was a very short time. The scrape woth the berg barely opened up 6 watertight compartments. The breach would only be a total of 12 square feet in total. Murdoch ordered hard-to-port to swing the stern away from the berg. It was effective.
Murdoch was the best man for the circumstance. It may have been the maiden voyage, but Murdoch also had experience with Titanic's near identical sister ship, the Olympic. He even did the maneuverability test with the Olympic and passed with flying colors. Both ships received superior marks for their responsiveness.
Murdoch and Smith both went down with the ship.
Yeah, a lot of people fail to realise that the crew of the Titanic were no newbies. All pretty much very experienced naval officers. It's just unfortunate circumstance and other factors involved, like not having anyone on lookout since having someone 24/7 hadn't become standard protocol yet.
i mean
>italian
@@Wackywohoopizzaman97 yeah tint a whole nation for an incident. So i guess that the Italian coast guard that Vince praise should be form by enlisted UK-US-German-whoeverYouThinkItsAReliableNation Marines?
One could start to think that trying to miss these targets causes bigger issues than hitting them.
If you hit it straight on you would cause a lot more dmg, but at fewer compartments.. while a minor tear down the entire length floods every compartment.. Or is that just me making wrong assumptions?
Geez, never heard this story. Makes the whole thing more tragic, somehow, that everyone tried their best and it was still a disaster.
I worked on the re-floating of this vessel so I spent most of 2013 on her. A couple of things that weren't mentioned in this, or any other, film was:
1: Whenever we ordered anything (tools, fluids, material etc.) we had to order 3-4 times as much as needed since things invariably grew feet on the way to us. That means the bill for the operation grew like crazy.
2: There was a rumor floating around (I heard it on the radio) that "Captain" Schettino couldn't be fired from his position during the legal rounds and instead was lifting his Cpt. salary while travelling the country giving lectures in universities on the subject "What to do in case of a disaster at sea".
3: We (the salvors) were strictly forbidden from wandering inside once we had re-floated her. That coupled with the heavy presence of Carabinieris had its explanation when it was made known that there was a LARGE shipment of drugs hidden in the lower decks. Not to mention 2 dead ppl...
Thanks for this comment. It really reaffirms something Internet Historian said about drugs later in his video. What a shame.
Oh man, that's so cool but also sad. It must've been a lot of hard work.
@@lesteryaytrippy7282 Quite so... I mean, I'm from Sweden and just wasn't used to 50+ degrees so that made everything a struggle... But in the end it was very satisfactory as well...
@@MrOddball63 Thank you for your service.
@@Drekromancer Literally the first time those words were addressed to me :)
Thank YOU!
Never really been a fan of reaction videos, but in cases like this where it's someone who is experienced with the topic in question (in addition to having a nice, non-obnoxious format and editing), it can actually add a lot of additional information in an enjoyable way.
Good job, sir!
In that case you’ll love Mama Dr Jones, she’s an OBGYN who reacts to tv shows involving women’s health and especially childbirth.
I'm glad to see more of these kind of channels around.
Wow, I don't know which compliment to answer first! Reading such a wonderful comment from someone who usually is not a fan of this kind of content is a great win for me. Thank you very much!
I'm glad I saw this. I watched the original video a while ago, and while I loved it, I had no idea how accurate it was. On one hand, the video back up what I heard in the news (I followed the story quite closely at the time). On the other, it's hard not to be suspicious of a video about a sinking Italian cruise ship that features opera music and airborne pasta at the moment of impact. It's good to know that it was relatively faithful to real events.
me too. I avoid react video like a plague. but I watch it when the reaction is from the people of the expert. Like Bill Wurtz's video of History of Japan reacted by a Japanese history teacher.
Let’s not forget the one Italian word that mister DE FALCO said against the cowardly captain "Vada a bordo, cazzo!" Very popular
You should really watch the original video in its entirety, its real good
@@mynewaccount2604 already did a long time ago during lockdown watched a few parts of the Concordia as well as the internet historians version that has far more events before and after the Concordia
That part was real popular on the ex-Navy blog I used to read.
“I was on a ship which had a coffee machine on the emergency electrical system”
Yeah, someone’s priorities are on point!
As a Master Helmsman for the Navy, every time I hear this story I just cringe and shake my head. Not only is the poor lad new to being on the helm, you've got the language barrier and obviously being new, a lack of confidence to directly question the Conn and inquire about things you'd also have experience of. Painful
Yes! I am always glad when my videos attract the attention of anyone else who works on boat. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
Sounds PERFECT to help pilot a $700,000,000 cruise ship!!
I'm not really a fan of the "X profession reacts to Y" cause I think most of the time people barely have anything to say aside of a 2 word side note on the video and stuff like that, but I liked this video a lot, you popped google open to do your own research, edited pretty efficiently this video and didn't repeat yourself too much.
Only thing you need improving a bit is your delivery on camera, but that'll come naturally with time if you keep making videos, keep it up man
Indeed, I am already proud of the progress I have made so far. And I am sure it will get even better in the future.
A great example of people having a lot to say is normally vocal coaches or musicians that watch and comment on a performance. My favourite reaction is to Maynard James Keenan's vocals in a live version of Sober by Tool. He nails the vocals and his entire demeanour is purposely stilted and odd while he just kinda feels the music. The reaction to a weird guy wobbling and swaying in a pink onesy, hunched up and staring intently at the crowed while also making his vocals look easy. So fun to watch people be shocked by it, especially when they know their shit in terms of traditional vocals and singing habits. 👌😁
Yeah there are only a few who actually use their expertise in these videos. Personal favourite is Alex Moukala who has done a few reactions to music and breaks down the technique and theory, and how these affect the music. That's the gold standard, but unfortunately so many don't actually say anything of value. I'm glad that this video is an example of someone who adds their expertise and experience to the reaction.
@@j.r.huffnstuff3549 I love watching Sam Johnson. He makes things comprehensible for know-nothings like me, he's charming and genuinely sweet, and he always explains the technical side of things without going overboard, so his commentary never feels excessive or masturbatory. I loved his reaction to Anthony Vincent's first "Hardest Vocal Lines to Sing" video, and his reaction to a video about the "Top 10 Worst American Idol Auditions" made me just absolutely fall in love with him. He was so empathetic and kind to the people featured (mocked) in the video, explained what they were doing wrong and why they might have thought they were doing worked. Not to mention a video on transphobia in the vocal lesson industry and how to recognize an "unsafe" teacher as a trans person! I *can't* say enough about how deserving Sam is of as many subs and views as possible. If I can ever afford vocal lessons, I won't take them from ANYBODY but him!
23:12 ...
Can you imagine emergency situation in the middle of the ocean WITHOUT functioning coffe machine?
Imagine, a rescue ship comes over and they see all people mit hot coffe cups in theire hands
@@neffetsk7229
I'd say that they have everything under controll and everyone can have post crisis beer.
It'd be absolute chaos.
I work in a medical setting and when the coffee maker went out the staff had a panic attack and rushed out to buy a new one immediately.
@@Flufferz626
"I can quit any time. Its fine."
:D
A reaction of the 2nd part of the video would still be appreciated and welcome even if it is just to get your overall opinion.
You guys convinced me, I am actually working on a second part video to cover the rest :)
@@sailorvince6442 Yay! I can't wait :) I enjoyed the video, and your input on everything that happened, it was nice to hear a professional commentate on the events that occured.
Thanks. I was a bit disappointed for covering only half of the video.
@@sailorvince6442 you should start that vid with the Coastguard cussing and cursing the captain for leaving his ship and ordering him to get back on the ship. That guy earned a medal
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"When the passengers have to coordinate the evacuation among themselves-" Yeah, but at least they did. At least the passengers all cooperated with each other well enough and found some strong, reasonable voices to respect. Not like the captain and his crew were really earning that respect at the moment, after all. Honestly, I'd much rather see several hundred untrained people saving each other instead of just listening to the lying 'authorities' (who didn't even have any authority at that point). Good on the passengers for taking charge of the situation.
Also, the deputy mayor deserves mad props. When he couldn't find anyone in a command position, he immediately switched to helping people escape. Fantastic.
Yeah, I thought the same thing actually. Seeing stuff like that definitely helps my faith in mankind.
yeah look what happened to the MV Sewol... The passengers listened to the authorities on that ship and it cost hundreds of lives...
The exact opposite of this is the sinking of the SS Arctic in the 1850s. That was an absolutely horrific disaster.
IMPORTANT NOTE: After reading the comments, I realized that the viewers would be very interested that I cover the rest of the video. So despite what I said at the end of this video, there will be a second part coming up soon!
YES!!! More please! We are enjoying both your reaction and analysis!!!
Subbing
When you started talking about how great the Coast Guard officer is and what a good job he was doing you *just* missed the part where he lambasts the captain for leaving and not doing his job and says "Vada A Bordo Cazzo!" (Italian for "Get the f*** back on board!") Which became a famous slogan of his.
@@mrshadow4007 he studied that coast guard commander and in the video he puts text saying he is a fan boy of him 😁
I think he will go into detail about Falco in his second video.
Good! Cause you-
**Spoiler below!**
gotta explain your note about being a fanboy De Falco fanboy!
I mean Itd been fine if you had left the part of the: "Vada A Bordo CAZZO!"
If I may add some more info about Schettino's earlier "wreaks" that I found while researching after I first watched the video:
The first, in 2008 was actually caused by force 7 winds blowing the Costa Concordia into the docks while it was at port.
The second seems to be a bit of a beat up by the media. Schettino did enter port too fast, but according to a statement by AIDA Cruises, who owned the ship that was damaged "The AIDAblu ship was not rammed, touched or damaged at this time. There was a suction effect that caused the ship to move slightly. This is not an exceptional incident. The AIDAblu provisions loading ramp, which was deployed at the time, was minimally damaged by the slight movement of the ship. There was no risk of a collision or for the crew and passengers at any time."
Ha cool! Thank you for providing us with even more information.
It is another interesting parallel with the Titanic, since her captain had managed to mess up her sister Olympic in a collision with a Royal Navy destroyer the year before.
@@CruelestChris Ya, quick question: how do you smack into a *military vessel of any kind* and NOT get viscerally reamed and blacklisted for the rest of your life???
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I believe it was the Military ship that Rammed the side of the Olympic
@@GorillaZillas
Because the _Olympic_ made a turn directly in front of her, hence White Star being found to be at fault.
22:57 Pure speculation, but I'd guess the sound system they were playing music on was the same used one for announcements in that area of the ship, which would be connected to emergency power in case they needed to make an evacuation announcement. They probably don't have separate speakers just for the music.
It would make sense that they were connected, wouldn't want music playing over important announcements.
Ot it could be that the sing was playing before the crash? Its sounds the most reason as a non-expect on ships ...
yes they have (announcement spkrs are actually terrible sounding,you could play music on them but it would sound disgusting)! And it is allways powered by backup battery power,so it will work even in a blackout...
They also had live musicians.
I assumed the music system was online for the same reason the band was still playing on the titanic, you know, to keep everyone calm or whatever
I just received a notification that I have reached 300 subscribers today. I can't express how glad I am that more than 300 people decided to come aboard this channel. You guys are a fantastic crew!
:)
Yours has been my favorite reaction to this Internet Historian video
You definetly deserve it! ^-^
here's another sub count for you. :D
That aged badly. Grats on 1200.
What you say at 12:17 is interesting because it represents a difference with the navy (as in the military). If the captain issues a conning order on the bridge they automatically have the con with no questions asked. It's only done for emergencies, but there doesn't have to be a formal handover.
Ho! That is super interesting to know. But it totally makes sense considering the context of the navy. Thank you for also sharing your expertise.
"it's just a blackout!" *The whole ship doing backflips*
In aviation, we have something called Crew Resource Management (CRM), which seems to both agree with and contradict some of the rules of sailing.
For example, the "Captain's always right" mentality is something that has been fought against rigorously. Years ago, an Air Florida crash in New York occurred when the first officer noticed an issue but the captain still continued with a dangerous takeoff - killing almost everyone aboard. On the flight deck, everyone in the crew has a say in the Aeronautical Decision Making (ADM) process. Even if the captain is comfortable with something, the FO can overrule it and say "No, we are not going through with this."
Just as you said, "This accident did not happen from one mistake, but from a series of multiple mistakes...a ship collision is always a combination of multiple factors." This is almost word for word what we are taught in aviation, as the same is true for air accidents.
It's interesting hearing how the nautical and aeronautical industries are both similar and different.
You should create a new series: Naval disasters commentaries.
BTW this vid is excellent, it's gonna blow up.
That's actually a very good idea. I'll put it in my project list. And I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Yeah! I'm very interested in proper sailor etiquette and why it's important.
My dad was a harbor pilot who very proudly held records for docking the biggest ships, so I'd also love to hear about dangerous or difficult ports (maybe poor planning, or current changes?), and the ways sailors have to adapt in different parts of the world. My favorite parts of the video are when something manages to make him roll his eyes like , "Well, I just found the person that I have to watch 24/7 in order to keep us alive."
I know reaction videos get a bad rap, but "Professional/Relevant Voice Reacts to X" is one of my favorite genres of CZcams videos; getting to see a navigation officer discuss maritime procedure in the context of a silly meme video about history is both fascinating, and all kinds of educational!
I usually despise react channels, but you actually added something with your commentary.
Ho sweet! Thanks for letting me know!
The only good react videos are when it’s an expert in the field
@@sailorvince6442 Agreed! though i am a bit sad you skipped over the add, it is a piece of modern art
It sounds a lot like the seafaring industry could use the same re-working that the airline industry was pushed through decades ago. You know, implement CRM, reduce the captain's unchallengable authority, implement safety procedures like check lists and readbacks, mandate a minimum grasp of "nautical english" (or any other common language onboard), mandatory reporting of near misses and minor accidents, etc. etc.
I was just thinking this, primarily mandating basic english knowledge. That is so important for safety
Fun fact, the ship wreck was visible on Google Maps for a while until they finished salvaging it and towed it away. I specifically remember seeing it myself on my computer, I THINK, back in 2013. It looked kinda scary, when you see the full size in comparison to how tiny the roads in the nearby town of Giglio were
this was a great watch!
its always awesome to see people who actually know what they are talking about reacting to IH's videos!
Nutsack gaming
Oh hey, didn’t expect to see you here! Love your art
Will we ever see you again? :(
With the mention of the "Captain goes down with the ship," I'm reminded of the events reported about the [Britannic]. I always found it so amazing that the captain did his best to make sure everyone else got off the ship. Ultimately, he and the remaining engine crew abandoned ship moments before the ship lost all buoyancy. A majority of the deaths with the Olympic were due to crew ignoring the warning by the captain to not launch the life boats. A majority of the life boats were eaten up by the propellers of the ship, killing almost all on board.
Edit: It was the Britannic, not the Olympic. Olympic never sank.
Which Olympic?
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 I got the ships wrong, it was actually the Britannic. Gonna update my original post.
Dude this is a great video, my father who was in the navy in the US and then went back to our country (Honduras) to do his service, had actually meet this captain before, as he watch the original video he told me that while working with Schettino he constantly wanted to break the chain of command, and funny enough also wanted to go faster, because as you can see that was one of the many reason this mess happened in the first place.
Ha ha, no way, that's a great story, thank you for sharing it!
I've watched Internet Historians video a bunch of times and yet, as Vince draws attention to how drastic that original speed is, I only really just thought about something now....
Going from ~16 knots to 8 knots in a couple of seconds.
by Cthulhu's balls, you'd feel that like a kick in the kidneys.
"Cthulhu's balls" lol
@@star22sally67 are we sure he even has those
Could be a she for all we know
@@anarchomando7707 well, normally I say "By Cthulhu's salt-crusted taint", but I'm never certain if that's comment-section-friendly.
@@kentonbaird1723 Based and dreadpilled.
cutting open 53 meters of underwater hull is no joke...
i hope the rock is ok
Having seen the original video, you did great at explaining the details that much further. You do a great job with your videos, and can’t wait to watch more.
My, thank you for the warm comments. That truly motivates me to produce more.
I’m so glad I found this
I am also glad you ended up here.
Amateur boat builder here: my family and I tend to christen the ship in a way that only breaks the top of the bottle, so we can save *some* for the glasses
And risk ingesting some of the small shards?
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 I'm sure you could just sift it first.
"no exception, you can blow your horn when you are is distress. And they are obviously not in distress here"
...yet.
“You can’t tow a ship that is sinking.” - SailorVince, 2021
Me, at the start time of the video:
"I'm sure IH didn't exaggerate *that* much, but still, good to know what he did."
Me, 12 minutes in:
"This is already even worse then he made it out to be"
The more you dive into it, the more absurd this story becomes.
Vince: *smiles and laughs and makes calm observations throughout the video*
Me: "Huh, seems to be going pretty well so far."
"Increase the speed to 16 knots"
Vince: *visible panic*
Me: "...That's not good, then??"
I'm a big fan of this trend of "expert reacts to video covering their field". Good eats. Nice video 👍
Well, coming from someone who loves that kind of content, I appreciate the compliment!
This isn’t what I expected to get in my recommendations today, but honestly? This is probably the most interesting video I’ve watched all week
Nice, glad you liked it!
23:10
Communications here. I can say that if the coffee isn't on the emergency system, people might be killed on the bridge, or anywhere else for that matter!
Coffee is life... Coffee is love.
really enjoyed the insights you brought to this vid, especially regarding how communications on the bridge are "supposed" to go compared to the concordia crash
Nice! Thank you very much for the comment, it means a lot to me.
Good on Pietro Mele for scrambling things fast and getting up and moving from being asleep. Not sure iffn’ I’m a distant relation, I’m American, but I reserve the right to feel proud of a man who shares my last name and acted to save lives in this situation.
You're an incredible creator. I'm honestly disappointed that it ended when it did! Great work, dude!
Thank you so much, I am never lacking any motivation with comments such as these.
Not the reaction I was looking for but man I'm glad I found this video.
The extra context when it comes to maritime practices and standard protocol genuinely adds to IH's video.
Overall, good work on the video mate. 👍👍
Thank you, you are too kind!
I still crack up at the ship sailing underneath a friggin ladder. =D
I didn't intend to watch the whole video (not right now at least), but I'm finding it hard to stop watching. Your commentary is so to the point and interesting, well made video my man!
Excellent, I am glad I was able to keep your interest to the end ;)
Dude, your facial expressions when hearing key issues with the people's involved is amazing. It is great to hear reactions from those who know their stuff. I know the feeling when I watch botched medical procedures.
I honestly dont usually watch reaction videos of any kind but my love for IH made me click, watched the whole video and have to say it was brilliant. Refreshing to see someone with a clear background in the subject analysing a video rather than just watching it. The long and short of it is, subscribed!
Glad to hear it, welcome aboard!
The way you talk and your accent reminds me of my french canadian uncle who is also a sailor. He always had a great story lol.
Great video and cool to have your perspective
Thank you! Very glad you enjoyed it!
Just hearing your disappointment gradually increase over this fiasco is hilarious but painful rip
I'm not a navigator, but it's something seeing you react to this disaster
People like u need to exist more
And I am sure that the world would benefit from more people like you who gives such warm comments ;)
@@sailorvince6442 Wow...that was an amazing response back. Damn man
@@Not-Batman He seems like such a nice guy!
15:15 Point of order! The ship kept its *kinetic* energy, or more relevantly in this case, its (linear) momentum. If you're not on a combat vessel in a war, or maybe an oil tanker or something, you probably don't have to worry too much about the potential energy of your ship at sea.
See this is good reaction content. Someone reacting to something they have high levels of knowledge on and adding to it. Fantastic stuff
Thank you so much, I feel very privileged to be able to use my knowledge to make this kind of content.
Good stuffs, Vince. It's nice to see someone with actual experience in the fields knowing what IH is talking about and shares his own knowledge about it.
Thank you so much for the warm comment!
Very nice assessment. I watched this tragedy along with the rest of the world as it happened. And, I followed the trial and the eventual removal of the ship from the coast. Yes, a series of mistakes that were almost totally preventable. The lucky parts were the proximity to shore, how the local coast guard stepped in, how the passengers behaved in an emergency and the warmer weather. Had this been farther out and cold, the loss of life would have been even more tragic.
Ideed, it could have been so much worst.
Hey Vince, I came here from Internet Historian's Q&A video. I really liked your reaction and your insight was very interesting! Thanks for your service for our country. Coast guard is awesome. 🇨🇦🇨🇦
Thank you very much, it was my honor to work for our country.
This was a really interesting video to watch. I always love seeing these "behind the curtain" style perspectives on things like this. Really fascinating.
Also, seeing your face light up when De Falco showed up on screen was glorious
Thank you, I am really glad you liked it. And yes, the man is a legend!
My dad was quite a senior officer in the Royal Air Force when I was young, at the time the RAF had a number of coastal patrol ships, anyway he ended up having to chair a court marshal when one of the ships sank in a harbour while tied up!
.....WHAT? How?!
What on god's earth did the guy(s) do to sink a ship IN PORT? How do you even do that?
It's a long time ago now 40 years or so.... but as I recall... as it was tying down(or whatever the naval term for that would be)the ship suddenly entered full reverse and rammed into the ferry that was docked right behind her.. the trial was all about how that all happened...It must have been right before they where disbanded
As an Entertainment Technician who installs systems, it's very likely the Entertainment controls were on a Battery Backup UPS to keep the computers running if there was a loss of power. So it's possible they were designed to remain on.
I have also heard of some systems where the PA is part of the life safety systems for Alarms, so if done to code and spec, it's entirely possible they were setup to run even on loss of Main Power, without being connected to Emergency power.
Of course, allowing the music to keep playing while the system is on emergency power is likely an over sight that the programmer didn't account for. Once the Public Address could stomp over normal audio, they called it a job well done.
They probably should have put in more control logic to stop all normal functions once the UPS lost mains power.
19:35 for the emergency panel.
In the q&a, IH mentioned that the compartment that hold the emergency panel was also flooded, so the power was from the battery instead.
And in about 19:49, you can see compartment 5 being flooded, the *first* one to be flooded especially. The same compartment where the emergency panel was located.
So the ship was also screwed there but luckily they had the battery.
Vince: "you can't blow your wistle randmly [...] unless it is a distress situation, which it is not."
Me: yet.
I've got no idea how this got recommended to me, but you got yourself a new subscriber, great work
Fantastic, welcome aboard!
“Fan boy” “Coast guard” 🤣😂 your awesome
Usually I don't like reactions videos (they are one of the lowest form of content), the only exception is when real professionals give there opinion on Interesting topics in a concisely and funny way
It's really nice to hear a perspective from someone who was there
This is my favorite type of reaction content. He’s not just putting his input in like haha funny but he’s actually adding interesting information and discussing related topics and such.
Your input was fantastic, and added a whole new depth to this video that I have seen several times. I’m really happy Internet Historian was able to get in touch with you.
Fantastic video! Not just a boring reaction video, but one where you added to it so much with your experience. Thank you!
The format, amazing disposition, great information, and great voice have all earned you a new sub and a like. Keep up the good work!
Wow, you are too kind! Thank you so much!
10:53
Isn't the entire point of a sail by salute to slowly make your way by where ever you're passing by and make a spectacle of the ship? So what good is that when you're cruising at a pretty brisk 16 knots? It's like trying to show of your car on the street to people on the sidewalk... and then barrelling down the road at 90 MPH. Kinda defeats the purpose of what you're doing, doesn't it? ...So this captain couldn't even do an illegal showboating (ha. pun.) correctly. What a terrible captain.
Not the best metaphor considering the thing folks who want to show off their fancy cars for is their speed... But yes, can't even do the wrong things right.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC guess he meant the ones people show of for their looks. Like a Bentley or an Aston Martin
No matter how many times I revisit this, I still appreciate the pause to do some research real quick to double check on the information you've been presented. It's great to see it.
awesome reaction!! glad u were able to explain how each mistake lead to the downfall and how each choice counted, thats so crazy, new fan!
Oh man, this video was AWESOME. I loved how you explained things alongside the video, thank you!!
I am really glad you liked it!
Absolutely loved your commentary! I’m happy to stumble across your work!
Thank you, so glad you liked it!
It was nice rewatching this with professional insight. Never heard of you but I'm glad you're one of the very few who knows how to make a good reaction video
I watched and loved the original...this is FASCINATING and I am so grateful to you for sharing your knowledge and insight on this topic!
This should be an official companion piece. It was great getting a professional take on both the original video and the events it covered.
Very insightful video. Thank you for your perspective! Will be waiting for the next one.
It was my pleasure, I am very glad you liked it. The next one should come out in a few days.
I absolutely love how Vince just looses his shit when he hears they are going 16 knots close to shore xD
2:56 - I mean, why don't they just drink it instead?
Simple - the first sip goes to the ship. And she's biiig, so she downs the whole bottle.
Great video! Love your insightful commentary, would definitely love a part 2!
It was my pleasure. And part 2 is available now ;)
This is not just react! This add so much information to the original video! Good job! Subbed
This was a fun watch, your input genuinely added on to an already great video. See you next video!
Ho man, thanks for the kind comments.
Love this insight into being a crew member of a ship! It's really cool to know exactly what went wrong and why.
Easily the best reaction video ive seen. This was done perfectly
Thank you so much! I am really glad you liked it!
I’m not a big naval guy, so this will probably be the only one I watch, but what a chill dude.
Hope you’re having a great year!
Outstanding video all around, thank your for sharing your perspective !
Big Internet Historian fan, and I really enjoyed your review and insight, man! Great video!
Thanks, super glad you liked it!
I like your style of reaction videos. You don't talk over the video and you pause it when you have something to say, which is always something informative and actually worth hearing.
Thanks for your videos. Very informative, efficient, kept short. Everything focused on the essentials. Very well done. Hang on buddy. I wish there were more people like you.
I'm so glad i got ure vid in my recommended, can't wait for u to react to the 2nd half, now i'm gonna watch ure other vids in the meantime :D
Glad to hear it! Welcome aboard.