Craftsman GunMetal vs Craftsman USA vs Craftsman China vs Harbor Freight ratchet Torture Test
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- Craftsman GunMetal vs Craftsman USA vs Craftsman China vs Harbor Freight ratchet Torture Test - Have to see to believe who Wins!
Craftsman USA 1/4" Ratchet (VK-44807)
Craftsman China 1/4" Ratchet CMMT99324
Craftsman Taiwan 1/4" Ratchet (GunMetal 82-010 GM)
Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Pro 1/4" Composite Ratchet (62619) - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Remember, choose the right tool for the Job and as always work smarter not harder!
Have you tried the kolbolt.
You should have used the cheater bar for all the test. Keep them the same.
Was the gunmetal ratchet 120 position?
This video was a very pivotal point. Wasn’t it?
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The differences in strength seem negligible to me. Essentially I think it comes down to feel and comfort and features offered that separates tools today. Fit and finish as well. Because the truth is that most everything made today is gonna do the job and last.
Let's give it up for the adapter. No failure what's so ever.
Domingo Meza adapters never break reducers always break remember that rule of thumb
I've broken both. 1/4 to 3/8, 3/8 to 1/2, and plenty of 3/8 to 1/4
Should’ve been smoother with the cheater bar. Jerking on it will cause extra stress that can’t be exactly duplicated for each test.
Treat it like you’re using a torque wrench. Steadily increasing until you hear a click or in this case something breaks.
Totally agree, I had some garage only language with my 14yr old when I reviewed the footage especially the Gunmetal double pump.
wow, just made pretty much the same comment, then i saw this, and was surprised to see that this video was 2 years old!
My thoughts are know when to use a breaker bar or a 1/2” ratchet
Did you really have to kill that classic made in the USA Craftsman?
there trash anyways haha
Budget Tech, dude, you can't even type English :/
I thought the same thing...... but those were garbage. The handle sucks so bad.
Wouldn’t have lasted long anyway. Craftsman has never been the best quality. It just had a good warranty and great marketing.
@@travisvanalst4698 false, the made in the USA sockets were very good quality
All of those numbers seem fair. The issue I have is that ANSI standard is 37.5 for 1/4 drive ratchets, and as seen here, you can pass that by hand quite easily (approx 45). It is my belief that the manufacturers should attempt to double the standard, making the rating goal of 75. The ratchets you tested seem to at least come close to my expectations, best being 69.7 (or 70). I wonder at what point damage happens to the ratchets... you took those ratchets to failure quickly capturing only the peak torque at the break point, which is not really so accurate. At what point does the ratchet start its failure process? That is the point that it will fail you in use.
I would like to see a non-composite Pittsburgh. But it will probably be the same. The biggest problem with a test like this is that you are only testing one ratchet from each type. It gives you an idea, but it doesn't tell you the standard deviation. They could all be the same and within each standard deviation. One thing to note is that without the cheater bar, you had a hard time going over 45 ft-lbs. Good video.
Anything over 30ft-lbs its time to switch to either a long handle or better yet a 3/8” drive ratchet. I’m hoping to get all the HF ratchets tested. I believe a tooth broke and then striped out the pawl on the HF
@@ClientGraphics Can't wait to see the future videos.
I think the non composite uses the same guts.
120 tooth ratchets are never as strong as the lower teeth count so I’d say the gunmetal was damn solid. For what it’s worth, I really like the Taiwanese Craftsman stuff. It’s damn solid for the price and easier to get than Gearwrench. Great for building trail toolboxes or when I want a set of wrenches/ratchets to abuse.
120 position. Not tooth.
120 teeth is what makes 120 positions. Smh
Ratchets were never Craftsman’s strength, at least they were affordable and made in the US. I’ve got some of the old round head fine tooth craftsman ratchets and they are wayyy better than the teardrop versions.
I really like the recent torture testing of ratchets but I would like to see the regular 1/4" ratchet from harbor freight that isn't composite and how the professional one that isn't quick release will do.
on the last one it looked like he was jerking the cheater bar. probably skewed teh results. the top 2 were pretty much the same, all 3 craftsman had the same failure mode. i would say all of the craftsman were pretty much exactly the same with one showing lower breaking point due to the jerking of the bar. and i would say that it is a well engineered tool, as they made the handle too short to put enough torque into it to break it, unlike the hf.
They all did well. Held to nearly double what can be done by hand. The deciding factor for me at this size is how smooth the action is.
Pretty cool that you have your boy in the shop with you breaking shit. Right on man. Teach them young.
Thanks Zach! I usually have one tagging a long and the older one I made warranty out the ratchets since he was the one breaking them.
It would be nice to include some backstory here..... Craftsman was always just a marketing name by SEARS so they just outsourced from many different companies over the decades but for sockets and ratchets they were mostly made in USA by EASTCO in Maryland later after SEARS ended their dealings and switch over to TTI around 2010 (YES the TTI that owns Ryobi, Milwaukee, HEART etc) it lead to EASTCO going in to deep trouble and they had a number of mergers and buyouts and it's ghost is now owned by APEX TOOLS. The new Craftsman stuff is of course made by Stanley which at least is the actual tool maker themselves so for the first time Craftsman is actually no longer just a marketing name but owned by the tool maker directly so big thumbs up for that.
You should do the Pittsburgh pro "non" quick release ratchet
Gunna have to agree with the majority here,you would never use a 1/4 ratchet to do a 3/8's or 1/2"s job why would you try to remove you cars lug nuts with a 1/4" ratchet with a reducer/adapter socket?
Pretty sure he was demonstrating their durability. Not suggesting you should be doing 70ft/lb of torque with them.
You should do the same type of test with some Craftsman 1/4" sockets to see if there are big differences between them and other brands. I have wanted to do it myself, but I hate destroying things even though when I worked for the Sears Home office I could get sockets pretty inexpensively
China stepped up their game..wow👍
I would love to see how Hilti, Bosch and McMaster Carr ratchets handle your testing!!
Can't wait to see results. Currently am on the fence if I should warranty my broken USA Craftsman ratchet.
This was a torture test. In the real world though, maximum torque failure doesn't mean a damn thing. In the real world, a respectable working mechanic would have recognized he was pushing his tool beyond normal working specs and would have immediately stopped, to prevent bodily injury and possible damage to client vehicle, to reassess and proceed accordingly. There is always the correct way and the lazy idiot's way. All those tools lasted well beyond normal operating specs, therefore, the best of the lot would have to be the least expensive one. I want to know the brand of the socket he was using. That's the real test. I thought the socket would have been the weak link. I was expecting a knuckle-busting rounding of the socket but it bit and hung on throughout the test. Very well done ClientGraphics.
Do the same test using Snap-on, Matco and such higher priced 1/4 drive ratchets and refer back to this test as to how well those do.
dannyo66 well,...17 years so far using Snap-On products on the flight line working on F-16’s and AGE,....snap on isn’t what people think. They break every day.
@@Thamac15 I like Proto myself.
I've never broke a tool in my life, in the real world you would never put that much torque on a 1/4 " ratchet so really it's not a good test. Do the same test with a 3/8 and a 1/2 drive ratchet, those sizes are made for that kind of torque.
3/8" test is being done tonight and sould have that in the next few days. 1/2" drive should exceed the max of the Quinn digital torque meter from Harbor Freight but we shall see in the next video.
Yes and too bad for the usa made craftsman. The rebuild kits are harder and harder to find. You sir just messed up a good piece of American history lol
I disagree. Seeing the max torque still proves the ultimate strength and durability of the tool. Even pushing the tool a bit beyond the normal use indicates how the tool will wear during typical use.
Mike M was thinking the same thing they broke a American v series craftsman for no reason other than bad science
I’ve got a 5 gallon bucket of USA raised panel ratchets. They’re better than the imported ones, but they still suck. Lol
LOL you got your little guy in on taking tools to task, awesome work Dad! 😎
Like the video, I have a ton of Craftsman products I own and use!
I have some of the new craftsman ratchets and they hold up pretty good with a cheater bar I use sometimes lol so this actually surprised me a little
What’d you do with the broken USA made rachet ? Did you have to fix it your self ?
1/4 inch is for small and space limited tasks. I never would subject my tools to any where near these torques. Whats more important to me is the low back drag of the H.F. ratchets.
I have one of those composite Pittsburgh 1/4" that I have traveled around the world with, it works and is light (helps keep the luggage weight down too)! I just use it for light duty stuff on IT/Comm equipment but it hasn't failed and works incredibly well for the price point. My got to 1/4" in my home box is a Matco 88 I can't stand those coarse tooth Craftsmans.
Wish there was a test on the smoothest ratchet on back swing, I've found even the biggest junks hold up on reasonable intended torque
They hold up because they have to meet a spec. It isnt much but that much torque shouldnt be applied to them. AvE has a stress test and he tests backdraw
I still think the gunmetal ratchets are well worth the extra cost over the Chinese ones, the fit and finish along with tooth count are really nice for the price point they occupy. I've put my 3/8 through hell and the gunmetal sockets held up fine for light impact wrench use (not at all recommended though)
Also I got a kit with the 72 tooth ratchets of the same style and the labels say made in Taiwan
Taiwan is the roc . Republic of china. Made in Taiwan means made in china.
Taiwan makes better things than China. I prefer my chips and electronics to be made in Taiwan. Higher quality standards than China.
Idk bro it's not a good test on a half inch 1/2 drive yes I'd see reasoning to test to these measures but 3/8 and 1/4 drives naw if you know your going to give it more torque than necessary switch to a bigger drive. I think that's a rule of thumb everyone knows
I was looking everywhere for this video, thanks! Would just like to have seen a husky thrown into here too
Sorry buddy. It was all about the Craftsman. I'll have a Dewalt 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 in the next week and an ICON one soon.
Before the torque test it would have been nice if you just compared how each one looks and feels, and how tight and firm the switch mechanism was, how tight or loose the socket is held in place... etc. etc.etc.
Those Chinese Craftsman ratchets ain't no joke. They are very good ratchets.
1/4 inch quick release ratchets did quite well. Broke at the obvious weak point. QR means a good size hole in the anvil. Not much thickness to the remaining metal.
Definitely amazed me. I would've never believed the China wrench would score well. I was sure the USA-made craftsman would've skunked the others. BTW, where in the world did you get a new USA-made Craftsman socket wrench?? I was under the impression they haven't been made in the USA for quite some time.
They haven't been, but new old stock does appear on ebay now and again
That generation of craftsman USA ratchet is horrible. After some use they slip super easy.
You should do a video on warranting them out next
HF was too busy yesterday and they swapped it out so quickly I couldn't even video it. They were like okay, thanks and bye. One I swapped out with at Ace Hardware, not sure how the video turned out, haven't checked it yet. No promises on the others, but I will see if I have time.
How about a video of throwing them in the trash or recycle bin since they were abused?
Why would he do that? It's a simple test of tools that are under warranty. They were used for their intended purpose and failed. Boom! Covered.
Overseas factories can make whatever you want to whatever specs companies give them. Generally if the product is crap, or weak, it’s cause that’s how the company designed it or the specs they gave the manufacturer. This is in regards to US brands manufacturing overseas, not overseas homegrown products…
I would love to see how a Snap On would have done in that test. Thank you for sharing this
I have over 40 guitars. Some are very expensive USA models. Two of my favorites are Chinese made. I have no issue with Chinese products.
This test proves one thing. Use a cheater pipe on your old Craftsman ratchet to break bolts loose and use your favorite fancy ratchet for rest of your job. I thought gun metal version would do better.
Fortunately, if it's a craftsman, no matter where it's made if it breaks it's replaced for free.
There were some flaws to this test. First off you broke certain ones fast with me the cheater bar and broke other ones slower with my the cheater bar. This can cause some major differences. Should have just slowly broke them with my the cheater bar from the beginning instead of using some more than others then expecting them to have a valid test
I also have a 3/8 craftsman ratchet that I’ve put through the ringer and it still works too and it’s old like 30 plus old
I still have all my old Craftsman stuff that the kids will get to start using here. In a 1 1/2 year I'll have a 16yr old so that means a project car, tools and work! Hopefully
Worthless test. Who puts a cheater bar on a 1/4” ratchet? What did this prove?
The quick release ratchet isn`t as strong as the nonquick release due to the center being hollow.
And Who would even use a 1/4 ratchet like that?
These tests are ridiculous....makes no sense at all.
That was a fun video! I guess I have to say I’m not surprised the Chinese one was the strongest. I know they make cheap things but every once in a while they get something right. Lol great video!
Thanks for making a guess, GunMetal 3/8 video hopefully in the next 24-48hrs.
ClientGraphics can’t wait!
I just today warranty returned two 1/4 drive USA ratchets I've had since1990 for two China ones. They were both slipping.
I'm now sad. At least they work now.
Great video! But How about some safety glasses? Especially for the kid....
Good test video....but noooo....not the u.s.a craftsman...why you have to kill that one....
Wasn’t initially planing on it, but I have 2 more USA ones and the one that made the sacrifice did a fine job with amazing reading. You could add in margin of error and it’s always a Winner in my book!
@@ClientGraphics wonder if a rebuild kit is available for the USA one
ClientGraphics rebuild kits for those USA- made Craftsman ratchets are a $10-$15 purchase on eBay. I rebuilt both of my 3/8” drive ratchets. I’ve had them both for almost twenty years. I’ve used both ratchets dozens of times. They weren’t stripped or broken, I just reckoned to put fresh innards in ‘em.
Can you do test on 12 vs 6 points wrench please? Im curious about the myth that 12pts will round the bolt head.
I figured the HF was going to win.
That was my guess as well🤫, but when it failed under full stress without a cheater bar I was both impressed and disappointed at the same time.
Now the natural follow up video: who had the most hassle free return policy lol
@@ClientGraphics maybe ICON vs SnapOn
We had an argument with my friend about this issue, the ratchet before the break, which is made in the USA, is not the same as the pipe you installed. There's a trick here
Wow good catch. Yah it looks different because it was a different one but it still was a USA one. I actually had two Craftsman USA 1/4” ratchets they both failed nearly identical and it looks like I mixed up the footage between the two.
Why did you pick the composite only? They make multiple ratchets.
I like the craftsman sets but I’ve broken two ratchets already from the USA set. Should’ve just gone for the gunmetal it looks cooler
If the drive breaks off not really a failure when they all break around the same foot pounds. It's a 1/2 inch drive
Went to sears a couple weeks back, exchanges a 1/4 and 3/8 broken craftsmans i had. The junk they exchanged for them were the worst rachets i have ever seen or used, lock up while using or just switch directions, the first ones lasted 20 plus years, being hit, standing weight all kinds of torture. Thess cant make it a week
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Any one of those ratchet are serviceable for a long time. I have a 1/4 Craftsman raised panel bought in 1992 that still see regular use . and several other 1/4 ratchet.
I doubt any of my 1/4 inch ratchet ever see more than 20 foot pound when tightening with just my wrist.
After the this test . I'm thinking of buying a set of those Polymer ratchet just as throw around go anywhere ratchet. It would not hurt my feeling when those polymer ratchet get slide across concrete floor to my garage repair buddy . :)
Well done test just to see the limits of each ratchet, hurt a little to see a made in U.S.A. Craftsman ratchet destroyed. I wonder if B&D would honor the warranty on those ratchets.
It was like pulling teeth, but they were all warranty swapped.
@@ClientGraphics
It’s easier now to replace it
Those torque adaptors aren't too expensive and accuracy is unbeatable. The one he has is a Harbor Freight, $29.99 full price.
that seams to be the place they all fail at i have a black stanley that broke in the same spot
Nice But what about Kobalt 337308 I bet it would not bust and the S-K 42470. They are tough and heavy headed. Like to see a battle or torture test My money is on these two.
Tool abuse!
Ok. Buy harbor freight and save the rest of your money for beer. Why would you go over 20-30lbs with a 1/4 ratchet to begin with???
NO! He broke the USA version ...........
Test performance tool and atd
try a Craftsman EE series?
Anyone that puts a cheater bar on a 1/4 ratchet needs their head examined anyways.........All the ratchets performed like they were made to........
A steady and smoother pull woulda been better then the yanking and jerking motions used.
They all did fine unless you try to break loose some stubborn lug nuts or head bolts.
They are all good,non broke w/o cheaterpipe, in my opinion.
Let me correct myself if the ratchets were older they may have been made here anything new since Sears closed it made in Asia
What's impressive is you don't know the difference between lb/ft and ft/lb.
I don't this it's a fair test to use the composite ratchet from HF because it's intentionally made lighter.
I will never know ! If I have to go to a cheater bar, I step up to a bigger tool, all my cheep tools are 30, 40,50 years old and still going strong, the biggest problem I have with tool needing to be replaced is from them being stolen or barrowed and not returned .
Would like to see a hydraulic, or pneumatic testing method. Just to take human error out of the equation.
I don’t see any of these is winning.😂
But its craftsman, go to Lowe’s and get a replacement free
Chinese ones feel good. I felt them all at ace and it feels stronger/heavier and nice sound
Did you return for warranty? Shame breaking up good USA tools
For the older USA made ratchets rebuild kits are still available, though I'm not sure if they include the lug mechanism. Otherwise, the warranty replacement ratchet you get by returning it will either be made in China or Taiwan... it's a damned shame. I've still got the same 86pc boxed set of Craftsman sockets & ratchets I bought when I got my first car in 1990 - never given me a bit of trouble.
Let's see a fair test and do about 10 of each to get a good average
The crowd is right on because different metal have different alloys in them that make tensile strength stronger so why would You use different Stress levels or apply pressure in different ways. I'm not going to do My Craftsman U.S.A- VN 44809 or My Gun Metal 82-012 GM. 38 or Pittsburg CRV that way with a cheater buster bar. Just to get someone to watch You destroy expensive toys up. It's People wishing they had them toys or heading to the hardware store to purchase them.
Pull smoother
Buy a good breaker bar. Don’t be lazy.
How many teeth/positions did the winner have?
I weigh about 195 and have hung off of my 1/4 matco ratchet just to see if it would fail and it’s still going strong
Nice, I don't have any Matco stuff. Never really seen one in our area otherwise I would have at least a few things.
I’ve chained my Matco 30” breaker bar to a tractor to remove some trailer lug nuts, the studs broke wouldn’t you know it.
A 4" long wrench with 195 pounds on it is only 65 foot pounds.
Having to use Craftsman is the real torture.
🤘🏻 🌟 🤘
In all fairness the test should have been done first without the cheater bar, and then the cheater bar on all the different ratchets.
It doesn't matter if it's made in USA or China , What matters is quality control .. The Chinese junk with no quality control will have wire or hoses passing thru holes in metal with no rubber grommet or wire loom ..
I'd still take the Craftsman USA ratchet
I don’t really see this test as very valid at all because of the fact not all of them used a cheater bar and didn’t have the same pull, notice your kids jerky pulls on the craftsman ratchets
So the moral is don't buy crapsman or harbor freight ratchets?
1/4 SNAP-ON rachet, 102.08 # before failer.
Whenever discussing numbers, don't just talk, show a spreadsheet comparison.
Did any of the teeth fail on any of the wrenches?
They rounded off on the Pittsburgh Pro vs the others shearing off at the anvil.
69 ft/lb for the Chinese-made Craftsman. Nice.
So none of these could do 100 lbs-ft for lug nuts???
Should probably use 1/2” drive for lug nuts and not the smallest if size that we showcased in this video which was 1/4”
@@ClientGraphics I was just being hypothetical
@@ClientGraphics for lug nuts, a 1/2" breaker is my choice. I've got a Kobalt breaker with an impact socket in my truck for exactly that reason. I also keep a 30" cheater pipe with it because mechanics tend to put the nuts on with stupid high torque wrenches. I bought the Kobalt breaker because the slimmer handle fits into the cheater pipe easier than the craftsman.