Arctic P12 PWM PST Review | The Best Budget 120mm Case Fan?
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00:00 Intro Arctic P12
00:20 CDKoffers AD
01:00 Arctic Introduction
01:30 Arctic P/F Lineup explained
03:00 Arctic P12 PWM PST
05:00 How did we Benchmark
05:50 100% PWM Benchmark
06:50 50% PWM Benchmark
08:00 Could have been better
08:30 Arctic P12 Conclusion
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I have came here randomly, because i needed to see more deep reviews about Artic P12. Your presentation is wonderful, i learned things that i hadn't known. Greetings.
That's Great to hear! I'm glad my review was useful to you!
Great review. I used like a half hour comparing the fan specs and now found this review which explained everything under a minute.
Great to hear! I’m happy you enjoyed it
Great review! Also nice to see Ramzan Kadyrov pursue other interests in his spare time!
Thanks!
Yeah, sometimes you just need a break from politics.
Lol)
I think these fans offer great value. 👍 I replaced some aging Corsair fans in my case with these. So far, so good. Thank you for posting the review.
You're welcome! I'm glad this helped you
Thanks for explaining all the different models!!! Love it!
Thanks for the review. Really gave me an idea how this fan will perform under normal load conditions.
Bought one.
You're welcome! I'm sure you'll enjoy it
0:48 Best explainer for those whom are new to Arctic's fan series
Glad it helped :)
Thank you. These seem like they are such good value, it's quite surprising. They also sell economy packs.
I recently bought some Noctua fans thinking they were among the best, but they weren't exactly cheap, even if they were of the redux line.
Appreciate the review. I'm sold!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was looking for a good review for these fans, thank you
Great to hear! I’m glad you enjoyed it :)
Nice review! Nice to see my suggestion, for the price I think they are extremely good and come in a pack so...
Personally i like how they look
Thanks! And also thanks for the suggestion!They are amazing for the price. Personaly, i’m not the biggest RGB Fan (fan), so i’m happy with them.
Next week the P14 video will come out, those are impressive!
I just bought 4 of these, and they're spectacular. Made huge improvements for my temps even with my shitty case that has a nearly solid front panel(it has a slight ventilation on the top corner). Unfortunately, retailers here have 0 stock of the 5 value pack, and the only available ones near me are the white ones with clear blades, but I don't mind it that much. And I can't really say anything about the noise because I don't care for that since I live in a very hot and tropical country, I have a fan turned on all the time anyway.
Arctic really is the best! I've been building computers a long time and haven't seen a better fan. not only that the company is rad cool people and very responsive. I'm personally never going with a different company.
Just got em recently and I love em! Not too loud and a lot better than the old ass stock fans I had on my PC 6 years ago!
It's surprising how stock-looking fans can be that astonishingly good
@@STSYT These actually look less stocky than the stock fans that were in my PC last time.xD
Thank you very much! I didn't find anything like this in the Russian segment about these products. I bought four such fans of the P series for the case, after which I saw the opinion that they were not suitable for such use and was upset. You've calmed me down.
wow this channel is completely underrated
Thanks! Means a lot.
Though it is growing, i’m confident that someday it will be where I want it to be
Thanks for the review! It's a shame the daisy chaining feature isn't more useful, it would make more sense to have the pass through port closer to the fan.
Thanks! Great you enjoyed it
Sure it could be better, in some situations it may be better to have it be longer, or shorter, depending on the build.
But all in all I'm happy that there even is something like that ^^
Found these in a local PC parts shop for $5.5 a piece, what a steal.
Nice, thats even cheaper then directly fron the manufacturer
@@STSYT Yeah I bought four of them for $22. They had a discount because there was probably only a small amount left.
Love your videos bro keep it up
Appreciate it!
Great work on this video
Thanks! Means a lot
Thank you for this great review. I'm going for these fans instead of Noctua and saved some money for a budget build I'm working on.
I have 7 of these P12 PWM PST fans. 6 for my case, and 1 to replace my air cooler's RGB fan. Let me tell you, these aren't quiet at full speed. They will make a low hum similar to that of a lawnmower, but way quieter. They'll also lightly send harmonics through your case if you have quite a few of them. You can't hear them in office noise levels, but if you're in a dead-silent bedroom, you will hear them from about a meter away. This small noise problem, however, can be solved simply by adding a limit to your motherboard's PWM range so they can't run at their full speed (1800 RPM).
Another thing to look out for is their revisions. Apparently, the 2nd revison of this model doesn't have the "0db below 5% PWM" feature while the 3rd revision does. So, look out for that if you want these guys to reach 0 RPM.
I buy this non transparent pwm pst in my country and im suprise its only took 7 bucks, i really came to the yt and leave me speechless... Soo damn unexpected
I'm sure you'll be happy with them!
I got myself 3 P12 and 2 P14 and i had mixed feelings about them right out of the box. They sounded horrible with auto pwm settings since they really do make super annoying sounds at certain rpm ranges. BUT once you tweak them, they are actually really good. i did some testings on all of the pwn ranges i have in 50s steps pretty much on both p12 and p14 to filter those ''avoid'' rpms and then tried how high i can go with the rpm without the fans becoming too loud. And for me and my case the sweetspot for both p12 and p14 is 1300rpm. They push alot of air and they are quiet. If i have my window open, i allready cant hear them anymore at all. And i have them running at 1300 fixed all the time, so they dont ramp up or go lower and get to those avoid ranges, the system now just sounds great and it sounds consistent. Thats the ''drawback'' to me. If you want straight up out of the box fans that you can put to auto pwm and forget about them: go with noctuas or something... the arctics really need some fixed rpm values.
Interessting, we use ours for multiple purposes, some making them spin at 100% right next to my face.
For myself, even 100% pwm is still acceptable noise. Maybee i’m less sensitive to that kind of noise cause I heard soo many fans and know how loud it can be.
But as long as you found you perfect setting :p
@@STSYT czcams.com/video/QwftVMGPOiI/video.html you hear that humming noise in this test very clearly for example. as soon as you raise the rpm again, its basicly gone. its super loud ^^ And yeah, 100% is even a more acceptable noise than 1000rpm or 1200rpm because thats where they humm for me ^^
do u really listen for fans when using pc or do use headphones and dont hear shit anyway
@@isekaibuff6544 if i use the wrong rpm, i can even hear those guys while having headphones on and listening to music way louder than someone should lol. But i m primary a speaker guy, and since my speaker setup costs a few times more than my pc alltogether, i will use them for anything that does not require discord communication and stuff. Imagine you prep your room with accustic panels and stuff to make your room accustics better and then you have some loud fan whine in the background... it basicly kills most of the efford you put in in the first place
I got some upHere fans last June and I think I should've gone with these from the beginning. These blow a lot more air with less or similar noise. Plus, all black option!
It was shocking to me that a well known brand is able to sell Fans cheaper then most "Budget" or Brand-less Fans on Amazon. Yet they still outperform most others
@@STSYT Eh it actually makes a lot of sense. Bigger brands can afford better, more efficient manufacturing on top of mass production which gives them a cheaper cost per unit which means they have more wiggle room in price. Realistically a lot of brands could sell their products for a lot cheaper and they'd do better in terms of sales but they want more and more profit
thanks for test with and without antivibration pads
I love Arctic stuff!! My 5800X3D is being cooled by 5 heat pipe tower cooler and 1 Arctic Bionix F120 fan (yes I know), CPU still doesn't break 75C under gaming loads.
2:00 Thats a lot of fans, but thanks for the explanation.
And wow, that is a good price for an exceptional fan. Shame that I already have a mixture of fans. But thumbs up to Arctic.
Normally, I will never have to test the old fans again. Normalizing the Benchmark was a hard job for the first time but from now on it will always just be 1 set of fans and I'm done :p
Yeah, they are amazing for that price point. The high static pressure even allows for CPU/Radiator usage. We have a video coming in the a couple of weeks where I use Arctic Fans to make a really bad AIO perform somewhat normally.
@@STSYT I went to Arctic's website. Disappointing. The feeling that it gives is that they just want you to buy buy. Yes we know that. But with so many different fans on offer, they do a poor job of explaining the difference between them and why the user should buy one over and above another. I was interested in a TC fan, but after a couple of minutes I gave up.
If Arctic are listening, it is a shame, you can do so much better. Your fans look great.
I get what you mean.
On the ‘buying’-part. It’s unusual for manufacturers to have a presentational website that immidiately provides a buying option. Other manufacturer usually only use third-party’s and retailers. So I don’t really care that there is a ‘buy’ button on every page, but i get that this may come across negatively.
On the explanation part. Oh yeah😅 it was so confusing (especially the TC), that i thought explaining it would be good for the video.I had to open each fan in a seperate tab and compare each ‘feature’ section to find every difference as there is nothing like a list😅
@@STSYT Yes the fact that there is no comparison button/option is a serious oversight when there are so many options.
You’re right, i’m just hoping that i’ve got everything right
Hope you add noise normalized testing next time, set each fan so that they generate the same noise level and test for temps. Similar to how gamersnexus tests cases and coolers
We're doing that now for CPU coolers and AIOs.
We will probably start doing that for Fans too in the near future, though I first want to find a case with 2x 140mm Spots in the front and 1x in the back. And then of course repeating our benchmarks for every fan we already reviewed ^^
I have 5 P12 mounted on a Thermaltake V100 Case. Would there be improvement in sound and cooling with 3 Be Quiet SW3 140mm and 2 Shadow Wings 2 140mm?
add the BioniX P120 A-RGB , P12 PWM PST A-RGB 0dB and the P12 PWM PST RGB 0dB
their lineup is perfect now, i am ordering either the BioniX 3 fan set or the P12 PWM PST A-RGB 0dB
the BioniX 3 fan set comes with their 15 Euros RGB controller as well, and they offer Lian Li SL120 like daisy chaining for less cables and clutter
it's hard to compete against Arcitc price/performance wise nowadays, i already ordered like 3 of their Arctic Freezer II 360 and wow the best CLC for the price hands down, pretty sure they will release a newer version with their RGB fans because why not lol
As soon as I can get my hands on them, yes. Though I'm not so sure how good these 0db models perform.
You're probably right. Arctic avoided having RGB on their main lineup for a long time and now they started to fill that gap. There's just no way around a glowing Arctic Freezer :p
Perfect video. Tks fron Brazil!
Glad it helped!
They have an RGB model available now to add to their long list of fans.
Yep, the BioniX P120 ARGB and P12 ARGB, both have already ben reviewed, Videos will be coming in the next weeks :)
Is it okay to use the Arctic P12 for intake and exhaust fans in a pc case (with dust filters) or would it be better to use P12 for intake and F12 for exhaust?
So the P12 line is good for pressure through a radiator and the F12 line or airflow fans are better for just plane case fans?
I have my desktop next to me on my desk. I currently have a P400A PC case so it does have a nice airflow and so I don't even need to ramp up the fans. In fact, my current CPU temp sits around 33 degrees and that's with the Arctic Esport Duo. I currently have the Arctic p12 PWM in my case all running at 650rpm and I don't hear it. If I run it at 50% 1100rmp it still doesn't make a sound. At 75% which is 1500rpm, you get a light whistle which is somewhat annoying. At 100% hitting around 1860rpm, I can honestly say it does sound like a small jet engine. But realistically speaking even in summer the PC just stays quiet all the time, the temps don't even increase and the fans never seem to ramp up to high levels. My friend spent a lot of money on his PC and it's super high-end compared to mine since I went for the budget route, but even he admitted that my Arctic fans are no different to his Noctuas. Even my Arctic Esports Duo performance is just as good as his Noctua NH D15 even in noise levels and cooling. Price to performance the Arctic fans perform extremely well and I am honestly pleased with them.
Thanks for great review. So if I would like to buy two fans for my case (for front) should I buy one be PST and one standard psw or should both be psw pst?
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
I would get the PWM PST's. You may not immediately need them to be PST, but it definitely comes in handy.
The value of these fans is the best possible you can find. I could pay almost twice as much and still think it is a great deal
Thanks for the video. How long are the fan cables? Can't seem to find that information anywhere.
I quickly measured them.
From Fan to Connector, its around 38cm.
Then you have 5cm to the additional Daisy-chain header.
I hope this helps
They are great fans, especially for the price. I put my case full of them for 6 euros a piece.
Nice
Hey man in your last video you said Rtx 3070 is like 1000€ in your country. May I ask in wich country are you in??
Hello does arctic p12 daisy chain work with different brand fan?, I have a deepcool fan 4 pin, I plan to put it to cpu cooler for push and pull config.
Hi! Great video! I am considering these fans as replacement for my Corsair H80i V2 liquid cooler, but watching your video now my concern is that the cable is too short to reach from the back of my case, to the front of the motherboard, which is where the fan connectors are; Could you please tell me the exact length of the cable? Thank you!
Thanks! Great to hear that you enjoyed it!
I checked, for the P12 PWM PST, the main cable is 40cm long. The PWM extension/splitter is 5cm longer
@@STSYT Thank you kindly! 40cm will be long enough. Cheers!
3:56 lol 😂
Hi, Could you compare the P12 PWM PST with the CO version, which has double ball bearings?
I understand that FDB fans break down sooner if they are vertically mounted, whereas those with ball bearings can be in any position.
Another one that I would be interested to see in the comparison is the corsair ML120, the ones that come in a pack of 2 fans, without RGB.
Because of the "magnetic levitation" and what they say is better than FDB or BB. I have them in my case but I am thinking of changing them for the Arctic P12 or P120.
The ML120 are 2400rpm, I think they are more suitable for CPU than for case, 1800rpm seems a bit fair for CPU.
I have 4 of 120mm and 2 of 140mm, and if I don't configure the PWM correctly ... the tower takes off to the ceiling ...
I put the ML120 on my todo list.
For the PWM PST vs CO review, I doubt that this one is going to be made. The only difference I could concentrate on that one would be noise difference, and that's just not enough for a whole video.
Thx
Good video! I kept hearing PVM fan with that accent. What country are you from?
Thanks! haha yes, we are from Luxembourg and if you speak German PVM just makes more sense then PWM
Is possible to conect pst arctic fan (3000 RPM) with Bequiet fan (1900 RPM)?
Just got a pair of these to replace my stock front intake fan on my tower... man these absolutely wreck that Foxconn shit-fan, PST is handy too since my stock mobo has only one fan header for the front intake(s)
Just yes, yes to everything
how to measure cfm?
Good info! Luckily they cost 5 bucks in my region.
wow, that would be even cheaper than where the company is based
Took this fan yestarday for 6 euro with 6 year guarantee. The guy that build my PC left it connected to the AIO Pump connection and the fan was working on high RPM and was noticeably loud for my taste. I changed the connection point to the Cahsis Fan 1 and regulated the RPM to be at 20% and I can say I can't hear it is working, first signs of noise I heard was around 35% RPM wich is plenty for my office PC and I plan to leave it on 20%. So in conclusion for 6 euro and low RPM nothing can beat it.
I'm new to buy fans, Can I just get a set of 5 F12 PWM PST and chain all of them and connect them into a single slot on the motherboard?
Doesn't arctic f12 come in a white blade and black case variant too?
Damn, you're right. But the P doesn't, that probably why I missed it
My old NF f12 had an annoying tin like him to them like yours does..my NF a12 don't have that hum... but if I knew then what I know now I'll just buy 4 p12 for rad fans
Neither NF F or A are bad fans. Relly good compared to most stuff. P12s are just less expensive and can keep up with the performance
Without pads there is a background noise which is kinda wavy
Weird, i didn’t have any annoying sound
can i use this fan with my cpu cooler? cause my original cpu cooler fan is only standard rgb
Yes, this will do fine
how long is the connector cable exactly in cm?
40 if I remember correctly
Could you test Artic P12 vs Artic F12 ?
that would be great
It's on my list. Though I don't think that there would be enough content for a whole video considering that I don't repeat what I said here.
Would it be interesting to make a video about comparing all of the 120mm Arctic Fans directly to each other? (F/P/BioniX, Including Sub-versions like Silent/Slim)
Which do you recommend for a case fan?
If you can go with 140mm fans Arctic P14
If you can only fit 120’s Arctic P12.
Until now i have not reviewed better fans regarding performance and price/perf
Of course both in pwm pst edition
@@STSYT cool thank you.
@射進肚臍 powe sharing technologie.
Basicly just a splitter. If you have one you don’t need it. But I find it convinient to use the one on the fan
Hi Everyone, how many of these could I daisy chain together on a single MBO Fan socket
Depends on the header. Usually, 3 is always safe.
*personal experience, I had 6-7 of them running on a single one for months without issues. But 3 is best
@@STSYT Thanks for letting me know!
MSVCP140_1.dll issue! Please make a video on it!
Please help me! I beg you
I Also watched the whole add btw
Just Google it 🤦🏻
Congratulations, you've commented on so many of my videos that I've decided to quickly upload the DLL to the Website.
A tutorial will come on the STS-Tutorial Channel, but it's due sometime in May 2021.
Until then: www.sts-tutorial.com/download/msvcp140_1
The Steps to install the files are on the Site, if you want a Video Tutorial, just follow the MSVCP140.dll Tutorial, it's 1-1 the same thing.
Really comprehensive review. Thanks because I wasn't going to test and record all this but I was curious.
I put 3 of these in the front of a corsair 4000D air flow and it stays cool and quiet with a manual fan curve. They stay between 30% and 80% depending on CPU/GPU temps. Since adding the manual fan curve instead of the motherboard's default loud% my room became so quiet that it's actually kind of difficult to get used to. Years of sleeping near a PC with the fans being a constant ambient noise became my normal.
Thanks for the video!
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I don't know about PCs, so I kindly ask your assistance on this matter, please.
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My intention is to build:
- 2 140mm fans (front)
- 1 120mm fan (rear) - NO ROOM FOR 140mm ON THE REAR.
-1 140mm fan (top)
My PC case: Corsair 4000D airflow.
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No radiator, just a CPU cooler to add to this fan setup.
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Would you please suggest me about:
- should I use a PST fan or just PWM is OK? (I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PST MEANS! Did not even understand what PST is for!).
- about F and P series. What is the real difference in the use? Should I mix in my configuration F and P? If so, COULD YOU PLEASE let me know where to use F and where to use P in my build?
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Thanks, once again.
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Cheers from Rio de Janeiro!
Subscribed, of course!!!
You're welcome :)
Okay so, PST is that little splitter cable that is attached to the Fans PWM cable. This allows you to connect one fan to the other, which end up with multiple fans running on a single Fan header.
You don't really need it, though I would highly suggest it as it makes thinks way easier to install and control later on.
For the F and P Series, as said in the video, the Fs are more airflow focused while the Ps have a higher static pressure.
This basically means that the Ps are better at getting air though stuff like radiators. But this doesn't stop here, Static pressure is also good to have if you have a Dust filter or something like a Mesh grid going on.
We are currently making the reviews on the F12s and F14s, but these videos are not ready yet. But to jump a bit ahead, I would recommend to go with the P12s and P14s in your particular case.
I would take 3xP14 PWM PST and 1x P12 PWM PST. Then I would use the PST system to connect the 2x Front Fans on one header, and the Top and Back Fan on another one. This way you would have easy access to control everything separately, while not being forced to control every single individually.
I hope this helps:)
Cheers!
@@STSYT It did help a lot! A true master class you've just given! No words can thank you! Success to your channel!
I can't believe I willingly just watched an almost 9 minute ad....not a review
Should I buy these or the silent wings 3 I hate the noise of a pc fan
I get you.
I had 3x silent wings 3 in 140mm in my old rig, they are amazing fans.
But the P12s push much more air, hence you can make it turn slower.
So if you are willing to adjust your fan curve, so that the fan only blows when needed, go with the p12. If you want a out of the box exp. take the SW 3.
Hope this helps
@@STSYT I’m thinking of getting a gtx 1650 or 1660 and I have a i3 10100 so if I made a p12 fan curve will it be as quiet or quieter than the silent wings 3 or will it still be louder?
@@diegomusty
If you make a quiet fan curve, you will not hear any of those fans.
Once you load up a game and the temps go up (so will hopefully your fan curve) the arctic will generally be louder then the be quiets.
But! you will be able to let the p12 spin completely ‘quiet’ for a longer time.
So generally you will always be able to let the p12 spin a bit slower, making them quieter overall.
But once you go 100% on both fans, the silent wings will be quieter
@@STSYT Hmm I think I’ll buy one of both I’ll see whether it’s worth the money on silent wings 3 or just save the money and buy the p12
@@diegomusty Sure, testing for yourself with your personal rig is always the best option
so now you have 2 new arctic fans to take a look at
The BioniX RGB an P12 0db. Yes, can't wait to see what Arctic produced there!
@@STSYT nice and i cant wait to see a vid on them ;)
fan speed isn t a great comparason, you should try to make your test noise normalized, like "what is each fan performance at 30db, 35db, 40db"
I would love to do that. But using dB meters are either extremely inaccurate or expensive as hell.
As soon as there’s budget for a high-end measuring device, you can be sure that we’ll do that.
@@STSYT is there one yet?
just bought a 5 pack for like 35 bucks
Whats the diff between co
co stands for continuous operation. These are for permanent use, like a Server that runs 24/7
@@STSYT but non CO can run 24/7
Sure, they are just meant for that. You can run anything 24/7.
The CO version has Ball Bearings ( non co has Fluid Dynamic ), these should be better in hotter operations, again like Servers.
You probably won't even notice the difference inside a normal PC.
CO means ball bearings
You're wrong. It works a little quieter with pads, the difference is small, but there is.
Is this fans still relevant for now?
I prefer the F12 for rear and top exaust fans. You don't need more than 1 front fan since your case cooling is done thru convection.
Better value than those uglyass overpriced noctuas. Also simple packaging with no accessories to bloat up the price.
Yes and no, sure noctua's are more expensive. But they're not bad. And compared to most other case fans out there, noctua blows everything away.
But here comes Arctic with reasonable pricing and noctua-like performance. It gets hard to justify a 20€/$ fan when you know arctic exists.
Why do you keep saying PVM? Do you know what a W is? 😂 @sts
As a German speaker the V makes more sense 😅
Your CPU radiator orientation is interesting. As opposed to somewhat vertical airflow (when fans are mounted of course) , I'd always thought that a strictly horizontal airflow (with maybe one fan at the top of the case) was the way to go. Do you have any data, whether one or the other is the best for thermals?
Thanks for a great video btw 👍
Thanks! And no, we haven't done anything like that until now. But maybe we will :)
@@STSYT Cheers. Would love that. Subscribed 👍