Did brake problems deny Leclerc a Bahrain F1 victory shot? | Podcast
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- Mark Hughes and Scott Mitchell-Malm join Edd Straw to discuss the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix, in which reigning champion Max Verstappen stamped his authority with a convincing victory.
But could Charles Leclerc have run him closer, had the Ferrari driver not experienced brake issues? That's one of many questions tackled on The Race F1 post-race podcast.
0:00 - Intro
2:48 - How the race was won
9:11 - Horner situation overshadows weekend
12:00 - Perez makes a solid start
15:08 - Ferrari best of the rest
20:37 - McLaren’s competitiveness
24:06 - Mercedes
30:25 - Alonso flatters Aston
35:09 - Hulkenberg takes out Stroll
39:10 - Valtteri Bottas Sympathy Corner
43:10 - Alpine
51:24 - Listener questions
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I don't know if Leclerc could've won but definitely in a shout for P2. The fact that Perez was so close to Sainz at the end could've been Leclerc's opportunity. A shame we never got to see.
Sainz said he had similar issues as well, but it didnt look as severe.
@@Visual_GhoulSainz had the break issues that every driver had, he didn't had a break 100ºC over the other. Its not the same
Perez was coasting as well on the last sting, marko said that because there was no need it to push more, sainz was under control. Checi car had some issues, too, so same third place for ferrari.
i definitely think leclerc would have kept perez behind ferrari lost 6 points there
The answer is a resounding NO.
What a silly clickbait title. You're better than this The Race.
They have gone down the slaughter house's gutter since last season 😂😂
They aren't, clearly.
No, they're not.
The Leclerc fanboyness on this channel is really getting out of hand recently
But look, IF bahrain circuit had more high speed corners AND the temperature was exactly as Mercedes needed to cool the car AND Verstappen wasnt a red bull driver but an alpine driver AND Adrian Newey woked for Mercedes and Ferrari at the same time then Leclerc could have won the race easily with Russel second and Hamilton third.
The win probably not but a double podium for Ferrari was certainly possible. Leclerc pace was stellar despite his brake issues
Perez didn't even need to push at the end and he was comfortably ahead of Sainz. At best it would have been a 2-4 or a 3-4 with the order reversed without Leclerc's brake problems.
Checo also had issues, and still faster than sainz….
This is not last year, In this year, checo is going to be strong. The rb20 adapts more to his driving style. Not like max but more than the rb19.
@@Chyeahokaydo you know what the issues were? So far I've only heard of radio issues which shouldn't have had a significant effect on his pace
Respect for Valtteri. Such a stand-up bloke.
In my mind it is Sainz who is the frontrunner for the Redbull seat.
As long as Perez is an effective wingman to Max, there's no reason to boot him from his seat. Saturday's performance is exactly what Red Bull wants from him and as long as he delivers that, that seat is his.
@@mrgalaxy396 I would expect that Perez's performance last year has already lost him the seat. Perhaps if he drove flawlessly this season...
@@mrgalaxy396I’m not sure!! Redbull is a team that doesn’t seem to follow the norm. Look at all the chaos around the verstappen’s vs Horner, pitting 🇦🇹 ownership vs 🇹🇭 ownership.. at this point everything is unclear if max is even staying at redbull 😂🤭😑😑
This made me smile so much. So happy for The Race.
In the age of Perez missing Q3 five times in a row, it's worth recalling BOttas getting in Q3 nearly 100 times straight, and beating Hamilton at a 1:2 ratio.
1. Max had a 40+ second lead at one point.
2. Leclerc had no chance.
3. Your sad clickbait title worked on me.
Dude, the others went for a pit stop....
Really strange race for Charles. I could see from the helicopter point of view his car was jerking to the right under braking so he was losing a lot of time. Not a great start and they need to start the next couple races running and winning if they want to be anywhere near RedBull for the championship
Mechanical issues can be fixed in the next race.
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402by next race i take it you mean bahrain 2025 considering its Ferrari
@@Visual_Ghoul we'll see
@@Visual_Ghoul true
Keep it up, the question about the lack of competitiveness at the front making people give up their membership isn’t widespread. The technical jeopardy of 10 different cars and 10 different teams developing them gives such a jeopardy to every year and even race. The Race does the best at analyzing this so keep it up.
Comparing to Sainz, Leclerc isn't using the same tactics under pressure. My opinion is that SAI is a little better in that regard than LEC.
Dunno, Leclerc has a pretty good understanding of how he can impact the race and championship. Think of the DRS tactics against Verstappen at the beginning of 2022, or how he was trying to use Perez to beat Russell and Mercedes at the very end of last year's championship. He just has too much faith in his team, and doesn't override their decisions when he should. Both of them are great drivers.
@@Fpvpilot928 yeah, I don't deny his competence. Both are great drivers and I would love to see them on the podium more often. My comment was just a thought after the first race, keeping the history out of it.
@@Fpvpilot928that's not necessarily driving under pressure, especially over a season, which is his real problem. Those are more instinctual moments. Hes a very instinctual driver, for sure, but when hes far out ahead or his only ghost in the race, like in France, he'll just spin out and ruin his lead. Champions like Max and Lewis just dont make those mistakes. Theyrr too consistent. While Leclerc is a very temperamental driver who will even complain about a lonely race while guys like Max and Lewis just shine being out on their own, being their own benchmark. Leclerc does his head in a bit, which is where the cracks from pressure show. Also full of excuses when things dont go his way.
Hes finally getting angry, which is a good step. Perhaps we'll see him show actual championship caliber this year, by minimizing the excuses and just being the clear next best guy to Max. Problem is, hell get bored not getting podiums or something and then well see him fighting for 6th some race when Sainz is in 3rd, bc he cant be bothered to give af bc hes not winning. A guy like that is a diva, not a champion. I dont think hes the next contender to Max. If anything, out of the current field, its George, who has shown better fight against Max in those few head to head moments and is more hungry, just in everything he does. I suspect the next era of drivers like Piastri and so on will be the actual guys to surpass Leclerc and challenge Max.
@@MM-qm9lddidnt max went off in spain, spun out of lead in hungary and went off agaij in singapore, all in 2022? I mean yeah, ferrari messed up leclerc in those instance so we didnt see what big blunders those were, but against a competent team, this would be akin to max throwing away the championship.
Similarly for lewis, do you remember how many mistakes he made in 2021?
Any driver can drive faultlessly when having a dominant car tuned exactlt to their liking. Its when they have to fight do we see everyone making mistakes.
He may have gotten 2nd....not sure he could catch Max
Seriously one of the best podcasts when it comes to covering F1! A nice healthy mix of banter and analysis. Looking forward to the rest of the season! Cheers gents 😎
No, P2 at best because Max would've realistically thinking still been too fast to beat on pure pace.
It isn't Red bulls fault that no one else can get this rule set right. Would I like a more go at it race for top 3 yes buttt not their fault everyone is falling so short.
The Lecope is real whenever Sainz does well huh?
Yeah... A data backed proof that there was a 100C difference between his two front brakes is coping... Lmao. Do you honestly believe that Russel could overtake Charles in a fair fight ? Pure delusion
@@waitbalthy6342 this rivalry is so annoying istg, sainz fans just can't get over lec being more naturally talented and that's it. must be some kind of projection because how else can you literally ignore the data
@@HealthySuccessfulHabits-zo5oc Both sides are annoying, and im a Leclerc fanboi.
Neither side is happy when the other does well for some reason, even tho they are the strongest pairing on the gird, and probabaly have the best relationship as well.
@@HealthySuccessfulHabits-zo5oc Yeah, it's not like LeClerc has been pampered as a ferrari wonderboy for years just to have a loud "NOOOOOOOO!" as the thing he's most remembered for. Pretty sure there must be data somewhere about loudest radio messages.
Carlos’s good days are only on Charles’s bad days lol only times Carlos felt comfortable with the car is when he finished ahead of Charles. Keep the same energy, can’t wait till Carlos leaves Ferrari and take his toxic fans with him
I’ve said this before, F1 needs new tyre rules immediately… We need different cars on different tyres (Hard/Medium/Soft) attempting numerous different strategies that suit their car performance.
RE: Closing the gap to Red Bull.
That's a downside of a cost cap. If you can't test and try new ideas, but your problems are rather baked in, well, game over.
That being said, I agree with our pundits: encourage competitiveness, yes, but don't punish success.
I feel like sprints are underutilised - they're just a GP Lite as is. A full-on reverse grid from qualifying would be one way to spice them up (that, or make them knockout races, or make them be exclusively ran by non-titular drivers, or something else).
RE: Points.
Just have all classified drivers be awarded points. Some of my old school peers will disagree (I'm old enough to remember Senna racing), but I think points aren't fit for purpose.
Why hand points to every driver? First, it makes every position be worth fighting for. In the last 10 laps, nobody cares about whoever's in P12 or P18, and it's a shame. Create an incentive for drivers to maximize their position, and create an incentive for fans to watch. Make that Williams REALLY want to beat Stake for P15.
Second, it makes for a more accurate picture of driver and team rankings. Let's put it this way: *we're currently not ranking backmarker teams based on how well they do, but rather about how often they can crack the top 10*. I don't think that's what rankings, and thus funding, should be based on. I can recall Latifi leading Russell in the standings after 12 races a few years back, even though he'd beaten him only twice... one of which was for points. It severely distorts the picture for bottom of the pack drivers.
Everyone who know F1 Manager knows Dirk de Beer because when you were playing as any backmarker team you could always hire him and he was the best aero guy for the backmarkers by far.
If u watch f1 ONLY for winning driver go watch a spec series. Max and Rbr are on another level. Yes thats no fun but f1 is about technology and pushing a prototype car built n raced by a team. Sorry but cost cap IS working. Grid is closer than ever, its just Max is generational talent with a car that fits him perfectly. I love f1 and barhain is never a meter for season. In 21 we thought oh ok merc still has advantage. But no it turned out it was closer. Now 1 sec 1st to last in qually? At a long track? HECK YES give me more
leclerc and others are faster than max. all max needs to do is beat perez which is easy. almost ever driver on the grid would win in the rb
@@ddha0000😂😂😂
As a leclerc fan the brake issues cost Charles roughly around 32-33 seconds and he finished 39 behind Max so wouldn’t say it denied him the win but P2 was his for sure and still the gap to Max much closer in Bahrain compared to any other point during the 23 season. Promising signs for Ferrari!
39 seconds behind when max wasn't even trying he let off from 85 to 80 percent and still was 39 seconds up. He is still 20 plus seconds behind if max actually tries
If you think Max was pushing 100% when 20+ seconds ahead you must be more delusional than Ferrari tacticians.
@@TurtlesLV absolutely. Sainz managed the same brake issues. Le Clerc just panics and whinges and whines. The whinging and whining will go well with hamilton.
@@MevRB19 He didn't have the same issues, stop lying
Carlos is a very excellent driver, but he isn't faster than Charles. Those who say Carlos is a faster driver than Charles, on the back of the Bahrain GP, I hope you clipped your reactions for Saudi this week. Watch when Charles finishes ahead of Carlos
Lecrash will bin it as Lecrash always does
what team will be sold first… Haas or Alpine?
A lot of RedBull's time comes down to Simulation - not the car simulator / simulation (maybe) but how they model and simulate set up, competition analyses and weather conditions. I think their models were mmuch better than the others'. I would say that adds about apprpx. 10 secs in race time. That's why they traditionally don't do so much better in sprint races. They are still the best on the grid, but you can tell.
Who asked that question criticising the reporters at the end lol
By the way Max was just do tyre management all the race and didnt puch the RB20 to the limit and Checo have some issue in his car in the later part of the race and have nice evning 😂
The Race love your podcast, keep up with great work
Charles had the fastest quali lap in Q2 and then he gets front row. In the race he was locking up all over the place with comments to his team. Fair to say his mechanical issues were real and hindered his performance. New car and first race things will be found out there that are hard to discover in testing.
Max had so much pace in hand if he needed it
Hahahaha the bottas sympathy corner intro is fantastic
what victory? at best he would have finished p2
Leclerc only did that time once Max was more consistent in his times so stop dreaming guys of Ferrari being on pole regularly because of Leclerc inconsistency.
All over Instagram are rumors of Max going to Mercedes in 2025
And Newey coing to Ferrari, 🦊
@@foryousten I would be happy with that!!!
After watching that race I felt very angry at the other teams. What on earth have they been doing all winter? Ferrari and merc especially shouldn't embarrassed "we have a better platform to build from" what a load of rubbish. They are absolutely all miles off it, and alpine should be ashamed of them selves "we've changed everything but the steering wheel" the car is worse than anything, these new rules ment to make the pack closer have made the racing shocking. I love f1 but its in a terrible place right now and anybody who says otherwise is mad
I really don't understand how people can demand F1 to be 'best drivers fighting in equal machinery' it's is not a spec car series. As a matter of fact it is one of the few series not with spec cars.. Also I feel there is a difference with much of the rule changes during the Mercedes era. Most of the Mercedes innovations were 'tricks' challenging the the rules, DAS or party mode. Actually they are still doing it now with the front wing. Red Bull (as far as we know) doesn't such outlandish tricks, they just designed and build a better car.
Seriously!? That desperate for clicks? No way in this universe is Charles anything but 2nd or 3rd. On a race push lap from Max the gap to 2nd was 1.5 secs in a single lap. Just give Max the 24 championship already.
In the Mercedes era it was the Power Unit and in the RB era it's Adrian Newey
It is mainly Max as he would have won in the ferrari of le clerc if they swapped cars. Le Clerc is Sooooooooooooooo overrated. He is a total panic merchant surrender monkey.
@@MevRB19 no dude, he would be nowhere near. leclerc is faster than max, max makes a few less mistakes but he would have no chance in the ferrari.
@@ddha0000NOOOOOOO 😭🤡
Doubt it. Checo had issues as well and still finished ahead of problem free sainz. Sainz looked really good. Charles will have a problem with Carlos this year imo. Without issues charles best was 3rd.
On Perez qualifying “Gap to Verstappen wasn’t horrific. Only 3 1/2 tenths”
😂 get a grip. If any other driver has that kind of gap to their team mate, they’d get slaughtered. Perez has set the bar so low, we’re congratulating him on finishing 20+ seconds off the lead in the same car!
That's the gap most drivers on the grid would have to Verstappen. And Perez has never been known for his one lap pace. And if not for a mistake at turn one he would have qualified second. As long as he's finishing second he's doing what Red Bull want from him. They want a Barrichello, not a Rosberg.
@@areebsiddiqui758 most of the grid would at least finish 2nd every race behind Verstappen in last years Red Bull.
I don’t think Leclerc could’ve won but he’d have definitely beaten Sainz and had a shot at Perez without the issues (which is why it’s annoying so many are acting like Sainz is outperforming)
Sports rewards the one who does the best job but this sport is more about machines than man and how many sports see this dominance. The rank 1 loses sometimes in most
No, they did not.
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike 😂😭🤣
If I’m Max, I’m retiring after this season. I’ve got nothing left to prove.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
No, being at Ferrari cost him a shot at victory.
Leclerc would've being 25 seconds off the pace Sergio would still have beaten Leclerc by 2 seconds
Victory 😂😂😂 Max was at 85% until halfway through then kicked it back to 80% and still absolutely dominated the field
Show the data for that bro. Show the 85% Master data analyst.
Are we seriously going to discuss that?
SharLeclear is always so unfortunate
Yea that’s what I’d say too
haha a shot at victory, dream on
Victory shot 😂😂😂😂 Stop smoking whatever you are smoking delulu is getting stronger
I'll give this season 2 more races, if nothing interesting happens I will probably just skip the season with a few exceptions of Imola and Austria. I used to watch F1 for entertainment, now it feels like a job to force myself to watch the whole race. I am a bit annoyed that I can not refund my F1TV subscription.
Max will be the only driver to win a championship for Ferrari to break there drought in 2028
I'll save you 1 hour and 11 minutes, no
Honesly sorry, but who in their right mind would think that that brake issue (that also Sainz suffered from, from what he said in the post race interview) would deny him from his win since Max gave Lec 40-second deficit in the race, and 22+ to Perez. Honesly. 😂
No. He didn't he said his brakes were overheating is different not unbalanced like Leclerc was
Engineers, educated people and anyone can read lol you wanna downplay it so bad just to make Carlos look better 🤣
Sainz fans are like Alonso dans assholes 😂 ,maybe its a spanish thing !
I don’t think he could win the race however, he wouldn’t be far back from Max.
Max must win 9 titles in a row that will be awesome to see.
Title: NO!
No.
Don't be ridiculous!! I'm starting to loose confidence in this channel.
I’m already there. This channel has fallen off a cliff.
A shot at victory? LOL. No. Red Bull was over a second per lap faster. They'll win every race this year unless something odd happens and they crash or the engine dies.
the cope for charles has gotten so crazy over the past 2 years
The only people coping are Sainz fans. Leclerc absolutely bodied Sainz in 2022 and beat Sainz in 2023 despite having way more DNFs than him. Leclerc had a major brake issue during the race and Sainz fanboys are trying to gaslight everyone into thinking he beat him on merit when he didn't.
@@turdferguson3803 your a clown look at 2021
No dude
Short answer to the title of this video. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Victory? 😂😂😂😂😂 oh boy, the delusion
F1 should be looked at like a symphony. It's not a pop album of individual songs. Focus on the season. And no, one race does not make a foundation of a season. I believe that way of thinking is pessimistic and likely just your broadcaster brains trying to be edgy for clicks. Even is RBR is best, it doesn't mater that much. It's how F1 has always been. Yet you guess act disappointed and get all edgy and hemorrhoidal. Symphony. Chill out.If you chill out maybe other parts of medial could follow.
not listening to an hour of this, we all know he couldnt. answer is no.
I managed to listen to 4 minutes of this.
Victory?
No??
I can't tell how annoyed i was when i read sainz fan's comments. Toxicity is parabolically increasing in this sport.
It's okay to be a fan but some of them are very delusional.
More fans will always lead to more toxicity.
@@CharlesbGallup They can be delusional too i don't care. Just be happy your driver did a good job, maybe he is your goat whatever. But trying to belittle Charles' performance when there's OBVIOUS problem with his car is jus pathetic.
@@elpis. And ironically there's a very good chance Charles would have been significantly faster than Carlos and taken that podium spot from him had he not suffered issues.
I'm not even sure why Carlos got driver of the day, when it was in fact Charles that drove his ass off to beat Russel and stay ahead of Lando and finish P4 with a crippled car.
After further thought, I think Carlos won DOTD solely because he gave us the only action of the race when he passed a crippled Charles twice.
@@CharlesbGallup I don't get why but Carlos' has incredibly toxic fanbase. People get so happy when charles isn't "good". I don't get it at all because he is such a great and humble guy.
No
Nope
ANOTHER UNPROFESSIONAL PIECE OF CONTENT DISGRACE
It's become clear, so many times from this driving pairing, that Sainz is the more complete driver. Leclerc has pace, which gives fanboys a massive boner, but he's as tempermental and inconsistent as Ricciardo. Needs constant stroking and massaging to just show up with his best. He's not self possessed enough, too wishy washy, sometimes bored and aloof, doesnt have half the intangibles and leadership qualities that Sainz does. I'm done with the excuses. When people show you who they are, listen, and if you dont think Ferrari calling Lewis up day and night to get him isnt telling enough about what they think of Leclerc, you haven't been paying attention the past 3 years.
when the mercs are crap this coming weekend.. any guess wha the excuse will be?
Seriously? 😂😂😂
Leclerc never going to win a driver championship this is his last chance this year at Ferrari. After 2 season's Ferrari will let Leclerc go like they did to Vettel once Hamilton is in the team and will look at Oscar Piastri in 2027 to replace Leclerc this will also be Hamilton last year in F1 and 2028 Max Verstappen at Ferrari to replace Hamilton.
Sorry but Mercedes are always coming up with what ifs in hindsight and its usually crappie
Lewis would have won a race if he wasn't disqualified,
If our car wasn't porpoising we'd be fast.
If we ran more cooling we'd be faster,
Yea right, it never ends
If there was no cost-cap, then it would be much more competitive...
Objectively untrue.
The field homologizes more every year since peak difference p1 p20 was in 2019 at almost 2 entire percentage points.
woosh@@LiftandCoa
2030 Max Verstappen will retire after his 9th world title .
"Don't recommend channel"
Bad luck for Leclerc again! Oh wait he constantly has bad luck. Almost as if his teammate is just more consistent
And that’s why he always beats Carlos with his hands behind his back 🤣
I mean a mechanical fault is pretty unlucky
what a title. the race is a joke
It was an awful race
Wonder if they're gonna shut up about Horner or continue teting to push a narrative.
9:12 well... they're continuing to talk about it. Guys shut up. Move past it, it's done 🤦
Well it's clearly not done, is it? Whether you're think Horner is innocent or not, the story has only escalated with the leaks and Jos Verstappen's inflammatory comments.
@@areebsiddiqui758 Jos making himself the center of attention again....what a surprise, also hasn't Jos himself been an abusive person in the past oh that's right he has..
No Ferrari just did the usual Ferrari and picked the wrong guy. I hope Sainz thrashes the overrated rich-boy leClerc every race this year.
no ferrari picked the right boy i am confident leclerc will thrash this daddy’s boy 2nd driver material sainz and destroy him as a parting gift
you are a clueless hater and a troll
@@mo215300 Hahaha, good one!
They just denied thr podium at most. Noone is even trying to race Max. Sad but true