4 Ways To Play FAST 16th Notes With One Hand
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Last week I got an email from one of my drum students... Wayne Capone. He asked: "What do you feel is the best technique to get single-handed sixteenth notes on the hi-hat up to a good speed (say 110bpm +)? Is it push-pull? Is it Moeller? Is it French grip ( I know that's how many blast beats do it - but I don't really like that - feels somewhat "light" and "awkward") I'd love to hear your thoughts and how you do it.
In response, I decided to outline a physical punk drumming lesson... like how to drum like Travis Barker... or how to drum like Tre' Cool as well as blast beats. I even talk about some Stuart Copeland drumming... In contrast, I put that physical style against more momentum-driven styles like Moeller technique and Push Pull Technique. All in all, here are 4 Ways To Play FAST 16th Notes With One Hand! Enjoy.
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I teach ~45 students on a weekly basis and describing these techniques to them has always been a challenge because I hadn't yet thought of a solid set of exercises to differentiate. Subscribed instantly.
Stephen Utterback so glad I could help! Steal it, use it, teach it ...make it your own, my brotha.
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been drumming over 50 years,,thanks for making sense and not showing off
Chuckie Drums thanks for checking it out!
I agree. This teacher is so humble. And I'm not even a drummer hahahah
I died
Any advice ? I'm been drumming for almost one year,.
@@lrngMathcom would listen to jazz and just explore the world of drumming with websites like drumeo and that guy. Also try to play jazz licks and fills could be really progressive.
90,000 views! Thank you everyone... I am truly humbled...
Wow, I always considered myself a shit drummer because I couldn't ever go passed 80 BPM. I did those exercises every day this week and my 90 BPM is almost effortless!
Nice!!! Yeah, those exercises are life-changing. Glad I could help you 😉 Feel free to spread the love!
Really nice instruction, no wasted self indulgent staging at all, just really generous. Thanks!!!
Lucas Rooney Im glad you dug it, Lucas. Thanks for checking it out.
The introduction first minute showed mastered thee techniques….very motivating. Thanks.
I will be having my first drum workshop this coming nov at our church. This is a big help for me!!! Thankyou!!!!
A great lesson that breaks down the various methods available for playing 16th notes with one hand - FAST! Nice work.
ShKott Rendezvous I’m glad you dug it! Thanks for the comment.
Good question. Great answer. I really like that you talked about and demonstrated the difference in sound & feel between the techniques. I've watched a lot of drum tutorial videos on hand/stick technique and you're the first one to talk about it.
And it's pretty important if you're a working drummer playing different styles of music.
Thanks for your kind words, Mike... that means the world to me. Yeah, with technique, you always have to think of the end result, which is "how will this feel when I'm performing it live?" So many players are so wrapped up in technique that guilty of not doing that.
@@Thedrummersalmanac - Yes and I think it's b'cuz many players are only interested in technique for the purpose of playing faster.
This is the 1st video of yours I've seen and you quickly & easily earned a like & subscribe!
Mike Connors ... I truly appreciate that. Welcome to the community!
Great breakdown of the various techniques and a good process on how to get results.
Thanks David. Glad you dug it.
I know there are tons of ways to develop those fast 16th notes... Do you have a favorite way?... Let's talk about it.
No but it took me 2 seconds to realize that you drew the thumbnail
@@JimmysDonuts Well, I drew on it...
This is a unique lesson. Learned some new practice ideas!
Thanks for checking out the video. I am curious to see some of your results... pop in from time to time and let me know how it's going. I'd love to hear about it.
Most usable video lesson I've come across. Wow, thanks for this J
Matt Musician X ...you are most welcome.
So much to learn. Me that is. I've played for a number of years and still learn something new every time I watch one of these videos.
my compliments towards you, very clear and good explanation, very , very, very good, even i am playing drums for about 45 years i still learn a lot of things on youtube, this one is really a good clear one, thank you very much dude
Thank you very much! I am so glad you dug the lesson. Thanks for letting me know.
You have by far taken to number 1 spot for me as the best teacher on youtube.
i dont even play drums but i love 16th notes on the hihat. Too much groove with them rnb vibez
Great lesson Jay. I kind of lost track of you till this popped up. Another valuable in depth lesson. Back when I learned the Nellie groove “Hot in Herre”, I still think you had the best teaching system going and I worked on every one of those lessons. Always useful information , well done.
buddyrichable1 Wow that video is going back a while. Thank much the kind words and for tracking me down again! Stay in touch... I play on rolling out tons of new lessons.
Thank you for your uploads
Omg I really love this video! Great job and keep up the good work! :)
Thanks,Freya... I just checked out your channel. Good stuff... I need to start getting in shape again.
Exactly what i needed
Great lesson/ideas! I remember getting frustrated trying to build up my speed when I first started drumming....practice, practice and more practice :)
That what it is... brick by brick...
Awesome video! Thanks for the tips :)
Absolutely great and in depth video. Wow.
Thank you Cole
Ha! Im glad you mentioked Trè Cool! He's the only reason I want to hit the hi-hat that fast!
Thanks for posting. Googled this because my guitar player wants me to learn some punk!
nice tutorial. I am working on a song that needs 1 hand 16ths . I have been looking at the techniques I can apply here and this was a good reminder that in fact I can muscle it out, but im going to need to build it up. I have been using Moeller to start learning the song. Good Stuff
Brilliant channel and content
This dude is good....wish my teachers were this good 50 yrs ago and had utube.
Sus
I've come to learn this after watching Louis Cole fast single hi-hat ghost note on his short video. Great help
Great lesson.
Thanks
Thanks. Great lesson. Keep it up.
reyverlie santos thank you 🙏
Great player, great teacher, very knowledgeable!
Thank you kindly!
this was a really high quality, thorough lesson on high hat!
Thank you, My friend... I've been taking a break from youtube while since I've been renovating my new drum studio... but I am just about ready to start with new lessons again so keep in touch!
Ian Paice has a pretty mean one handed roll too.
Reck Tumz he sure does
This guy has a great attitude. Subbed.
Good Stuff. Thanks brother
I'm glad I found your channel!!. Drums...either you got it..or you don't. Developing proper playing techniques is sooo very crucial to learning and understanding drums and the drum set. I'm a hobby drummer that discovered he has taught himself incorrectly over time. Music has always been easy for me.....its when life gets involved....thats when it becomes difficult. The drums have always centered me and brought me back. Discovering vids like yours inspires n drives me to practice correctly!!!!.
Tyvm!!!!!...am a sub now and look forward to more vids!!👍👍
Thanks for checking out the video and for your kind words. I truly appreciate it and welcome to the TDA community! If you wanna delve deeper... I have a really cool challenge on my website, that I think would really help you, in your situation (being self-taught)... and it's totally free. To check it out, go to thedrummersalmanac.com and join the mailing list, you'll get instant access to the challenge. It's a 10-video test, should take you around 20 minutes to complete... and it will really help you get on the right track. Let me know if you decide to take it and what you think.
Really cool nice job thankyou
I like the way you put the lesson together. Todd Sucherman explains his approach in terms of a in-and-out motion. This could be another avenue to explore. The lines between this techniques are not at all sharp, meaning you can easily morph from one to the other even between sections of the same song.
Absolutely... there is never just one way... take from as many people as you can find and make your own way that works for you. Being able to shift gears is crucial.
Great great lesson Jay ... bringing up some vital techniques. Your quote "The more technique you have the more tools you have in your tool shed to express yourself comfortably" ... is Awesome.
One of my all time favorite grooves growing up as a young teen was "I Keep forgettin' " by Michael McDonald .. the drummer was the great Jeff Porcaro. In the groove he plays one handed 16th notes throughout. It's nowhere near 120 bpm .. it's only 95 bpm but so smooth.
Thanks John... 95bpm is nothing to balk at... I used to hold down the groove to "Kiss Of Life" by Sade'... to practice endurance.. which is also at 95, I believe. It's a workout. especially lefty!
@@Thedrummersalmanac .... that's a great tune to woodshed with Jay. She has a bunch of similar tunes in her repertoire that would work as well.
@@johndiraimo1444 Totally, I think my whole young education about learning to work with a rhythm section came from Sade's band. I could do a whole lesson series just on 'Sweetest taboo' and 'No Ordinary Love.'
Good lesson.
Wow...thank you nice lesson!!!!
Carlos Diaz thank for checking it out, Carlos
Alwsys a great lesson here . Thank you ..
Great job
I am a beginner, I have been playing for not even 6 months. I'm on day 4 of doing this exercise twice a day and it's unbelievable how effective this is. I'm only playing american grip and aim for consistency and endurance, I can't go fast at all but in 4 days I added 10bpm (from 70 to 80) and the consistency of the stroke skyrocketed. This exercise is really giving me the time to focus on how the left hand feels and getting it up to speed to the right hand. Amazing!
Awesome! It is a game changer for sure... It just makes me a little nervous when a beginner talks about American grip. It’s easy to do that wrong. Please just watch that form and stay relaxed. If you have a private teacher show him/her to make sure your form is good to avoid injury. Let me know how it goes. I’d love to hear about it!
@@Thedrummersalmanac yes, I go to a teacher once a week so I have someone who keeps an eye on my form. I also played the piano for many years so I can spot tension in arms, shoulders and wrists. Out of curiosity what grip would you suggest to learn first? Thank you so much
@@teidenzero I would recommend the Natural Germanic form... then a slow switch to American over time. I still do my pad work in the German form. Generally Americanized on the kit.
@@Thedrummersalmanac thank you
This comment is now 3 years old! Do you still play drums?
I know why I’m watching...
This guys on it Thanks for sharing the love of 16
Great lesson Great instructing
Thanks Tim!
Wow! You are a fantastic instructor! This video is solid stuff. Thanks! I'm going to practice my one handed 16th notes right now.
Thank you... and AWESOME!! Go do that. 😃
@@Thedrummersalmanac Could you apply this video to triplets, e.g (Rosanna, Fool in the Rain) or is the technique a a little different?
@@onebadhombre7158 Yes you can... It's a very similar technique... The straight 8ths are just in swing time when you do a shuffle.
great teacher
great video and great channel😀👏 greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
Per-einar Skog thanks so much for the comment. I appreciate that!
Well explained video. Todd Sucherman teaches a variation on the push/pull that's more of an in/out. He describes it as the motion of shooting pool. I guess it all depends on which method gives you the sound you're looking for in a given situation.
Absolutely. I love Todd's playing... and his teachings. Every person I've seen do the push/pull seems to do it slightly differently. I say, look at everyone's take and then do whatever you have to do to make it work for you...
Great informative video! Thanks!
MrPhantom95 thanks for checking it out!
Brilliant video! Thank you!
Thanks for that! Much appreciated
Very nice lesson. Don't know why anyone would give this a thumbs down.
Me neither!!! Especially since the dude in the video is so good looking. lol... Thanks for checking it out.
Good stuff! Can't wait to finally play blast beats hehee
TheSunMoon -get to it... you’ll be blazing before you know it.
Thank you thank you thank you for this video!! I'm a new drummer. The way you explain things here will definitely help me work through some techniques that will make me a better drummer!
ps: this is the first video I've watched from you. I am now a subscriber. You did a great job for a person who relies on the visuals. :D
NA R thank you so much for watching and for subbing... and welcome to the community! I so glad it helped you.
Very well explained 👏🏻 I avoid technique #1 as it has injured my hand/wrist multiple times as you also said it takes a lot of muscle repetitions. Molar 2 works best for me😊
Excelente aula!!! Apesar da diferença linguística, ainda assim consegui entender tudo. Obrigado Professor!
I hope this comes out right... Você é muito bem-vindo! Obrigado por conferir o vídeo!
Great lesson! Thank you)
You are welcome!
Insane vid bro...very explanatory...
John Baisden Thanks John... glad you dug it
More like this please pls plz!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great instruction! You've earned my sub.
Thanks Don... and welcome to the community!
Your video is very informative. When I first started, it was more out of curiosity -- and quickly found that I didn't have to use my arm all the time -- instead, I found I could play must faster and accurately by manipulating my fingers and controlling the "bounce back"; and never told anyone that I was "cheating" :) esp. for songs that didn't need that full on punchy sounds.
James ... the faster you go, the less you need to move. 👍🏻
Excellent vid. Thanks.
Thank you!!! glad you liked it.
Very useful and illuminating video, new follower here! Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻🥁
Thanks so much for checking it out, Kelly. Stay tuned... I got a ton more coming out.
Great lesson
Thank you!
I don't even know why I'm waching this, I don't play drums
JimMasterGaming maybe it’s a sign that you should start!
Yeah start with drumming its great
Coaches don't play
There is a drummer inside of you wanting to be released.
@@markdemell3717 @thedrummersalmanac maybe you're right! Who knows...
This is great instructions, so good for getting faster HiHat
Underrated content.
I appreciate that... thank you
Thanks, very useful
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Jay. I found your video really informative. I have been playing drums for a living for 20 plus years and i have used all 3 of these techniques at one time or another. I also use fingers/finger control as well. Here is something i thought you would be interested in. If i have to play 16ths on the bell of the ride cymbal i was finding it a little hard to control the stick on the bell. The stick sometimes would bounce away from the bell. After thinking about this and experimenting what i did was instead of angling my ride cymbal i made the ride cymbal flat and lowered it a bit to where it almost resembled a hi hat. Sure enough when i went to play 16ths on the ride and bell i didn't have any problem controlling the stick. The reason why i did this is i didn't have a problem playing one handed 16ths on the hi hat and i think playing down into the cymbal made my arm relax. I figured if it works on the hats why not the ride? Songs like Tarkus from Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Green Grass and high times by the Outlaws have quick constant 16th note ride cymbal. On Green Grass after the 2nd verse there is a long 8th note ride cymbal pattern but then there is a long consistent 16th note ride pattern.
By making this adjustment i have no problem playing these patterns. Thank you again for posting this video up and i would like your opinion on this. Anthony L.
The In Tune Show ...Hey Anthony. Great comment. And I am all about changing your set up to accommodate your form. All to often I see drummers just set up drums and cymbals in awkward position because they either don’t think about it... or worse... they think it looks cool. If you have found a way to position your ride cymbal to work better for your form then that is the key to any technique. Also If you are using a lot of rebound, then a flatter surface will always be more responsive. Good for you man! I’d love to check out your playing if you have any vids.
Very good teacher first time I've seen him
Thanks James... and welcome to the channel.
Thank you so much, I’ve been trying to do 16th notes, you’re amazing 😁🥁
You’re welcome. Thanks for checking it out!
Of course, no problem
Groovy.
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Good Video
Thankyou great job
Thank you, Bob! I'm glad you dug it.
Amazing
Thank you! Glad you dug it.
Nice vid. Thanks.
Thanks for checking it out :-) Much appreciated.
Thank you 🙏🏻
And thank you for checking it out.
Great lesson and comparative elaboration. Reminder to all who practice.... don’t forget the BREATHE. May sound silly, but I’ve learned that lesson. This video illustrates how a great passes on knowledge without ego. Well done indeed. Skillfully presented.
Thanks Deano... and Breathing is one of those things, that a lot of drummers forget to do. Holding your breath comes from tension... and deprives your muscles of oxygen while you are playing... which brings more tension. Good point! Thanks again for being here.
I had a brother who forgot to breath... I'm an only child now
@@ancientmonkey5327 damn... that's dedication if you suffocate yourself while playing drums...
@@Thedrummersalmanac hahh
Tom-Tom Tom agreed... it makes you subconsciously tense up.
Hey! I almost didn’t recognize you by face! It is crazy how much time has flown by since your “Spain” video. I discovered that video at a time when I was really trying to develop some of the concepts that you demonstrated so well in that performance (clean, open, fluid, rolls across the kit being one of the obvious ones from that particular video). That must have been at least a decade ago, right? Crazy....
Anyway, great lesson man!! Appreciate you sharing your insight and advice.
Yup that video was done in 2006! ...it is crazy how time flies!!! Thanks for staying with me all these years.
Yes!
When someone doubles to get faster, it does not sound the same! Awesome video! Thnx!
Mário Lindberg ...thank you sir. That depends on how strong your doubles are... but I would agree. When the tempo is faster, doubles have their own sound.
Great!!!
Thank you!!
I saw push pull technique. immediately i like =)
Janez Bond it’s a great technique... I still have a ling way to go with mine.
@@Thedrummersalmanac U took time and wrote a reply on "silly" comment? Hats off man. True dude..
@@janezbond4136 lol... I try to reply to everyone. ...and looking at that reply, apparently, I have a "ling" way to go with my typing skills.
Thankyou soo much
you are welcome!
I thought it was a good lesson - I've not really seen many lessons that compare the different techniques on the hi-hat, and how they could be applied in different musical settings. Often people will just demonstrate how to play something just using their preferred technique. I'm interested how these different techniques translate to shuffle patterns on the hi-hat. I've seen different people apply so many different techniques (particularly when it comes to the half time shuffle) and each one gives a subtle difference in terms of dynamics and gets a different lope out of it (as Jeff Porcaro would put it). I've never personally liked using push/pull technique on the hi-hat as it requires some rebound to work - so generally has to be played on the top of the hi-hat where there is more rebound. This gives a lighter touch, and doesn't create the same sort of sound like digging in to the side of the hi-hat does. I prefer to use a 'Moeller two' technique (as you put it), which becomes very subtle and condensed into the wrist as it speeds up - it doesn't need as much rebound to work.
Thanks for checking out the video, Ben. The shuffle obviously has a different feel since you are swinging the 8th notes... but it does employ a lot of the same techniques. For example you can do a pull-pull shuffle if the tempo is really fast... but the more common way to do it is the pull out with the wrist. Maybe I can address that for you in a future lesson.
I really like the accent every four beats methods. Being blessed with broad shoulders I have always managed quite well muscling it out and with not great technique. So - with years of doing it wrong - the up and down motion every strike was very difficult for me. Whereas the energy of one strike equally three more bounces is much easier to execute.
Such a great video. I practice on an edrum kit, with a rubber hi hat, does that make the Moeller technique harder to practice ?
Good video mr Pesci!
Joe Pesci is actually an amazing Jazz vocalist!
@@Thedrummersalmanac I didn't know that. Just thought your voice sounded alike. Great video by the way. Really enjoyed it!
Great video, subscribed! Would be really awesome if you uploaded some jazz drumming tutorials
I will see what I can do and add some to the docket.
Subscribed because of the surprised goat.
Ya see... that was my plan all along!
other great lesson..
Great video..I'll use it to help develop 16th notes with one hand. I have a CD by King Crimson..'King Crimson USA' which is a live album recorded around 2002. On one tune: 'Asbury Park': the drummer Bill Bruford is playing a steady 16th note ostinato on closed hi-hats and cross-stick backbeats on 2 and 4, which means he's playing the hi-hat 16ths with one hand. Tempo is about 92 bpm. I've had trouble keeping up steady 16ths with one hand at that tempo, so I'll try following the exercises on this video to see if that helps. Thanks great video.
Thanks for sharing!... that's a great example. I was talking to another guy on this thread... He mentioned "I Keep forgettin' " by Michael McDonald (Jeff Porcaro on drums) ...My "tune" back in the day was 'Kiss Of Life' by Sade' About 95 on the metronome. I love how we all have "That one song."
Hi! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question. What technique would you use for Georgy Porgy by Toto?
I’m just trying to get better at drumming and this guy just tell me to quit outta nowhere😂😂
This is really helpful! I’m trying to play Bob Dylan’s Dignity - there’s a version with sixteenths that is played one handed. It’s a good workout!
I wasn't familiar so checked it out. It's actually a 6 feel, so he's playing 16th note triplets. Sort of a shuffle feel. Very interesting.