The Golden Ratio: Is It Myth or Math?

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    The golden ratio. Some say it’s the most mythical number in the universe. Others say it underlies everything from nature’s patterns to beauty in art and design. But, like, what is it? And does the myth of the golden ratio hold up to its mathematical reality? Let’s find out
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  • @besmart
    @besmart  Před 3 lety +2089

    Just trying to think rationally about irrational things…
    Leave a comment and let me know what you thought of the video! I'm on Instagram @DrJoeHanson & @okaytobesmart

    • @yahlifenigstein580
      @yahlifenigstein580 Před 3 lety +21

      Awesome video👍I learned about this at school and I actually listened 😱

    • @yokokurama5174
      @yokokurama5174 Před 3 lety +6

      Good marketing strategy by attracting the annoying jojo gaefans here...
      Garbage anime toxic fanbase but good marketing ... If it was intentional that is... If it wasn't then yeah excuse the jojo fans they don't represent the anime community.

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 Před 3 lety +7

      Thank you for this ep

    • @michaelgrannen4417
      @michaelgrannen4417 Před 3 lety +14

      at 8:34 3/1 = 1?

    • @spindoctor6385
      @spindoctor6385 Před 3 lety +1

      Please pronounce the Ts in the word pattern, there are no Ds in it.

  • @Lifegotmid
    @Lifegotmid Před 3 lety +5515

    Funny Valentine has been real quiet since this has dropped

    • @Agilku117
      @Agilku117 Před 3 lety +345

      "I'll do anything for my country"

    • @ousamadearu5960
      @ousamadearu5960 Před 3 lety +281

      @@Agilku117
      "DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP!"

    • @yunarukami14
      @yunarukami14 Před 3 lety +275

      @@ousamadearu5960 Filthy Acts Done at An Unreasonable Price

    • @rubyred186
      @rubyred186 Před 3 lety +162

      @@yunarukami14 dimes for crimes.

    • @inr9751
      @inr9751 Před 3 lety +104

      @@Agilku117 My heart and actions are utterly unclouded! They are all those of "justice"!

  • @pinmanko7798
    @pinmanko7798 Před 3 lety +1965

    How to make Fibonacci soup?
    You need :
    1. Yesterdays soup
    2. Day before yesterdays soup

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 Před 3 lety +128

      And then to make Fibonacci soup for tomorrow you have to take today's soup and yesterday's soup.
      But wait... how can you use yesterday's soup if you already used it for today's soup?

    • @malaquiasalfaro81
      @malaquiasalfaro81 Před 3 lety +32

      This is so funny why is no one liking this

    • @randomperson1418
      @randomperson1418 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MariOmor1true lol

    • @Win090949
      @Win090949 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MariOmor1 make a new soup and mix it with that soup?

    • @hatemykids1933
      @hatemykids1933 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MariOmor1 you dont wanna know

  • @bradensorensen966
    @bradensorensen966 Před 5 měsíci +307

    What’s neat about plants growing with the golden angle between their leaves or other parts is that they don’t have to be at the golden angle at the start. Leaves can adjust over time to maximize sunlight, settling into the golden ratio rather than forming it automatically.

    • @sarynium
      @sarynium Před 3 měsíci +2

      yes@@TheUnitAce

    • @dr.michaelj.stefano8113
      @dr.michaelj.stefano8113 Před 2 měsíci +7

      which is why it should have been mentioned that at least one of the most blatnatly obvious mechanisms for this is phototropism instead of some magnetism mechanism that was mentioned.

    • @BillyWitchDoctorDotCom
      @BillyWitchDoctorDotCom Před měsícem

      They follow a natural mathematical sequence that gets marginally closer and closer to the golden ratio over time.
      The sequence can become infinity close to the golden ratio, but it will never BE the golden ratio.

    • @RedLeg217
      @RedLeg217 Před měsícem +1

      Mixing logic with relativism. Nice.

  • @rezazazu
    @rezazazu Před 5 měsíci +114

    The paper leaf part was so amazing. Genuinely creative way of explaining science

    • @Iam_inevitabIe
      @Iam_inevitabIe Před 3 měsíci +3

      never expected the video to take that turn

  • @derfuchs3296
    @derfuchs3296 Před 2 lety +2499

    Him: Golden Ratio
    My brain: You mean Golden Spin?

  • @dazc
    @dazc Před 3 lety +2314

    Gyro and Johnny taking notes, then airdropping em to Gappy as we speak

  • @kspreetheunicorn6243
    @kspreetheunicorn6243 Před 7 měsíci +89

    In Stell Ball Run(jojo part 7) they achieve the perfect rotation, by spinning steel balls(as well as nails) in the golden ratio, which when done perfectly will never stop spinning.
    Probably not possible irl, but still felt the need to share since i couldnt find any jojo refrences.

    • @yeetbigly5827
      @yeetbigly5827 Před 25 dny +2

      Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering why everyone was bringing up JJBA.. though, the more I learn about it the more I feel like that show just does everything and anything lol

    • @millie.381
      @millie.381 Před 24 dny +3

      @@yeetbigly5827 EVERYTHING happens in jojo

  • @Artist_Keena
    @Artist_Keena Před rokem +278

    Thanks for explaining this in depth! One of my past art teachers seemed to obsess over the golden ratio, telling us to look for it in art, and most of the time when they pointed it out in works, I just couldn't see it or things didn't seem to line up perfectly, like the shell you mentioned. I've been wondering about it ever since, and finally, I have clarity!

    • @PinkishPlant
      @PinkishPlant Před 9 měsíci +25

      I felt the same way. I was looking at and was so confused what I was missing, it felt like the curve and squares were just drawn onto random parts of buildings and art, guess I was right

    • @samalass466
      @samalass466 Před 7 měsíci +8

      It honestly feels likr they just nitpick spots that fit their argument. Sometimes they just out it into a spot with open air nothing to back it up.

    • @gaerekxenos
      @gaerekxenos Před 7 měsíci +15

      Golden Ratio for art is BS. The actual necessary aspect is the concept of leading the eye around the canvas to retain attention and not lead the eye off the canvas elsewhere (unless that is the entire point of the work, which is another story). A lot of composition 'advice' regarding ratios and placement of content on a page is an attempt to "dumb down" or "simplify" everything into easily repeatable formulas, sort of like templates. Good for mass-produced and soul-less works, but not where/what you want to start off with if you are actually working with proper ideas/concepts that you want to convey

    • @lucianocastillo694
      @lucianocastillo694 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@gaerekxenoscause plants actually use the golden ratio for maximum energy efficiency, do you think we might also should follow a ratio? Or are you saying that if we try to follow that ratio, we’ll never come close, so be natural in things?

    • @ronniechilds2002
      @ronniechilds2002 Před 5 měsíci +5

      I had a similar experience. Some people--educated people--just try to shoehorn this Fibonacci business into everything, like every significant ancient structure ever built.

  • @shremp69
    @shremp69 Před 3 lety +1541

    The fact that his name is Joe just makes this even more Canon to JJBA

    • @Amuneh
      @Amuneh Před 3 lety +91

      I knew I'd find a jojo ref here

    • @creekline5009
      @creekline5009 Před 3 lety +43

      So I wasn't the only one who started watching this for jjba

    • @johnnyjoestarsan2239
      @johnnyjoestarsan2239 Před 3 lety +38

      Joe joe bizarre adventure

    • @bjmoreno043
      @bjmoreno043 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Amuneh yes

    • @thebard745
      @thebard745 Před 3 lety +18

      it took me less than 2 seconds to find a jojo reference

  • @matthiasfreaked
    @matthiasfreaked Před 3 lety +1864

    What if you wanted to learn about the golden ratio, but then gyro said:
    _lesson 5_

  • @simonsenoner3541
    @simonsenoner3541 Před 11 měsíci +61

    Love how you integrate comedy to get your lessons easier to digest... wasn't really sure what the Golden Number was all about, now it' s clear!

  • @Hritthik_N_S
    @Hritthik_N_S Před 7 měsíci +10

    φ + didn't ask + golden ratio

  • @ginlix8898
    @ginlix8898 Před 2 lety +4592

    damn. jojo got so popular that humans made the golden ratio in real life

    • @Romeo-le2ez
      @Romeo-le2ez Před 2 lety +22

      Luv u ani lr gito

    • @dariuscahyadi9607
      @dariuscahyadi9607 Před 2 lety +181

      As a human i can comfirm this

    • @Dexalium
      @Dexalium Před 2 lety +212

      As a confirm i can human this

    • @pikachu-jf2oh
      @pikachu-jf2oh Před 2 lety +114

      a confirm as this can I human.

    • @rymaix
      @rymaix Před 2 lety +60

      as a jojo fan on part 7 i can confirm this

  • @MedlifeCrisis
    @MedlifeCrisis Před 3 lety +3186

    OK but I DO want to watch that golden ratio documentary that was mentioned in the pre roll ad. The host looked a lot like Joe, weird.

  • @davidparker2173
    @davidparker2173 Před rokem +23

    A 5 to 6 proportion has an aesthetic quality for oil paintings I have preferred over the GR. Though for a long sided rectangle the GR is pristine. The GR enables much and is wondrous for designing a house, as it just makes everything seem to work quite easily. The GR really is an amazing phenomenon.

  • @GroovingPict
    @GroovingPict Před 8 měsíci +10

    I did pick the golden rectangle in the beginning, but only because I knew the "right" answer would be credit card shaped, so I looked for the most credit card looking rectangle... it didnt "feel" more special than the others. Everyone knows that the perfect rectangle shape is the one used for the A-series of paper sizes anyway, ie any rectangle with a ratio of 1:root 2

  • @greenman784
    @greenman784 Před 3 lety +545

    "Gyro, does this man know that technique?"
    "I don't know Johnny. I don't know."

  • @cliffmatthew8211
    @cliffmatthew8211 Před 3 lety +390

    This is spinning my head because it's too bizzare

  • @carpenterhillstudios8327
    @carpenterhillstudios8327 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Irrational numbers and ancient greeks bothered me until I realized what you mentioned in passing early in your video- "ratio" which requires two components. So it's not about the dividing of one into the other for a quotient but it is to consider the relationship itself which creates the geometric result. Geometry literally means "earth meausre'. It was decades ago now that I began to conceive of Phi as a geometric function and what fun I've had. The ancient architectures become clearer when you look through that lens. Great video and thank you for pushing through the myth a bit.

  • @4chuyin
    @4chuyin Před 7 hodinami +1

    using this for my project on golden ratios
    phi number 1:48
    irrational numbers 2:06
    euclid's findings 2:54
    golden triangle 4:12
    golden spiral 5:03
    fibonacci 6:28

  • @TheWanderstar
    @TheWanderstar Před 3 lety +1978

    I just found the word golden ratio in my maths textbook and I googled it and saw this vid so I clicked on it and now I feel like I'm in a cult or something.

  • @gyrozeppeli00
    @gyrozeppeli00 Před 2 lety +702

    When steel ball run finally got dropped, prepare yourselves to see golden ratio everywhere.

    • @D4_Four
      @D4_Four Před 2 lety +11

      And yes that's gonna be a Ten years to wait for

    • @naipsiefilderussatser4067
      @naipsiefilderussatser4067 Před 2 lety +8

      Yea 8-10 years later

    • @joyconbulb3743
      @joyconbulb3743 Před 2 lety +10

      @@naipsiefilderussatser4067 nah Id say 5 years at most since stone ocean is gonna release soon

    • @funkydong5315
      @funkydong5315 Před 2 lety +3

      @@joyconbulb3743 I mean horses are a pain to animate

    • @joyconbulb3743
      @joyconbulb3743 Před 2 lety +1

      @@funkydong5315 True but they could easily get some people who animated like attack on titan on board since they would be use to it. It would still take long but not no 10 years like some people are saying.

  • @amingatos
    @amingatos Před měsícem +5

    Saying its the elon musk of numbers is a statement that did not age well

  • @Oleg-mx8gr
    @Oleg-mx8gr Před 6 měsíci +4

    I love the fact that Derek paid tribute to Bolyai by mentionning him, even though he wasn't recognized as the cornerstone of the non-Euclidian geometry. We should appreciate people for who they are and thank them for doing their best.

  • @animationspace8550
    @animationspace8550 Před 3 lety +4638

    Can we have more of Joe doing parodies of History Channel

    • @besmart
      @besmart  Před 3 lety +863

      Sure! Sometimes it just has to be done

    • @Jesse__H
      @Jesse__H Před 3 lety +213

      🖐️🤨🖐️
      A L I E N S

    • @yokokurama5174
      @yokokurama5174 Před 3 lety +48

      Finally a comment not made by a mainstream sheep.

    • @abelcheng2073
      @abelcheng2073 Před 3 lety +11

      That would be awesome.

    • @TheAmethyz
      @TheAmethyz Před 3 lety +27

      Basically thing that some ppl think proves god actually is yet another evidence for evolution. Time always wins.

  • @MrTv-sc5tm
    @MrTv-sc5tm Před 2 lety +1654

    Thanks I needed to learn this, I'm in a horse race and a friend showed me the power this holds and I'm kinds struggling to get the hang of it

    • @arthurrafra9576
      @arthurrafra9576 Před 2 lety +188

      Don't worry, you would master it soon enough when you meet the president

    • @joeykitty8678
      @joeykitty8678 Před 2 lety +69

      I somehow misread that as "I'm a horse" and imagined you as the horse in the race... Idk, I guess I blame the creepy pineapple thing at the end of the video for kinda making my imagination run wild :P lol
      And also, good luck ! :)

    • @tammv2306
      @tammv2306 Před 2 lety +8

      @@joeykitty8678 🤣🤣🤣

    • @37rainman
      @37rainman Před rokem +12

      There is nothing about this to "get the hang of". It is horse hockey. Bet your friend has lost shitloads of money at horse race betting

    • @fazguy4547
      @fazguy4547 Před rokem +38

      For the unbased, jojo

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Před rokem +9

    I use PHI in my art cause it makes things just look nice. I just like rules based starting points for creative endeavours and PHi is one of my go to rules.

  • @iciu7712
    @iciu7712 Před rokem +8

    All I can hear is Gyro Zeppeli singing PIZZA MOTZARELLA

  • @yoyojackyo80
    @yoyojackyo80 Před 3 lety +1909

    I can’t believe that opening sequence lasted 30 seconds haha. Joe is surprisingly funny

    • @bludfyre
      @bludfyre Před 3 lety +6

      I found Uncle Carl to be funnier

    • @felicityggreene7831
      @felicityggreene7831 Před 3 lety +9

      Lol yeah, he had so much fun filming it, he had to show it again at the end! 😂

    • @kevinbuyks6788
      @kevinbuyks6788 Před 3 lety +9

      It could have been an intro of History Channel's Ancient Aliens 🤣 Mystery, Conspiracy, lunacy 🤣

    • @marcvanleeuwen5986
      @marcvanleeuwen5986 Před 3 lety +29

      Actually 32 seconds, which is almost 34. Aha! a Fibonacci number! Could that be coincidence??

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      @thewriteinpresident Před 3 lety

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  • @bucci6344
    @bucci6344 Před 2 lety +1361

    “This is the Golden Spiral”
    The comment section: *SPEEEEEEEN*

  • @roger7341
    @roger7341 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Historically τ and ρ were used to represent φ and 1/φ. I like that better because τ ρ = 1 and τ - ρ = 1, and all the identities are so much easier to derive.

  • @BernGoulart
    @BernGoulart Před 11 měsíci +7

    I don't think that I could have learned this any way else besides the way this video did, it was brilliant, super fun and as a plus I got a little smarter

  • @luizguilhermedesouzahilara6627

    Listen Joe, here goes our 5th and last lesson:
    The shortest route was a detour. It was the detour that was our shortest path!

  • @MasonGreenWeed
    @MasonGreenWeed Před 3 lety +256

    Lesson 5 Johnny : the shortest route is the detour

  • @evanwilson5027
    @evanwilson5027 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Subject I've been curious about for a while now. Thanks for making it easy to learn

  • @annimatesstuff
    @annimatesstuff Před 8 měsíci +2

    My math teacher sent us this as homework to watch lol

  • @morizzd
    @morizzd Před 3 lety +343

    "The world is a messy place" - Looking around my home: wow, how did he know

    • @saiku9081
      @saiku9081 Před 3 lety

      👁️👄👁️

    • @deheerschappij
      @deheerschappij Před 3 lety

      how did he know? Phi !!

    • @morizzd
      @morizzd Před 3 lety +1

      @@deheerschappij Oh no, I thought I had a chance to better myself. Damn universe

    • @RudolfJvVuuren
      @RudolfJvVuuren Před 3 lety

      Golden ratio baby!

    • @bestryfulhd2102
      @bestryfulhd2102 Před 3 lety

      thats why we have cancer , so we thank God for our not-messy bodies ,, if there was no cancer in people we would think our bodies are messy .
      this youtuber is clearly using science to tell us things are messy so we dont study it ,
      but when we know that things are well designed we will try to discover more ,, and everything scientist came to discover have seen the beauty of its design , and that if it moves a little bet from what its designed it get destructed.

  • @jojom38
    @jojom38 Před 3 lety +455

    I thought I would only watch it’s okay to be smart in school but now I’m using it to understand how a manga character works

  • @olutosinoseni1952
    @olutosinoseni1952 Před rokem +7

    I'm having a hard time finding out if this is a history lesson or a maths one. Very cool!

  • @MountainFisher
    @MountainFisher Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember as an engineering student before the magnificent invention of the Scientific Calculator by Hewlett Packard in the early 1970s doing math with a slide rule. Hard to believe the SR-71 was made before computers were as they are now, let alone calculators. Random processes do not pick the most efficient forms.

  • @BadassBobY
    @BadassBobY Před 3 lety +209

    Him : Did you pick this one?
    Me : No I didn't-
    Him : *Because this is the most aestheticly pleasing rectangle*
    Me : oh ok sorry 👀

  • @shonenchef7249
    @shonenchef7249 Před 3 lety +1333

    This video is gonna blow up after Jojo part 7 is animated

  • @morgangreene19
    @morgangreene19 Před rokem +6

    I think we just have a compulsive need to fit a chaotic world into a rigid structure. We often unknowingly attempt make sense of things that can’t make sense nature. Like images in a cloud.

  • @cgthayer
    @cgthayer Před 2 měsíci +1

    Stephen Wolfram of Mathematica has discussed this quite a bit: how the universe can start from such simple computation. I think what's really appealing here is that this is an interesting, seeming complicated number, and natural phenomenon that comes from very simple rules.

  • @weroleoify
    @weroleoify Před 3 lety +352

    I love PBS and never touched one of the math videos until now. This guy right here is the proof to "you don't hate math/are bad at math, you just got taught the wrong way".

    • @gyozakeynsianism
      @gyozakeynsianism Před 3 lety +15

      Learning math takes hard work and patience. A bad teacher can make it harder, but nothing makes up for hard work and patience.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 Před 3 lety +12

      I mean, I wouldn't say you really learn anything about math here. It's a good, concise explanation of the golden ratio that debunks some myths about it, but the math is used is very simple, and I say that as someone who hates math.

    • @BygoneT
      @BygoneT Před 2 lety +11

      Fundamentally you're not learning mathematics per se here. You're not gonna be able to understand most maths any better
      I gave up on maths of my own will because it was sucking up too much time, that's literally what everyone does to anything they don't like. The only reason anyone is bad at anything is non engagement

    • @tylermcnally8232
      @tylermcnally8232 Před 2 lety +4

      Everyone has the same building blocks in their brain and can all learn math to the same degree, it boils down to if your interested or not.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Před rokem

      @@gyozakeynsianism and that is the truth

  • @Gia1911Logous
    @Gia1911Logous Před 3 lety +316

    You've scrolled down enough to find my comment
    Well done
    Here are some tips:
    1: If you have the will, then do it.
    2: Work those muscles.
    3: Believe in the spin.
    4: Pay your respects. Spin your bullets in the golden ratio.
    5: The shortest route is the detour. It is the detour that will be your shortest path.

  • @mrmaybee
    @mrmaybee Před rokem +8

    As a youngster in college, my math prof of my analytic geometry course was amazed to run into me in the library on my way to check out D. W. Thompson's 'On Growth and Form'. It's a true classic; if this kind of thing interests you, it's still my first recommendation.

  • @dichterwald91
    @dichterwald91 Před 8 měsíci +2

    My friends argued with me when I tried say anything against this number. Thanks for criticism I was looking for!

  • @henrynewgate1775
    @henrynewgate1775 Před 2 lety +629

    Interesting how the only thing I knew about the golden rectangle before watching this video was Steel Ball Run's infinite spin

    • @Shawarma101
      @Shawarma101 Před 2 lety +43

      me too and tbh I never heard of Golden Rectangle until I read part7 I am not even joking I thought it was a manga thing and it didn't exist in real life :')

    • @saimongabamoguis4512
      @saimongabamoguis4512 Před 2 lety +8

      Same

    • @echmaster6029
      @echmaster6029 Před 2 lety +2

      Same

  • @cyanide6954
    @cyanide6954 Před 2 lety +674

    I love how the comment section just evolved into jojo. Everything is related to jojo nowadays

    • @jtg7496
      @jtg7496 Před 2 lety +44

      everything is golden ratio
      everything is jojo reference
      golden ratio is jojo reference

    • @cyanide6954
      @cyanide6954 Před 2 lety +11

      @@jtg7496 yes

    • @Donneman
      @Donneman Před 2 lety +15

      everything is a jojo reference

    • @Stickman_Productions
      @Stickman_Productions Před 2 lety +9

      Everything is a jojo siwa reference because things exist in the show and things exist out of the show

    • @thisisrex1676
      @thisisrex1676 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Stickman_Productions why does this make me physically recoil?

  • @ruelliotgd
    @ruelliotgd Před 7 měsíci +2

    Lesson 4: be respectful

  • @holloworacle3140
    @holloworacle3140 Před rokem +21

    Will this teach me to shoot my fingernails

    • @RealSekiroGamerz
      @RealSekiroGamerz Před 5 dny

      You need a stand to shoot but if you know these your shoot will be real accurate and powerful

  • @jakobsonprofaned5168
    @jakobsonprofaned5168 Před 3 lety +550

    "Our brain loves patterns, for example if we remember the position of a mouth, nose and eyes we later see faces everywhere"
    Amogus

    • @gifzwerk
      @gifzwerk Před 3 lety +54

      Get out of my head

    • @waspoppin4784
      @waspoppin4784 Před 3 lety +21

      S I L E N C E

    • @jesseklaver8905
      @jesseklaver8905 Před 3 lety +17

      Aaahhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhh,get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, grabs a 12 gauge shotgun, ends it all (like a boss)😎

    • @lebaeuhjunkyard4731
      @lebaeuhjunkyard4731 Před 3 lety +14

      📮

    • @user-yp5ko8us9j
      @user-yp5ko8us9j Před 3 lety +10

      Disgusting. Vile. Bring back tradition, reject modernity. Amogus shall fall, and Illuminati shall rise once more!

  • @samyakbankar5022
    @samyakbankar5022 Před rokem +1113

    ADMIT IT !
    ADMIT THAT STEEL BALL RUN IS YOUR FAV PART

  • @manog8713
    @manog8713 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Fantastic, open mided and realistic account of the hype of Golden Ratio. Well done.

    • @jacobtaylor8250
      @jacobtaylor8250 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I wonder why gravity causes the spiral of galaxys to be the same as these plants

  • @nikolaysamusik3149
    @nikolaysamusik3149 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great breakdown~ there is one thing however that you're missing ~ which is why our brains actually like spirals (and not just our brains, apparently, octopedes and pufferfish build spiral-like sandcastles to attract females) ~ which has to do with the way our primary visual cortex maps to our retina (which is, in essence, logarithmic) which means that spirals actually produce symmetric self-reinforcing waves of stimulation inside our V1 cortex.

  • @gentlemagala3829
    @gentlemagala3829 Před 2 lety +295

    "Spin your nails in the golden ratio!... then you should have the ability to harness the power of infinity"

  • @Elijah_Yinkledoink
    @Elijah_Yinkledoink Před 2 lety +861

    The Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio are a power couple.

  • @rbkishere
    @rbkishere Před 5 měsíci +2

    when i finished jjba sbr i never thought that there is such a beautiful process behind golden ratio.

  • @imnotaprofit1648
    @imnotaprofit1648 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I’m definitely gonna win the steel ball run now thanks dude

  • @sibil-khan621
    @sibil-khan621 Před 2 lety +157

    Now i can spin my steel balls on my horse and use the infinity

  • @matthew_thefallen
    @matthew_thefallen Před 3 lety +482

    "Ape brain like pretty pattern"
    - Joe

  • @bojackhorsingaround
    @bojackhorsingaround Před 11 měsíci

    I love your channel, often learn a lot.
    Wonderful film. Thank you!

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson Před 3 měsíci

    This was a really great video! I'm so glad I stayed until the end!

  • @KoeSeer
    @KoeSeer Před 3 lety +1232

    I love how this video became jojo fanbase gathering spot.

    • @amaruifayemi2450
      @amaruifayemi2450 Před 2 lety +34

      gyro is the only reason I clicked on the video

    • @officialgaming9203
      @officialgaming9203 Před 2 lety +1

      @@loturzelrestaurant gaming

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Před 2 lety

      @@officialgaming9203 Yes?
      The user 'Gaming', will 'help'?
      Yes?

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Před 2 lety

      @@officialgaming9203 Gaming will kick some 'Karens', if he knows that term?
      Battle some Sexists and kick them off YT?
      Which would be quite cool?

    • @officialgaming9203
      @officialgaming9203 Před 2 lety

      @@loturzelrestaurant gaming

  • @llgxz
    @llgxz Před 2 lety +283

    Literally anything: **exists**
    JoJo fans: "It's free real estate."

    • @aidanwoodward3975
      @aidanwoodward3975 Před 2 lety

      I think you fortnite because they steal *EVERYTHING*

    • @dragonic_ragecore
      @dragonic_ragecore Před 2 lety +4

      I agree man, I'm tired of anime fans screaming in my ear.

    • @gusty7153
      @gusty7153 Před 2 lety +9

      it's the golden anime

    • @angychillface6146
      @angychillface6146 Před 2 lety +6

      I mean this is true cuz this is free real estate

    • @Hrxxiti
      @Hrxxiti Před 2 lety +5

      @@dragonic_ragecore lol, you'll never get rid of us

  • @wendellwiggins3776
    @wendellwiggins3776 Před 9 měsíci +1

    what even more cool is that the size of the leaves as they grow up and out are PHI in size to the preceding leaf. This idea of Nature is to be as proficient as possible while exerting the least amount of energy so though not everything is exactly Phi, Natures strives to be. !

  • @amitdalal
    @amitdalal Před rokem +7

    One doesn't always know all the history of something before it gets named. That's especially true in mathematics where the same thing can be discovered independently. For example, what we call the Pythagorean theorem was known over a thousand years before Pythagoras in Old Babylonia, and known in both India and China about the time Pythagoras lived.
    It wasn't well known until recently that the Fibonacci sequence appeared in other places before Leonardo Pisano Fibonacci (1170-1250) included his rabbit problem in his arithmetic book, Liber Abaci, in 1202.
    About 50 years earlier Hemachandra (1089-1173) counted the number of ways a line of poetry can be composed of short syllables of length 1 and long syllables of length 2. A line of length 1 can only be a short syllable; one of length 2 either two shorts or 1 long; etc. The same sequence 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, ... results. Apparently Gopala had studied these numbers in about 1135, other Indian mathematicians as early as the 7th century, and perhaps even Pingala, the author of the Chandaḥśāstra, centuries before that.

  • @akairyu1291
    @akairyu1291 Před 3 lety +203

    Gyro Zeppeli aproves this video

  • @tommyvictorbuch6960
    @tommyvictorbuch6960 Před 2 lety +1093

    I find this extremely fascinating. As a photographer, I use the Golden Ratio all the time. It simply makes pictures better, no matter the genre.

    • @aur9035
      @aur9035 Před 2 lety +32

      How. How. how.

    • @theufakefe
      @theufakefe Před 2 lety +4

      So awesome!

    • @Michael-dx8qz
      @Michael-dx8qz Před 2 lety +62

      @@aur9035 change the rules of third to golden ratio

    • @shayanaman995
      @shayanaman995 Před 2 lety +62

      mans mastered spin

    • @houdinididiit
      @houdinididiit Před 2 lety +84

      @@aur9035 In most photo editing programs you can place a grid over your photo as you are cropping it. Well, the grid that overlays can either be - boxes as thirds or - you have the option of overlaying a Golden Ratio Spiral. I use it myself to size things up. I assume that's what be spoken of here. Hope that helps ✌️

  • @MrQuinnlord
    @MrQuinnlord Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is the best PBS channel I feel confident in saying that after 2 videos

  • @roger7341
    @roger7341 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Draw a regular decagon with unit edges. What is the radius of the circle circumscribed on the decagon?

  • @lenn939
    @lenn939 Před 3 lety +131

    TIL why “irrational numbers” are called “irrational.” I always thought it was a strange name but it makes a lot more sense now that I know it comes from “ratio.”

    • @sarathchandran3503
      @sarathchandran3503 Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/DIrvM1gcnPU/video.html
      Golden ratio
      More detailed explanation

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Před 2 lety +1

      Aloha.
      I thought this channel's comment-section/s, if any place,
      would have smarteristic and smarttastic people.
      So i wanted to ask your opinion of a Project of mine,
      trying to help youtube help itself - getting it to become less
      of what can only be described as 'Messy' without wanting
      to use hard swearing...
      P0rn, Racism, Sexism, Scam, Spam-Bots, P0rn-Spam-Bots
      and much more. Oh, and of course the new Kid in Town:
      The Covid-Denier/Mask-Hater.
      All of them are non-subtle (some more than others)
      and therefore easy to find.
      I used the reportbutton as it was originally intended;
      not as Cancel-Culture but to help.
      Just this week, i got 1 Covid-Denier-Channel (yes, the entire thing,
      not just 1 video) and 2 Open Racists (Users, not CZcamsrs) removed.
      And this feels good.
      No, its not a 'Wonder-Miracle-Solution!!', but who needs that? Do you need that?
      Yet, i feel confident about this enough to ask: Wanna join the Fun? The helping?
      Both?
      Sorry for the long comment and sorry there is no
      Miracle-Hyper-Super-Solution, but hey, its cost-free and
      totally-your-own-time-schedule, as well as just plain fun,
      so i hope such Package is good enough for you.
      Smart is in this channel's name, after all, so i hope you at least
      consider helping CZcams and the Internet... cause it sure as fluff could
      need the help, tbh...

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ani-yt4nf ?
      What?
      ?

    • @exposinghypocrites4827
      @exposinghypocrites4827 Před 2 lety

      @@loturzelrestaurant "The Covid-Denier/Mask-Hater." You're a brain washed dunce 🙄

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Před 2 lety +2

      @@exposinghypocrites4827 Your comment a week ago was pretty dumb.
      Not even sure how, but calling others brain washed is 'usually' dumb, so thats that.
      What was i brain-washed about, mate? Knowing that Vaccines are good and everyone should take them? Is that what i'm washed to believe?
      ...Oh buddy...

  • @glacierwolf2155
    @glacierwolf2155 Před 3 lety +384

    The golden ratio: _Exists._
    The JoJo fanbase: "Hippity hoppity, this mathematical concept is our property!"

    • @giftedguitarist161
      @giftedguitarist161 Před 3 lety +16

      Thank you so much, Now I know why my JoJo viewing friend mentioned this concept and was adamant about talking about it. Seems like my hesitation and skepticism were somewhat warranted.

    • @taterds7858
      @taterds7858 Před 3 lety +13

      @Captain Bruh hey man thats kinda rude

    • @Kongongongg
      @Kongongongg Před 3 lety +13

      @Captain Bruh no

    • @user-ee8br7jp7b
      @user-ee8br7jp7b Před 3 lety +6

      @Captain Bruh homestuck is 10x worse... believe me

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Před 3 lety +22

      @Captain Bruh
      If they’re capable of ruining the music for you, then did you really care about the music in the first place?

  • @mikemccartneyable
    @mikemccartneyable Před 9 měsíci +1

    Very good video. Small correction, the golden angle is 360 * 1/(Phi)^2

  • @basti5263
    @basti5263 Před 3 měsíci +1

    That intro hit me so hard, i was expecting the line: 'the golden ratio strikes back!'

  • @L4PLAC3_
    @L4PLAC3_ Před 3 lety +124

    thirty-five minutes ago, this was posted
    already seven thousand views
    im so glad im not the only one learning for fun

  • @aarav_sharma
    @aarav_sharma Před 3 lety +190

    Its official now "Jo"e has lost "it" And its "perfect"
    -Jo Mama

  • @MedEighty
    @MedEighty Před 11 měsíci +4

    I watched this on a 16 by 10 screen and it was beautiful.

  • @FrenchOpidum
    @FrenchOpidum Před 9 měsíci +1

    That intro is something I didn't know I needed

  • @TheKopakah
    @TheKopakah Před 3 lety +111

    there must be a cool/perfect way to get the "golden angle" on paper besides eyeballing it with your protractor

    • @besmart
      @besmart  Před 3 lety +75

      There is! You can divide a line into the golden ratio segments with just a ruler and a compass: www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/phi2DGeomTrig.html

    • @mehmeh3894
      @mehmeh3894 Před 3 lety +4

      Step 1: Draw a pineapple

    • @pg9193
      @pg9193 Před 3 lety +3

      if you're using a protractor, then you're probably not eyeballing it, no?

    • @a2pabmb2
      @a2pabmb2 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pg9193 You're eyeballing an irrational interval on an integer-denoted metric, so... yeah. You are.

    • @pg9193
      @pg9193 Před 3 lety

      @@a2pabmb2 good point, I see what you mean and agree. I guess there's no way of not eyeballing it, unless you're using a machine/computer

  • @why_though
    @why_though Před 3 lety +84

    "I don't know who closely studies artichokes"
    At that exact moment something died inside every food scientist watching this video.

  • @V8StealthBeetle
    @V8StealthBeetle Před 5 měsíci +2

    loved the content but enjoyed your delivery more... first time I've seen your channel... I'll be watching more

  • @sandysox
    @sandysox Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just love this...even this old brain is understanding your talk xxx

  • @StatedClearly
    @StatedClearly Před 3 lety +694

    Goldenly done!

  • @aner_bda
    @aner_bda Před 3 lety +64

    It always tickles me that the golden ratio is actually in fact an irrational number. It's like we can never have things just perfectly.

    • @putraduha3176
      @putraduha3176 Před 3 lety +12

      Maybe its the human construct of number thats wrong

    • @marcscattolin1554
      @marcscattolin1554 Před 3 lety +2

      There are loads of irrational numbers, that doesn't make phi that special.

  • @kyojima7190
    @kyojima7190 Před rokem +2

    Thanks to "Logarithmic Spiral" shape of the human inner-ear, we feel harmonics in music as we know it: some combinations of sounds (wavelengths) are pleasant to our ear, and some are not, so we feel disharmony. Imagine we had the linear (chromatic) ear, and all the music would sound completely different to us, with linear specter.

  • @michaeljurney8354
    @michaeljurney8354 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I don't know any geometry. But a 45 degree offset is .414. I acquired this number with a ruler, and I would say for a square with a size of 1, the diagonal is 1.414.

  • @botigamer9011
    @botigamer9011 Před 3 lety +254

    TL:DR
    You are increasingly likely to find a golden ratio in things, if you increase the number of things you measure, and you increase the allowable error bars. This is true for any ratio

    • @gilgabro420
      @gilgabro420 Před 3 lety +3

      What really bothered me is that he did not use averages.

    • @domhamai
      @domhamai Před 3 lety +17

      The golden ratio is a 'beautiful' proportion though, and just because we find stretched representations does not take away from why it is so intriguing in the first place.

    • @shoam2103
      @shoam2103 Před 3 lety +9

      Good tldr! In some cases, yes. In other cases, it's the most appropriate ratio for the situation. Similar to how e is the most natural exponential.

    • @p.9227
      @p.9227 Před 3 lety +13

      @@domhamai But many other ratios can be intriguing and beautiful too, like pi. It all depends on your perspective.

    • @domhamai
      @domhamai Před 3 lety +3

      @@p.9227 absolutely!

  • @submarinemagnet7965
    @submarinemagnet7965 Před 3 lety +59

    That part where he made us choose a rectangle... I feel the pain of snapping those in place where it's perfectly aligned AND it felt like it was a magic trick that he knew what I picked

    • @inr9751
      @inr9751 Před 3 lety +4

      I had no single idea what to pick, lol.

  • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
    @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Před 4 měsíci +3

    8:44 It would've been really spooky if Kepler had discovered it 10 years later than he did.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 3 lety +259

    You know what's also golden?
    This channel

    • @KaasIsLekker
      @KaasIsLekker Před 3 lety +2

      You're channel ;)

    • @cookiecrumbler2345
      @cookiecrumbler2345 Před 3 lety +11

      @@KaasIsLekker y o u a r e c h a n n e l

    • @FenrizNNN
      @FenrizNNN Před 3 lety +9

      How can people still mess "you're" with "your"?

    • @KaasIsLekker
      @KaasIsLekker Před 3 lety +3

      @@FenrizNNN people can still mess with auto correct :) I will leave it like that but thanks for the tip :D

    • @FizzyToni
      @FizzyToni Před 3 lety

      Shower :)

  • @catalinasirbu3311
    @catalinasirbu3311 Před 2 lety +364

    Cant believe that i watched a vid about math that (somehow) taught me more than school did.Also cool jojo reference.

    • @juanma890
      @juanma890 Před 2 lety +3

      Is mista boy or girl, pleade answer my cuestion, i was living whit this so for several months, i cant sleep good because this interrogant, please help me

    • @smdll22
      @smdll22 Před 2 lety +7

      @@juanma890 male

    • @catalinasirbu3311
      @catalinasirbu3311 Před 2 lety +7

      @@juanma890 hes a italian,good sir

    • @octazone2558
      @octazone2558 Před 2 lety +1

      @@catalinasirbu3311 FEMALE

    • @spidyboi9097
      @spidyboi9097 Před 2 lety

      PoV:știi română

  • @matthewevans9523
    @matthewevans9523 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Your diagram 7:53 is wrong. The top arrow should start from month two. Pedantic but threw me for a second!! Great channel btw

  • @khumbochiletso2039
    @khumbochiletso2039 Před 28 dny +1

    why am i only finding you now - my life just made sense with this one video

  • @mariozgjani6349
    @mariozgjani6349 Před 3 lety +49

    As a Greek person I feel a little bit happy about the fact he said "the Greeks AND the mathematicians" as if every Greek was just doin math as a hobby
    We da smart people

    • @putraduha3176
      @putraduha3176 Před 3 lety +17

      Your central bank clearly doesn't do it for the past decade

    • @emsa5034
      @emsa5034 Před 3 lety +9

      @@putraduha3176 woah that took an abrupt turn

    • @papasscooperiaworker3649
      @papasscooperiaworker3649 Před 3 lety

      @@putraduha3176 Elaborate.

    • @ni3070
      @ni3070 Před 3 lety +5

      Good for you that you made name, Indians barely get any credit

    • @RandomAmbles
      @RandomAmbles Před 3 lety +1

      Eh, yall mostly just rediscovered Babylonian stuff. Seriously, name a Greek math development off the top of your head: Pythagorean theorem? -Nah. Euclidian stuff? -Nah. The Greeks did some amazing work, don't get me wrong, but they aren't the only smart people out there by a long shot.

  • @som3346
    @som3346 Před 3 lety +428

    Jojo fans already know this
    The golden spin

  • @ChasOnErie
    @ChasOnErie Před 2 měsíci +1

    I had a design problem for the compression of a rubber part and a metal shell length … in a since of frustration I applied the golden ratio to the design dimension …. DESIGN WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL !!!!

  • @danknfrshtv
    @danknfrshtv Před 6 měsíci +2

    The "phi-ncone/phi-napple" gag earned a new sub 😂