What Russia's war means for the International Space Station

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  • Can the US and Russia still collaborate in space?
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    The International Space Station has been orbiting above us for the last 20 years. It’s been home to astronauts from more than a dozen different countries - but mostly Americans and Russians. The two former “Space Race” countries control the main parts of the station. The science done there has required close collaboration and so it’s been largely insulated from politics on Earth.
    But Russia’s invasion of Ukraine may change that. The two countries have agreed to cooperate through 2024… but after that, the future of the space station is uncertain.
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Komentáře • 2,3K

  • @chansherly212
    @chansherly212 Před 2 lety +8833

    When you're in space you're not from russia or usa, you're from earth

    • @vinnieg6161
      @vinnieg6161 Před 2 lety +193

      If Putin wants to do something he'll do it, sometimes just in spite.

    • @marse5729
      @marse5729 Před 2 lety +134

      I bet Putin would immediately withdraw from Ukraine if he read this.

    • @start2panic829
      @start2panic829 Před 2 lety +10

      Nice

    • @Kylirr
      @Kylirr Před 2 lety +13

      No I don't think those things are mutually exclusive

    • @Anonymous-qb4vc
      @Anonymous-qb4vc Před 2 lety +60

      Out of the world thinking

  • @duckamuck1756
    @duckamuck1756 Před 2 lety +4117

    As a Nasa Engineer who works with the crew of the ISS, I can tell you two things, their relationship in space is as good as ever, but even more important is that the ISS was purposefully built such that both countries cannot survive on the ISS without each other... The Russian segments control the thrust needed to maintain orbit and the US segmente controls the life support systems.

    • @kentershackle1329
      @kentershackle1329 Před 2 lety +114

      Hence to troll vid Russian made..🤣. Its like ..ok, we gonna decouple.. u can still breathe till the s.station burns . Bye.bye.. waving from porthole. sick.🤣
      Anyways agreed its not gonna happen.

    • @vampcaff
      @vampcaff Před 2 lety +33

      sure you are...

    • @vimicito
      @vimicito Před 2 lety +296

      @@vampcaff on the internet nobody cares if you're a dog. In other words, people don't owe you a proof of who they are. Just take the rest of the statement and move on.

    • @nwonomad
      @nwonomad Před 2 lety +7

      Then you should know that it's being decommissioned in 2024

    • @nwonomad
      @nwonomad Před 2 lety +8

      @@vimicito Why would you take a statement from a liar? (So if you believe someone to be lying you would ignore what they say)

  • @Ddansk1111
    @Ddansk1111 Před 2 lety +494

    The International Space Station to me is how I always envisioned the future of the human race, collaboration, trust, and banding together to achieve a common astronomical (lol) goal in science and exploration. It's sci fi stuff made real. I hope some form of ISS continues in my lifetime, even if it ends up being an international moon base.

    • @garymericano
      @garymericano Před 2 lety +1

      250 miles up ≠ ❝astronomical❞, especially when we supposedly went 250,000 miles and back safely multiple times between 1969 and 1972? If this is how hard science and technology regress due to cooperation, let's add India's space program to the ISS and maybe we'll be able to get it to orbit at sea level!

    • @Othorius
      @Othorius Před 2 lety +2

      @@garymericano @youprobablymissedthepoint

    • @Othorius
      @Othorius Před 2 lety +1

      Don’t mind if I steal ur comment to use as a symbol in a sci book I’ll write ;)

    • @cestlextase
      @cestlextase Před 2 lety +4

      end capitalism.

    • @siritio3553
      @siritio3553 Před 2 lety +4

      @@garymericano There's a difference between a rocket that goes there and back and a freaking space station with tons of scientific and life support equipment on board...

  • @Gameknight2169
    @Gameknight2169 Před 2 lety +367

    I love how the ISS was meant as a place free from politics and shenanigans, just science.

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety +5

      Gameknight...What we failed to do was build a second one just for politics.
      Any world leader could only declare war on another if they spent a month up there with their adversary.
      Like kindergarten for the world.
      Edited to correct autocorrect.

    • @zappyapp
      @zappyapp Před 2 lety +1

      @@truthsRsung why...?

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety

      @@zappyapp ...no.

    • @zappyapp
      @zappyapp Před 2 lety +1

      @@truthsRsung what...?

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety

      @@zappyapp ...nope.

  • @expandedhistory
    @expandedhistory Před 2 lety +5423

    As a History teacher, you don’t understand how amazing your videos are Vox and how much they come in handy. Watching my students faces just glued onto the screens with fascination while still learning something interesting and educational is just something that I will always appreciate. Please keep up the quality work as always.

    • @FishFeet213
      @FishFeet213 Před 2 lety +37

      Yea my teacher showed me a video of him

    • @sethkoch3745
      @sethkoch3745 Před 2 lety +64

      Wait you’re a History teacher and also a History content creator? How do you have time to do both!?!?

    • @FishFeet213
      @FishFeet213 Před 2 lety +20

      @@sethkoch3745 i guess she is thats kind of cool

    • @expandedhistory
      @expandedhistory Před 2 lety +70

      @@sethkoch3745 Great question! It’s definitely not easy doing both but when you have a passion for teaching and have a passion for making quality History videos for people interested, then it becomes something actually enjoyable. Great question though!

    • @Electric__
      @Electric__ Před 2 lety +10

      @@expandedhistory people like you are great, they make my favourite subject possible!

  • @karthik.mishra
    @karthik.mishra Před 2 lety +3602

    I hope they don’t politicise science, and that they continue making such transnational collaboration.

    • @depilot2035
      @depilot2035 Před 2 lety +17

      Ye

    • @ramr7051
      @ramr7051 Před 2 lety +117

      It'll be hard this time around. Putin went too far, and the west went all in with sanctions.

    • @lsr1238
      @lsr1238 Před 2 lety +145

      It already has with vaccines.

    • @romaneo789
      @romaneo789 Před 2 lety +93

      @@lsr1238 and global warming

    • @BigBrotherMars
      @BigBrotherMars Před 2 lety +11

      Bruh who spells politicize "pOlitiCiSe"

  • @emirvmendoza
    @emirvmendoza Před 2 lety +165

    "We are scientists, Dr. Floyd. Our governments are enemies. We are not." -
    2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984)

  • @letsdoodlesomethinghome3404

    We often think we’re tough enough to ‘lone wolf’ a problem, but it’s shocking how much more we can achieve (and faster) when we put our differences aside and actually work together… it’s rlly sad when a small issue comes in the way of a big change/our future.

  • @tylerhe
    @tylerhe Před 2 lety +2306

    A lot of people are forgetting that Soyuz was groundbreaking back in the day much like how SpaceX is today. Though innovation does not wait for lady time, and it shows.

    • @BigBrotherMars
      @BigBrotherMars Před 2 lety +6

      No one cares tho

    • @MrKfleong
      @MrKfleong Před 2 lety +245

      @@BigBrotherMars you may not

    • @r3dpowel796
      @r3dpowel796 Před 2 lety +31

      I am sorry Dragon capsule are not ground breaking.

    • @TheRedRobin96
      @TheRedRobin96 Před 2 lety +93

      @@r3dpowel796 Nah they're pretty groundbreaking. When they explode or crash into the Earth they break the ground up quite a bit. The Starships too.

    • @nati7728
      @nati7728 Před 2 lety

      Space X is not ground breaking, all of the tech was developed by NASA. The difference is that any new efficiency improvements are no longer available to the public, they're privately owned by a guy with an annoying twitter account. Big mistake.

  • @RealEngineering
    @RealEngineering Před 2 lety +1741

    Interesting to see how Vox and us covered this topic differently!

    • @randomname596
      @randomname596 Před 2 lety +4

      Agree

    • @darkless60
      @darkless60 Před 2 lety +19

      Was waiting for this comment after seeing your video yesterday!

    • @worldoftancraft
      @worldoftancraft Před 2 lety +8

      Hello mister «we talk about nothing else, but achievements of Ænglish world».

    • @malahammer
      @malahammer Před 2 lety +2

      @@worldoftancraft English world? I'm sure there's a bit lost in translation here?

    • @Baxtexx
      @Baxtexx Před 2 lety +1

      RE was better imo 😃

  • @lawerencelinton6596
    @lawerencelinton6596 Před 2 lety +28

    I like how even tho Russia and the us have conflict on earth their astronauts can still work well together in space. What happens on earth stays on earth. In space we're all on the same side.

  • @lordsiomai
    @lordsiomai Před 2 lety +3

    ISS and also the scientists on Antarctica were actually the first ones on my mind when this war broke out. Thank you for covering this rarely talked about topic

  • @anthonywolf943
    @anthonywolf943 Před 2 lety +957

    The ISS operates like a old ship at sea. Problems back home mattered little and trust the captain!

    • @AndrewPonti
      @AndrewPonti Před 2 lety +48

      And what a thing of beauty she is. How many of us Millennials have been inspired by it because we grew up learning about it and all the amazing things it does for us on earth and the future of space travel.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 2 lety +22

      Exactly do earthly troubles still matter when you've left Earth?

    • @RandomDude10000
      @RandomDude10000 Před 2 lety +2

      Who’s the captain though?

    • @flutee6162
      @flutee6162 Před 2 lety +13

      @@RandomDude10000 That would be democracy of course

    • @AndrewPonti
      @AndrewPonti Před 2 lety +4

      @@RandomDude10000 probably Kirk. Or Picard?

  • @rafaelperalta1676
    @rafaelperalta1676 Před 2 lety +672

    It's amazing how durable the ISS and how much of an engineering marvel it is. Also, these people are amazing. I just hope the two countries leave the space relations intact even after ISS retires.

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Před 2 lety +16

      A lot of the original hardware has been replaced over the years, like the batteries that store power from the solar panels. It takes a lot of maintenance in spite of how durable the equipment and hardware is.

    • @stadtrepublikmulhausen4121
      @stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 Před 2 lety +9

      On the contrary i think a new space race is the only way to encourage significant investment into NASA. I personally think that the ARTEMIS programme will probably delayed a lot until a Chinese moon landing kickstart a new space race.

    • @rafaelperalta1676
      @rafaelperalta1676 Před 2 lety +3

      @@CountArtha yes, almost any machine needs maintenance anyway. Much simpler things like cars, computers need it so it makes sense for hardwares and whatnot to be replaced over time. Still it doesn't change the fact that it is indeed durable.

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch Před 2 lety

      Molds are growing up there, a thing that they need to get in control.
      The ISS is a great achievement for the world, no politics should be allowed to threaten it.

    • @Zommiee
      @Zommiee Před 2 lety

      @@stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 SpaceX is leading the way to a new space race for america, NASA knows they cannot progress with politics hindering their capabilities so they've relied on the private sectors to do it for them.

  • @user-rs7dv7wy5l
    @user-rs7dv7wy5l Před rokem +107

    The space program shows that Russia and the United States are able to effectively exist with each other. We need to cooperate more and compete less. It is a pity that our governments are not even trying to follow this path.

    • @moderndavinci6599
      @moderndavinci6599 Před rokem +25

      It's a pity Russia declared war on Ukraine...

    • @pixel8596
      @pixel8596 Před rokem +6

      If I remember correctly Russia invaded Ukraine

    • @OsnoloVrach
      @OsnoloVrach Před rokem +3

      @@pixel8596 good

    • @user-ww9hp9fo5n
      @user-ww9hp9fo5n Před rokem +4

      I sincerely wish peace in the USA, Europe, China, Russia and peace in North korea, South korea
      There is no winner at the end of this fight

    • @whkn
      @whkn Před rokem

      @Viper 6 who did?

  • @XavierGuillaume
    @XavierGuillaume Před 2 lety

    Thank you! I was wondering this exact question!

  • @randyrajavi7138
    @randyrajavi7138 Před 2 lety +253

    Dmitry: I sugest to USA to bring their astronauts to the ISS using trampoline"
    Elon : " The trampoline is working!" 😂

    • @Chip4576
      @Chip4576 Před 2 lety +29

      The NASA ppl were like: "Oh no..." lol

    • @kevinduliesco5468
      @kevinduliesco5468 Před 2 lety +1

      I don't understand

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Před 2 lety +24

      @@kevinduliesco5468 It wasn't a very diplomatic thing to say.
      In 2014 Rogozin had said: "After analyzing the sanctions against our space industry, I suggest to the USA to bring their astronauts to the International Space Station using a trampoline." In other words, "We know you need us, and you know you need us, so we're calling your bluff on these sanctions." Rogozin's personal bank account had been sanctioned and he wasn't allowed to travel to the United States, so it was his way of lashing out.
      When the first manned Dragon launched in 2020, a reporter asked Bridenstine if he'd talked to Rogozin now that we no longer needed Soyuz, and he gave a very tactful politician answer about "continuing our great partnership" with Russia, and then Mad Scientist Elon Musk says "Yeah, the _TRAMPOLINE_ is working!"
      Elon doesn't think much of the Russians and how they've been taking advantage of our taxpayers these past 20 years or so. He also has a grudge because they treated him very disrespectfully when he tried to buy some of their hardware.

    • @kevinduliesco5468
      @kevinduliesco5468 Před 2 lety +2

      @@CountArtha oh now I get it,thanks:)

    • @greattime860
      @greattime860 Před 2 lety +2

      Whoever leads in IT and artificial intelligence will dominate the world.
      Why does China build it's own Space Station?
      European Space Agency was open to China's inclusion,
      but the US was against it.
      US didn’t kick out Russia because
      NASA is dependent on Russian crew capsules
      when US shuttles were grounded after its failure.
      Putin withdraws from ISS in 2025 because
      it’s reaching the end of its functional life.
      Chinese Space Station’s one-fifth the mass of the ISS but it’s more spacious
      it’s fitted with wifi-connection
      video calling from the space station to earth
      shorter travel time from two days
      increase the number of automated and remote-controlled systems
      But we’re expected to believe that the US intends to defend the "rules-based order"
      that Russia and China are posing a challenge to.

  • @HughMann989
    @HughMann989 Před 2 lety +568

    Science, especially the aerospace science should never be political, unless two countries are directly at war with each other there should be constant cooperation

    • @pyrotechnicalbirdman5356
      @pyrotechnicalbirdman5356 Před 2 lety +8

      The world seems to think otherwise.

    • @medstudent468
      @medstudent468 Před 2 lety +27

      Same could be said about the banking system

    • @PEK-97
      @PEK-97 Před 2 lety

      I sure hope that's true. Totally not like the fact that Tiangong exists because the US bans China from joining the ISS, fearing "espionage".

    • @jujuu1339
      @jujuu1339 Před 2 lety +5

      lol, global warming and vaccines

    • @cheekhenliew7628
      @cheekhenliew7628 Před 2 lety

      US rejected China's participation in ISS had already brought politics to aerospace

  • @benbowers3613
    @benbowers3613 Před 2 lety

    A shred of hope I really needed at the moment. Thanks

  • @OriginalThisAndThat
    @OriginalThisAndThat Před rokem +4

    Its sad how power and ego can destroy humanity. We would be stronger together no matter what.

  • @yonatanchapal7800
    @yonatanchapal7800 Před 2 lety +334

    This is the most interesting time in the space field since the space race

  • @aadaman
    @aadaman Před 2 lety +420

    I’m not a big fan of Musk, but given the context, that trampoline joke was funny I can’t lie
    Edit: Context: 4:42 and 7:20

    • @sevenhelmets
      @sevenhelmets Před 2 lety +88

      The dead silence immediately after was freaking hilarious. NASA probably wondering what they could or should say in response that wouldn’t cause an international incident….lol

    • @mzple
      @mzple Před 2 lety +56

      Not a big fan of Elon Musk himself as a person, but you do have to give him substantial credit for Spacex and Tesla, specifically Spacex for reviving space exploration.

    • @koiyujo1543
      @koiyujo1543 Před 2 lety +16

      @@mzple even to how he was able to figure out how to lower launch costs with the falcon 9 and soon star ship

    • @ayylmao3910
      @ayylmao3910 Před 2 lety

      Giving so much control to private companies is a mistake. Specially when mankind is only starting space exploration. No one wants to see companies defacto owning planets in the future, with their own laws. The good news is that they are fair game in space. Russians could blow spacex stations without repercussions.

    • @kevinduliesco5468
      @kevinduliesco5468 Před 2 lety +1

      @@koiyujo1543 and soon commercial Space exploration or at least travel

  • @The_hampster
    @The_hampster Před 2 lety +12

    7:27 OMG I LAUGHED SO HARD😂😂😂
    Edit:I never got so many likes thanks so much

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Před rokem +5

    It's not Russia's war. The US Imperialists started it with the Midan coup d'etat in 2014. NATO started it with its expanionist policies.
    The US dropped many anti-arms-race treatise and wanted and did install anti-missile systems in Rumania and Poland.

  • @JessicaReinke
    @JessicaReinke Před 2 lety +30

    This is exactly the question I’ve been asking since the war started! Thanks for this video

  • @Pixplayer0
    @Pixplayer0 Před 2 lety +34

    Elon: the trampoline is working
    Dmitry Rogozin : you know I was joking right?

    • @internetexplorerchan2697
      @internetexplorerchan2697 Před 2 lety

      Well Russia's responsibility on ISS is a massive joke, the current war is a sign to broke their ISS relations. Science runs the reality, but politics manage it. These innocent and pretenders, reveal your motives!!

  • @trapperjohn6089
    @trapperjohn6089 Před 2 lety +14

    Regardless of what happens on the ground, you can count on the space station crew to look out for each other.

  • @rachielg1323
    @rachielg1323 Před 2 lety

    I've been meaning to ask this since the war thanks

  • @shawn.champagne
    @shawn.champagne Před 2 lety +305

    Man such a shame that these two countries are having these political conflicts back down on Earth. The United States and Russia have some of the most brilliant and talented people on the planet. I can't imagine a future where these two would refuse to cooperate in the endless boundaries of space. I really hope the cooperation continues.

    • @furinick
      @furinick Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah the russians do seem to be good at slapping whatever they have to barely achieve what is needed (check: all of russian ww2 and post war military technology) while america seems to be better at making expensive but very efficient and stuff (prob wrong but im just trying to give russians some credit), shame russia is tainted by corruption and totalitarianism

    • @nicholasvsjesse
      @nicholasvsjesse Před 2 lety +9

      Not just on the planet...

    • @Anas-rx9zs
      @Anas-rx9zs Před 2 lety

      Gonna be hard with the elitist mindset that the west always has followed. It thinks it can do anything without repurcussions and I am someone from the westblock. A little research will just show how hypocritical the west is.

    • @boilingman4357
      @boilingman4357 Před 2 lety

      Well Russia had but it has the "brains" leak from the moment the USSR collapsed so they are citizens of America Japan Germany and many other developed countries

    • @saphactis776
      @saphactis776 Před rokem

      where do you get this notion about intelligent people in russia? Most of them are only stolen by russians and originate from neighboring countries

  • @p_a_t_h6237
    @p_a_t_h6237 Před 2 lety +67

    6:57 we don't just need international cooperation in space, we need international cooperation on earth as well. How else are we going to beat climate warming?

    • @ramr7051
      @ramr7051 Před 2 lety +2

      Virtue signaling comment award

    • @CaptainM792
      @CaptainM792 Před 2 lety +2

      The question is, what can we do to promote international cooperation between governments? Would confirmation of alien civilizations help?

    • @markofsaltburn
      @markofsaltburn Před 2 lety +7

      @@ramr7051 The only person who’s signalling here is you, and you’re not signalling anything of use to anyone.

    • @p_a_t_h6237
      @p_a_t_h6237 Před 2 lety +2

      @@CaptainM792 probably not, i think they still would fight each other on who will fight the aliens

    • @erikanders3343
      @erikanders3343 Před 2 lety

      There is no beating climate change, its too late we have to adapt to the changes and fix the atmosphere over time

  • @spino-ace
    @spino-ace Před 2 lety

    I was just wondering about this thanks

  • @PetMasterPsx
    @PetMasterPsx Před 2 lety

    You are the source of my joy, the center of my world and the whole of my heart

  • @WhosTose
    @WhosTose Před 2 lety +61

    People on ISS serve a mission, not a country

  • @JosephAAmara
    @JosephAAmara Před 2 lety +10

    The set up for the trampoline line was masterfully done. Nice.

  • @TheTrainmobile
    @TheTrainmobile Před 2 lety +8

    I'm so excited for a brand new ISS. Imagine all sorts of technology we can put on it! I love the old ISS, but it needs to be replaced. Maybe several replicas can be built on Earth and then transported to museums in all the countries that contributed to the project. It's a milestone in space exploration.

    • @petrovichiphoneovich7587
      @petrovichiphoneovich7587 Před rokem

      Лучше мкс не разбирать, и не сжигать в атмосфере, лучше перегнать её подальше от земли , и оставить её на высокой орбите, как памятник.

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 Před rokem

      Tiangong could act as the base, Shame the US doesn't colloberate with China
      Since the US isn't focusing on LEO now, they could send just one or two spare modules, Along with Russia and ESA

  • @freundschaft870
    @freundschaft870 Před rokem

    Really cool Vox. Glad you guys made this!

  • @piesy
    @piesy Před 2 lety +42

    What a fantastic trampoline

  • @pavelmyshov464
    @pavelmyshov464 Před 2 lety +32

    I am russian from Moscow. I hope collaboration in space & science will keep going. All the conflicts between our politicians are temporal, our development as a united humanity will last on

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Před 2 lety

      No offense to you, but I think Mr. Rogozin has burned too many bridges with the United States to keep this partnership going past the ISS. Russia doesn't have the resources to pull her own weight in future space endeavors anyway, so the Russian space program will probably be included as a junior partner in the next big Chinese push to the Moon.

    • @pavelmyshov464
      @pavelmyshov464 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CountArtha Hopefully Mr. Rogozin is not forever in charge of Roscosmos, so as his boss Mr. Putin in charge of Russia

    • @pavelmyshov464
      @pavelmyshov464 Před 2 lety +2

      @Zaydan Naufal Its ok for now, however the sanctions will have a serious effect in a middle to long term period

    • @pavelmyshov464
      @pavelmyshov464 Před 2 lety

      @@victord9814 he is not my emperor :) he is a dictator who illegally seized political power via lies and fear

  • @darrenvarley105
    @darrenvarley105 Před rokem

    the spaceX launches have been amazing to watch live!! I watched them on twitch

  • @daliaamr9075
    @daliaamr9075 Před rokem

    Thanks for this documentary

  • @walterroux291
    @walterroux291 Před 2 lety +29

    "The Trampoline is working!"
    Haha, Oh Elon, what a memelord.

  • @MrSpankdamonkey117
    @MrSpankdamonkey117 Před 2 lety +88

    This was an interesting video, but I find the lack of a comment on the fact that the US demanded China not be part of the ISS from the beginning to be a glaring omission. This is the reason the Chinese have constructed their own space station, and that Russia will now collaborate with them instead

    • @batman_2004
      @batman_2004 Před 2 lety +16

      Gotta show us in good light.

    • @nick-ul6sw
      @nick-ul6sw Před 2 lety +4

      Yep exactly what I was thinking

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 Před 2 lety

      a chinese janitor working in a chinese space lab can't even use a nasa owned toilet without approval directly from the us congress(which hardly ever gives approval). the us has effectively banned its own space scientists from having any kind of professional relationships at all with their chinese counterparts. its gone to a ridiculous extent, to the point where, there was an open, freely streamed online, conference with space scientists all over the world, but chinese scientists were banned because it took place in a nasa owned building. this was opposed to by many scientists from around the world, many of whom refused to go in protest to this excluding of the chinese in a open event that has nothing to do with any secret information or security applications.

    • @batman_2004
      @batman_2004 Před 2 lety

      @@mxn1948 your comment is deleted.

    • @user-zy5uv8bh4f
      @user-zy5uv8bh4f Před 2 lety +10

      I have to say that china is lucky to have long term leader, so we can have long term goal. I read about US president keep changing NASA's focus (moon, mars, moon again).

  • @jimmyward7038
    @jimmyward7038 Před rokem

    This situation has only gotten more complicated and fascinating

  • @saucenado4844
    @saucenado4844 Před 2 lety +3

    I am so excited for the missions to moon and the space stations which would be way more advanced because of our current technology

  • @khalilahd.
    @khalilahd. Před 2 lety +22

    There’s so much uncertainty and politics in science now. It’s so worrying ☹️

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Před 2 lety

      There always has been. Thats the entire reason behind going to the moon.
      The more we politicize science, the further were gonna go.

    • @Usual_User
      @Usual_User Před 2 lety

      Politicians is one who funds science in their countries

  • @honkhonk8009
    @honkhonk8009 Před 2 lety +21

    6:43
    an ISS equivalent but on the moon, would be genuinely amazing.

    • @crusanosicus562
      @crusanosicus562 Před rokem

      Ye the lunar gateway station, it'd be like a half way point to mars

    • @wafflestcattash4818
      @wafflestcattash4818 Před rokem +1

      @@crusanosicus562 or you could just build and launch the rockets off the moon as the moon has a lower gravity And no atmosphere

  • @Phosphorite05
    @Phosphorite05 Před rokem +2

    I like this. In space issues on earth do not matter. You are here for the progress of humanity and these short term problems do not matter.

  • @vissanuwongsangta205
    @vissanuwongsangta205 Před rokem

    Capture and record video wherever I am.🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🇹🇭🙏thank you very much

  • @NoelBode
    @NoelBode Před 2 lety +136

    Abandoning international cooperation for private-sector dependency is the most dystopian timeline.

    • @AndrewPonti
      @AndrewPonti Před 2 lety +20

      That's exactly my thought too!! There always needs to be "official" stations and ships that are not subject to the whims of egotistical and selfish billionaires.

    • @Apostasy362
      @Apostasy362 Před 2 lety +11

      Sure. Never mind that the private sector does it better, faster, more efficiently, and above all cheaper than the government ever did.
      I submit to you that it's much more dystopian to abandon the benefits of the private sector in favor of a bureaucracy that is known for perennially running programs behind schedule and over budget.

    • @AndrewPonti
      @AndrewPonti Před 2 lety +29

      @@Apostasy362 I’m not in favor of one over the other, but too much either way is bad … to your point, government overreach is bad and so it too much private sector. That’s why the working together of both is crucial. I get it, I work for local government and it drives me nuts sometimes… but I also see why it’s needed to keep check on things and (hopefully) have the citizen’s best interest at heart. In the end private sector only cares about money, so that’s also dangerous. You gotta know that with record profits during a pandemic for billionaires and somehow they turned it away from themselves as part of the issue. Balance in all things .

    • @Apostasy362
      @Apostasy362 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AndrewPonti "In the end private sector only cares about money, so that’s also dangerous."
      How is that dangerous? Private sector corporations answer to the market as well as their shareholders. Who do the bureaucrats answer to? To paraphrase Ayn Rand, if you abandon money as a means of dealing with other people, your only alternative is the point of a gun.
      To address your larger point, I find little if any fault with the way things are right now. NASA is working *with* SpaceX. NASA provided the investment capital and infrastructure. SpaceX used it wisely and frugally and developed outstanding hardware and systems that are literally the envy of the world. If that's not a win-win, I don't know what is.

    • @NoelBode
      @NoelBode Před 2 lety +14

      ​@@Apostasy362 I submit to you that it's much more dystopian to abandon the benefits of international governmental cooperation in favor of conglomerations that are predisposed toward non-competitiveness, dismissal of externalities, tax evasion, and human rights violations.
      (There's no point in actually debating this with you in CZcams comments, so I won't. I'm just hoping to briefly illustrate the inefficacy of the rather narrow-scoped, absolutist submission you gave. Cheers.)

  • @jasperxmaster9703
    @jasperxmaster9703 Před 2 lety +24

    My hope is that one day we could send the planet's leaders up there. Have them experience that same affect that so many astronauts experience when they see the whole world as it is. Without borders.

    • @zixvirzjghamn737
      @zixvirzjghamn737 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah no one gets nuked in space

    • @jasperxmaster9703
      @jasperxmaster9703 Před 2 lety +6

      @@zixvirzjghamn737 I admire how badly u are at understanding points

    • @wrenbird8352
      @wrenbird8352 Před 2 lety +1

      The current Adminstrator of NASA was one of the first politicians to be sent to space. With how cheap space flight is becoming maybe we should send a member of congress or a member of Parlament up again.

    • @CountCalcium
      @CountCalcium Před rokem +1

      sounds good until you watch that vid of jeff bezos and that star trek actor right after coming back from space. One was changed forever and had a new appreciation for the world while the other was jeff bezos

    • @nogisonoko5409
      @nogisonoko5409 Před rokem

      Pixy would be proud. Borders are bad.

  • @lucidc.f.3320
    @lucidc.f.3320 Před rokem +4

    I hope they work together in space. A war on earth shuld not effect the space programs. In Space we all equals 🙏💙

    • @Justin-ui5ti
      @Justin-ui5ti Před rokem +1

      Yeah, but then Russian cosmonauts decided to bring the separatists flags into the ISS.
      Russia is bringing the war into space.

    • @lucidc.f.3320
      @lucidc.f.3320 Před rokem +1

      @@Justin-ui5ti yea we dont know yet how far this worldleaders might be seperated on earth. What they should do though, is to build a underwater city, with starting to dock a few submarines together under water and transport what ever materia they need to build the city. I mean under water we can gett air, electricity from sea motion and ofcourse there will be food there and water you can make to sweet water.

  • @bosspig746
    @bosspig746 Před 2 lety

    Real engineering has a great video that goes more in depth on this.

  • @omkarchandra
    @omkarchandra Před 2 lety +6

    I am watching Vox after a couple of years, I must say, the quality of the content has increased substantially.

  • @guestpwl
    @guestpwl Před 2 lety +91

    imagine being an astronaut/cosmonaut in the iss right now

  • @emanuelsheng8655
    @emanuelsheng8655 Před rokem

    Also the fact that it was the Axiom, like from Wall-E. Das funny :D

  • @ejourneys
    @ejourneys Před 2 lety +23

    In your timeline, in the gap between your 1970 line and the 1975 Apollo-Soyuz docking, you've omitted the short-lived but important Skylab (missions in 1973-4, re-entry in 1979). Although unrelated to the main gist of the video, it deserves to be mentioned along with Mir, ISS, and (later) Tiangong.

    • @petrovichiphoneovich7587
      @petrovichiphoneovich7587 Před rokem +1

      И станции Салют 1 - 1971, Салют 2 - 1973 (разгерметизация и отказ через 54 дня), Салют 3 - 1974 (213 суток), Салют 4 - 1974 (770 суток) , салют 5 - 1976 (441 суток) салют 6 - 1977 (1764 суток) и наконец , Салют 7 - 1982 (3216 суток) Салют 8 , Стала первым модулем станции Мир. Салют 9 - Должен был стать частью станции Мир-2 , но стал модулем жизнеобеспечения на МКС. Если копать глубже , много чего было упущенно в видео.

  • @raytsh
    @raytsh Před 2 lety +31

    I've just finished the second season of "For All Mankind" the other day. Having this discussion IRL now is really strange.

    • @elsebas3167
      @elsebas3167 Před 2 lety +3

      each episode of the 3rd season will get released every friday starting on June 10th (as far as I know), I'm so hyped

  • @thykingdomcome7238
    @thykingdomcome7238 Před 2 lety +33

    I'm honestly impressed by the time and effort you put into these videos. Keep it up! 👍

  • @widget3672
    @widget3672 Před 2 lety +26

    The ISS has always been an inspiration to international cooperation in space, and with such an extreme environment, it makes me glad to see that at least in this place, ridiculous politics are not taking precident

  • @MiSt3300
    @MiSt3300 Před 2 lety +15

    In space we should always cooperate... It saddens me greatly to see this. As a species we must cooperate

  • @Veins1
    @Veins1 Před 2 lety +84

    I love the world of science. No politics, no religion, no violence. Just smart people going forward. Leading us to the future.

    • @presidentJameskpolk-rm8gl
      @presidentJameskpolk-rm8gl Před 2 lety +3

      Ah yes because religion means not smart such a logical view

    • @ethanstong1564
      @ethanstong1564 Před 2 lety +18

      @@presidentJameskpolk-rm8gl He wasn't saying that :/ he's just saying scientists work together regardless of their religious views

    • @DeGoya
      @DeGoya Před 2 lety +3

      There've been many scientist believing in God because of the complexity of the universe they found through science. This includes individuals like Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein

    • @sinoroman
      @sinoroman Před 2 lety +1

      Science is vulnerable to politics tho

    • @nihar1987
      @nihar1987 Před 2 lety +5

      @@DeGoya No Scientist ever did that. Newton had Fringe beliefs and Einstein was an atheist who believed in Spinoza's God. If you can't Google that term, it simply means a personification of the laws of nature itself being labelled God, as opposed to a divine conscious being who created the universe.

  • @andrewmason9137
    @andrewmason9137 Před 2 lety +9

    Real Engineering had an awesome video regarding this a few days ago. Worth the watch if this video interests you.

  • @Taylor.L.
    @Taylor.L. Před rokem

    The trampoline is working had me dead

  • @JohntavionquaviousPringle

    "The trampoline is working!"
    Okay that was actually pretty funny.

  • @HowtoComputer
    @HowtoComputer Před 2 lety +36

    Love the updated content

    • @kitoken368
      @kitoken368 Před 2 lety

      What happened to the original

  • @Electric__
    @Electric__ Před 2 lety +8

    Dmitry Rogozin: and i took that personally

  • @MichaelCDavis-ou3bl
    @MichaelCDavis-ou3bl Před 2 lety

    Great story and analysis of international cooperation!

  • @nanorobat6258
    @nanorobat6258 Před rokem

    I like how we respect each other more in space then on earth

  • @jal4science573
    @jal4science573 Před 2 lety +9

    Reminds me of a scenario in “2010 the year we make contact”, so distant from our home planet that politics still have an effect.

  • @ruelarila7201
    @ruelarila7201 Před 2 lety +26

    Watching this video made me feel emotional, thinking how we might lose an important symbol of international cooperation.

    • @petrovichiphoneovich7587
      @petrovichiphoneovich7587 Před rokem

      Символ или сгорит в атмосфере или будет разделён на 2 части. Крайне символично, особенно второй вариант.

  • @preranaangel5032
    @preranaangel5032 Před rokem

    Please it's kind request to cover story on atlantification by specially vox
    As I feel everything included in your video is authentic learning is also there.

  • @daldrete01
    @daldrete01 Před rokem

    LOOOOOL "the trampoline is working" I didn't get the joke when it aired on TV.

  • @ubserrano8180
    @ubserrano8180 Před 2 lety +14

    Hopefully international collaboration for space exploration will continue. It is the finnest example of human cooperation that puts on the background the concept of nations and focusing on humanity, discovery and science.

  • @Twan_01
    @Twan_01 Před rokem +2

    I hope I get to live to see the second time people go to the moon, also the landing of the first people in Mars and a second and bigger space station.

  • @bawonos024
    @bawonos024 Před rokem

    Space mission did really a good job not just from a STEM perspective but also as a diplomatic channel.

  • @UlmerCubingandMore
    @UlmerCubingandMore Před 2 lety +4

    As one who has become a space nut, this is purdy good

  • @testla3383
    @testla3383 Před 2 lety +14

    It's just sad that, when I look at the big picture, again this current focus on space exploration is driven by geopolitics, just like in cold war. We just can't do space just because we like to explore, which I understand is a valid practical view point too.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 2 lety +2

      Such a shame decades of detente beginning with Reagan and Gorbachev have gone out the window.

  • @AssBeater-ov2ze
    @AssBeater-ov2ze Před rokem

    This is what I’ve been wondering about

  • @morsingroup
    @morsingroup Před 2 lety +3

    what happens on earth stays on earth

    • @spacemanx9595
      @spacemanx9595 Před 2 měsíci

      A Ruzzian sure would like that to be true.

  • @shonenjumpmagneto
    @shonenjumpmagneto Před 2 lety +5

    3:00 - I love the thought they put into the pattern of the National Flags on that document.
    🇺🇸 🇳🇱 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 🇷🇺
    🇳🇴 🇨🇭
    🇯🇵 🇨🇦
    🇪🇸 🇮🇹
    🇩🇰 🇧🇪 🇩🇪 🇸🇪

    • @dr.jamesolack8504
      @dr.jamesolack8504 Před 2 lety

      What ‘pattern’?

    • @internetexplorerchan2697
      @internetexplorerchan2697 Před 2 lety

      One is the impostor and pityful.

    • @dr.jamesolack8504
      @dr.jamesolack8504 Před 2 lety

      @@internetexplorerchan2697
      That’s a rather cryptic comment. Care to expound?

    • @internetexplorerchan2697
      @internetexplorerchan2697 Před 2 lety

      @@dr.jamesolack8504 I did'nt take it in political view, but yk that it is a difficult choice to manage as a member of ISS and there is a war. Look Russia trying to threat the ISS. It dosent mean that these international space mission is meaningless but it is better to get rid those who could cause more problems as a prevention.

  • @vishwakumar2864
    @vishwakumar2864 Před 2 lety +3

    The trampoline is working 😂👍

  • @Tezarak
    @Tezarak Před 2 lety +1

    I loved the trampoline joke second one was just taking it to far though

  • @amgeneralbuilding
    @amgeneralbuilding Před rokem

    They having a good conversation and that’s it.

  • @Applied_Mathemagics
    @Applied_Mathemagics Před 2 lety +10

    Finding "common ground" in space

  • @the_officials38
    @the_officials38 Před 2 lety +17

    The shotgun the cosmonauts bring into space will come in handy 😆

  • @dariangregory6182
    @dariangregory6182 Před rokem +1

    Astronauts were talking about relation up there during the Crimea incident. They said what was happening on earth was disheartening but they didn't allow it to interfere with their job. Up there they depend on one another, they said up there they were above the fray not a part of it. The U.S. Astronaut also said the space station depends on Russian rockets systems.

  • @Spacecookie-
    @Spacecookie- Před rokem

    I always wanted to visit the semi-international space station.

  • @monjur1016
    @monjur1016 Před 2 lety +14

    Elon's trampoline joke is actually funny and Vox's edit made it funnier.

  • @AwesomeBoysJPTV
    @AwesomeBoysJPTV Před 2 lety +22

    NASA is focused on the Artemis.
    Nerf fans: Hey that's a Rival Blaster.

    • @SakethCVES
      @SakethCVES Před 2 lety +3

      Greek people: Nah fam godess of the hunt

  • @OriginalRMG
    @OriginalRMG Před 2 lety +2

    Imagine if countries and people worked together to develop new technologies instead of new weapons. We could so so much together, but siloing each other will lead to such a slow development.

  • @gaboratoria
    @gaboratoria Před rokem

    “The trampoline is working”
    I CAN’T-

  • @Catsarentcandy
    @Catsarentcandy Před 2 lety +12

    I understand that it’s not perhaps the main point of the video here, but there is a lack of emphasis on how much of a game changer SpaceX is in terms of the necessary bilateral commitment from Russia and the US. It’s not just that the US didn’t have a way to get to and from the space station but that there was no one else in the world who had that capability. SpaceX has (and probably will continue to) make ridiculous promises about their timelines, but what they are doing in the space industry is unparalleled and has very direct implications for our relationship with Russia. I think there should have been at least a little more detail on this to frame the story a little bit better for outsiders.

  • @rogerrock12games
    @rogerrock12games Před 2 lety +6

    The scientists on that station are literally above our problems!

  • @cashlets1629
    @cashlets1629 Před 2 lety

    Wow, thanks to the man and woman in the space for the peace they preach that's what we really want to live

  • @zbs8334
    @zbs8334 Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder how much we could achieve if we all worked together for common goals

  • @r.rsmith
    @r.rsmith Před 2 lety +17

    Well, as Humans going on a Cosmic level, we need to put aside our differences via our countries' relationship with one another or we are getting downhill or nowhere

  • @itmethang
    @itmethang Před rokem +3

    I am growing up with Space Shuttle and Soyuz as well as the ISS and if they broke apart I would be sad

  • @oakenshadow6763
    @oakenshadow6763 Před 2 lety

    "We are one crew." I wish that would come back home. 5:46

  • @steinmuffin
    @steinmuffin Před 2 lety

    I asked that myself for a while. Thank you

  • @ChadSimplicio
    @ChadSimplicio Před 2 lety +9

    If I was NASA, I'd be funding Axiom's drive to build a Commercial Space Station, to replace the ISS. I'd also pressure Blue Origin to perfect & produce their BE-4 engines for their New Glenn rocket, and ULA's Vulcan rocket. Competition is good for spaceflight, especially for SpaceX.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 Před 2 lety

      that only makes sense if private companies can make a profit. launch services work because lots of companies want to put up satellites. So far for space stations ,there arent any commercial uses other than the occasional tourist. this would means the customer would almost exclusively be the government

    • @DR-pq6ki
      @DR-pq6ki Před 2 lety

      If I was Nasa i would ASAP focus on the completion of a space construction yard (for example on the moon) (3d printers & remote controlled ) to be able to launch infrastructure from Moon , rather from Earth. Thus avoid the current risk of a Kessler syndrome sealing Earth (making us unable to enter orbit) -for generations

    • @wrenbird8352
      @wrenbird8352 Před 2 lety

      NASA curently has to 2 replacment programs for LEO stations 1.Through one of the NextSTEP program's awards Axiom will be building off of the ISS with modules and eventually seprating from it 2.Commercial LEO Destinations (CLD) which is holding a completion with multiple companies to make a completely independent station.