$149 Mountain Bike vs mountain - The Walmart Enduro
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Welcome to Pisgah Forest, home to a huge array of remote and challenging mountain bike trails. To get anywhere here, you need to climb a few thousand feet. To get out alive your bike needs to hold up to roots, sharp rocks, and sustained braking. Thereâs no cell phone reception out here, and the trails are far too narrow for emergency vehicles. When your very life depends on your equipment, what value would you place on reliability?
That fact that weâre at Walmart is pretty irrelevant. It could just as easily be Target, Amazon.com, or even Canadian Tire. They all offer the same thing-bikes built and assembled to the lowest spec possible.
With names like trouble, wipeout, ambush, and carnage, these bikes deliver what they promise, but today weâre staying optimistic. Alex and I are taking our time and weighing our options. Even in a sea of super cheap bikes, we can choose the ones that suit our priorities best.
We settled on a pair of Genesis V2100âs, which had front discs, threadless headsets, and half decent saddles. As we checked out, reality started to set in. Weâd be relying on these bikes for over 5000 feet of elevation change. Weâd need all the help we could get. Back at the house I packed everything from sockets to gorilla tape, to zip ties, to extra food, lest we get stranded on the far reaches of mount Mitchell.
We set out with our new bikes in tow, and kept two main goals in mind; Make it down the trail in one piece, and finish it off with Mexican food.
What started as a ride quickly devolved into a grueling hike. It wasnât the gearing, or even the weight-we just tried and couldnât. The tires had no traction, and the bikes flexed like crazy under any kind of torque. Once the grade evened out we had a much easier time, and started to clear some serious ground. We were enjoying nature, and It wasnât long before we reached our first downhill.
Although it was only 50 yards, it was telling. Alex and I settled in for a long ride up the old Mitchell toll road, knowing full well that the climb might be the easy part.
We were climbing at a snailâs pace, painstakingly choosing our lines. Our cranks started creaking, and our hubs began to eat themselves, but we picked our way up the toll road without encountering any major mechanical failures. In fact, we were enjoying ourselves. For $149, Alex and I were taking part in an activity enjoyed by the likes of dentists and jewelers, with their pretty $6000 bikes. What do those bikes do that these canât anyway?
On my trail bike, this janky rock garden is a blast. On this bike, I couldnât wait for it to be over.
As you can see, Alex had been going much slower than me. He had the sense to. His bike had not one bit of damage to it, while I was nursing a blown up fork and no drivetrain whatsoever. It was clear by this comparison that speed is the major destructive force on these bikes.
As I edit this video, my hands, arms, shoulders, and torso still hurt from this ride. On my trail bike, the brakes can be applied with one finger. On the Genesis, braking is a full body workout that leaves you in pain for days.
We had made it to the end, sort ofâŠ. we still needed to get to the car. Luckily it was mostly downhill and I could hitch a ride on Alexâs backpack. After beating ourselves up for the better part of 5 hours, there was only one thing on our minds.
Playing around on department store bikes might be fun and games, but I found that riding one on an actual mountain bike excursion is not fun, and most definitely not a game. Still Iâm amazed that Alexâs bike survived. Although he was using a lot more restraint than I was, everything from the gears to the brakes were working at the bottom. To Walmartâs credit, there are warnings on these bikes that tell you not to take them on mountain bike trails. After our journey, Iâd have reason to believe that on a flat dirt path, the Genesis V2100 would inconvenience you at the very most, not kill you.
But just like sushi, tattoos, and cosmetic surgery, youâll regret cheaping out on a bike that you really intend on exploring the mountains with. If you want to fall in love with mountain biking, try renting something first, or save up $400 for an entry level hardtail. In the meantime you can hike these trails for free. With one of these you may be hiking anyway.
If you enjoyed this video, I have plenty of others on this topic. Let me know what you think below, and better yet give me some ideas of what to do with these next. Thanks for riding with me today, and Iâll see you next time.
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That bike sounds like two skeletons screwing on a tin roof
6:03 XD Roflmfao
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Wildly accurate.
And using a bean can for a condom
how... how did you possibly miss out on this oportunity to say boning
I can see the craigslist ad now âLike new mountain bike rode once no lowballers I know what I haveâ
Hahaha
Aka the raleigh m80 LMAO đđđ
@@yousifyounan6579 budget?
@@peterwagner958 like 200
@@yousifyounan6579 I would suggest saving up for a nice bike like 650$ and you can get a nice bike that will last for years
"When your life relies on your equipment"
*immediatly goes to walmart*
That was the point
I immediately started laughing when a happy jingle started playing when he said your life depends on the equipment đ€Ł
@@dreamersdoodles6078 haha
I went up 2500 elevation in the mountains with my Walmart beach cruiser and didnât die. Itâs a miracle lol đ
The first time I ever really got into mountain biking, I was visiting my Grandparents for the December holidays. I didn't have a bike, so I borrowed my grandfather's 2003 Nishiki Thunder... A fully rigid steel monstrosity, with a threaded headset, rusted, worn-out rim brakes, and no-name brand, perished tires pumped to within a few PSI of bursting. This was mistake number 1.
In my infinite wisdom, I asked my grandfather to drive me and the bike to the top of a really large off-road mountain pass, so that I could "enjoy" the ride back down. This was mistake number 2. Finally, I didn't have any cycling shorts, and turned down a kind offer to borrow some from a family member. This was mistake number 3.
What seemed like a fun, winding downhill dirt road lasting a few miles on the drive up, turned into a sadistic taint-pounding torture fest from the moment I started the descent. The rigid steel frame seemed to amplify every washboard rut in that road into a vicious attack on my family jewels, beating up those poor bastards like they owed the road money, despite the geriatric spec gel seat cover. My nuts still audibly scream whenever I think of that fateful day.
The gradient wasn't particularly steep, but the brakes were utterly useless, burning up immediately and providing a lovely smell of fire to punctuate my descent into hell. Despite the fact that I gripped those levers all the way to the bars, the bike just continued to accelerate down the hill, resulting in much puckering of my sphincter. The rock-hard tires were over-achievers... They were not satisfied with merely buggering my giblets to the point of sterilization, but they also aimed to achieve a perfect state of zero traction. Each corner that I took was a 50-50 chance of me bursting a gonad or falling off the side of a cliff.
On several occasions, I nearly wiped out into oncoming traffic - which, at the time would've probably served as sweet relief from the seventh circle of ballpain that I was banished to.
In the end, I walked away with several loose fillings and an abrupt end to my family lineage... But the experience did not dissuade me from buying a proper bike and getting into this crazy sport.
Nice story bro hahahahahahaha!
Well, at least you won't need to pay for a vasectomy.
This is one of the best comments Iâve ever read
Hahahahahahahahaha, what a story man!
That was such a joy to read.
âWith names like trouble, wipeout, ambush, and carnage, these bikes deliver what they promiseâ
Mine (which probably came from Walmart, I bought it used) is called the Mongoose Deception. I put over 2,000 miles on it & it's about to fall apart.
@@CrayfishYAY
Then it delivered what it promised: it's deceptively sturdy.
the M.B I bought from walmart is called " hyper bear mountain"
BUT, did you die?
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I'd hate to be a kid that's saved up to buy one of these bikes thinking he's got something good, then watches this video.
me...
That was me and I got the exact same bike.
@@Professor-8 Ride it til the wheels fall off!
literally me but i just ride it on the road and in the yard not crazy off-roading like this lol
sounds just like me
"Mom I want a trail bike"
Mom: We have a trail bike at home
The trail bike at home:
Lol
Yes
Is not that bad.
Death Machine, Like my 45 year old John Deere Bike
@@nightfalcon605gaming2 my dad rides a 1978 ridged with crap brakes (idk the name XD) with 1989 stuntjumper wheels he doesnât want to get a new one tho XD he says heâs likes it.
"don't take this mountain bike onto mountain bike trails" - Wal-Mart
Thats a big bruh momment
Bso*
Yeah I can see it to be honest. Mountain bike trails can be very rough and I suppose they just cannot guarantee safety and stability under those conditions. If you just want a bike that can get decent traction and go on dirt without too much trouble then they will probably work alright. If you are using a bike for a sporting purpose and not just exercise or short commuting then you should probably spend some more money.
They're Walmart, but you wouldn't let them build your walls đ
@@jacobnunya808 then why would they make mountain bikes if they obviously canât handle it
Now you realize why you found that mongoose bike in the trees...
12schnsaint lmao
The bmx bikes are alright but nowhere near high end. Never take them on serious rides and these kind of bikes are more for kids going on little trails and chilling riding about on streets
DryBowser4523 mongoose legion bmx bikes arenât that bad I have a old L100 itâs really good for 300$ I have jumped it crashed it dropped it many times and itâs still amazing some cheap bikes are gold mines some arenât
The Cruiser Crew yeah some of them are pretty damn good but things get risky under $200 as most of the bikes have cheap components
Good one budđ
sounds like your riding a shopping cart down.. probably felt like one too.
XD
the shopping cart would have survived XD
Suomi perkele
MetsÀn Asukas you would be safer on a shopping cart
aha 666 likes
This video appears after my wife asked me âwhatâs wrong with just getting a Kmart bike anyway?!?â
Pst, get out while you still can
Same
you still have a kmart?
I have a 200 dollar Walmart "trail" bike. My buddy has a brand new Marlin 7. My buddy and I started mtn biking recently and the first trip he kept looking back like, come on bro... Then he offered to switch bikes... Within 5 seconds he was looking back like how tf have you been riding with this? Carefully and strategically.
exactly. its about the challenge isn't it
i would seriously recommend a marlin 5 or 6, i've ridden my friends marlin 5 on the road and its honestly really dope and i might buy one in the coming years
@@isatntt I agree, the Marlin line up are really good bikes, but if youâre going to go the Marlin route then pay the extra few bucks and go with the 7, itâs the sweet spot out of them all.
@@Harvey017 understood for most people, i'd be doing mostly road riding honestly and with no local trails or anything i personally would go with a 5 or 6, if you plan on actually doing trail riding (almost like the bike was meant for that) then yes, get the 7
i wouldnt be road riding in the sense where i would need an actual road bike, just like around neighborhood stuff, something i can still bash and go down hills and do small jumps and stuff, aswell as i think mountain bikes are fairly comfortable on the road even
Marlins are awesome. I have the Marlin 8. Expensive, but I don't regret it one bit.
Labeled "Mountain bike" by Walmart
Also Walmart: "Do not take on Mountains"
It is built to look like a mountain bike, and function like one. Just, there is a very big difference in quality. I loved my walmart mountain bike when I was a kid cause I could gt it anywhere. Now I am an adult and about 100lbs heavier. They do not give that feeling anymore.
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Elijah A they say on the frame that it is not intended for off roads use
Mine tells my the forks are only for "leisure cross country"
@@stealthenforcer1907 most budget suntour forks will say that in my experience you can give can ride it down some pretty hard trails and it preforms fine
"I would like to return bike. Ive only rode it once."
just imagine the look on the employees face when they look at the receipt and realize itâs not even 24 hours old
Get yourself a nice bicycle. Something decent will begin around $600, check Poseidon, they're selling a great bike with a beautiful alloy frame for $600. Bicycling is the most expensive sport you could enter. A complete bicycle for $600 would just about cover my frameset. Poseidon isn't the only one with Adventure bicycles for a good price, dig around.
Gravel Crunchers Your saying mountain biking is the most expensive. Look at professional motocross.
@@bikerider1007 Not necessarily mountain biking, actually that's probably a lot less money than exotic road bikes. Pound for pound top-end costs almost as gold. For example a $12,000 bicycle that weighs 7 lb would be $1,714 per pound. The lighter you got the more expensive it gets which is really weird. I spent years as a Manufacturing Engineer and I swear giving you less costs me less. What you're paying for is the cool engineering, R&D, product testing and beta testing. If you build a bicycle out of iron pipe you don't need to test anything, iron pipe is pretty Bulletproof.
Iron pipe is silly but you get my point.
@@bikerider1007 Motocross is with a motor right? That has nothing to do with our sport. Raising a prize Arabian horse will cost you plenty too.
I liked the front facing "rear" sticker on one of the forks lmao
âWhat can those bikes do that these bikes couldnâtâ.
-live seth. Those bikes could live.
Perhaps the funniest thing I have EVER heard during a bike review: "The bike is 1000x better without the chain"
Lololololololol đđđ
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It has become unchained, and is no longer bound by mortal limits
These really are very unfair reviews of WM bikes! Most of these buyers don't do enduro, plus if you just do conmute or sometimes gravel plus xc these bikes can last longer!
Only Wal-Mart can make a full suspension bike that rides like a full rigid!
JMANSWAT Walmart bike suspension literally bottoms out on even curbs
@@enoll218 really? I'd like to see that happen lol
CapitĂŁo ExplosĂŁo trust me the forks on Walmart bikes are crap
@@enoll218 I don't doubt it... I have a similar bike from decathlon in which the tyre hits the crown whenever I turn hard to the right...
@@Fred_the_1996 I bought a mongoose excursion 29 in from Walmart
On my second ride a blew a front shock hopping over a curb
Now riding a giant talon 3, 27.5 in, much better
Bikes like this is why as a kid I thought cycling was super difficult and I couldn't imagine how people can go more than 1-2 miles at a time.
This video. This is the one that started it all. This is how i found your channel seth. After watching your channel more, i got hooked. Your videos made me realize one of my passions i didnt even know existed. From then on it was just a snowball effect. Its the most unreal fun thing on the planet. Thank you for making this video seth. You have impacted my life by making this video.
I bought a Schwinn mountain bike from Target several years ago. There's a sticker on it that literally says "...not for off road use."
All Standard SrSuntours say that đ
even on bumpy concrete roads the screws feel like theyâre gonna pop off on my toys r us schwinn. then again itâs held up prettt well over the years for only 140 dollars đ
I got one once that said it was a mountain bike, but had skinny tires...
Im getting a schwinn from Dicks,Front suspension 7 speed .Am I expecting Walmart quality?
My SR Suntour says "for leisure XC use, not for dirt jumping" it is a little more specific.
New names for that bike: "Internal bleeding", "Hemorrhage", "Face Plant"
Ron Ptaszek Haemorrhage actually sounds ok
the nut destroyer and pelvis blaster are also acceptable names
Concusion
Paralysis
Death
Birth Control
Family tree uprooter
I canât get over the fact that they found somebody to assist them at Walmart
I laughed every time Sethâs fork bottomed out. That noise.
In walmarts defence they were just expecting you to just ride on side walks and grass
Or not weigh enough to break the plastic pedals.
but they label them as MTBs
He says in the video they have a label saying not to bring them on real trails
But then why label them as mountain bikes if you cant take them on the mountains?
Midnightcat what else should they name them ? They are cheap bikes , spend some money and get a real bike if you want to ride real mountains
I laughed so much at that upside down derailleur.
I lost it at the fork brace labeled rear
That happened to my Shimano XT derailleur once.
@@knordberg :(
@@knordberg oof
CapitĂŁo ExplosĂŁo how did that derailleur break ? Did it hit a rock ?
7:34 the sound I made when I saw them go to Walmart for a bike
I absolutely love your presentation...the music, narration, videogrqphy...you should have a show on Netflix.
*it was painful to watch*
Can I get 25 subscribers
DJ Hyde not by asking for them
Wheelie Keeley I'm sorry I didn't know you felt that way
I used to ride a Walmart mongoose! I will never go back to those bikes.
hulimao me too
2:42 You know what the suspension feels like its doing something.......seconds later *Oh god Egh-Gin-g-Ove-r-the-OH GAWD-Ohw oh man*
LMAO
Haha
Those are the same sounds I make when I ride my ridgid fat bike down chunky stuff with higher tire pressure, haha.
Oh, it's doing something, rattling his spine out of alignment haha.
Dude the whole video is moaning
I recently found and subscribed to your channel. This is one of the funniest videos I have seen! All your videos are great. Full of information and I like that you are open to newbie questions without being condescending. My bike is getting delivered today and Iâm going to use your assembly video to put it together. Thank you to you and all your friends for making such good content.
I like how everybody is saying that these bikes are really dangerous despite the fact that Seth has taken this bike to some of the roughest trails in the world and pushed it as hard as he possibly could, and Alex's bike even survived. Nobody who buys this expects to do these trails with it, they just want to ride local trails which probably aren't that big
Nobody is mentioning how amazing the stabilisation of the footage was! Fucking amazing gave the real sense of the vibration hell.
Seriously...how does one do that? I'm impressed!
It's a gimble
Gimbal and chest mount I'd guess.
I wish we have suspensions as good as camera gimbals.
Probably right - and/or image stabilization in post-production. But honestly, I attribute most of it to a rock steady riding skills. To keep head and chest stable when all hell is breaking loose is solid riding. Because honestly, his eyeballs would have fallen out otherwise, and he would have at some point donated blood to the trail. Solid performance! Laughed my ass off. Reminds me of days before disc brakes.
âWith names like âTrouble,â âWipeout,â and âCarnage,â these bikes deliver what they promise.â (STILL favourite vid, THANKS Seth! đ
But some not so much
Me: Hey, I think I used to have a bike like that!
Me a few seconds later: Oh wait, thatâs not good
I wanted to go inexpensive and bought a big box store bike when I first wanted to get into MTBing. A guy at the LBS told me the bike would end up falling apart in me. He was right. That sound you heard from the bike on the video is very familiar. It was my bike coming apart under me.
"What is that SOUND?!"
I can hear the terror
*Doesn't stop to check what it is and continues*
@@wailfaridi2070 That's what baffled me. When your bike sounds like that, you absolutely need to stop and see what it is, especially on a trail like that. You're just risking your life otherwise.
That bike sounded like a silverware drawer hurtling to its doom. Props for bravery, man. :D
I was going to say it sounded like a bunch of loose bolts inside of a metal lunchbox, but yours is much better!
@Bobby Hawkins what kickstand? Look at 6:50. I don't see one on either bike.
Sounds like a tool chest going down the stairs on home alone ha
Home Alone II.... "What is that???" lollll XD great vid Seth!
@Bobby Hawkins shut the fuck up Bobby
His laugh at 7:02 is so genuine and hilarious. He can't even feel bad for his friend because of how stupid the situation is lmao
I loved my mountain bike and wanted so badly to do this kind of biking when I was younger - still do. Even bought an entry level for $300 bucks, a Mongoose Tapanga (this was the 1990s so everything was a bit cheaper back then). Hockey, martial arts, whitewater - I lived for fast pace adrenaline rushes. Was a lifeguard and EMT and wanted to learn scuba, skydiving... sensing a theme yet? Mountain biking was put on the backburner for a while but I knew it was only a matter of time I'd start it up again! Which of course is when life throws you something unexpected, for me it was epilepsy.
A diagnosis like epilepsy changes you. It wasn't terminal - I'm not about to die from it, but it was crippling to the point of that life I lived for was gone. Imagine that. Take four of the top five things you love most and learn that because of this invisible thing inside of you, all of those things you love are gone. Savor what you have in the here and now and don't do what I did and put dreams on hold. If the only thing holding you back from racing down a mountain trail is 400 bucks, save up and when you get the chance take it. Because life is a ticking clock and none us know when ours will run out.
And for those out there who have had their life changed in an instant? There will be dark periods of frustration and depression - but you can work through it. Even though the life you had and loved is gone, that doesn't mean all is lost. Deep down inside you are still the same person you always have been. Keep fighting and still believe in you. Even if it's a matter of waking up in the morning and telling the world to go screw itself. You're still here. I'm still here. And now I'm going to cook up some eggs and mix in some hot sauce. Keep riding brothers!
That's exactly what I did I saved up $489 dollars to buy a trek hardtail mtb with locking fork shocks and being 14 it's not that easy of a task coming up with that much money on your own. That bike is my pride and joy and have put it through a lot of crap these past few weeks but it still rides like I just bought it! And I'm going to have to thank you Seth. You are the main person who got me into mtb riding! I watched one video and said that's exactly what I want to do. So thank you very much!!
I agree whole heartedly. I am also 14 and have been mowing yards and saving for years. I bought some awesome used bikes for $400-$500 and it's so rewarding
CJ Tac oh heck yea man that's awesome!!!
im 14 too lol, been riding on a cx and a beginner Giant mtb. both broke. i got myself a decent bmx as a substitute to practice skills on, until i save enough for an intermediate mtb(commencal meta ht am race). Awesome to see that im not the only newbie!
Same bro, I'm 14 too, and I got a very good bike that was on sale at like 60+% off. Feels great!
Bass Killer 628 Lol dude, I'm 14 but I have the Calibre Bossnut, $1200 bike because I passed GCSE maths early gl in getting a full sis one day, like you Seth inspired me to pursue mountain biking
When you said "we only have one thing left to do" I was hoping it cut to yall trying to return those bikes to walmart
Ha ha
Same here
Reminds me of a jackass video where knoxvile took a rental car to a demolition derby and then returned it on a flatbed
Yes that would have been awesomeđ
I had to come back and watch vintage Seth itâs amazing to see how far he has come in content and production making business moves and owning a freaking bike park itâs great for me too say Iâve been here since 2017 and still watch today itâs crazy
Excellent, educational & at the same time great entertainment đmost importantly, A BIG THANK YOU for proving & ending the thought me purchasing of a cheap bike!đđŒđ
My father is a retired Firefighter/EMT in Michigan. His department had multiple rescues out of one of our favorite popular MCMBA sanctioned trails known as "the most dangerous trails in the Midwest"; many of those were from people trying to ride Huffy and other department store bikes. Broken seat tubes, posts, frames, handlebars, etc. They should not be allowed to call these things "mountain bikes". When I first got into mountain biking, I had much success with a couple of bikes that were between $500 to $800 on sale. One was a Diamond Back and one was a Trek, both bought at actual bike shops. They were both ridden for years, and were even better with some upgrades. I didn't ride as hard back then so they served their purpose. Bottom-line, as a beginner, you can have some safe and reliable fun by spending the extra money. Of course, as your riding skills increase, be prepared to shell out the big bucks; it's definitely worth it!
Damn it don't people read the piece of paper that comes with the fucking bike? That sounds so dangerous.
I have Huffy, I only ride it a short distance from home, I would never dream of taking it to a MTB trail.
dunnotck1 no they donât especially not a couple years after they got it and they decide to go to a trail
@@gazebo9730 People are so dumb. You're lucky to have emergency services that are willing to go to the middle of nowhere to rescue people. In my country your on your own, no one is going to save you.
dunnotck1 what country? Also personally I have never been but I have no idea of any paper so I donât think many others do either
@@gazebo9730 Mexico. A new bike always come with a small "owners manual" where they explain the bike is not meant to be used in mountain bike trails.
Walmart page: "If you want to enjoy superior comfort while riding on hills, then you might have to get the 26-inch Genesis V2100 dual-suspension bike. Featuring a dual-suspension frame, this men's Genesis bicycle is very hill-friendly, and offers you a smooth riding experience even on rough terrain."
LOL!
Ingo Vogelmann Exactly bro, now I have a trek marlin 6 2020, my old Walmart bike with solid front suspension would not be able to handle this trail but my new bike would
Hahahhahaha
Lets be completely fair, its obvious that these bikes were not made for anything like this and this challenge was pretty much a destined breakdown, but cheap bikes aren't always bad, i bought a ÂŁ20 second hand mtb with fork suspension and 3x6 gears, it has never broken down, granted ive only gone on light trails but still...
Grassy hills...
Iâve watched a hundred videos of people going down difficult and dangerous trails on 3000/5000 ÂŁ$ bikes. Always wondered how a budget bike would hold up. Really enjoyed this video đ
About 5 years ago, I had bought a used but in perfect condition 21 speed full-suspension bike with steel frame, Sram Grip Shifters and Shimano Tourney derailleurs for 100$. I regularly change Shimano Megarange sprocket + chain once a year (15$), and I'm riding mountain bike trails almost every day and still very happy with it. :-)
My first bike was a $100 mongoose from Walmart. I always had something loose or broken on every ride then I took it to a real bike shop for repair. The guy at the shop told me fix it would be like $60. I found that expensive for a $100 bike. Then the guy told me to return it and buy a $500 Trek from them. It was the BEST thing I have ever done.
Reminds me of my first mountain bike, was like a $500 mongoose from an actual shop, it lasted about 4 months before it fell apart, broken chains, derailleurs were junked, the frame flexed to high heaven. Was apparent after that experience that if its not at least $1000, its garbage
@@duanescot Even a $1000+ bike can be crap. I had a Raleigh street bike, XTR shifters, Vbrakes (they were the shit 20 years ago). The handlebar broke, right as I drove down a flight of stairs. Lesson was, don't take street bikes on parkour or trails.
It all depends on the brand. My $550 Giant hardtail gets ridden on real trails all the time, and nothing breaks. I wouldn't hit jumps or big drops on it, but for regular trail riding, it does just fine. The bike I had as a teenager was a $180 Diamond Back rigid bike, I completely thrashed that bike on trails in Arizona, and it never failed (ok had to have the front wheel trued a few times, but that was par for the course with steel wheels back then). but that was me at 15 years old, deciding I was going everywhere the adults on their uber expensive bikes with suspension would go haha.
@@Mp57navy Could be quality control or pure luck too, I'm guilty of YOLOing $250 hardtail down stairs or shorter MTB trails occasionally and nothing major stopped working haha. The amount of components on a low end bike that rust or gradually become substandard within 1-3 years is very high though, not great for keeping long-term through that alone.
So it seems like you got a marlin 5 since thatâs the only marlin that costs 500
In Romania we say "I'm too poor to buy something cheap"
Andrei Barbu Aparent romanii chiar sunt peste tot pe internet, mai ceva ca indienii đđ
in Poland we say this too
Asta e proverb de la evrei "Sunt prea sarac sa cumpar ieftin" si vrea sa spuna ca, decat ieftin si prost mai bine scump si bun. Sau ceva in genul acesta
Evreii astia... )))))
I would love to see mountain bike trails if there are in the carpathian mountains.
Diesel Rail Muscle there are lots of
I love the pizzicato music background - funny, and beautiful!
Your advice on the purchase is gold, I had one of those and I was in better shape and blissfully ignorant on the difference with just a real entry level, I took her everywhere but as you noticed, at lower speed than usual, the most difficult problems I had were mud and off-camber trails
"with names like Trouble, Whipeout, Ambush, and Carnage, these bikes deliver what they promise" Im fookin rollin m8 ahahaha
yeah that is so true
then the shots of the bars not on right and a sticker saying rear on the front forks hahaha
John same lol
LMFAO, i was going to post the same thing !
i just now got that quote
My favorite thing about this channel Brian's and Alex's is that when I'm browsing other random mtb videos here on CZcams, I see you guys commenting on them. I think it's really awesome y'all take the time to watch others videos and interact with them. Shows that you guys care and how much you love riding! Would love to ride with you guys one day!
It's really fun stumbling on to new channels and seeing what people are coming up with!
BKXC See just like that haha proving my point. Really enjoying the Mont. Blanc stuff by the way. The steepness is real haha.
I love how sketched out by these bikes they were through the ride and they're still giggling like kids throughout the ride lol their vibe is what I strive to have
Thanks for making this video. Iâve always wondered how bad these bikes are when ridden on a trail. Now I know.
I gotta say, the production quality on this is AMAZING. keep up the great work!
+Forceof Habit thanks!
Seth's Bike Hacks hey Seth what's the song in the first part of the video when u were in Walmart? Been trying the find that song for 2 years
he was talking about the bike lol
+seth
1:13 "rear" absolutely killed me đ
Same dude xD
TrailRiderMTB is
It's hilarious seeing Walmart trying to match their gimmicky bikes with true mountain bikes, like the Trek Marlin 5
RUSTY REAR.
I have the Marlin 5 :D
Had me cackling with your reactions during the ride, absolutely priceless!
My first two mountain bikes were Canadian Tire CCMs back in the days of chrome Molly steel frames and no suspension front or rear. Literally folded both frames in half: the front tire sitting nicely alongside the top tube. Ah memories.
I think he should buy a WallMart bmx and see how it Lasts at a skate park like so Seth can see
I wouldn't recommend it if you like your teeth.
i will be doing that this fall. i am 44 and i make bmx videos. i do old school flatland like in my featured video on my page called rad bmx tribute. i fly home to illinois 2 times a year and i dont have a bike there. so this fall i am buying a mongoose 720 and i will be doing some bmx videos on it. i only go home 2 times a year. but i fly 2000 miles. so i want to buy a bike to leave there so i can ride with my old bmx buddy who still rides and lives there. it will stay at my moms house. i will only ride it a few times a year. so i dont need a super nice one. but i am curious to see what one can do if it is tightened good. wheels trued good. and brakes adjusted good and cables lubed i look forward to putting one through the test.
Just wear a full face, you'll be 'right
Brian Ritchie adam lz did that and the thing which holds the handle bar broke after one bunny hop xD
Sir cornflakes it call stem
Even a $400 entry level non-walmart bike might be hard pressed on those trails...
Mine was a $500 walmart mongoose. front end exploded on the first trail....lol
@@DavidEGreeneJr $500 for a Walmart bike???
@@LynnHarrod yup XR750 I still own the frame. Has a FOX rear end spring(aftemarket)
Dude I have a 550$ bike and I have front flipped it and crashed but it didn't turn into shit. I have almost ridden 1000-2000 km in 6 months and I have smashed through rock gardens hit jumps and drops but it survived and it's still working well
GT agressor pro can handle it
When living in Malawi, I bought the best bike the bike shop I went to had (this was in the largest city in the country). Compared to that bike, any walmart bike is pretty good. One of the first things I had to do was weld the seat so it didn't slide around every time I sat on the bike. Also the brakes were even worse than what you described. :D
I bought on of these the other day just to see how I feel about Mountain Biking. I'm loving it, but I'm already excited to upgrade. I am in no way experienced, but I can tell it sucks. My wife flat out laughed at the welds on both of ours. The suspension makes them pogo sticks, and the brakes are a suggestion. The chains/whole drivetrain pop like crazy, and I know some of that could be me. It's the popping on flat ground just cruising that always gets me. Like damn bro. There is nothing even going on. Calm down lol. It can't decide what gear it wants to be in, but I also haven't adjusted anything yet. I'm afraid of making it worse. It's fun to see videos like this though. Lets me know that it just gets better from here lol.
I have a great idea. Strip the bikes down to the frame and re build them using quality parts then see how they perform.
Great idea!
That's what I did with the 2018 Norco storm3
Best idea
I believe that a frame shows its true strenghts sorry if i spelt that wrong but you know where im going with this so it comes down to which grade of parts you put on so far i have rockshox silver 30tk alex front rim trail rated shimano 8 speed parts. New pedals short stem thats it for this year grand total for parts 800 dollar Canadian
I'm going to do this with a trek marlin 7 to make it a trail hardtail
"$400 entry level hardtail"
In my country you get entry level fork with that money đ
Me too đ
Try Marin! They have rlly good hard tails for sub 1.2k look at the bobcat trail 5 and San Quentin
Which country?
sad but soooo true
Yeah pesos and USD are a little different.
đ€Łthose sounds! But seriously, I'm glad you guys didn't get stranded out there đŹ You and Alex together on a video is a perfect combo.
Everyone needs a mate like Alex. Good times fellas. đ€đœđ€đœđ€đœ
Listen to 9:30-9:41 with your eyes closed
Duke Bristow lol lol lol
I dont get it
TrollForceOne Gaming you are too young my dude
Duke Bristow uhhhhhh uuuhhhhhhh uuhhhhhhhhhhh
Duke Bristow lol
6:45
Seth: My poor derailuer!
Derailuer: KiLl mE
that thing was already dead
Omfg I had another Wal-Mart mountain bike do that same thing to me, can verify the derailer wants to die
I bought my 29 inch genesis incline mountain bike and greased all my wheel bearings lubed the chain and sprockets etc. Preventative maintenance is the key to having anything you own to last a lifetime. Get educated on preventative maintenance procedures. You'll come out a lot better with anything you buy. It works for meeeeeeeeee!!!!!đđŻ
Last Sunday 7/10/22 I wake up telling my self go get you a Bike! it been a while since last time and I know you love it! But never with Walmart in mind lol so I bought a Marlin 6 (Small) 2021 and go for a flat trail Same Day! And Hey ! It's just the Beginning! Thanks for the Variety of content! Awesome!
you know you buying quality shit when it says it's a MOUNTAIN-BIKE and then on same label in smaller font there are warnings that tell you NOT to take them on mountain bike trails"
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it's a very unnerving feeling when you see BMX *_style_* or mountain bike *_style_* on the sku shelf tag somewhere, would you buy a car that had seatbelt _style_ straps or airbag _style_ steering wheels? đ đ đ
But people do not necessarily read the label, or they really think that if it looks like, then it is.
These are cheap bikes that looks like a mountain bikes but are made for casual riding. I'm willing to bet 99% of people who buy them understand this. No serious rider would buy one.
lobserve1 99% of people who by bikes from Walmart aren't doing serious trail riding in the first place just going to the mall... at 2mph
You should try and return them
MAGIC CREW and as the Head Bike Assembler at my local Walmart, Seth's V2100 would be marked down to zero, harvested for any salvageable parts, and get a one way ticket to the trash compactor; when he destroyed the drivetrain, it went from repairable to garbage in an instant. Alex's bike would probably be inspected, any issues would be corrected, the bike marked down 25%, and put right back on the rack.
Yes, my thought too. but you must record it
digitalrailroader walmart definitely wouldnt accept it back. Can still repair the deraileur and new hanger though as long as the frame is good replace everything with better components. A new deraileur will be 1,000 times better even a cheapo shimano acera deraileur will work better haha.
Neoskater420 true; that should be the next step for Seth's V2100; upgrade everything that can be upgraded on that bike, then compare it to a proper name brand Enduro bike. Even better would be a three way comparison between the hacked V2100, the stock V2100, and the name brand enduro bike.
Neoskater420 There's a guy who does bmx videos who bent a taco'd wheel kinda back and returned it under the explaination of brake problems. He did this twice
That was such a great transition, from fearful forest to a happy store.
the derailer part was so funny, i can remember doing that a few times on my walmart bike when i was a kid
" I feel like the suspension is doing something!" As the bike rattles
My road bike would handle that better
Haha
True
Autumn Duke why would someone upgrade a Walmart bike
@@autumnduke8802 either you're a troll or going to find out that upgrading a walmart quality bike is like trying to make an Accord keep up with a Lambo.
Which is doable yet pointless and short lived.
A road bike can go off-road better then the genesis
Been waiting for a video like this. Good job!
My first full suspension mountain bike was a Mongoose Blackcomb that I bought from Walmart for $100. Front/rear mechanical discs and trigger shifters. I immediately installed new Michelin tires and new clamp on grips. I put it through hell and it actually survived quite well. Wherever it is now, I hope itâs still functional ha!
Who else came back nearly 3 years later whilst in isolation?
No
Yes, UK here
Yes. I needed something to laugh at. Can't wait to pump up my tires and hit the trails...
Me
Ya
By now Walmart probably has photos of Alex and Seth posted at all their locations advising staff not to sell any bikes to them.
What he said about the bottom bracket is absolutely spot on. I got this bike a few years ago as just a cheap commuter bike and the bottom bracket and crank set went out on me during a ride after like 6 months đ đ€Ł
Yiiioooo... down in NC and STILL drops a Canadian Tire reference on us.. đđ
4:33 Pure comedy. I know he's not trying to be funny but the entire clip is pure entertainment!
Evandiego16 Yeah I laughed so hard when he noticed his derailer was shot. Hahaha
Hahahaha yeah.. "Ow! Woah... what is that? What is that sound??" XD pmsl
The end of the video should have been a trip back to Walmart insisting same day return of defective product. đđđ.
I bought what is so far my most expensive bike at walmart the other day, $170, and the chain fell out an hour after I bought it. đ
I've watched this vid 3 times and it gets better every time
My Monday just got better. This was awesome!
After watching so many of your videos, one of my favorite aspects to your approach is your sensitivity to cost/pricing. You seem successful in your CZcams career and financially stable in life. So the fact that you are able to understand and relate to those on a budget, or even on a âmajor budgetâ, just makes your videos much more intriguing and relatable. To me, that means you know the meaning of âhard timesâ. And your success is well earned and far more deserved and Iâm truly happy for you in your achievements.
Iâm new to the sport and I donât even own a bike yet. But I am obsessed with mountain biking and trail riding ever since joining my friend who took me on a few trips. I am patiently awaiting the day I will own a mountain bike and am strategically planning its manifestation.
Thank you, Seth, for everything you do for the biking community! You inspired me tremendously!
Never have I been so happy to be at home, eating a rice cake, mayo and turkey sandwich and watching my friends torture themselves! They call it Heartbreak Ridge for a reason boys!
BKXC Seth didn't tell u ? U guys are up next ! đđ
BKXC yep I can see and been there before
Next up, Brian on a high-end aluminium hardtail.
Rice cake, mayo and turkey sandwich, eh? That's an odd combo on a sandwich. I'll have to try it.
is the rice cake the 'bread'? open face? we need details! :)
Excellent test... The video popped up for me when i was checking online again for a Genesis.
I would have checked every bolt and screw on the so called mountain bike, before even GOING UP the mountain.
I agree, the Mexican plates were the best experience :)
Reminded me of the first time I went mountain biking with my cousin. He invited me, and since I loved riding bikes as a kid, I went. So I stopped at the first pawn shop and got a little 26incher a hyper to be exact. 20 minutes later, I was walking back, lol. But it was fun. While it lasted.
I just bought one, realized the front "suspension" is only springs, I'm in trouble đ€Ł
I just bought one too... $174 tho.
@@michaelp2798 you're screwed then...
Its better then nothing though, my brother and i go for a ride in the woods very often and he doesn't Even have front suspension. He can't complain thought he bought it for 80 bucks
Many more professional mountain bikes in the 500-800 dollar range also use springs. Matter of fact, was just looking at a $300 rear suspension shock that uses an internal spring with a small charge of air to set the sag height.
*This is what I have to ride with everyday... it makes me feel like im not as bad as I thought I was, its just my bike*
I'm actually amazed on how these bikes stood up to the abuse you guys gave it. It would be fun to see what upgrades would make them blue trail worthy and still be cheaper than your standard entry level but capable mountain bike. How about a hardtail for the same price next time? đ
You may not have considered the ride âfunâ, but it is one you will remember. Reminded me of some of my old mt bike rides 30+ years ago long before suspension. All about the adventure of the ride and not about the need for speed. Although I do enjoy a good zip down a narly trail
its just like top gear where they by cheap cars and drive for 1000s of miles on rough terrain till they are to run down to even move
cole royer I love the specialsâș
They fucked up the show now tho
I miss the OG top gear specials. Grand tour has them though.
Most people who buy these bikes would NEVER go on trails like these. This is for riding around the neighborhood or sidewalks. Still, good video
Yeah these bikes are usually ridden by kids, and winos who can't stay sober enough to get their drivers license back.
I did...as a kid. .
Michael Booth Yep, Iâm too young and broke to get anything better. Nevertheless, I beat the crap out of em đđ
I ride one of these in my local meadows, thereâs a dirt hiking trail thatâs really fun to ride on
My son got hooked on mountain biking on a cheap mongoose, now we both have real beginners hardtails. Back when I was a kid, the Kmart bikes were not even half as capable. I did plenty of trail riding on a 10 speed Columbia with road tires, then promptly destroyed the Columbia "mountain bike" I got for Christmas.
My parents finally got me a Bridgestone for graduating high school, I just finally upgraded to a specialized hardrock this year.
The biggest difference I see is that I can ride much faster, and so can my son. Of course we still get passed by people on 29 inch full suspension bikes, especially over obstacles and rocky trails.
I had a $550 hardtail rockhopper that served me well for years. This bike made me fall in love with MTB. Spend a little more and get a bike that can stand up to the trails! đđ€
I know this is a old video but damn is it comical. That bike has soooo many noises it makes đ€Łđ€Łamazed it stayed together