Jordan Peterson: Psychopaths and lifetime predictors for success
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"Make the world that put you here, happy that you were put there" - Jordan Peterson
I hope this becomes a timeless quote
jason fontaine i
Sure, smile and put on a happy face!
we all hope for that Brother! greetings!
Depends on the world I'm living in. Try saying that to a jew in nazi germany and he'd have to suicide to make the world happy
This man motivates me more than anyone else. Just brilliant.
This makes me proud to be a mechanic. We get alot of shit but I am honest and paid justly.
You put me out in fucking Gulag I would be a shit mechanic fuck that. I know my customers personally I keep in touch with them. I never rip them off.
I hear you. I've been a woodworker for 25 years now. I run my own small workshop making windows & doors and sometimes furniture. I always give my potential customers a detailed estimate, always deliver on time as agreed upon, and never cheat on the price. I've never had a complaint, on the contrary ; the only 'marketing' I need is satisfied customers' recommendations. I take pride in my craft and that shows in the finished product. Some of the stuff I make can last for hundreds of years if properly maintained. I am my own man, I don't owe anyone anything. I have a good life.
mannnnn, why can't you live in my town? Not an honest mechanic in the place XD
"Be a Light not a Blight"...I like it.
It is true about CEO's - I work in Financial Services where the CEO's generally rotate and move on every 3 / 4 years
lol this... so many "directors" who happen to get a new job every 3 years
That kind of proves his point. Every three years you get a new incoming psychopath to replace the old outgoing psychopath. If they were not so predominantly psychopathic, they would not need to changed every 3/4 years.
Thank you for posting this great reminder!
Bit at 5 minute made me cry out of blue
Challenge: every time JP says 'bloody', clean your room.
He's so eloquent at saying "don't be a bitch"
When Peterson says "chaos," in my opinion, he uses the term loosely to roughly mean degeneracy or lack of order that leads to allowing entropy to dominate and give rise to suffering. He imagines in chaos an undifferentiated sameness which would be the result of diffusion. In systems thinking, which he comes very close to alluding but doesn't have the numeracy to delve into, chaos or chaotic-ness specifically means extreme sensitivity to initial conditions. Chaotic systems are not disorderly per se. If all the parameters of their action were known, they would be perfectly understood and predictable as the deterministic systems that they are. It is just that, seen from the outside, their workings are near impossible to infer. Thus, chaos, as a concept, is in fact closer to complexity than a lack of complexity the sameness of diffuse states would imply. I think the reason he prefers to use the term chaos in preference to the more accurate term disorder is because the word chaos is used in mythology; and the idea that disorder is worse than order would be a hard sell because much of what Peterson abhors was done in the name of das Ordnung in the previous century.
"A psychopath has to keep moving from place to place, because once he reveals himself as deceitful and untrustworthy, he has to go find new suckers to fleece." - Peterson
But what if a psychopath is high in intelligence and well-educated and therefore is able to figure out how to get people en masse so confused that they overlook and ignore the clues to their nature? What if there are psychopaths as smart as Dr. Peterson, and he hasn't noticed them yet?
cliftut Yep.Thats the thing and it happens that to be at the top you got be that.
those are the only psychopaths who get ahead, all the other ones remaining keep playing the mediocre sociopathic game of dominating low-status people
Emi Lion There’s a lot of truth to what you said. A good person can start out in business and get lucky and succeed and make a lot of money and do well simply because they were lucky. What’s so sad is the higher they go or the better they do the more haters they attract and the more abuse they’re subjected to. A lot of people have never dealt with smear campaign‘s and projection and gaslighting so even though they were successful this hideous treatment comes as such a shock that it can actually take a successful person down and bring them to their knees and destroy everything they’ve worked for. More needs to be done to educate people on abusers and their tactics and how they will destroy others who they feel like they are beneath them for whatever reason.
Then that company that he works for are full of idiots if they are all clueless and you probably dont want to work there anyway.
Ya that’s would be Jeffrey Epstein
We should strive to be a very good human being.. helpful and honest. This is within the reach of everyone whatever profession we have..
and do you see any powerful person doing that and why should they.
Xenon To be helpful and honest is powerful.
From what I’ve seen..empathy and emotion are weaknesses..subconsciously we seek out people like this for leadership “psychopathic” or not. A Lack of fear is what gets you to the top.
That’s nonsense. The lack of fear creates impulsivity. The lack of fear might impulsively get you to the top. But it won’t keep you at the top. People who have studied psychopath in detail know that the Achilles heal of psychopathy is impulsivity. Most of the time, you can absolutely nail them to the wAll if you set a trap for them. Even if they know it’s a trap, their arrogance and impulsivity will make them go for it and they get nailed. I have taken 3 psychopaths down in my career. I have used their impulsivity and arrogance against them. Empathy and emotion are not weaknesses. Once the people around you know that they will benefit from your character of generosity and loving nature, they will put you in a position of authority because they know your character will reward them and in turn they will reward you financially for your character.
Everyone should have fear. FeAr is a tool nature has given us to survive threats. Consequently, if you have pathologically have no fear, you will do impulsive and arrogant things that will put you at risk of getting nailed. And you will ultimately get nailed.
I agree that you should manage your fear. You should fear only god and the universe. Because the metaphysical laws of the universe will return to you what you put out. “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction”. That’s gods law described by Newton and written in the fabric of existence. Even if you get away with criminal behavior, that law dictates that there is a heaven and hell and you will get your butt roasted on firey lava.
Lacking fear is stupid. Confidence in your abilities and consciousness of your weaknesses is what matters in the long. Having fear and ability of manage fear will determine long lasting success.
The honeybadger is listed in the Guinness book of world records as the most fearless animal on earth. But it’s fearless against snakes because he knows he is physically immune to their poison. So it attacks the snakes. The honeybadger does not initiate an attack against the elephant because it is intelligence and knows he can get stumped to death. The honeybadger does not initiate an attack against a lion or a leopard because it knows it will get chewed to death. They only fight to save their young or to flee from the pack of lions. When there is lack of food, they then initiate a fight against a larger animal because they will either die of starvation or die of being bitten by a lion. Starvation will surely kill them 100% of the time. But in a fight against a lion, they still have a small chance of success. Thus, they have to MANAGE their fear because they are forced to fight and have to fight.
Absolutely not. Empathy and emotion are not weaknesses.
You literally can not exist without emotions, because emotions form our motivations. Humans make goals because pursuing and achieving those goals makes you happy. That is emotion.
There is no reason to be successful without emotions, there is no motivation to lead or go to the top without emotions.
Now, negative emotions can be a hindrance, but that doesn't matter. They can be a great help if you use them right. And people who are brave and capable of controlling their negative emotions are not psychopathic.
so valuable!!
Completely overlooks superficial charm of psychopaths. It takes them places the honest ones don’t go
Be a light instead of a blight
I have to keep moving...
Yea, but what about "high functioning" smart psychopaths.?
Essential truth more important than ever 2023'
I hope one day I can be as down to earth and wise as this man
What's the plumbing test for a (5).Story?
HERO
what's this related to psychopath?
Exactly!
I have in the past considered my self conservative and still do, but laws don't stop crime, honest, honorable, self respecting people do and don't commit crimes, and not because a law say's so. There are plenty of arbitrary laws just to make people break them as a system of control from one group over another. Most people I'm in contact with want something, they treat me with respect, and will gladly pay me for my services on a voluntary basis and I reciprocate, not by force, not by manipulation, that is the type of world I and most others live in. However, when I see government I see a group of people forcing others to pay them for their service by force , coercion, manipulation and violence, they are unscrupulous people appearing sociopathic in nature, and a ruling class, yet they have convinced the majority that they are necessary and people accept them as rulers over their lives because that's the way it's always been. If we applied the same standard to government we apply to ourselves then they wouldn't be needed and we would work toward bettering our own lives by helping our neighbors at them same time , but in order for that to happen people have to stop sending their children to government brainwashing centers for education and take responsibility for their own future. Life is to short to be forced to live it under someone else's limiting control, so long as you harm no one or their property you should be able to live as you please, but if you do harm someone take responsibility for it and make it right.
I'm going to preface this comment with the fact that I listen to a lot of Jordan Peterson, and a lot of what he says rings true, but I have to disagree with Jordan on his one-dimensional view of the political spectrum here. Libertarianism and authoritarianism are not exclusive to left or right. Either side can adopt a libertarian and/or authoritarian view, and there are multiple issues in which you can go either way.
apocalypseap 100%, government size is independent to economic power of the government.
Wow...
You could have used air pressure to test the pipes. use balloons to seal the vents and use air compressor with a pressure gauge. 60 psi. that way you don't flood the basement. How did the Drywall turn out ? Where did they land on the Drywall Hierarchy chart ?
you are supposed to wait 48h before putting water after glue. smart istp tip. maybe the plumber was right...
The one I’m confused with is the statement. “The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour”?? I managed to change and continue to work on positive change! How would anyone taking on the Dr Phil statement would ever have confidence to change their ways in a constructive fashion?
@george george How about you shut the fuck up and come to terms with the fact that the message inspired him. Fucking idiot....
One million Thumbs Up
-apprentice carpenter/worksite manager/going to trade school
PERHAPS that's why we have the term narcissistic
came here from a programming playlist, idk why this video was in there
but his post left right stuff is good
What about affirmative action?
I think Jordan is missing a major point and distorting a very important goal of societal progress, which is to bring as much equality to a child's life as possible, then let them gain from there contributions or service. The fact is that there are children who are born into extremely dysfunctional families and if they have never received the right type of guidance or lessons; which often can only come from parents; they are left a mess and as a cost to society. By only judging them you will not solve the problem, but rehabilitation may be a good thing for them and society... which obviously costs more the later it is done.
Smart people who work hard get ahead
Smart people with great luck, opportunities and hard work get ahead.
@@digbybaines7813 opportunities are there, you just need to take them. Being complacent is not smart
@@theelderelk5582 Yes, an intelligent illiterate disabled 12 year old Pakistani child making Nike shoes to help feed his neglectful and abusive family and the intelligent healthy well-educated 12 year old son of a caring american billionaire father both have some degree of opportunities to get ahead in life and needn't be complacent. But let's also acknowledge that the opportunities for one are not the opportunities of the other.
@@digbybaines7813 yes, imagine the most extreme possible bad scenario and compare it to the opposite extremely good scenario. That will disprove the idea that, broadly speaking, if you're smart and work hard, you'll get ahead in life. I realise I'm wrong now, thanks.
@@digbybaines7813 weird that you had to make up some stupid story to try and prove your point
Gotta love him
Insert beater joke here. I like to beat on my world almost every day.
This demonstrates that JP uses playback on most of he's speeches
G S I’m not sure what you mean, could you please?
Intelligence is overrated, integrity is primary
Not at all. Integrity is sklavenmoral for people who are too weak to achieve what they really want.
Integrity is primary to one who is to consider cooperation, and a stable way of being. Intelligence would dictate this to be so, but I hear your sentiment. I would fundamentally agree, that integrity is crucial, and takes precedence once acknowledgement of honor is realized. If nothing else, it allows a focus to become progressive... instead of dividing ones attention to matters that would otherwise impede it, due to paranoia, and essentially chaos.
@@gardenboundbylove2193 For law firms, being competent is number one and keep your integrity to yourself and make money
@@ilikefoodcrazy Integrity (admittedly, even only as a concept to offer *client) gives power to both parties involved with the case. It is a sad state of affairs though, and I know what you are saying. It is politics, and a shady *business as such, money talks...
Having integrity takes intelligence
Hard work seems to be more important than intelligence.
Well, there is some truth to that, which is basically, our minds can learn new and difficult things if you put the effort into it. The great minds of the world didnt get to discover or invent what they had because of just talent. They worked harder than anyone in their field, but you obviously need some intelligence to have the potential to learn.
Somewhat Yes, but it's intelligence that makes your Hard work eficient
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I wish Jordan peterson was my dad
He's talking about *CZcams,* right?
He is arguing from a point of view that prerequisites that an entire population has common sense?
But most people don’t!
And then what
He's right about one thing - not every CEO is a psychopath. But statistically, about 40% are. By comparison, only 1-3% of the general population are psychopaths. The most important predictor of success in a corporate structure is neither intelligence nor hard work, but psychopathy. But that doesn't fit his narrative.
Exactly!
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I respect Jordan but I'm struggling to see how this advice is applicable to everyone although I can see how it's applicable to some people...
Go watch what he says about creative people and how they are best at the top of the hierarchy but get stuck at the bottom where they are useless... and how they have to do their creative stuff on the side... Then in this video, he is claiming that hierarchies are essentially efficient enough... but I personally just see the entire economic system as a slave factory run by people who care more about money than humanity... so why give all your power to them by becoming their workhorses?
He assumes the world is fair if you play by the rules and work hard. Creatives have their shit stolen in this new digital world. Theft of music, books, and movies are killing us.
@EveryDayIsAGoodDay
What do you suggest?
I think when he suggested to try different hierarchies, he could have added, "and use those to at least keep you alive and build your character while you try to start a new one, if you are creative." At least that's one possible idea.
I do think Peterson makes some good points about entitlement in other videos. We think THIS is slavery? Well maybe it is, but a big component of that is inside us. There is a difference between someone who is an ignorant slave to that system and someone who is aware of what's going on and takes advantage of the tests it provides to develop inner strength. That doesn't mean you opt-in to its evils. But part of the problem is that you don't opt-in in the first place, you grow up in it and it becomes a part of you more than you think.
In real slavery escaping is no simple matter, you can't just opt-out. So you pay attention, get smart, and guard your soul. Then maybe you can do something. Or at least that's my thinking.
Yes, the state of the world is absolutely terrifying. So what do you propose? Do you think we can do something about it? What can people turn to to give their lives meaning?
To really talk to each other and try to avoid heading toward annihilation indicates meaning and sense of value in that course of action. Otherwise it would be a meaningless conversation, and any outcome would be equally fine. How are you using the terms "meaning" and "natural"? By one definition, I would say that part of our issue is that many or most people are already doing what is "natural" for them - that which is effortless. Or are you using a definition of "natural" that suggests people would have to work in some way? Such as "serving nature" or a "natural state"?
I understand if it seems like I'm nitpicking words. As far as I've seen most discussions get nowhere, though, unless people are very careful to make sure that they are using the same definitions, or at least understand each other's definitions.
yes he undnestands..........................
The message is great. His delivery leaves a lot to be desired.
I see nothing wrong with his delivery. Peterson is always a pleasure for me to listen to.
What the everloving fuckity shit are you talking about?
This delivery was one of the best we've got from Peterson. The whole speech was well done front-to-back.
This guy is so right these sjws are deluded however i do believe a resource based economy can and will work has he ever discussed that topic or does he just dismantle communism and socialism?
_"resource base economy"_
So... cash? The heck do you think we've got already? Money is literally a holdover value which is equalized across goods and services. This piece of resource is worth this or that much. Said amount can be traded back and forth or kept in spare for future use. It's like bartering, but you can hold onto a tertiary something for long periods of time.
You _literally_ exchange resources when you hand over money to someone over _anything_.
A resource based economy does not use money. Google the venus project or watch the second and third zietgiest films.
It should read "for PERSONAL success by screwing everybody else"...
it's a hierarchy of the Best liars and thieves in the third world countries!!
I think a lot of psychopaths can’t help it. They literally have different chemicals in their brain that make them ruthless and untruthful that way.
6:15 gulag, it was never a taboo topic like holocaust. In fact People make fun of gulac by making an egoshooter out of it. Double moral. F-ck this. This is inhumane.
Mr. Peterson has obviously never come across the works of his great compatriot, Alan Watt from CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com
or never read e.g. the groundbreaking book "The political Ponerology" by Polish psychiatrist, Andrzej Łobaczewski, PhD.
In terms of politics, Mr. Peterson, they all do tend to be psychopats, alas.
Alan Watt talks about psychopats in politics on a regular basis, e.g. his latest Blurb:
czcams.com/video/F9ntfzu4HXc/video.html
On the book:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ponerology
An interview with late Mr. Andrew Lobaczewski:
czcams.com/video/DU7LKAsjt4k/video.html
A website dedicated to his studies:
www.ponerology.com/
Is he drinking beer?
lifetime predictors for success over a lifetime ????
T 2017 kek
biaprtsanships demorcacyr huam rnigths and rule fo law.
whatever jordan peterson , how can he stand there ranting about how the system works
I find he hit's every single sign of psychopathy. maybe even rings some new bells, that shows he's hit advanced levels of crazy town.
Ugh, is it just me or does this guy get more intense, aggressive and angry as he gets older? His more recent talks are so much harder to listen to than the older material because it's just so hostile and aggressive. Most of this rant doesn't even hold water. You can still have healthy and functioning societies with hierarchies of competence but which are also more egalitarian - the two things are not mutually exclusive. One only has to look at Scandinavian societies, which are highly egalitarian and socialist, they outperform all other countries on social indicators of health and well being. Statistics show time and time again they are better societies to live in than the ones that embody savage individualistic and capitalistic ideals. Improving quality of life and equality for all does serve the highest benefit to the society.
america!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg I'm a psychopath...I just realized this
What makes you think that
He should stick to psychology.
angry little narcissistn
This guy's historical knowledge of non-western societies are pathetically zero. His western perception bias is absolutely not helpful
"Make the world that put you here happy that you were put there."
But I thought you said happiness makes you stupid?
"None of this egalitarian equity (did you mean equality?) is not good for anyone, first of all it's impossible, 2nd it would be murderous to impose, but third even if it succeeded it would fail..."
This is as incoherent as a fundie Christian or Islamist sermon. What are you even talking about?
"Equality" is about civil rights. My freedom to swing my fist ends before it causes you unnecessary harm (and "fist" can be figurative here). This isn't something that can be imposed. It is the result of eliminating abuse.
Hierarchies are inefficient. A distributed network is the solution. Looks like you recognize this with some of the bits about borders. Hmm...
Equity = equality of outcome - in contrast to equality of opportunity. He said what he meant to say. So your comment (conclusion) is incorrect as you assumed he meant 'equality'.
Seems to me - since he paired "equity" with "egalitarianism" he means the property of _fairness_
These people don't want to play fair. It's that simple. It's some kind of insidious marriage of the worst of Ayn Rand's political and social philosophy with the more sinister varieties of Judeo-Christian modernity.
I got mine, fuck everybody else. My freedom to swing my fist and kill you with it is fine - because I can do it and maybe you're too weak to stop me. Making this illegal is imposing restrictions on my natural freedom.
My freedom to trap you into financial servitude...
My freedom to deceive you - if you're dumb enough to trust me, you deserve it...
Might makes right. Argumentum ad baculum. It's naturally this way so it should be. Bla bla bla, heard all these rationalizations ad nauseum.
The right is as bad as the left. No one's fooling me here.
Imposing fairness through equity trumps idea of hierarchies - they are not needed then. Why bother trying to better yourself, to try and achieve something when someone else will get the same reward as you without trying?
Different topic is that there are many, many hierarchies, and not all of them are 'good'... You can aim to be the worst person around - and the same rules apply here. You can achieve success in that.
In my opinion in regards to social interactions and coping with other fellow men there is no better model than hierarchies model.
Hierarchies are not always inefficient, but it seems to me that networks are just as ubiquitous in nature as hierarchies, in fact I suspect all hierarchies are embedded within networks on some level of analysis. Peterson obviously knows that everything is connected, and it seems like dialogue is an example in a sense of a non-hierarchal interaction or relationship. I'd like to see Peterson explore the concept of networks, as it seems incomplete to deal with things only in terms of hierarchies.