The tomato growing experiment has had a small change | Brad’s atomic grape
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- Who doesn't want free tomato plants? Even I couldn't resist so I've planted a couple of suckers from my Brad's Atomic Grape tomato plants and firstly I was genuinely amazed at how quickly they root and turn into viable tomato plants and secondly I'm curious. Can I grow these tomatoes outdoors in my garden? It may be too late to try to grow these outdoors for me now but I thought it was a perfect chance for another gardening experiment, and as the plants were free then if it doesn't work then I'm not losing precious plants.
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I love hearing about Scotland. My grandfather told me stories about it. His great grandfather was from Scotland. But your yard looks beautiful. I like watching ya'll.
Where in Scotland was he from, do you know?
Just want to say that I find your videos so relaxing at the end of a long day at work. I so want a greenhouse but that will have to wait! Thank you.
Awww that’s lovely to hear Paul. I absolutely get you… sometimes after work, you just need a switch off of some kind, something that marks the end of one thjng(work) and start of another (home). For us, we spend 10 mins in the garden deadheading and tidying at the end of everyday, just to relax a bit
All those fibres on the stem turn into roots when planted deep. This year I grew a stack of tomato plants using the seeds of a ripened in the fridge. I was tickled pink. 👍🎉🥳
I think of gardening as adulting but you make it fun and exciting so here's to the next 17k 😘🍅
Oh no no no…. I don’t do adulting oh no… nope can’t be having that Amanda 😍😂😍😂😍😂
🥳 17k woohoo, congratulations. I really look forward to your vlogs, so please, never ever ever ever stop 😁
😂😂😂 I’ll do my best
I grow a lot of suckers & My advice is that you need to keep those suckers out of direct sunlight for about 9 days before taking back outside/repotting. They need time to boost grow a capable/stable root structure while also defending themselves in wilt mode. It happens really fast but they just need protection from the heat of direct sun for 7 to 9 days... They will normally be ready when their wilt has clearly gone & When done & potted on they can go direct into a final growing position and will do amazing & will do far better than a seed grown plant in many cases. They often give lower fruit trusses too. That's just my experience... . :)
Yeah this is standard with all propagation, like you say just to give the little guys less things to fight while they regain their strength
Hi Eli, great video, will be interesting to see how they progress 🙂 thanks for sharing and take care 🙂
I just popped two tomato suckers in a pot today. Glad to hear it worked for you. I wanted to have some tomato plants for fall. Thanks Freda
Excellent Freda, fingers crossed for your wee plants
@@eliandkate You can create little greenhouse protectors by cutting the bottom off a big plastic bottle, leave the cap off to ventilate.
Oh I’ve taken mine out of the greenhouse, was just too hot for them at the minute. They are under enough stress without adding heat 😂😂😂😂
Great video again Eli. Well.....I've never yet managed to get tomatoes to ripen here outside in Dumfries and Galloway. Its a very windy site and even though I move the tubs around each year I can never get red tomatoes! Lack of sunshine I think lol. Anyway, here I am again, tubs of tomatoes. I must be bonkers! Cant wait to see how yours do.
I bet dwarf cherries would be the way to go…. Maybe it needs to be me and you next year… battling the elements 😍
I love all your videos ... please keep them coming. :-)
I’ll do my best 😍
My outdoor tomatoes (located this year, near the house to protect them from the afternoon sun) are going like gang busters. I have none in the greenhouse, since they wouldn't survive more than an hour in there during these summer months. 107 F here, the last two days, which has scalded two of my tomatoes, and one English (Japanese) cucumber.
Strange, I was under the impression that you could grow tomatoes in Scotland during the summer. I didn't know that they had to be in a greenhouse, so I learned something new today.
Good luck with your outdoor tomatoes, and thanks for the tip about planting their suckers, Eli.
I suppose it’s like everything else, if you have the right spot and length of time needed. Some folk do manage to grow tomatoes in their gardens here but you don’t get a huge harvest compared to in the greenhouse because we don’t get enough days with those temperatures. And even though Scotland is tiny by IS standards that actually means we get a huge range in weather conditions… lots and lots of coastline compared to the amount of inland. So two cities 60 miles apart get very different growing conditions. The west coast is famous for the Gulf Stream and being warmer, wetter and being able to grow loads more.
Hey Eli and Kate 👋🏼, I always look forward to a Sunday video. Every subscriber is well earned and is so nice to hear a familiar accent lol love from Falkirk😃🌸🥦🍓
Awwwww thank you Stephen
Much appreciated and I love when I get Scottish subscribers, makes it feel all the more special…
Am I the only grower of tomatoes that think , gasp , horror !! that Brads ( Tony ) and crimson Crush {Steve) are not worth growing? so wot do I grow ? Sun gold , Honeycomb , Sweet million , G.Delight Rosella , They are grown every year . But Like to try something new and this Year Jubilee ! Bumble Bee and Shimmer . AND what about Purple Tomatillo Purple Physalis Ixocarpa ( look it up , for something different.)
You can grow what you like Barrie same as Tony and Steve etc can too.
Hello!
I've been enjoying watching your vlogs from Japan. I am pleased to know that you use my country's tool, Hori Hori! As you might know Hori Hori means " Dig Dig". Hori Hori is a nice name, isn't it?😊🌱
I could grow my first cherry tomatoes this year in my balcony. I will continue watching your vlogs. Of course, I did subscribed to your vlog!
Have a great day!
I am a massive fan of Japanese gardening tools, they suit me and my style perfectly 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Glad to have you with us YH, and did I ever say, I started with just a balcony…
Hello
Thank you for your kind reply!
I am sorry I have made you confused. You didn't say " tomatoes in balcony...."
By the way, I really like your garden!
It's so tidy and well-organized!
I have just started gardening recently, so your vlogs are very useful for me. Let's enjoy gardening together! 🌱🍅🥒🥕🥔🌽
Not at all YH, no confusion, I was just mentioning our old balcony as you might have been interested 😍
Hello!
I understand. Thank you!
Hello dear , I absolutely love watching your beautiful gorgeous garden , again I really love watching all your plants and absolutely you've done such great fantastic job .
Glad you are enjoying it Maya
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Congratulations on 17K 🎉🌻🎈!!! Even the small suckers will root(actually sometimes faster), nothing better than a free plant! Someone had suggested rooting a sucker off their plant in Autumn and keeping alive inside throughout winter to see if that will give a jump start to the next season. I may try that for experiments sake even though it’ll likely just be stunted. I don’t have any of the same varieties of tomatoes as you’re growing but they’re coming along better than they did last year so I’m excited about that. We’ve also escaped the over 100F days for June(although today is suppose to be close😬) so they’ve had it a bit easier. Your garden looks great as always, you guys do a wonderful job, thanks for sharing!
Oh Llama Llama that’s an awesome idea for an experiment… I can’t wait to see how that goes 😮😮😮😮😮
We are mad…mad about Eli and Kate! I don’t have room to start more tomatoes with the suckers. But such a great idea. I cut some basil to cook with. The extras have been in a cup of water. They have roots now. I think I’ll pot them out so I get even more basil…question, I think you said that typically Indeterminate tomatoes get topped after so many trusses of fruit. Over never really done that. I just let them grow and grow. Especially the cherries. I take off suckers but let the main stem go. Should I “top off” others like larger varieties? Maybe that is why I wait so long for them to ripen. Let me know what you think.
Ahhh but you live in lovely sunny land Baron. It might not be a thing for you guys, but in the UK it’s traditional because the weather and light starts to get pants by about, we’ll mid July for me and I think end of Aug down south, so we do it to give the plant a chance to focus on ripening what’s on the stems before it gets too cold.
Not sure if you’d need to or maybe at the end of this season, count how many ripe trusses you’ve had and then nip out to one more? And see if that helps?
My RotKappchen and Latah are super healthy. I was ever so late getting started, something g like the 23rd of April and they have been outside from germination in North Norfolk U.K..but they are going from strength to strength. No fruits yet, but flowers 😀
You should be fine. I imagine tomatoes grow reasonably well outdoors in Norfolk 😍😍😍
Best of luck Eli with the Baby Brads (Baby Steve's?) It will be interesting to see how they do outdoors. I'm planting more toms this week also, third tunnel this time, got them everywhere. Now, should I plant some more sideshoots do you think?...Steve...😂😂
Yeah go for it…. How about an entire tunnel of side shoots??????
@@eliandkate I have about 25 sideshoot plants to be planted later this week, That might be enough !...Steve...🙂
Congrats 17k, keep spreading your tips & trick. Have learned a lot. I have tried the side shoot trick. Amazing results. More and larger fruit then the mother plant.
Excellent that’s good to know 😍😍😍
Hi Eli, I have taken so many stickers this year but have popped them straight into water and they root just as well before I plant them on. They don't look as sad either for the first 3-4 days lol. I'm going to grow along outside with you too, but I'm waiting for some pots to come free once my elephant garlic is ready. Good luck with yours. Thank you once again for a great vlog 😊
Suckers.....not stickers 🤨🤣🤣
I’m waiting on some bed space from pulling my garlic too…. So tempted to just yank it now 😂😂😂
@@eliandkate Mine has rust on it, so feeling a bit scared as to what I'll find. Do you think i should pull it out now, if it has rust or leave it? 🤔
It kinda depends… the rust only affects the leaves so if it’s not sooo bad that it might be stopping them photosynthesising then you might be ok
@@eliandkate ahhh ok, maybe pull it now as there aren't many green leaves left on it 😭 Thanks so much Eli 😉
I planted two types of of tomatoes outside this year - noch supposedly
restitant to almost everything.
One of them - Prima Bella - was completely munched away by slugs....
Oh nooooo
Not sure if I can‘join ‘ the tomato grow along, so if I’m commenting in the wrong place, please feel free to ‘redirect me’!
I live in a townhouse,no real garden and for the last few years have successfully grown tomatoes on my top floor balcony, in pots. This is just outside my bedroom! So I wake up to a ‘jungle view’. Anyway this year I only growing 21 plants, no hanging cherries as they refused to germinate! Growing a variety, Alisa Craig, Orange Princess, Tigerella, Black Opal, and a small plum cherry, ( can’t remember it’s name)!
Also got 3 aubergine up there with the toms.
Previous years I’ve ended up with tons of tomatoes, made lots of Passata and just frozen the tomatoes, and of course ‘green tomato chutney’, made about October time, so nothing wasted!
I’m always amazed at folk having massive harvests from balconies. I started on a balcony and got diddly squat 😂😂😂😂
4 floors up, so no pests or blight, and a lot of plants, but we use them all! ( this year might be rubbish of course)!
Good luck with the outdoor Tom's, my greenhouse Tom's have started producing fruit!
Yay… yeah our greenhouse toms have given us about 10 ripe fruits so far but outdoor is far far behind
my last year outdoor tomato here in glasgow are good but i dunno this year
I’m finding that the weather is so unreliable… I have years worth of records and this last couple of years have just been completely unpredictable. Everything has taken so much longer
I’m in Falkirk and I’ve grown my tomatoes outside with great success outside last year. They were all cherry tomatoes but I’m trying some bigger this year!
Oh will be exciting to see how that goes
Love experimenting in the garden. Last year I harvested seeds from a variety of plants and have had success with germination and growth. Thank you for the tip on larger pots adding some additional nutrients. Do you pick off the first flowers on your indeterminate Tomatoe plants? Some “weirdos on the internet” have suggested doing that as a way to get a more bountiful harvest by putting the plants early energy into growing roots and foliage rather than fruit . Just curious.
Nah I never have, same with peppers and things. I leave it 😂😂😂
Cool Eli. Did you use suckers or side shoots?
Suckers come from the root system under the soil surface, side shoots grow from the leaf axil. I see Steve used side shoots.
The trouble with using suckers is, if you have a grafted tomato then you are just growing a new rootstock - unless, of course, you want more rootstock LOL
You would say sideshoots then.
Most folk I speak to know them as suckers (except on trees) and use the term suckers so rather than try to score points or to try to look clever it’s more useful for me to use terms people recognise as part of explanations. It’s why I stopped using latin botanical names as well.
@In the Garden with Eli and Kate
You say, "Most folk know them as suckers and use the term suckers so rather than try to *score points* it’s more useful to use terms people recognise as part of explanations. It’s why I stopped using latin botanical names as well."
A pity really as it only takes one or two respected channels to give things the wrong name and for one or two followers to copy them and the next thing you know, its name has changed incorrectly. Think calabrese and broccoli, spring onions and green onions, microgreens and shoots etc
I was just asking if you were potting on side shoots or suckers.
Please don't think the scoring points thing was a reference to you Steve, that maybe didn't come across as well as I thought it did in my head. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I guess it depends on the purpose of your channel. We have a similar thing where we are trying to make gardening fun and less daunting (which we know it can be). We both have a more relaxed laid back approach (yes I'm a sneaky subscriber on your channel) whereas a lot of channels/blogs etc are about looking like experts. That's just not something I'm interested in. My purpose was to try to encourage folk to garden in some small way. Specifically aimed at folk (like me) who maybe felt they weren't really the gardening type or would be welcomed with open arms at an allotment site etc. When it comes to language, I know some people don't like it when they see UK CZcamsrs using American names and commonised terms but you have to use language that your audience use (so if you are one of the channels that are about showing your expertise, you would be using botanical terminology or using the most recent names for things cause we know it always blooming changes), it's why I say spring onions instead of cybies which is the correct term in Scotland, same with blackberries instead of brambles and on and on. In the name of the wee man that was the longest explanation ever so I should shut up. All in all :D. I'm soooo not one of these respected channels you speak of... I'm the small fry at the back of the queue with that one but I do maybe put an awful lot more thought as a teacher into the videos than I let on - hence the enormous reply sorry about that. Hope you at least had a coffee.
Totally understood Eli! Made me smile with the cybies which I've not heard since the 90s!
Please don't start with the Scottish names for veg as I've only just re-acclimatised LOL.
Had an argument with a pub quizmaster once over the answer to the question, "In the dish Haggis & Neeps, what are Neeps?" but that's a story for another day!
Have a great week up there, guys.
Oh there’s a thing up here (politicians) wanting to make supermarkets use the Scot’s names for things… sometimes you just have to chill and accept that language changes… it’s not the end of the world
I am late to the party or have you got a pair of new fruit trees and a fig??!! 😍😍
Ha ha ha had the fig tree a couple of years and the apples just this year. Haven’t really spoken about them as there’s nothing to mention yet 😂
@@eliandkate oh can’t wait to see your harvests coming in. Not sure what my fig is doing this year I think it’s been too shaded by the monster of a budlia it’s next to. Can’t wait to get some fresh apples. I’ve got 6 apples 4 that are fruiting. I still want to buy more 😂
It’s our first year so no fruit for us
What did you add to your compost from the pink bin? 🤔
Perlite for my potting mix. Gives a bit of drainage
Hi Eli
My Tomatoes Rotkappchen
Are doing really well in the green house and on the patio
Should I take off some of the leaves
As the plants are around 3.5 foot tall
Would love you advise
No Susan
There’s no reason to take leaves off, they are little bush plants
@@eliandkate thanks so much Eli great utuber
You always find the time to answer
Peoples questions! 👩🌾💐
What have you got on top of your outdoor tomatoes? ( white)
It’s spline grit to stop the birds digging in the pots. We’ve got problematic blackbirds 😂😂😂
Wouldn’t miss your videos for quids! 🌏💙🤎💚🍃🌿🌱🪱
Awwww quiz’s you say??? 😂😂😂😍😍😍
Hi Eli and Kate one quick question, i have grown Tomatos for years now and you mentioned about pinching the tips off around the 4ft mark, why then have you got a bamboo cane in the pot that looks like it's 6ft+ tall? if you are pinching the tip out at 4ft then have the cane at 5ft. I saw when you carried it out the way how it could easy topple over because of the height of the pole/cane making it a bit top heavy.
Stay Safe,
Barry (the Wirral)
Hey Barry
At wee bit of misunderstanding. Not 4ft… the traditional thing with outdoor tomatoes in the UK is to only let them develop to 5 or 5 trusses… so they can still get to about 5th or 6ft before to snip the growing tip off. Traditionally in a greenhouse you’d let them get a bit bigger, maybe 6 trusses.
But again…. Traditions are only there are guidance, not laws you must adhere to 😀
@@eliandkate Definately a missunderstanding there, i was a bit concerned about the height of the cane compared with the size of the container to the height of the Tomato more than anything.
Ah secret weapon 😀. The canes can be attached to the shed wall… you generally have to attach the canes to something if you’re using them as they will, as you sai, give up the ghost eventually
Please can you tell me what you have on top of your tomato pots.? (The white stuff)? You’ve probably mentioned it somewhere!
It’s just grit as a mulch to stop the birds digging in the pots but it has the added benefit of reducing evaporation
Thank you
I might try adding to my pots, as am finding the water seems to be going right through the compost this year, don’t think the compost is up to much! But the plants seem to be fine!
You could give it a try.
It won’t stop the water draining out the pots but helps reduce the natural evaporation in the hot weather
Hi Eli,
Do you keep your Ikea SORTERA bins outside in the garden or inside the shed? I was looking for something to store compost in but am worried about bugs getting into the bin if I leave it outside.
I keep the one with compost in the greenhouse, the outside ones have perlite, bark and paper
@@eliandkate Do the contents not get wet when it rains?
I have a plastic covering on top of the contents so that keeps them dry.
A little water gets in when it rains but not nearly as much as I thought
@@eliandkate Fantastic, thank you for the quick reply
I have a very important question - I've just realised we have the same IKEA plastic boxes. My plan was to put perlite, grit and compost in each one, but then I saw they didn't look waterproof on the top. Do you have any issues when it rains? Thank you!!
Oh good question
I’ve found they are fine in light rain but not in heavier bursts.
I have a plastic bag over the top of mine just in case
@@eliandkate This is really helpful, thank you! I was disappointed when I saw they weren't water tight but with an old compost bag over the top I'm sure they'll work. I love your painted boxes!
It defo helps
I’ve split an old bag so it’s flat… put it over the top and then the lid. The lid clamps the plastic on and stops any leaks