Hotline Miami 3 And Media Literacy
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Prelude: 0:00
Hotline Miami: 0:10
Hotline Miami 2: 8:41
Midnight Animal: 18:52
Fight Club & Hotline Miami 3: 23:59
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Hotline Miami 3 Teaser (After Credits) • Hotline Miami 3 Teaser...
The End • The End
Hotline Miami: M.O.O.N. - Dust (Seaboard cover) • Hotline Miami: M.O.O.N...
Hotline Miami | All Levels | A+ Rank • Hotline Miami | All Le...
Hotline Miami #1: Pizza • Hotline Miami #1: Pizza
Hotline Miami - Jacket • Hotline Miami - Jacket
Vestron Vulture - New Wave Hookers Metal Cover • Vestron Vulture - New ...
Hotline Miami Assault Richard Only A+ • Hotline Miami Assault ...
Hotline Miami Redux | All Jacket Nightmare Scenes • Video
Hotline Miami: Playthrough Part 10 / Ninth Chapter - Crackdown | No Commentary • Hotline Miami: Playthr...
Hotline Miami: Jacket's Ending • Hotline Miami: Jacket'...
Hotline Miami 2 Beta Music - iamthekidyouknowwhatimean by bonobo required • Hotline Miami 2 Beta M...
Hotline Miami 2; Scene 20: Release (S Rank) by Scott Pickrell • Hotline Miami 2; Scene...
Hotline Miami 2 | Midnight Animal Love & Forgetting: Martyrdom Campaign Walkthrough • Hotline Miami 2 | Midn...
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number - Dial Tone Trailer • Hotline Miami 2: Wrong...
Hotline Miami - Wear Something Fancy Trailer • Hotline Miami - Wear S...
Hotline Miami - Martin Brown, the Pig Butcher • Hotline Miami - Martin...
Hotline Miami 2 - True Deathwish (Hardmode Full Combo) • Hotline Miami 2 - True...
Hotline Miami ALL PUZZLE PIECES AND SECRET ENDING • Hotline Miami ALL PUZZ...
Hotline Miami 2; Scene 8: Execution (S Rank) • Hotline Miami 2; Scene...
Hotline Miami 2: Magic Sword - The Way Home | Metal Version • Hotline Miami 2: Magic...
Hotline Miami 2 on Hard: "Casualties" S Rank • Hotline Miami 2 on Har...
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number (Spoiler) San Francisco Nuke • Hotline Miami 2: Wrong...
Hotline Miami 2 Ending- Where Is My Mind • Video
Gessafelstɛin- Viol [Darkk Matter Bootleg] • Gessafelstɛin- Viol [D...
The Document of Midnight Animal | "Part" 2 • The Document of Midnig...
Midnight Animal - 4/22/2017 Build Showcase • Midnight Animal - 4/22...
History of Midnight Animal • History of Midnight An...
Midnight Animal Soundtrack - F cked The Devil • Midnight Animal Soundt...
The Exegesis of John The Martyr • The Exegesis of John T...
Midnight Animal - Demo Gameplay • Midnight Animal - Demo...
My Work is Not Yet Done - Official Trailer • My Work is Not Yet Don...
Hotline Miami 2 Menu Theme but you're not in the mood for violence • Hotline Miami 2 Menu T...
Hotline Miami: Playthrough Part 13 / Twelveth Chapter - Trauma | No Commentary • Hotline Miami: Playthr...
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Hotline Miami 2 Subway Full Combo (#10 WR) • Hotline Miami 2 Subway...
Hotline Miami 2 - Scene 9 - Ambush - A+ Walkthrough (With S Rank) • Hotline Miami 2 - Scen...
Hotline Miami 2; Scene 8: Execution (S Rank) • Hotline Miami 2; Scene...
Midnight Animal Trailer 2019 (no mine) • Midnight Animal Traile...
The Pixies - Where Is My Mind (Retrowave Synthwave cover) • The Pixies - Where Is ...
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This was a fantastic video, you should be very proud of it. Thank you for talking about one of my favourite games of all time.
Thank you! I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
I know a lot of people hated the ending to HM2. But I think that was honestly the perfect ending for the series. Especially how Richter "finally got it" and Richard consoles him for doing so.
I agree!
There's just nothing more to say. If you want more HM gameplay, you play the editor. The story of both games was unique and was there to send a message for the people. There's just no other theme to make HM3 about
I loved the ending to HM2!!!
Thematic climax
@@papastalin3498 I have finished hotline miami 2, I can now play the stories the community has to tell.
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I don't want to see what stories the community has to tell anymore
The mocking of the fans wanting a sequel kinda reminds me of what super hot did where every time a major mission was completed the player character responded with “MORE” but I haven’t played it fully to go to in-depth.
I’ve only ever finished the first SuperHot game, but that sounds like something that might be interesting to look at for a video. I’m not sure it’s intended as “mocking” in either series so much as just a “reminder” that there is a deeper story going on and that players should pay attention. Thank you for watching!
thats actually in mind control delete, you play as a different person there
Is SuperHot VR also tied into the main story or was that more of a side story?
@@ShyCornAfter having played both, is seems like VR and SUPERHOT (1) are just 2 sides of one story, though I couldn’t tell you how. Haven’t touched MCD though.
i think it has an unique story but im not sure@@ShyCorn
Richter was literally the only person who listened to Richard. Ironic as hell isn't it?
simply put: how can there be a hotline miami 3 WITH NO MIAMI
Edit: and i do remember there being a small moment where they "teased" 3 but i think it was more of a "you want 3? make it your fukin' self" type beat, still the ending was a hell of a send off
Pretty much!
The real Media literacy take lmao
And considering how HM2 had the Level Editor, it really was them basically going 'make the third game yourself, this is where we stop'
@@LogeenthLiveAnd there are some pretty good side stories in there too.
Fallout: New Miami
"Hotline Miami 3 doesn't exist, and maybe that's the point"
Masterful writing, sir
Thank you :D
Yea it does it’s called OTXO
@@lemniscatelogos7917lol, kinda
I have seen a lot of hotline Miami analysis videos and story explanations etc. but this video gave me and surely a lot of people a new point of view. Not the old “you are evil” but the “you are wrong” as in we misunderstood the meaning behind it all. Great video you have earned a reputation sir.🐔
I’m really glad I could offer a fresh perspective! Please share this video around online for other Hotline Miami fans if you can!
@@ShyCornmaybe not fresh (but definitely not stale), just one that isn't given anywhere near as much attention. That's the point of characters like Evan and Richter, they're characters that the audience can feel sympathetic towards and understand why more "normal" -- or at the very least nonviolent -- people could find themselves entering into such acts of brutality as well.
The game does a good job of functioning as a media literacy check. It asks you to look beyond the vibrant graphics, frenetic energy of fight scenes and soundtrack and examine your actions even though the framing tries to lead you to thinking it's good. It's a wake-up call and a reminder none of us are perfectly media literate, and that we need to be examining what we like just as much as the things we do not.
My god what an amazing essay! what also comes to mind is that the "hotline miami 3 teaser" was built into HM2 directly. the "HM3" main menu shows up and then it just stops and rewinds back to the main menu. while on brand with the VHS theming of HM2, it really shows how the devs don't really want to make HM3
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
the devs even joked that they actually taped hotline miami 2 over hotline miami 3 because hm3 sucked, keeping with the vhs theme and referencing the old practice of saving money by taping new videos, tv programs etc. on tapes which already had videos recorded on them, resulting in a lot of lost media
besides, the only thing hotline mami could actually do was to make a post apocalyptic story featuring 50 blessings (because of their hq looking like a fallout shelter/bunker with its large door and thick walls) and jacket
i've seen people say that jacket *could've* survived the blast because he was transported to an underground cell and therefore he could appear in a potential third game, but the explosion clearly blew jacket's cell up as well
@@spaceacepl4636Biker probably survived because he wants to die
I don't think that it's a coincidence that when these games were made there was a rush of nostalgia for the 80s; retrowave and synthwave were at their peaks, Ubisoft had put out Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, Hobo With A Shotgun was in theaters not long before the first game, all of this violent, grindhouse retreading of 80s hits with a desperate sense of escapism. The initial optimism of the 2000s had totally faded by this point, entering into a new decade weary from Terror Alerts, wars fought on "bad intelligence", and a sheer desperation to escape back to a decade of pop culture bliss. The problem really lies in like what happened with Hotline Miami's fans: the decade they crave never existed. The 80s was just as gripped by paranoia, financial instability, and constant proxy wars. There was only a desire to escape to the vibes of the era, no matter how gritty and blood soaked they were, a desire to live in essentially a music video of slasher movie clips, synth music, and eternally beautiful men and women. As someone who dabbled in writing that kind of world, an 80s that did not and could not exist, it's a very seductive idea. Waking you up to the idea that your actions have consequences and that you can die and will die is a horrifying statement to most people, but it's a pretty simple truth. Those who love to hurt people will soon find there's nothing left but ashes. And those who want to escape to a world that doesn't exist based on their incorrect assumptions of what it was like (the 50 Blessings, the Fans and Martin--both are excellent examples of this) will soon find reality will catch up with them no matter how far they run.
"Fine, I will make my own Hotline Miami 3"
And then we had Bloodbath Kavkaz
See, as much as I would love a Hotline Miami 3, I can understand that there was good reasons Dennaton never went through with it.
Hotline Miami 1 was a masterpiece, it had a very subtle but well played out anti-violence message, with really intriguing lore that says “sometimes our questions are best left unanswered”
Hotline Miami 2, while still a very solid game I felt had a slight dip in quality especially in terms of enemy placement and doing the aforementioned answering of questions that shouldn’t be answered, but I believe it was intentional, where Hotline Miami 1 was the developer’s posing a question of whether we found pleasure in hurting others. Hotline Miami 2 was saying “this is why you don’t try to top something that’s near-perfect”
And in my opinion, the teasing with a fake Hotline Miami 3 is both Devolver and Dennaton saying “We said what we needed to say and continuing to try and make our points will ultimately defeat those points”
The thing is, the hotline miami 3 idea they had would have been exactly what the fans wanted. Levels generated endlessly. No story.
Some others have mentioned this in the comments too, but definitely give OTXO a try if you’re looking for Hotline Miami style gameplay with a few really cool twists on the formula!
i mean people like otxo
That's only if you believe the narrative this guy set.
What kind of fanbase doesn't get the main point of the thing they are a fan of?
This dude is trying to come off as a smarty pants. You're being played if you actually believe his claims.
@@fatkiller1000 I was in the hotline Miami modding community. That group genuinely thinks nothing matters and tries to create it's own lolcows to abuse. It's disgusting.
@@fatkiller1000 this man here thinks people online have critical thinking skills lmao. Have you ever met the Fallout fanbase? Bioshock? Maybe Metal Gear Solid? The Coffin of Andrew and Leyley? People say they "like" or "don't like" stuff without actually knowing what the hell they're talking about all the time
Really strong stuff man. Not to bash any other creators but seeing an essay that actually has something to say and not just blowing one point out of proportions is rare these days. Calm editing style and not afraid to critique probably 80% of it's own viewers. Keep doing you, friend.
I really appreciate the feedback, thank you!
Okay, but it would be cool if they made a hotline miami 3
You're wrong
But also yes
Otxo is kinda that.
I keep trying to imagine what that would even be like - like a hyperviolent Threads maybe?
The general idea is great, but it's gonna need something new to stay fresh. Dennis Wedin once said he'd love to see a fantasy-themed Hotline Miami spinoff, and I plan on making that happen someday.
No
Okay, the reveal the reviews were for Fight Club all along got me. During the game's heyday, I was definitely one of those brainless fans who just wanted more content at the time. It's honestly a bit embarrassing to have it laid out how brutally obvious HM2 was being, and to remember that it all went straight over my head at the time.
I’m really glad to hear that the reveal landed well! I wanted to experiment a bit with the structure, writing, and presentation style for this video. Thank you for watching! Please share the video around online if you can :D
And now there's OTXO, which was also made as a spiritual successor to Hotline Miami, while also having references to Midnight Animal (with the developers of OTXO and Midnight Animal being friends).
My read on the series was that the answer to "Do you like hurting other people?" was always supposed to be "yes". The various characters all do, in fact, like hurting other people. Most of them initially try to convince themselves that their actions are in some way justified; that their violence is for the best in some way, but in the end all that it led to was everybody dying and nobody being any better off than they were before.
I can totally see it from that perspective too, good point!
@@ShyCorn To be clear, I still appreciate how well this video illustrates your point. The idea that the fans (the characters) are supposed to represent the fans (of the game) is a new one for me!!
One of my favorite things about making these videos is that it opens up a dialogue with everyone and we get to talk about our experiences and interpretations of these games. I hadn’t previously considered applying that “Do you like hurting other people?” question as a blanket statement about the cast, but it does paint things in a new light for me as well!
@@ShyCorn you can see even Jacket likes hurting other people by reading newspaper's pieces left in his house after every mission. Sure, he's forced by 50 Blessings to do those mission and going in a killing spree against Russian mobsters and RAC politicians, but in the end why did he subscribe to their newsletter? Because he, like the other veterans, felt defeated for how the war ended up. Especially for him knowing about the San Francisco nuke and losing a brother in arms. Doing his actions in HM1 was like an act of revenge for him.
He could've gone hunting down whoever was sending him those messages, but no, he wanted to eradicate the Russian mafia as an act of revenge for everyone he lost.
@@supercasta6642He thought the Russians were sending the messages
this is an incredible video essay and a very well crafted video in general, I’m surprised this doesn’t have more views, because this video is gonna stick with me for a while
I can’t tell ya how much it means to see this video resonating with folks. All I want to do with this channel is make videos that stick with people, so I’m really glad to hear you say that. Please share it around online if you get a chance, that’d help out a ton!
Loved your take on the series. I’m a big fan of the games and while I was someone who wanted a 3rd game for a long time there really is no place for one in the storyline the question that Richard asked jacket “Do you like hurting other people?” Is a really good line that me as an edgy teenager thought about a lot and I think mostly anyone that played the game remembers it as the most popular line from the game but my favorite quote has to be when Richard is talking to Richter at the end of the second game and says “Leaving this world is not as scary as it sounds” this line really stuck with me and I think it’s a perfect reason why there’s no 3rd game your perspective just kinda confirmed my suspicions that everyone dies in the end i.e. hotline Miami dies in the end and all though we wanted more and possibly even still want more, it leaving this world isn’t as scary as it sounds.
Also if you want more hotline Miami style games with the fast action and killer soundtrack and you haven’t played otxo yet I highly recommend it
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I’ve really liked what I’ve played of OTXO so far, and I’m happy to see there’s still games being made that offer gameplay similar to Hotline Miami while putting their own twist on things. Thank you for watching!
The entire thing was amazing and the ending really was the cherry on top. one of the best video essays ive seen in a while
I really appreciate that, thank you! Not many people stick around for the ends of these videos, but I like making them anyway.
I just gotta say, this is eerily relevant to the BioShock fandom. I've seen so many people unironically praise Andrew Ryan's ideas and actions, even though we see the direct results of his actions in real time
It would be cool if there's someone making sequel the hotline miami 3 and the story is about biker's journey in miami that turned into wasteland fighting other survivors and might have a little bit flashbacks about his experience before hotline miami 1
What if the real hotline miami 3, was the violence we enjoyed along the way...
Hey man, great vid.
Hotline miami 2 is... a complex game, I've gone back and forth on it and what I came to regard as the one thing I can confidently say it has going for it.
The first game was just perfect, short, smooth, kinda cryptic but perfectly understandable if you ever bothered to engage it on it's level, it asked "do you like hurting other people?" and then made it really fucking fun to hurt other people, it didn't condemn the player as much as it put a mirror in front of it to ask it what it saw.
And then the second one came and there was lore, relationships, characters and longer levels that were not as fun to play or (at the very least) designed to require caution instead of fast paced brutality, it made hurting other people an act of patience, of premeditated thought, a somewhat tedious action and it didn't ask if we liked it, it asked "why are you still here?"
Oh MAN, that last point is really well put. Hotline Miami 2 definitely feels like more of a slow-paced "puzzle" game than the first game, one where you have to deliberately plan out each step. For the most part... The first game made me feel drunk with power, while the second game made me very aware of how cold and calculating I was.
I’m new to the channel and this just got recommended on my feed, but I have to say:
This is probably one of the best video essays I’ve seen in the past year or two. It was well paced, tied everything together with a nice concise bow, and managed to nail every single detail that comes from the games and the community. Absolutely wonderful! Please keep up the hard work!
That means a ton to hear, thank you so much! I’ve just announced my next video on my Community tab as well. I think you’d probably be interested in it based on your MGS profile picture :D
7:50 - "It's clear that Jacket doesn't like to hurt other people." It really isn't, though. LIke, you're bringing that interpretation to it, but you can just as much interpret the way that when he's hurting people there's ambient music and the experience of a world he can interact with, while the rest of the time there's a buzzing in his ears. Like, if nothing else, it absolutely isn't clear.
The game kind of implies he enjoys killing Russians. He only looks affected when he kills the innocent homeless guy. So yeah I agree, saying the game makes it clear jacket doesn’t enjoy killing is incorrect
A deep and insightful analysis; truly informative!
insert joke about a certain Motherly Maxwell missing the point of hotline miami more than any other human being on earth here
I think it would be funny if the devs hyped up the third ones "release" make a polished demo, a new engine, new storylines and cutscenes, and then just snatch it away and say "Did you really think we were actually making a third game? You gotta get a grip." and then grip everywhere.
I dunno about that. I get the idea, but going to the lengths of basically starting a Hotline Miami 3, creating a new engine, writing a new story, programing those cutscenes, creating promo materials, all for the sake of trolling the player base?
That would just be a waste of everyone's time and more important, a waste of resources. That would be like Toby Fox deciding to release a fake chapter 3 of Deltarune, only to then annouce it was a troll, and decide to purge everything relating to Deltarune. All of that effort and passion, gone. All for the sake of trolling the player.
@@Drax69420that and it’s distasteful and pathetically petty behavior.
Was a joke but okay
@@jerryogpack Your good, just kinda figured it was semi serious due to the topic of the vid. But hope you weren't too mad by what i said
@@Drax69420 To be fair, it would be very funny
I have a confession to make: I have never finished Hotline Miami 2. I loved the first game so intensely that when the sequel released I was incredibly excited! At the time of release, I didn't get the point of the first game. When the game asked if I liked hurting people, I said "in this context, yes.".
Then I played the second one. I got to playing as The Fans, whose own rhetoric was shockingly close to things I had said in the context of the game. It took until about halfway through for the narrative to finally make sense. This game wasn't about the characters, it was about me, who wanted the violence, who wanted the gore and rage to be poured all over each level of the game. It shook me, and I put it down. It really made me think, did I *actually* like hurting people?
And the fact that it got me asking myself that was fucking *terrifying*. Both games are truly beautiful in the way they ask their questions, and the visceral way in which the player is expected to respond.
Omg that song during your credits roll lol I can’t believe it. What a twist in the third act too, well done!
Katana Zero is one of the games inspired by Hotline Miami and I'd say it could work as HM-3. It's story is also a cryptic tale of war veterans struggling with addiction and being no longer needed by the people who created them in the first place.
It's also a better example of a developer able to focus on a theme in a story without viewing it as real life revolutionary political praxis and getting upset when players like the game instead of giving up their hobby
@@Lazypackmuleare we actually turning around on Hotline Miami because it was "woke all along" now? Is that what you're telling me?
@@just_matt214 Please quote where I said anything about the game itself
Also please explain how you disagree with the core concept of the video you're currently replying to and think the mindset of the fans never ever came into conflict with the devs
@@Lazypackmule I'm not? Maybe i misread your original comment, in which case i'm glad i did because my hunch there was really dumb.
@Lazypackmule All media is left-wing and that is completely okay.
One of the best videos on HM I've ever seen, great work. Also reminded me that I need to get around to watching Fight Club.
There will never be another "Hotline Miami" game, but I always smile seeing a reference or a game taking inspiration from the franchise, especially when those games are not trying to succeed HM, but are instead trying to stand on their own and tell their own stories.
Thank you! I think you’ll come away from the movie seeing a fair amount of similarities between it and Hotline Miami, even if they’re subtle ones. I love seeing other games put their own spin on the formula, it’s so cool to see it inspiring other developers even a decade later.
One of my favorites is Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes. The game's creator was inspired to make indie games again after having gone corporate because of HM, and he reached out to Dennaton and ended up becoming good friends with the two lads, adding a sequence of Hotline Miami arcade cabinets in the final level where you get HL2 style cinematics of Travis talking to Richard/Don Juan/Rasmus, Jacket, and Beard. Interestingly, when Travis brings Jacket up to Beard, he tells him not to mention his name, as he's tired and "looking for a place to die". Seems to relate heavily to the themes of this video! Plus Jacket gets to have a semi-happy ending, agreeing to hang out with Travis, kill some people, drink some beers, and play some fucked up games before deciding if he really wants to die just yet.
great and perfect video man, love the way the 4th wall is broken in the second game when the rooster says “huh, thats one way to put it” when he confronts us about our love for violence, it genuinely made me question myself when i played it when i was 15 lol bc the movies and stuff i watch and tend to genuenly like, i know the term is used a lot but this videogame is genuinely a piece of art, genuinely an interactive art experience. and not only that the music and the visual design of the game is complete ART.
Incredible. Hotline Miami is a series I adore and I've always loved dives into it's characters, narrative and themes. One theme that I think ties into your essay is it's themes of finality. The game is drenched in a 'sunset' feeling, the coming end of things. You know how some of these stories are going to end the moment you meet the characters, and the presentation being on a VHS tape takes it feel like it's already done. You're playing it back, you're not recording anything new onto the tape.
A fantastic essay my guy. You really nailed it c:
That’s a really interesting point, I had never noticed the sunset theme before but it fits well! Thank you for watching :D
now THAT is an analysis
Crazy how this game is able to contain so many topics and explain them so well in the story
Thank you! It really is incredible how much Dennaton was able to pack into these games!
thanks for the input sniper with huge pecs
This game and rainworld are the only two games that have made me tear up.
My favorite thing about Beard was that he didn't let the cruelty of the world break him. He died just as good a person as he lived, having finally made it home. Jacket lets his grief and hatred turn him into a monster. The Colonel goes mad in a position he didn't want, fighting a war for a country that doesn't care, knowing full well he's going to send people he cares about home in bags. I find it fitting the only characters that get a "good" ending are the ones that listen to Richard and escape the violence.
Also, "the way home" is a criminally underrated song. It has the most "I keep dying over and over again, but screw it, I'm getting through this. We're getting through this. I will DRAG us through this so we can enjoy life again" energy that fits his character perfectly.
This game helped me understand myself as a person so much I was your standard angry teenager/young adult because of an unpleasant time in school/life had a really bad temper that I kept secret I really liked violence for the sake of it and would chase after it as I got more desensitized to it then I found hotline miami beat it and studied it to the point of obsession when it kind of all clicked this game and more importantly its ending was where I was going to end up seeing a "what if" scenario of how it would play out for me really mellowed me out no more asking insane questions because I finally had an answer this series will forever be a part of me in ways I might never understand to this day I still get misty eyed whenever I see the nuke go off not sure why
Thanks Jonathan and Dennis
I think this is a sentiment shared amongst many fans of the series. Pouring through comments of videos while making this one really puts things in perspective, and to see that in the comments here as well makes me feel like I did something right. I’m the same way when the nuke drops, and I think it’ll be a long while before another game can match that feeling.
Hmm idk I think my anger is justified when you look at how the American people have had the wool pulled over their eyes and bent over a barrel for so long
Gonna be honest chief this sounds like a highly exaggerated retelling of your completely normal teen angst to sound more edgy and cool.
Same thing but HM actually gave me the little push I needed to grow some balls
@@VainSick I feel like nowadays everybody is encouraged to get chemically castrated if they feel any emotion like anger which leaves only the bad people to have that emotion
Ending the video with that Hotline Miami-esque Pixies cover was the perfect icing on the cake.
For anyone who finished the video
I really recommend the 1997 movie Funny Games by Michael Haneke which delve much deeper than Fight Club in our collective morbid enjoyment of Ultra-violence.
Especially when we are so detached from it as the media consumer.
An absolutely great video! It really grabbed my attention. The topics were discussed with genuine understanding, the comparison to Fight Club was clever, and you gave me another perspective on the franchise. Much respect to you and great work! Thank you for this video!
I’m so glad you liked it! Please share it around online, that helps a ton!
Bro dropped one of the best HLM content and thought we wouldn't notice.
I appreciate the support, thank you!
This was one of the best videos I have ever seen, the writing, the editing, the pacing, everything about this was perfect. The video changed my entire outlook on not only Hotline Miami as a whole, but also if the third game should even come out, since there is nothing to talk about. I hope your channel grows a lot more in the future, you deserve it.
That means a ton to hear, thank you so much. I just want to continue making content that resonates with people like this :)
Instantly subscribed, this was amazing! Looking forward to seeing you grow
That means a ton to hear, thank you so much! Please share the channel around online if you can to help it grow!
No problem! @@ShyCorn
This is probably the best video about HM2 that i've seen; you managed to do something that Jacob Geller admitted he could not. I've always been a massive fan of the message behind this game, without really knowing how to put it into words or even 100% "getting it" myself. the plot twist with the bad reviews at the end tied the analysis together really well in a way that I never would have thought of, and as a whole described how i felt about the game perfectly.
I played HM for the first time literally a bit after its release in 2012 in photoclass on an apple computer with a close friend of mine who introduced me to so much during and after HS. Hotline Miami revolutionized so much in its style and mechanics and story too.
Woah, insant sub. The effort and quality you put into this video is amazing and it feels so rewarding to find another person who recognises the intricacies of hotline Miami and the genius behind its narrative. I can't wait to see you as a regular youtuber in my feed!
Thank you so much! I’m definitely trying to post more regularly, so I look forward to seeing you in the comments!
Fantastic. I've often thought about the parallels between Fight Club and the Hotline series and you nailed exactly why. Awesome video. Liked and subscribed and looking forward to diving into more and whatever you focus on next.
This needs way more views! Extremely insightful and well-made vid
That means a ton, thank you! Please share it around online if you can :D
141k views in a month! Congrats!
Good shit man, lots of other people have sung this video's praises so I don't really have much to add other than you put forward something that is not only very thought provoking but also superbly edited. fantastic work!
I really appreciate you saying so! Thank you for watching!
Ayo. I knew that ending, but I didn't know where it was from.
Thanks for telling :D
The lil thing you did was awesome with the switch
You are one hell of a story-teller. Your knowledgeability of the text is impressive, and the theatricality of your presentation here is pitch perfect. The twist with the reviews left me floored (great use of Where Is My Mind!). Great work!
That means a ton, thank you so much :D
Man you did the video I've dreamed of making, really good!
Thank you so much! I’m really glad you liked it!
first time im interacting with hm related media other than a random lets play, you made me interested to check out the games myself. fantastic video dude
That’s great to hear! I hope you enjoy them!
The reviews being for fight club was rather clever
Cuddos to you, i look forward to seeing what else gou can produce in fhe future
i don't think it's the killing of the russian mobs that he carries out that made jacket puke on his first mission, i think it was the fact that he killed a homeless man not tied to anything he's having to go through at all, just someone in the wrong place at the wrong time and i think the fact that he starts running towards jacket as soon as he sees him further implies that it was completely done on self defense in jacket's part
I've come back to this essay a few times and it really knocks me on my ass every time. Its so well written and puts forth one of the strongest cases for game design as a vehicle for storytelling that I've seen. The ludonarrative harmony on display in these games is incredible and I'm enthralled by the dev's ability to tell such a potent anti-war story. Thanks so much for this essay, and I hope to see more interesting things from you!
Don’t tell anyone but I have a video in the final stages of editing right now that should be posted by the end of the month :D
Honestly I have seen like a fanart mockup of Fallout as Hotline Miami and yeah after what happened a full on post-apocalyptic Hotline Miami successor would be fun to see.
this is one of the best videos about the franchise, thank for this
Thank you for such a kind comment! I’m really happy to see this resonating with so many people.
You truly never miss with a video shyc0rn👍keep up the good work
Wow man amazing video about two of my favorite games of all time, thank you so very much ❤
I’m glad you liked the video! Thank you for watching!
what a well written piece! i thought i had finally understood hotline miami from a narrative perspective but this really changed my perspective. amazing job!
Amazing youtube video dude. I just found your channel and I seriously cant wait to keep watching you :)
I hope you enjoy my other videos too! Thank you for watching!
I love the way you think about things. You just got another sub. When I'm finished with this video I'm going to check your channel hoping to see a Disco Elysium video as well.
That means a lot to hear, thank you! I would love to cover Disco Elysium someday soon, it’s one of those things I’ve been putting off because I really want to get it right.
The music and editing style is just perfection good job man!
Thank you!
Immediately know what this is gonna be about and watching it anyway. Favorite game of my 30 years of playing vidya. Thanks for talking about this.
Hopefully I was able to include a surprise or two in my talking points for ya! Thanks for watching!
I couldn’t finish Hotline Miami 2 I’m ashamed to say. It’s question of “Do you like hurting other people?” Really stuck with me.
Bro you are you serious
The hurting people question is in the first game not the second. Going by that I really hope this is just a lie told for attention and not serious because if so, that's just kinda sad
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It ain't like red dead 2 bro, they are literally just pixels that turn red when you hit them
@@Subsandwich981 yeah, Hotline Miami (the 1st game atleast) is an incredibly surface level commentary on violence in video games. Genuinely don’t understand how people can take it’s message so seriously or feel any sort of guilt
Masterfully crafted vid, deserves to be archived so we don't lose this one, like a few others before it
Thank you! That means a lot!
@@ShyCorn no thank you for making it fr, very well done
Literally never comment on videos but this is one of the best video essays I've seen in a long time. You deserve many more subs!! Amazing work.
That means a lot, thank you!
I’m old enough to remember those fight club reviews 😂😂
Seriously tho, I’ve never even played this game and I was enthralled by the entire essay. Well done!
I’m really glad you liked it, thank you for watching!
Yes hotline miami video to start the year 2024 😍
I hope you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
MAN what a video loved it!!! Subscribed!
My friends always call me insane because RUN by iamthekidyouknowwhatiman is one of my favourite songs lmao
I’m glad you liked it! Thank you so much! I’ve almost always got songs from the Hotline Miami soundtrack playing in my daily rotation, I can’t blame ya!
that track makes you transcend reality
@@poymannyng1845facts man hey if you like Run listen to this variation of it
Good video mate, it kinda set my brain off to the highway of memories. I was one of those gamers, who wouldn't necessarily want a third game. For me the whole plot was a secondary distraction. I just really liked to HURT other people in the game.
I was stressed out as an young adult and piled up all my feelings. The two Hotline Miami games gave me a way to release most of those feelings out of my head. Same thing could be said about watching Fight Club during that time. If your mind dances around bad feelings constantly, you start rooting for the presented extremism and the whole "bastards got what they deserved" mentality. The whole Hotline Miami universe turning into dust with the nuke gave me thoughts of "yeah, me and the other bad dudes deserved it".
I watched the Fight Club again a year ago. No more rooting for the extremism and the violence. Just thoughts about the human psyche. So thankfully the older I got -- the more mellow I am as a person and my inner turmoil has somewhat settled down.
I should play the Hotline Miami games again now and really pay more attention to the story and the visual clues. Your video gave plenty of tools for that. I think the time is right after all these years.
amazing video man, i have shared so many of your thoughts on this matter for ages and seeing someone finally expressing them in such a great video essay is truly incredible. I have consumed so much of this franchise and really you and the underrated masterpiece video by Ovandal (I recommend it if you haven´t watched it) are the only ones that have made me look at the games in a different light.
Thank you! I’m super proud of how it came out, I’m really glad to see people liking it. I never realized quite how many people shared these thoughts either. I’ll have to check out the Ovandal video!
The moment you confessed to the reviews not being from the games, it felt like something in my brain popped in the best way. Phenomenal video from top to bottom, man.
I’m glad that resonated with so many people, thank you so much!
it was a Super Eyepatch Wolf level twist. I don't remember the exact video, but he did a very similar thing, and I was blown away both times
That’s a huge compliment, thank you!
its telling that you heart every comment except the ones challenging your opinion.
It says a lot about your maturity and willing to engage with differing viewpoints
I’ve interacted with quite a few folks who offer really well thought out constructive criticisms on either the writing, editing, or both. I’m always open to improving, I just choose not to let the conversation devolve into hostility with the less-than-constructive comments.
@@ShyCornthe faith/connotation/framing of critical comments tells u a lot about how it would end if u interacted, whether it comes from a place of care or not. and if the original commenter doesn’t care, why should you, yk? keep it up mane ❤.
ShyCorn I just want to say, this is one of the most impressive and underrated analysis I've seen of a game in a long time, keep up the good work. 😃
Thank you so much! I really appreciate all the feedback and support from everyone on this video. Please share it around online if you can, it would mean a lot!
@@ShyCorn I definitely will. This is truly a hidden gem.
This was a great analysis on the series! I haven't seen a lot of videos on the HM games, but I always felt 2 got a bad rep for its story when I found it to be just as brilliant as the first back in 2015. You put it so well on why it was the perfect follow-up and conclusion to the series. Nicely done!
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Phenomenal video essay, really nice work. HM2 ironically elevated the series to a work of art it seems a lot of people didn't initially see. This was a great added viewpoint on the series
Thank you! Please check out my newest video if you can :)
Finished this and said "this was great!" Well written, great analysis. Loved drawing the parallel to fight club. A fascinating distinction can be made between someone liking, or loving Fight club and Hotline Miami, and it being their FAVOURITE piece of media.
When someone likes it, I can think, 'okay, this person engaged with the media, and enjoyed the experience.'
When it's someone's favourite? I have to ask if they understood the point.
I really appreciate that, thank you!
This is one of the best hotline maimi content essays i have ever seen holy shit cant wait to show this to everyone
I’m really glad you think so! Thank you!
Maybe Dennaton took an inspiration from Valve by never making a third instalment of a video game series.
I loved your video thank you for showing people that there is more to these games than only fast paced shooters. I think that you covered the point of the story very well. And thank you for using some of my gameplay. I was happy and surprised to see it and I’m glad that you were able to show more people than I originally intended to show to. Overall this was a great video thank you for making it!
I’m really glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you so much!
@@ShyCorn Of course keep making awesome content!
This was such a good video you can really tell how much you care about the topic and I look forward to more of your content in future :D
That means a lot to hear, thank you! I just announced my next video on my community tab, go check it out if you get a chance!
noiceeeee
gud vid, i'd love a part 2!!
Thank you!
makes me think of how Dark Souls 3 was about how the fans and creators both need to move on and how clinging to dark souls would just lead to it becoming a husk of what it once was
and people still clamour for a dark souls 4
I'm also a long time fan of the movie, the book, and Chuck's writing in general. So I really enjoyed how you unexpectedly tied it all together with Fight Club in the end. Very thoughtful analysis. That synthwave cover version of _Where Is My Mind?_ over the credits is a really nice touch as well.
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I’m glad to see that part of the video was so well received, thank you! Please share it around online if you can!
Thank you for making this ❤
Thanks for watching! Check out my latest video if you haven’t already!
@@ShyCorn will do man! Subbed! ❤️
I remember when I first played HM1 shortly after it came out, it took me like a year to beat it, and I didn't really "get it"; I just liked the visuals and the gameplay. It's cool to find out all this time later that there actually was a deeper meaning to it, that was really expanded upon in the sequel; all I remember about the sequel coming out was the complaints about enemies shooting you from offscreen. Great video!
Thank you!
This was a damn masterpiece! 😭✋
Good on you! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
It's unexpected to see a HM3 video in 2024 but it's even more unexpected to hear about MA. I didn't realize its been almost 9 years since the original announcement. There were so many other successor mods to HM2 I remember from around then that met the same fate. Patriots, Bloodlife, Tokyo 2041, even Shibuya lol. It's fun to remember all the features these mods had, dynamic music and lighting, destructible environments, all the random super power-type effects Make Me Real had. It's easy to see how so many of these mods were just kids playing around making their dream game all "I wanna make Hotline Miami but its edgy and dark and Holland, 1945 plays" (replay The Document of Midnight Animal if only to hear the songs chosen) the entire modding scene for these games is cute in retrospect, especially seeing as how most of the more qualified developers have seen to move on from the series, after using it for a play space and testing ground (Spncryn and Pi0h coming to mind).
It was totally unexpected that there would still be such an audience for this video in 2024 as well. Thank you for watching!
This may be one of, if not *the*, best videos covering Hotline Miami series I have ever watched. To me, these colorful, gore-filled games weren't just about running about and killing "bad guys". Both of these games have blown me away (no pun intended) with their stories and characters who are so well and deeply written that it's just difficult to get pulled away. Someone once said that Hotline Miami games are incredibly violent anti-violence messages to the world, and I couldn't agree more.
I know that this is out of context, but I just want to say that the level Casualties has probably been the most impactful on me, especially with the accompanying song "The Way Home". It's probably very silly, but this track became very important to me, and I have very important memories tied to it, especially at a time like this.
But to wrap this up, I just want to say that this video served Hotline Miami justice. Everything said, shown, and explained was presented in a manner that cannot be topped. Thank you so much for this video.
Let's hope that all the violence in the world, especially the nonsense one, will eventually seize to exist.
Thank you! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
incredible video, the twist with the reviews was brilliant
One of my favorite indie series of all time. I would love a third, even if the second game kind of did everything it needed to.
I loved the characters, the talking animals, all of the hallucinations, and of course the story. Genuine masterpiece, and I'm really sad I won't see it again.
I still love the detective's story. "The killer always returns to the scene of the crime". Such a great scene. I could go on and on about the games, but I suppose I'll just have to settle for what we've been given.
Excellent video. Excited to see what you do after!
It’s such a special series to me, I can’t say I’ve played anything quite like it. Thank you for watching!
I see what you did there with the song at the end. Well done lol
Thank you! I’m glad you stuck around to the end to hear it :D
Great analysis it reminded me of the now deleted video Hotline Miami makes sense of senseless violence
Thank you! I don’t believe I’ve seen that one, which channel was it from?
@@ShyCorn I don’t remember
Great video my man!! Your gameplay makes me wanna scream.
gorgeous video essay, dude.
I just got reminded of Midnight Animal thanks to this video.
I was just following the updates and weren't even aware of the community backlash.
Honestly really loved the direction the game went, no matter how much it stray from hotline miami.
So one day finding out that the whole project was scrapped was a complete surprise to me, and only through this video did i realize the reason why.