I started flying 12 years or so ago on a Phoenix simulator. I bought a align 450 and started flying. I sold everything 9 years ago and began traveling for work. The traveling is over now and I really want to start flying again. This M2 looks very interesting and I may just have to get one. Thanks for the video. You just got a new subscriber.
Excellent review and very objective. I just went with the 230S for a lot of the reasons you mentioned, I'm 61 and it's my first heli. I struggle with orientation on even fixed wing, so the 230's size is a benefit. I also have lots of other Horizon stuff. The M2 is definitely the more modern performance aircraft. OMP does nice work, I was very impressed with the Bighorn plane I bought from them.
Thank you! Nothing wrong with the 230 whatsoever. It is a great helicopter for the people who like the bigger size and who are just they are to fly around. If you’re never going to be a 3-D helicopter pilot or care about the precision in the performance the 230 is definitely the machine for you. Do I personally think it’s outdated old and needs a major update yes! But it’s still a good heli! You will enjoy the 230! Check back and let me know how you like it and how your doing. Use some bright vinyl on the tail boom and tail skid as it will help you with orientation big time!
You’re welcome! Just a honest review on both helis. They are both good for what you like. Everyone likes something different and we have so many options! Thanks for watching!
Love your End comments WestHobbiesRC. In the Photography world, the Moto is : "The Best Camera is the Camera you already have'. I don't own the M2, but do own the 230s.but after having endless trouble with the 230s Self levelling mode, and hence many unwanted Crashes, i believed it was a piece of crap. then i decided to delete the "Normal" mode (vis Digital Swtch option), and use it strictly as a FM1-2 Trainer only. I'm glad I kept it as such! now, after repeated trial flights with my smaller Nano S3 and 150s, I have complete confidence flying the 230s without any Normal mode to rely on. It also crashes well. Appreciate your Videos / advice WestHobbiesRC. PS: i have bought myself a Blade 360 3s Fusion, and SAB 420 Raw DD for Future step ups, when I can fly the 230s in most essential orientations
Thank you very much! When I started the channel I only had a GoPro hero 4. I’ve since upgraded lol but I still want to get a different camera to make higher quality videos. The blade 230s was a great heli for its time. Still not bad but the M2 or S2 is night and day better in a lot of ways. If OMP or Goosky would release a 300 size (same size as the 230) it would take over. The flight performance and FBL performance of the M2/S2 is incredible. You will love the RAW 420! Perfect every day size heli! The Blade 360 is the BEST BNF heli Blade has ever made. My only two complaint is the power level and servo gear sets are weak and will strip in a crash but I think for a next step heli it’s perfect!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Appreciate your Reply! My Videos are taken on an old Sony DSC-QX10 which Sony made to fit onto cell phones in that time period before cell phones had good cameras built in. I have the OMP M1, but I've invested too much in Blade Heli's (S3, BL2, 150s, 180 Infusion, 230s, 360 Fusion), so i can't see myself getting the M2, and so I'm not sure my type of Flying style would get any better with an M2. I wish Blade would bring out a Direst Drive version of the 230s. I have to confess, that there are times when I "Freeze at the Controls" when learning certain manoeuvres - is this normal? ( I can do Inverted Hovers / circuits no problem with the Nano S3, but with the 150s and 230s, well that's another mindset matter ! )
From 200 subscribers to 3.5k in a year good job. You should have way more though. You put out some really helpful content and ive learned a ton from you're vids. Man that m2 exploded. Lol. I have the same color explore but upgraded it to all metal head. Mainly for looks I dont think plastic is terrible.
Thank you! Crazy to think it’s only been a year! It’s a lot of work to do three videos a week! I appreciate the support and watching every video! This M2 exp is now in the MicroHeli scale fuse with the 4 bladed head but I rebuilt it after this crash and flew it for a year with over 150 more flights. The plastic is great for crashing but definitely better to upgrade to the metal head.
I am so overjoyed I ended up getting an OMP after starting with 230s and nano s3.....should've started with the omp. Quality as I can tell top notch. The evo series.
Thanks for your reply on the other video you made. I can tell by this video the OMP is superior to the Blade 230s. It just looks more stable. Unfortunately for me I fly VTouch and I can't use the OMP without receiver mods so I went Logo 200. I think the OMP and Logo are taking the market, especially with the Logo having a Neo on board
Awesome! Logo 200 is made by OMP, they are the same just the logo has the NEO and M2 has there protocol/DSMX/futaba. You will be very happy with the logo 200! Thanks for watching!
Whatever happened at 3:08 has also happened with my 230s V2 twice. I think sometimes when level and spinning fast around the tail axis the FBL has a problem figuring out the real position. That also always causes the spin like in your video for about a second. It flys fine afterwards. Also mine also has that bobble sound in the tail motor, but flies just fine. I don't mind it anymore at all.
Not quite sure, I started to piro and the tail motor just shut itself off completely. I hit throttle hold to take torque off the tail and I flipped hold back off and it was fine for the rest of the flight. Never had that happen before. It does fly good but in comparison to the M2 it does not fly as good at all.
Mine usually explode because of something I did. 🥴 So I’ve had a few SR’s which I never really knew how to set up correctly but I love that size and would really like to fly them. I think I have a brand new 230S that I’ve never flown much because it went apecrap on me the first time I spooled it up. Maybe something set wrong on my transmitter. I seem to do better with the more subdued 120’s but with the new S2 flybarless version. I’ve been thinking about a M2 also. I bought some off brand K110 that seems to require a Futaba system which I don’t own. Not sure what to do there. Futaba has more radio versions than I have socks! LOL! Enjoyed the video as always!
It always sucks crashing in the helicopter lol I had a couple blade SR as well. I sure don’t miss those things! Lol you will love the OMP into! Such an incredible helicopter flight performance instability is unmatched to anything else. I highly recommend you get one! That or the M1 both really great helis! Flying will improve big time with a M2!
I don’t own or have never owned a KX 110 so I’m not sure what they take or do I don’t know if you can plug-in a DSMX satellite? Depending on what radio you have currently you could always look at the TX 16 S which will do all different protocols so that is an option. Thanks for always watching! Greatly appreciate it!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks for the great advice! I think the little KX 110 is a cheap RTF. It’s a cool looking little bird but that doesn’t mean anything. So on the M2 is that how I would fly it with my DX-8 is with a DSMX satellite? I think you mentioned it once before but I wasn’t sure which one to use.
@@robstanton9215 yes so with the M2 you just need a DSMX satellite, if you get one with a bind button that they sell on buddyRC then you don’t need a separate receiver to bind it to your radio. Just plug the satellite into the OMPFPL find it to your DX8 and you’re good to go! I can share my spektrum radio setup if that helps or you need it. You will really enjoy the M2!
If you don’t already own the M2 you should! Honestly I firmly believe every person that is in the RC helicopter should have one. Hands-down best small helicopter ever made.
Hey man what’s up, I need a little help if you don’t mind. I’ve been in the hobby for a while, mostly planes though. I used to mess around with helis but haven’t in a while, I want to start with them again. I used to be able to hover and fly about a nano cpx but haven’t in a while. What heli would you recommend? Thanks a lot, love your videos man :)
Awesome! Thanks for watching! I would personally say the OMP Hobby M2, it’s a fantastic heli and can grow with you. Anything from learning to crazy smack 3D it will do it all. Build quality is incredible and parts are cheap! Will bind to a wide range of radios.
I heard some rumor about an M4 coming, but no clue if that is true or when that would happen. I personally assume they can barely make enough M1 and M2s to satisfy demand they are not in a rush to get more out of them.
I will get a M2 next. I have the Eflite 150s and 230s. The 150s is great with carbon frames and has lots of power. The 230s much cheaper frame, plastic, less power and not as smooth as 150s.
You will love the M2! I have not had a 150 in a long time so I forgot how they fly but hopefully soon I’ll hav the new smart 150 and 180 to do some testing on! I just did a full MicroHeli 230 build and it’s incredible! Love it!
Jeff, have you had the chance to fly the Logo 200? Do you have any impressions of it vs the M2? I know they're mostly the same but curious about the FC differences. Thanks!
Looking for a transmitter that I can use for sim and a future heli possibly m2 evo. I like the radio master only because I also wanna try fpv in the future, would be nice to have all my models in one transmitter. How do you like radio master compared to spektrum?
The radiomaster is not a bad radio for the price. The radiomaster just has a cheap feel to it. Compared to spektrum, I’ll take my spektrum all day over radiomaster. Now the Frsky X20S is a great radio as well. Built Quality is outstanding it feels solid.
I use both of these for my daily flyers on a jumper radio..with my rates they both fly just as good as each other..but the m2 is way more quality and can out perform on higher rates by a mile..don't trust theplastic blade grip set up on the explorer. ..your not the first that's happend too..way too much power and speed for plastic... Had to switch the 230 to all metal for links and swash..it would break them off..and they go down fast ..as hard as we push these things..I feel better being all metal..plus the m2 don't break the metal grips..you fly awesome man .I hope one day to get .to where people want to watch..and starting a crowd in my neighborhood..they love to watch
In my opinion the M2 out performs the 230s in every way. The 230 is a good heli and for its time it was great but compared to the M2 can’t even stay in the same park. I’ve never ad a problem with the plastic grips in 223 flights, I did tighten the blade right before they failed so I’m going to say I over tighten them. I think a lot of the blade grip failures are from over tighten but I could be wrong! Thanks man I appreciate it, keep flying and you will!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 well that's bigger yet man that thing should ripp along with that m2 ..I got the 270 motor in a box I was gonna put on...I bought ....cool..I like the sound of 230 banging some hard pitch . Lol 😂 pry why my head broke and almost killed my buddy
Yes that is normal for me. As you progress and get better you will start crashing less and less. I hardly ever crash anymore but of course it still happens!
By going into the special functions menu on the TX 16 S and overriding channel 5. I have a video from a few months back I explain how to achieve the rescue with the TX 16 S
Awesome video my friend!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 I love my M2 Explore 😊 What are your thoughts about the Blade 330 S helicopter? Thumbs-up for your video! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾Have a great Bew Year day! Greetings from Ponce, Puerto Rico 🌴 🏊🏾♂️ 🍺 🎅🏾 🇵🇷 Like#141
Thank you for watching! The M2 is hands-down the best little helicopter ever made! I think every pilot should have one in their fleet! It’s not a bad helicopter, I think it’s very old and outdated. The Align Trex 470 LM is 100 times the helicopter but you have to build it. I would’ve said the fusion 360 but they made it 3s so it doesn’t have the power used to.
Wondering if someone can help me... Im a complete newdy with rc helicopters and not sure what heli would be best.. I have flown rc planes as a teen and i drive rc cars now (bashing) I would prefer a larger scale heli that can be used outdoors and in some wind. The 1 heli i have found in my budget is the 230s v2.. but i have just found out about this heli now. Are there any other helis i should also look at? I defo want 3d capabilities.
Welcome to helis! Best part of the hobby! Lol so the 230s is a good model but outdated! Get a Goosky S2 or OMP M2 EVO, great prices. Cheap replacement parts! Check out HeliDirect.com for all your heli parts needs. I’ve got videos on both and how to setup and everything.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thank you for the reply! After doing some quick research im looking at the omp m2 purely due to availability as i live in australia. As its a bnf model.. what is a good cheaper transmitter and receiver?
@@MrDngrsdave the M2 EVO is the newest M2 lineup. Much better tail performance and little bigger then the M2 V2/EXP. so personally I’m going to say get a spektrum radio. Main reason is they are the easiest radio on the market to program! You will need at least a 6 channel, NX6 is a fantastic radio and a great price. But I always tell people by at least an eight channel because if you stay in Mojave you will outgrow it really quickly. In the beginning of course you do not need more than six channels but depending on what your plan and goals are scale helicopters or what not you owe me more. Plus getting bigger models and different FBL units you can do a lot more with a 8ch over a 6ch. You will need a DSMX satellite like the Kensun as it has a bind button. You can get a TX16S or I would recommend a Frsky X20S but they can be harder to program.
No stock 230 will blow the tail no matter your gains depending on how hard you are with the pitch. With the 300X motor that 636 had no chance. Put a Brain 2 FBL and no more tail blow out and way more power and pitch as well as a 3 blade head now. The 636 is a crappy FBL.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Is it just me or has the quality of Blade's helis gone down since horizon hobby was acquired? The only heli I had from them back in the good ole days was the scout CX so I can't speak much for their older collective pitch helis, but it just seems like their quality was a lot higher back when horizon hobby was still an independent company.
@@ambrosekillpack4841 they have always been the same company, they never changed companies. Eflite all of that was always horizon hobbies. Like anything quality control goes down Paul’s get me cheaper. My only real complaint is I wish they would use more metal as well as a better FPL unit. If you haven’t checked out the videos go back and look at what I did with the 230! It’s a beast now!
@@seancushway6959 you can’t beat the M2! Anther great one is the Goosky S2! It’s a brand new release if you want to check those videos out on my channel.
Hey bro, i need some help if you can...ive got the 480 built and im installing the electronics and it comes with the smart esc or whatever and it has two wires coming out of it and i cant find any info on which one to hook up to the flight controller...could you look at it online and see if its something that you can help me with?...i know its petty but i can get everything else programed and stuff but i just dont know what to do with these two bitch ass wires...LOL
Yeah man not a problem! One is going to be your throttle signal and the other one should be telemetry data but I will look it up and double check and get back to you!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 ...Thanks bro!!!...i contacted "coeshow619" or whoever and another person and basically the wire that is wrapped around the magnet is the one that goes to the esc and the other is for other stuff that doesnt affect getting it up in the air but i would still like your feed back if thats cool...the more heads you have working on something then the more you will learn or succeed so thanks for taking the time to help me out
@@hoofarted8709 so from what I can tell the one that has the magnet looking thing wrapped around it is going to be your main throttle line. The other one looks like power and ground so I’m going to assume that is what feeds the fan? And the third wire is signal and ground so that will be the smart technology part that gives you everything to your radio. Hope that helps!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks for looking into it for me bro...so you are right about the wire with the magnetic donut, its throttle and the other wire that splits at the end is for "high speed" servos or servos that need more power or something like that but all i know is its not needed for me right now so its normally zip tied up out of the way...NOW, ive got to do all this programing stuff and im lost in the sauce but i can contact a heli builder at graves rc later this morning to get the rest competed...at least i got it all mechanically built, electronics installed and both recievers are bound and my motor is spinning in the right direction but i cant hook up servos yet because i cant figure out how to set the "frequency" and stuff so that they will work right...i should be up in the air later today though...thanks again for your help!!!
@@hoofarted8709 ah yes that makes sense! The Servo that need more power get more more from that wire, yes you need to setup the servo frequency before ever plugging in any servos so you don’t burn them up. I’m assuming you’re using the 6250? Graves RC is the best hobby shop! Love that place! You’re welcome, hope it was any help.
Dude, your biases are showing. Not cool! First and hopefully obvious question... Why aren't you comparing the current versions of each model? The Blade 230s V2 was replaced with the 230s SMART a few years ago. You can't even get the 230s V2 anymore as it has been discontinued! The M2 Explore is still around, but don't you think it would be better and more interesting to compare the M2 V2? Second, you replaced the motor and blades on the OMP and consider this to be a fair comparison? You don't think changing out the two most important parts of your heli and tweaking the settings to perform a certain way isn't going to have a substantial effect on flight characteristics? You also said that the 130s was bone stock. Then why are there Align blades on it? That's not bone stock dude. Oh, did you also mention that the OMP M2 Explore also costs roughly $100 MORE than the 230s SMART? The M2 V2 is pushing $200 MORE than the 130s. Oh you didn't? Shame on you... I can currently get the Blade 230s SMART all day long via Horizon Hobbies for $250. The OMPhobby M2 Explore is $340 via Amazon. Same for the M2 V2 which is currently running $420. I would certainly HOPE that for the difference in cost that the OMP comes with better components and would fly/perform better there chief (And that's not even counting the cost of your "upgrades" either). This is for the BNF versions of both helis BTW. Maybe a better question to ask is "Which model offers better bang for the buck?" In other words, does the OMP M2 fly $100 better than the 130s SMART? Based on this video and several others doing reviews of this model, the Blade 130 SMART, and the Eachines E180, I'm not seeing enough to convince me that the OMP is that much superior to the rest. Then there's other questions like what about parts and availability? Compatibility with aftermarket radios? How hard are either to fix? How about hop-ups and Upgrades? Etc, etc, etc... Yes, I agree that in THIS particular video the OMP is better in a hover and has better tail authority than the Blade. That actually is impressive as motorized tails are (or at least were) notorious for tail wag and not keeping up with inputs to the main motor. One of the reasons I have stuck to belt or shaft driven tails over the years. My 10 + y.o. very old school Blade 400 3D can actually hold a pretty tight hover too when set up correctly. Then again tuning and set up is EVERYTHING when it comes to getting these helis to fly well regardless of manufacturer. Before you say anything, no I'm not biased towards eFlite or Blade.. or OMP or Eachine for that matter. What I want is an HONEST video comparing apples with apples, not this playing games of swapped parts and flying at least one obsolete model. Then there is the language you're using... "My grandpa learned to fly on a 230s..." vs. "In my opinion the best micro-helicopter ever made". Laying it on a bit thick, don't you think? Geez... Seriously, it does raise a few other questions of what you might not be telling us. As it is I am currently market for a new heli in the 200 - 300 size range. Unfortunately videos like this really don't help very much and kind of killed any enthusiasm I might have had for the OMP.
Biases are showing? Well here is an opinion from someone that doesn’t make videos or do helicopter comparisons. Out of all the micro helis out there, OMP has the best of the best and that’s why every other manufacturer is now copying the small direct drive, motor driven tail helis. As far as parts, you can get all the parts you need for a M2, given they are in stock since our country is ran by idiots. And if you have a 10 year old heli, it shouldn’t be hard for you to know what’s good and not if you have been in the game so long.
This video has helped hundreds of people make the decision regardless if they wanted to go with the M2 or the 230.Unfortunately I cannot make videos to please everyone, I am probably the least biased person on CZcams in the game. I never push anyone or bash any brand other than giving my personal experience and opinion. Again as I’ve said in multiple videos if you watch my channel. I am not paid sponsored nothing everything you see on the videos are helicopters that I own. As far as comparing “old outdated” models. Well let’s see, The OMP hobby M2 V2 and M2 EXP are the exact same helicopter in regards to electronic frame design power system. The difference is? The V2 has a metal head color matched motors and metal cased servos. Hence the cheaper EXP. White performance wise they are identical! Now let’s compare the outdated V2 to 230 to the smart. What’s the difference? Let’s see, nothing other than battery telemetry and in my opinion a worst FBL than they already had. It’s the same design helicopter that’s been around since the blade SR days over 10 years ago. Now as far as the M2 having “bigger blade and bigger motor” that is untrue. If you watch and listen in the video you were talking about the 230. The M2 is bone stock! Now the 230s? Yes bigger motor and better carbon blades. Now why is that? Well let’s say like I’ve stated in other videos that it lacks serious power and blade flex is insane. So now let’s talk about prices, number one I do not talk about or mention prices and videos on products. For the fact of prices change every day again everything comes out of my pocket. Yes the V2 and XP is more money than the 230. But what are you getting for your money? A hell of a lot better helicopter in every sense. Why? Well let’s see a 230 S is $250 as you stated. But it is in a complete plastic helicopter. There is insane amounts of frame flex it is super weak and crashes tell authority is terrible. It is great for what it was years ago it is outdated even the smart. Can you upgrade it? Of course you can! But how much money are you going to spend to try to make it fly somewhat decent? More than you’re going to spend buying three OMP M2s. So is the M2 more expensive? Yes! But if you get a way better machine, but of course it all depends like I stated in my video what you are doing. If you are like my grandfather who is a normal flyer like the putt putt around and all you wanna do is figure eights 230 is perfect for you. But if you want a 3-D helicopter that will grow with you the M2 is for you. I am probably the only channel on CZcams that reply to every single comment. I replied to every email I spent hours helping people that I don’t have to! So is the M2 more expensive? Yes! But if you get a way better machine, but of course it all depends like I stated in my video what you are doing. If you are like my grandfather who is a normal flyer like the putt putt around and all you wanna do is figure eights 230 is perfect for you. But if you want a 3-D helicopter that will grow with you the M2 is for you. I am probably the only channel on CZcams that reply to every single comment. I replied to every email I spent hours helping people that I don’t have to! Just like replying to you, Could’ve just deleted your comment like every other person does I can lie in every video I could tell you that the M2 is the only helicopter you should ever buy I could never post crashes or mistakes. But I have an honest channel! And I hope every person that needs it. So being biased? Yeah definitely not. So again I will tell you like I tell everyone, and you buy whatever helicopter you like. I don’t personally care if you like Echine as the best brand in the world cool as long as people are flying helicopters that’s all that matters. So if this video didn’t help you make up your mind there is a bunch of other ones that will and if they don’t then do your own research. Learn the different models and learn what the differences are before just jumping and saying things like you have today.
I started flying 12 years or so ago on a Phoenix simulator. I bought a align 450 and started flying. I sold everything 9 years ago and began traveling for work. The traveling is over now and I really want to start flying again. This M2 looks very interesting and I may just have to get one. Thanks for the video. You just got a new subscriber.
Excellent review and very objective. I just went with the 230S for a lot of the reasons you mentioned, I'm 61 and it's my first heli. I struggle with orientation on even fixed wing, so the 230's size is a benefit. I also have lots of other Horizon stuff. The M2 is definitely the more modern performance aircraft. OMP does nice work, I was very impressed with the Bighorn plane I bought from them.
Thank you! Nothing wrong with the 230 whatsoever. It is a great helicopter for the people who like the bigger size and who are just they are to fly around. If you’re never going to be a 3-D helicopter pilot or care about the precision in the performance the 230 is definitely the machine for you. Do I personally think it’s outdated old and needs a major update yes! But it’s still a good heli! You will enjoy the 230! Check back and let me know how you like it and how your doing. Use some bright vinyl on the tail boom and tail skid as it will help you with orientation big time!
Thanks for the OTX file my friend. Was able to setup my bro’s blade 150’s and I tamed it for him a little so he can practice.
Awesome I am glad to hear that!
Thanks for sharing this video review.
Great video information and your thoughts on both Heli.
You’re welcome! Just a honest review on both helis. They are both good for what you like. Everyone likes something different and we have so many options! Thanks for watching!
Love your End comments WestHobbiesRC. In the Photography world, the Moto is : "The Best Camera is the Camera you already have'. I don't own the M2, but do own the 230s.but after having endless trouble with the 230s Self levelling mode, and hence many unwanted Crashes, i believed it was a piece of crap. then i decided to delete the "Normal" mode (vis Digital Swtch option), and use it strictly as a FM1-2 Trainer only. I'm glad I kept it as such! now, after repeated trial flights with my smaller Nano S3 and 150s, I have complete confidence flying the 230s without any Normal mode to rely on. It also crashes well. Appreciate your Videos / advice WestHobbiesRC. PS: i have bought myself a Blade 360 3s Fusion, and SAB 420 Raw DD for Future step ups, when I can fly the 230s in most essential orientations
Thank you very much! When I started the channel I only had a GoPro hero 4. I’ve since upgraded lol but I still want to get a different camera to make higher quality videos. The blade 230s was a great heli for its time. Still not bad but the M2 or S2 is night and day better in a lot of ways. If OMP or Goosky would release a 300 size (same size as the 230) it would take over. The flight performance and FBL performance of the M2/S2 is incredible. You will love the RAW 420! Perfect every day size heli! The Blade 360 is the BEST BNF heli Blade has ever made. My only two complaint is the power level and servo gear sets are weak and will strip in a crash but I think for a next step heli it’s perfect!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Appreciate your Reply! My Videos are taken on an old Sony DSC-QX10 which Sony made to fit onto cell phones in that time period before cell phones had good cameras built in. I have the OMP M1, but I've invested too much in Blade Heli's (S3, BL2, 150s, 180 Infusion, 230s, 360 Fusion), so i can't see myself getting the M2, and so I'm not sure my type of Flying style would get any better with an M2. I wish Blade would bring out a Direst Drive version of the 230s. I have to confess, that there are times when I "Freeze at the Controls" when learning certain manoeuvres - is this normal? ( I can do Inverted Hovers / circuits no problem with the Nano S3, but with the 150s and 230s, well that's another mindset matter ! )
Good review. I got the M1 and may get the M2 as well!
I’ve got two M2s and a M1 if you have the M1 you need the M2! I honestly like the M2 more. But love my M1 as well!
From 200 subscribers to 3.5k in a year good job. You should have way more though. You put out some really helpful content and ive learned a ton from you're vids. Man that m2 exploded. Lol. I have the same color explore but upgraded it to all metal head. Mainly for looks I dont think plastic is terrible.
Thank you! Crazy to think it’s only been a year! It’s a lot of work to do three videos a week! I appreciate the support and watching every video! This M2 exp is now in the MicroHeli scale fuse with the 4 bladed head but I rebuilt it after this crash and flew it for a year with over 150 more flights. The plastic is great for crashing but definitely better to upgrade to the metal head.
I am so overjoyed I ended up getting an OMP after starting with 230s and nano s3.....should've started with the omp. Quality as I can tell top notch. The evo series.
OMP makes a great model, you can check out the goosky S2 as well. That’s my favorite between the two. The 230s was great in its day.
❤thank you
Good watch! I had both but sold the Blade 230s.
The Blade 230s is a good heli, thought a ton to fly but the M2 is by far better!
Thanks for your reply on the other video you made. I can tell by this video the OMP is superior to the Blade 230s. It just looks more stable. Unfortunately for me I fly VTouch and I can't use the OMP without receiver mods so I went Logo 200. I think the OMP and Logo are taking the market, especially with the Logo having a Neo on board
Awesome! Logo 200 is made by OMP, they are the same just the logo has the NEO and M2 has there protocol/DSMX/futaba. You will be very happy with the logo 200! Thanks for watching!
Whatever happened at 3:08 has also happened with my 230s V2 twice. I think sometimes when level and spinning fast around the tail axis the FBL has a problem figuring out the real position.
That also always causes the spin like in your video for about a second. It flys fine afterwards.
Also mine also has that bobble sound in the tail motor, but flies just fine. I don't mind it anymore at all.
Not quite sure, I started to piro and the tail motor just shut itself off completely. I hit throttle hold to take torque off the tail and I flipped hold back off and it was fine for the rest of the flight. Never had that happen before. It does fly good but in comparison to the M2 it does not fly as good at all.
I fligth a omphobby m1, m2, blade nanos3 and a eachine e160. Rc Helikopter is the best and coolest hobby on the World. I lovit😍🥰
That’s a great collection of helis! I agree! RC helis are the best thing!
Mine usually explode because of something I did. 🥴
So I’ve had a few SR’s which I never really knew how to set up correctly but I love that size and would really like to fly them. I think I have a brand new 230S that I’ve never flown much because it went apecrap on me the first time I spooled it up. Maybe something set wrong on my transmitter. I seem to do better with the more subdued 120’s but with the new S2 flybarless version. I’ve been thinking about a M2 also. I bought some off brand K110 that seems to require a Futaba system which I don’t own. Not sure what to do there. Futaba has more radio versions than I have socks! LOL! Enjoyed the video as always!
It always sucks crashing in the helicopter lol I had a couple blade SR as well. I sure don’t miss those things! Lol you will love the OMP into! Such an incredible helicopter flight performance instability is unmatched to anything else. I highly recommend you get one! That or the M1 both really great helis! Flying will improve big time with a M2!
I don’t own or have never owned a KX 110 so I’m not sure what they take or do I don’t know if you can plug-in a DSMX satellite? Depending on what radio you have currently you could always look at the TX 16 S which will do all different protocols so that is an option. Thanks for always watching! Greatly appreciate it!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks for the great advice! I think the little KX 110 is a cheap RTF. It’s a cool looking little bird but that doesn’t mean anything. So on the M2 is that how I would fly it with my DX-8 is with a DSMX satellite? I think you mentioned it once before but I wasn’t sure which one to use.
@@robstanton9215 yes so with the M2 you just need a DSMX satellite, if you get one with a bind button that they sell on buddyRC then you don’t need a separate receiver to bind it to your radio. Just plug the satellite into the OMPFPL find it to your DX8 and you’re good to go! I can share my spektrum radio setup if that helps or you need it. You will really enjoy the M2!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks!!! I appreciate the help!!!
The omp,s are superb helis, my goto heli
Yes they are! You can’t beat the OMP!
thanks for the vid. i have a m1 and a trex470lt. maybe i need a m2 too 😅
Definitely need a M2 or S2! Great little helis!
Where you show the settings for it
I must get an M2, they just seem amazing for what they are.
If you don’t already own the M2 you should! Honestly I firmly believe every person that is in the RC helicopter should have one. Hands-down best small helicopter ever made.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 After watching a few more vids I went and ordered one today. haha. Couldnt help myself!!
@@JohnVHRC heck yeah! I just subbed to your channel! Can’t wait to see some videos!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 appreciate it! Let’s hope they aren’t crash vids. 😂
The 230s rtf kit is great for someone that knows nothing about helicopters, with safe you can be straight out and hovering.
Hey man what’s up, I need a little help if you don’t mind. I’ve been in the hobby for a while, mostly planes though. I used to mess around with helis but haven’t in a while, I want to start with them again. I used to be able to hover and fly about a nano cpx but haven’t in a while. What heli would you recommend? Thanks a lot, love your videos man :)
Awesome! Thanks for watching! I would personally say the OMP Hobby M2, it’s a fantastic heli and can grow with you. Anything from learning to crazy smack 3D it will do it all. Build quality is incredible and parts are cheap! Will bind to a wide range of radios.
Amazing little helicopter. Wonder if omp will come out with a 380 version.
I heard some rumor about an M4 coming, but no clue if that is true or when that would happen. I personally assume they can barely make enough M1 and M2s to satisfy demand they are not in a rush to get more out of them.
They did announce a M5 in the works and coming really soon! I personally cannot wait for that!
He did announce at a Heli event a few weeks back and M5 coming next! Can’t wait!
I will get a M2 next. I have the Eflite 150s and 230s. The 150s is great with carbon frames and has lots of power. The 230s much cheaper frame, plastic, less power and not as smooth as 150s.
You will love the M2! I have not had a 150 in a long time so I forgot how they fly but hopefully soon I’ll hav the new smart 150 and 180 to do some testing on! I just did a full MicroHeli 230 build and it’s incredible! Love it!
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I love the blade Helicopter, but is to hard for setting with other brands radios transmitter like radio master. You can fly but is hard for setting...
The radio setup will be the same on all models with the Radiomaster pretty much. Spektrum radios are definitely the easiest to setup.
Was that your radio making that waring sound before you hit hold or a video edit?
I don’t hear any wiring sound? Only thing I hear is the gear train spooling down when I hit hold.
Jeff, have you had the chance to fly the Logo 200? Do you have any impressions of it vs the M2? I know they're mostly the same but curious about the FC differences. Thanks!
yes I have, the Logo 200 is made by OMP so it’s just a different FBL. they fly pretty much the same.
Looking for a transmitter that I can use for sim and a future heli possibly m2 evo. I like the radio master only because I also wanna try fpv in the future, would be nice to have all my models in one transmitter. How do you like radio master compared to spektrum?
The radiomaster is not a bad radio for the price. The radiomaster just has a cheap feel to it. Compared to spektrum, I’ll take my spektrum all day over radiomaster. Now the Frsky X20S is a great radio as well. Built Quality is outstanding it feels solid.
How do you think the Goosky Legend S2 compares to the OMP M2
The S2 beats it hands down. Better tail performance, better motor power, more servo power and FBL flight performance is incredible.
I use both of these for my daily flyers on a jumper radio..with my rates they both fly just as good as each other..but the m2 is way more quality and can out perform on higher rates by a mile..don't trust theplastic blade grip set up on the explorer. ..your not the first that's happend too..way too much power and speed for plastic...
Had to switch the 230 to all metal for links and swash..it would break them off..and they go down fast ..as hard as we push these things..I feel better being all metal..plus the m2 don't break the metal grips..you fly awesome man .I hope one day to get .to where people want to watch..and starting a crowd in my neighborhood..they love to watch
In my opinion the M2 out performs the 230s in every way. The 230 is a good heli and for its time it was great but compared to the M2 can’t even stay in the same park. I’ve never ad a problem with the plastic grips in 223 flights, I did tighten the blade right before they failed so I’m going to say I over tighten them. I think a lot of the blade grip failures are from over tighten but I could be wrong! Thanks man I appreciate it, keep flying and you will!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I let mine free swing .
@@westhobbiesrc8051 is your 230 oxy 3? Got 270 motor on board?
Is my 238 OXY 3? No it is a stock 230 exception of Blade 300x motor
@@westhobbiesrc8051 well that's bigger yet man that thing should ripp along with that m2 ..I got the 270 motor in a box I was gonna put on...I bought ....cool..I like the sound of 230 banging some hard pitch . Lol 😂 pry why my head broke and almost killed my buddy
At least the Blade 230s didn't explode in mid-flight :p
Could only hope lol
Over 200 flights without a crash! Holy Moly, I'm happy if I get 20 doing (very light) sport flying.. I guess I better keep practicing. LOL
Yes that is normal for me. As you progress and get better you will start crashing less and less. I hardly ever crash anymore but of course it still happens!
May I ask how you achieved rescue feature on the OMP?
By going into the special functions menu on the TX 16 S and overriding channel 5. I have a video from a few months back I explain how to achieve the rescue with the TX 16 S
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thank you very much
@@house108able you’re welcome!
Would you share setup files for both?
Yes of course! Send me an email and I will send the files to you. Choppers992@hotmail.com
What is the conclusion on the comparison my friend
Really up to you but my opinion is the M2 all day.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 👍❤
Awesome video my friend!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 I love my M2 Explore 😊 What are your thoughts about the Blade 330 S helicopter?
Thumbs-up for your video! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾Have a great Bew Year day! Greetings from Ponce, Puerto Rico 🌴 🏊🏾♂️ 🍺 🎅🏾 🇵🇷
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Thank you for watching! The M2 is hands-down the best little helicopter ever made! I think every pilot should have one in their fleet! It’s not a bad helicopter, I think it’s very old and outdated. The Align Trex 470 LM is 100 times the helicopter but you have to build it. I would’ve said the fusion 360 but they made it 3s so it doesn’t have the power used to.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks for your response 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Wondering if someone can help me...
Im a complete newdy with rc helicopters and not sure what heli would be best..
I have flown rc planes as a teen and i drive rc cars now (bashing)
I would prefer a larger scale heli that can be used outdoors and in some wind. The 1 heli i have found in my budget is the 230s v2.. but i have just found out about this heli now.
Are there any other helis i should also look at? I defo want 3d capabilities.
Welcome to helis! Best part of the hobby! Lol so the 230s is a good model but outdated! Get a Goosky S2 or OMP M2 EVO, great prices. Cheap replacement parts! Check out HeliDirect.com for all your heli parts needs. I’ve got videos on both and how to setup and everything.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thank you for the reply!
After doing some quick research im looking at the omp m2 purely due to availability as i live in australia.
As its a bnf model.. what is a good cheaper transmitter and receiver?
@@MrDngrsdave the M2 EVO is the newest M2 lineup. Much better tail performance and little bigger then the M2 V2/EXP. so personally I’m going to say get a spektrum radio. Main reason is they are the easiest radio on the market to program! You will need at least a 6 channel, NX6 is a fantastic radio and a great price. But I always tell people by at least an eight channel because if you stay in Mojave you will outgrow it really quickly. In the beginning of course you do not need more than six channels but depending on what your plan and goals are scale helicopters or what not you owe me more. Plus getting bigger models and different FBL units you can do a lot more with a 8ch over a 6ch. You will need a DSMX satellite like the Kensun as it has a bind button. You can get a TX16S or I would recommend a Frsky X20S but they can be harder to program.
I think the tail blowout on the 230s was caused by your gyro gains being actually too low.
No stock 230 will blow the tail no matter your gains depending on how hard you are with the pitch. With the 300X motor that 636 had no chance. Put a Brain 2 FBL and no more tail blow out and way more power and pitch as well as a 3 blade head now. The 636 is a crappy FBL.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Is it just me or has the quality of Blade's helis gone down since horizon hobby was acquired? The only heli I had from them back in the good ole days was the scout CX so I can't speak much for their older collective pitch helis, but it just seems like their quality was a lot higher back when horizon hobby was still an independent company.
@@ambrosekillpack4841 they have always been the same company, they never changed companies. Eflite all of that was always horizon hobbies. Like anything quality control goes down Paul’s get me cheaper. My only real complaint is I wish they would use more metal as well as a better FPL unit. If you haven’t checked out the videos go back and look at what I did with the 230! It’s a beast now!
pretty sure OMP have upgraded the explorer blade grips to metal ones
It does as well as aluminum swash plate
@@westhobbiesrc8051 didn't know about the swash plate...I've been looking at getting one and that along with this video basically sealed the deal😂😂
@@seancushway6959 you can’t beat the M2! Anther great one is the Goosky S2! It’s a brand new release if you want to check those videos out on my channel.
Più bello e performante il M2 , ma piú resistente ai crash il blade 230s . Quale scegliere 🤔🤔🤔
Which receiver….?
The 230s has the stock 636 and the M2 has a DSMX satellite
Thank you
M2 wins 🏆
For sure!
Whats is you préfers?
OMP M2 over the stock 230 any day
@@westhobbiesrc8051 i love blade 230s and 330 s is my dream of boy🚀🤝🇫🇷🚁🙏🏽✍️✨😍
@@antoniofrance8 both are good helicopters. But The M2 is definitely leaps and bounds better in flight performance
@@westhobbiesrc8051 It is especially because of its smaller size but is good a learning
Hey if you have a sab goblin 500 if you can do an setting video
Unfortunately I do not, but what FPL are you running?
No questions omp is better its way more locked it and the 230 is way under powered. 230s is a great starter heli though
OMP is definitely better! Incredible heli, blade 230 was good for its time and a good beginner heli but the M2 is a great beginner heli as well.
Hey bro, i need some help if you can...ive got the 480 built and im installing the electronics and it comes with the smart esc or whatever and it has two wires coming out of it and i cant find any info on which one to hook up to the flight controller...could you look at it online and see if its something that you can help me with?...i know its petty but i can get everything else programed and stuff but i just dont know what to do with these two bitch ass wires...LOL
Yeah man not a problem! One is going to be your throttle signal and the other one should be telemetry data but I will look it up and double check and get back to you!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 ...Thanks bro!!!...i contacted "coeshow619" or whoever and another person and basically the wire that is wrapped around the magnet is the one that goes to the esc and the other is for other stuff that doesnt affect getting it up in the air but i would still like your feed back if thats cool...the more heads you have working on something then the more you will learn or succeed so thanks for taking the time to help me out
@@hoofarted8709 so from what I can tell the one that has the magnet looking thing wrapped around it is going to be your main throttle line. The other one looks like power and ground so I’m going to assume that is what feeds the fan? And the third wire is signal and ground so that will be the smart technology part that gives you everything to your radio. Hope that helps!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks for looking into it for me bro...so you are right about the wire with the magnetic donut, its throttle and the other wire that splits at the end is for "high speed" servos or servos that need more power or something like that but all i know is its not needed for me right now so its normally zip tied up out of the way...NOW, ive got to do all this programing stuff and im lost in the sauce but i can contact a heli builder at graves rc later this morning to get the rest competed...at least i got it all mechanically built, electronics installed and both recievers are bound and my motor is spinning in the right direction but i cant hook up servos yet because i cant figure out how to set the "frequency" and stuff so that they will work right...i should be up in the air later today though...thanks again for your help!!!
@@hoofarted8709 ah yes that makes sense! The Servo that need more power get more more from that wire, yes you need to setup the servo frequency before ever plugging in any servos so you don’t burn them up. I’m assuming you’re using the 6250? Graves RC is the best hobby shop! Love that place! You’re welcome, hope it was any help.
Dude, your biases are showing. Not cool!
First and hopefully obvious question... Why aren't you comparing the current versions of each model? The Blade 230s V2 was replaced with the 230s SMART a few years ago. You can't even get the 230s V2 anymore as it has been discontinued! The M2 Explore is still around, but don't you think it would be better and more interesting to compare the M2 V2?
Second, you replaced the motor and blades on the OMP and consider this to be a fair comparison? You don't think changing out the two most important parts of your heli and tweaking the settings to perform a certain way isn't going to have a substantial effect on flight characteristics? You also said that the 130s was bone stock. Then why are there Align blades on it? That's not bone stock dude.
Oh, did you also mention that the OMP M2 Explore also costs roughly $100 MORE than the 230s SMART? The M2 V2 is pushing $200 MORE than the 130s. Oh you didn't? Shame on you...
I can currently get the Blade 230s SMART all day long via Horizon Hobbies for $250. The OMPhobby M2 Explore is $340 via Amazon. Same for the M2 V2 which is currently running $420. I would certainly HOPE that for the difference in cost that the OMP comes with better components and would fly/perform better there chief (And that's not even counting the cost of your "upgrades" either). This is for the BNF versions of both helis BTW.
Maybe a better question to ask is "Which model offers better bang for the buck?" In other words, does the OMP M2 fly $100 better than the 130s SMART? Based on this video and several others doing reviews of this model, the Blade 130 SMART, and the Eachines E180, I'm not seeing enough to convince me that the OMP is that much superior to the rest.
Then there's other questions like what about parts and availability? Compatibility with aftermarket radios? How hard are either to fix? How about hop-ups and Upgrades? Etc, etc, etc...
Yes, I agree that in THIS particular video the OMP is better in a hover and has better tail authority than the Blade. That actually is impressive as motorized tails are (or at least were) notorious for tail wag and not keeping up with inputs to the main motor. One of the reasons I have stuck to belt or shaft driven tails over the years. My 10 + y.o. very old school Blade 400 3D can actually hold a pretty tight hover too when set up correctly. Then again tuning and set up is EVERYTHING when it comes to getting these helis to fly well regardless of manufacturer.
Before you say anything, no I'm not biased towards eFlite or Blade.. or OMP or Eachine for that matter. What I want is an HONEST video comparing apples with apples, not this playing games of swapped parts and flying at least one obsolete model. Then there is the language you're using... "My grandpa learned to fly on a 230s..." vs. "In my opinion the best micro-helicopter ever made". Laying it on a bit thick, don't you think? Geez... Seriously, it does raise a few other questions of what you might not be telling us.
As it is I am currently market for a new heli in the 200 - 300 size range. Unfortunately videos like this really don't help very much and kind of killed any enthusiasm I might have had for the OMP.
Biases are showing?
Well here is an opinion from someone that doesn’t make videos or do helicopter comparisons.
Out of all the micro helis out there, OMP has the best of the best and that’s why every other manufacturer is now copying the small direct drive, motor driven tail helis. As far as parts, you can get all the parts you need for a M2, given they are in stock since our country is ran by idiots.
And if you have a 10 year old heli, it shouldn’t be hard for you to know what’s good and not if you have been in the game so long.
This video has helped hundreds of people make the decision regardless if they wanted to go with the M2 or the 230.Unfortunately I cannot make videos to please everyone, I am probably the least biased person on CZcams in the game. I never push anyone or bash any brand other than giving my personal experience and opinion. Again as I’ve said in multiple videos if you watch my channel. I am not paid sponsored nothing everything you see on the videos are helicopters that I own. As far as comparing “old outdated” models. Well let’s see, The OMP hobby M2 V2 and M2 EXP are the exact same helicopter in regards to electronic frame design power system. The difference is? The V2 has a metal head color matched motors and metal cased servos. Hence the cheaper EXP. White performance wise they are identical! Now let’s compare the outdated V2 to 230 to the smart. What’s the difference? Let’s see, nothing other than battery telemetry and in my opinion a worst FBL than they already had. It’s the same design helicopter that’s been around since the blade SR days over 10 years ago. Now as far as the M2 having “bigger blade and bigger motor” that is untrue. If you watch and listen in the video you were talking about the 230. The M2 is bone stock! Now the 230s? Yes bigger motor and better carbon blades. Now why is that? Well let’s say like I’ve stated in other videos that it lacks serious power and blade flex is insane. So now let’s talk about prices, number one I do not talk about or mention prices and videos on products. For the fact of prices change every day again everything comes out of my pocket. Yes the V2 and XP is more money than the 230. But what are you getting for your money? A hell of a lot better helicopter in every sense. Why? Well let’s see a 230 S is $250 as you stated. But it is in a complete plastic helicopter. There is insane amounts of frame flex it is super weak and crashes tell authority is terrible. It is great for what it was years ago it is outdated even the smart. Can you upgrade it? Of course you can! But how much money are you going to spend to try to make it fly somewhat decent? More than you’re going to spend buying three OMP M2s. So is the M2 more expensive? Yes! But if you get a way better machine, but of course it all depends like I stated in my video what you are doing. If you are like my grandfather who is a normal flyer like the putt putt around and all you wanna do is figure eights 230 is perfect for you. But if you want a 3-D helicopter that will grow with you the M2 is for you. I am probably the only channel on CZcams that reply to every single comment. I replied to every email I spent hours helping people that I don’t have to! So is the M2 more expensive? Yes! But if you get a way better machine, but of course it all depends like I stated in my video what you are doing. If you are like my grandfather who is a normal flyer like the putt putt around and all you wanna do is figure eights 230 is perfect for you. But if you want a 3-D helicopter that will grow with you the M2 is for you. I am probably the only channel on CZcams that reply to every single comment. I replied to every email I spent hours helping people that I don’t have to! Just like replying to you, Could’ve just deleted your comment like every other person does I can lie in every video I could tell you that the M2 is the only helicopter you should ever buy I could never post crashes or mistakes. But I have an honest channel! And I hope every person that needs it. So being biased? Yeah definitely not. So again I will tell you like I tell everyone, and you buy whatever helicopter you like. I don’t personally care if you like Echine as the best brand in the world cool as long as people are flying helicopters that’s all that matters. So if this video didn’t help you make up your mind there is a bunch of other ones that will and if they don’t then do your own research. Learn the different models and learn what the differences are before just jumping and saying things like you have today.