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- Game of Thrones Season 4 Episode 6 Tyrion goes to stand trial for the murder of Joffrey the mogger and has a goated speech #reaction #gameofthrones #houseofthedragon #tyrionlannister
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Tyrion: I demand a trial by combat
Headless Ned Stark: Excuse me! You could do that?
"HEY, I didn't know that🤨"
Wait wtf. I never connected that! Yah why ddnt he? It's part of their law
@@piusdoe8984 The only explanation to this is that the North doesn't follow this law. Remember, Ned Stark once said something along the lines that a king who orders beheading should execute it no matter what, something like that. I don't remember the exact words.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I recall, Ned was told that if he confessed he would be spared.
He confessed. And Jofferey just said "execute the traitor" or "bring him his head" against everyones wishes, including cersi and tywin.
Ned was sentenced to death already to be carried out immediately; I think there is a difference.
Tyrions trial has to be one of the best scenes in this show! Peter Dinklage killed it!!!
Best scene in the show imo. Acting was spectacular and the plot/writing made sense!
Actually, Braun did😂😂
but at what cost? My boi Pedro!
It's the best scene
I love how that one line “watching your vicious bastard die, gave me more relief than a thousand lying whores” was such a perfect ‘two birds with one stone’ insult at both Cersei & Shay
Pycelle calling Joffrey the most noble child the gods ever put on this earth makes me legit cackle.
still more noble than ramsay and the entire cast of season fucking 8
💀💀💀💀
@@AdityaSingh-fy5vv wtf.... what did the cast of season 8 do to you?? Are u blaming cast because of the writers??
Peter Dinklage received 4 Emmys and 1 Golden Glove for Game of Thrones, well deserved!
Yes but everybody mistakenly thinks he won an Emmy for this season, which he didn't.
@@theshadowfax239 ?? im pretty sure he did? i remember them playing the clips before the award for each actor and this speech played before he got his
Too bad that one of those belong to Jonathan Banks
@@xDamage69 Well kinda, but not really
@@herrjemeneh368 not really what, Peter Dinklage literally said so himself
The guy in the middle, the guy defending Shai.... I like how he thinks, he tries to understand people's motivee
Yah. There's always reasoning. You can't just react to what has happened. Ask why
He has the most sense - him and Brig is it?
I don’t get why anyone should be saying she should die for him when he wouldn’t leave his desire for power in kings landing over her. Why should she die for him???? And you KNOW she was threatened with torture by Cersei or Tywin. Come on now
People are clowns saying Shae should have died for Tyrion
People are forgetting he didn’t leave with her earlier on.
And the Ned comparison… Ned would have been honorable and sent Shae away sooner - as soon as he knew he would never choose her over Kings Landing and power
@@user-hg3iv5hy3s Bruh, Ned didnt get his own daughters out of Kings Landing before confronting Cersei. He was a fool.
Naw- Shia could have had diamonds and left when Varys offered. Instead she stayed and is condemning Tyrion to death because he called her a whore?!
@@G3ForMeShe’s condemning Tyrion to death because if she didn’t Tywin and Cersei would murder her. Do you have any critical thinking ability at all?
" i wish i was the monster you think i am " this line still gives me goosebumps and tywin's reaction by the end was priceless..
You guys gotta stop spoiling it by saying “this episode is so good.” Just let them go into it
This was THE episode I was waiting for😭🐐
I am waiting for the "I'll be your champion" one 🖤
There's a scene in Joffrey's wedding where Olenna speaks with Sansa and touches her necklace while saying "killing a man at a wedding, horrid" in reference to the red wedding. But we never see her actually dropping the poison in Joff's cup.
The hype is so real in this trial scene 😂😂😂
The discussion afterwards is good. The thing with Shay or Ygritte, they are women who are used to violence, to be treated badly, to have to prove themselves, and there they meet men who want to take care of them and love them, and they start to believe in it. So when Jon betrays the Wildlings, when Tyrion sends Shay away and tells her she's a whore, both of them probably are mad with themselves for "falling" for it, they feel like fools after all the hardship they went through. It's hard to accept. And in their cruel and violent world (the only one they know) they act the only way they know.
You could see Oberoyn's eyes getting lit up
i would rather say popped out...
@@TusharSharma-gc4vs The gasp I gusped.
@@TusharSharma-gc4vs The way my jaw dropped...
The amount of times someone makes a prediction that ends up being correct and the people who’ve seen it have to bite their tongue 😂
In the books it is very clear that Shae was just about the money
right but the whole dynamic between their relationship is also different
Yeah GRRM said that the way Shae was portrayed in the series gives her an different and better light on the character. The actress made a great job. Granted, there are clues to her true nature, but are very well disguised in the show
and she was way yonger than him
@@jsvvnt yuppp and tyrion is the one who gets all pathetic and delusional over her, that's the entire point.
@@amnasiddique6886 exactly
I’m ITCHING for you guys to drop the rest of this season already, this whole season is peak 🤌🏻
Damn Carter and Brig have an eye for detail and have a lot of nuance in their takes, esp in their takes on Shae this episode… love seeing it
Now that they have seen this episode, the guys need to watch the blooper of them walking up to the stand with Tyrion and Jamie. It's my favorite off-script moment 😂
Edit: To help Carter explain why Tyrion made Shay leave the way he did, was to make sure she does, since he tried on multiple occasions for her own good, but she would never agree to it. So his only option was to make her hate him to leave. The only way she would leave on her own accord otherwise is if Tyrion went with her, that alone proves that she truly loved him, she didn't want to leave him.
she loved him but before this trial, tyrion made her hate him so much so that she can escape because she wouldn't leave without him. tyrion and even varys tried so many times before to make her leave so that she will be safe. it was just luck for cersei, tywin, etc. that they knew about shae and had her as witness when she finally can live without him.
we all know shae had a good side to her, she even helped sansa hide her first blood and threatened another servant to stay quiet- that was dangerous for shae.
love is very powerful, yes. and if successfully turned to hate, it is just as powerful.
Gods, the writing was strong then.
The most epic speech!! It’s just as good even after watching it countless times
The biggest tragedy of Tyrion is that out of Tywin's children he is the one most similar to his father, but because he is a dwarf and because his mother died while giving birth to him - Tywin can never accept him
If only Tywin could have seen Tyrion for who he really is...
P.S. Such an amazing acting by Peter Dinklage this episode
I disagree on one specific point, I think tywin could've gotten over those two things almost impossible but maybe, but there was one thing that he could never have gotten over and that's because he reminds him of himself, all his "worst" aspects
@@harsh_1910he could have gotten over him being a dwarf maybe. But he could have never gotten over his wife's death. Joanna was the only thing Tywin ever wanted. She was the only person he ever loved.
@@govinddas7876 he wanted her because she was pure unlike him, his self hatred is the thing that defines all his relationship with his family
@@harsh_1910 there's not much to go off of about Joanna in the books. All we hear about Joanna is through the rose tinted glasses of Cersei and Jamie and other Lannisters. Ofcourse they speak highly of her, like they would have about any other Lannister. But its worth keeping in mind that Joanna stood by Tywin proudly as he obliterated houses and killed innocent men left and right. I think there's more to it than just "she was pure"
@@govinddas7876 you're not wrong but i think that might just be an oversight, given the emphasis put on how she was the only person to make tyein smile, smile is something we would never associate with him, so for him to smile(granted allegedly but still) that just perfectly ties in to the tywin's character of hating himself and putting all those things as if he didn't world would laugh at him like they did at his father, he wanted to project the image of someone perfect, and she was his escape from that, even if joanna wasn't the best of person that's till doesn't change much as I'm talking more so about how tywin views her, not necessarily her, idolization of love interests/lovers is a very george thing to do its scattered throughout asoiaf, and most blatant in a song for lya
In the books, it is a hairnet covered in small jewels that is gifted to Sansa by Dontos Hollard, and straightened up by Lady Olenna as she speaks with Sansa...
Tywin played Jaime. Jaime lost that entire exchange. Tywin got everything he wanted and Jaime barely got what he wanted.
Any time you offer terms to someone and they accept immediately, that's what their goal was and you just gave it to them.
Can’t be switching spots on the couch like that! 😂
Tywin won’t say that Tyrion didn’t kill Joffrey. He doesn’t know who did it and the person who did likely left already so instead of wasting time, resources, and letting it be known that he let his grandson’s killer get away he would have Tyrion confess and go to the Wall and Jaime will be his heir to carry on his family’s line legitimately, it was a win-win for Tywin. Tommen is easier to deal with than Joffrey so there’s no love lost there really.
I just love Tyrion and that speech is definitely one of his best moments. Peter Dinklage did such a fantastic job!
Tyrion's speech was the most epic scene, the actor did amazing! I had such chills omg
Everyone says that Peter Dinklage won the Emmy for that speech, but he did not win the Emmy for that year.
Thank you Carter for paying attention to the show and the small details, the others need to pay attention cause they legit always question the things that have been shown to their face 🙂↕️
Tyrions wife wasn't actually a whore, Tywin made Jamie lie about that. She really loved Tyrion, but Tywin is truly horrible. I'm like 95% sure it never says in the show, it's book only.
Yeah its book only, and not including that in the show is the biggest mistake they made lol.
it's book only which is BIG MISTAKE since it kind of starts tyrion's villain arc. This is also the part where tyrion tells jaime all the guys Cersei has been sleeping with, this is where jaime's hate and disloyalty towards Cersei starts. The show fumbled in so many ways
@@fratystuff6737Yup. I’ll never understand why they cut that reveal, just completely leaves Tyrion’s plot feeling aimless.
Its a shame they cut it out. That leads onto some interesting stuff between Jamie and and Tyrion that we never got to see
Reading the books so many times, and watching the show at least 60 times makes things blend together so much XD
Go back and watch the episode of joefferys death. There is a scene where lady tyrell takes the stone from Sansa's necklace. The guys who have seen the show are of no use.
Clearly they just listened to the show while in a coma or something. They never remember anything.
To find out exactly how the poison was delivered to jeoffrey, watch Lady Olenna very closely for the entirety of the wedding reception.
You guys know that if Shae didn’t testify against Tyrion, they would’ve just murdered her, right? Also, she did get on the boat, but the blockade that Tywin put in place after Joffrey’s assassination caught her. Yes, there’s obviously some negative feelings there, but it’s important to keep the rest of the context in mind.
Ned and Catelyn were not true love: Catelyn loved his elder brother Brandon, who was killed on the Mad King's orders, and Ned was in love with Ashara Dayne, who died after Robert became king. They grew to love each other after years of unhappy marriage.
If I remember correctly, Cat thought Ned was cold, grumpy, and too serious.
Yes, not in the beginning but it's true love later on. If it wasn't then cat last thoughts wouldn't be about him
It taking a while to develop doesn’t make it not true love, and there is absolutely no indication that their early years were “unhappy.”
@@Polo-wk7zl there is an indication. One looking exactly like a Stark indication.
I dont know if I would call it love between Ned and Ashara. He was struck in awe by her that one time. But he seemed to be fine after that incident.
Even Tywin was impressed by Tyrion at the end. I'm sure in his mind he was like "that little fucker!"
Shae pulled a Criston.
“If you don’t love me and run away with me, I will burn you to the ground.”
Shae would be murdered if she didn’t testify. It’s insane how many people miss this completely obvious detail.
@@Polo-wk7zl she was proposed to leave king's landing multiple time, tyrion tried multiple time to save her life. Her response ? stay in king's landing and condemn tyrion lmao
@@Ayooo0oits pretty clearly implied Tywin always knew about Shae so what youre saying makes no sense. Tywin would have got her anyways.
@@Ayooo0o She did leave king’s landing, but Tywin closed the bay and she was brought back. That is immediately clear if you think about what you watch.
@@Polo-wk7zl lol, lying trough your teeth i see. It's pretty clear shae didn't want to leave king's landing because of her feeling for tyrion and all the advantage dating someone his rank can provide. if you're talking about shae in the book then your explanation is even worse because we know she was on tywin side so no point for him to "close the bay" like you're saying.
No wonder why he won an Emmy for that specific trial speech! That was UNBELIEVABLY AMAZING
If yall rewatch the purple wedding you can see the moment when Olenna Tyrell takes the vial from Sansa's necklace
1:55 Stannis is last person to be called entitled. This new show watching newbies 😂
Tyrion remains my favorite GOT character. He's just brilliant. This scene has no dragons, no fighting, no epic moves, it's just a speech and it's one of the best scenes in the show.
His dialogue was the juice. It was great
Looking forward to the next episode, always fun watching you guys react.
Heck, it made me go watch the whole series on my own after a certain point.
The HYPEEEE and the goosebumps the trial scene gives everyone 😭 I knew your reactions would be gold
My favourite episode of the whole show. Tyrion lannister just moved me🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
"If anybody likes Shae, I don't like you"-
LOL!
Loved the tyrion speech scene. Glad you all Enjoyed this episode. Get ready your eyes for the remaining episodes 😅
Another Carter and Brig W.
Cersei pointed Shae out to Tywin before the Purple Wedding, and he said to have her brought to him. Shae knew about Tysha (Tyrion's first wife), and was told by Tyrion that his father would kill the next whore he took to bed. Tyrion didn't have to take her with him to Kings Landing, he could have sent her away when he found out about his impending marriage, or he could have run away with her to Essos at any point. Obviously Tyrion couldn't control Shae's actions, but his last resort was to dehumanize her and throw her away like just another whore. At that point Shae became a woman scorn and had no reason to die for him, and lets be real, her fate probably would have been much worse than just simple death. Show-verse Tyrion and Shae may have had some real love but in the end they didn't treat each other as two people in love.
Also, no, Varys doesn't want to be king. Looking to the iron throne just symbolizes his desire for power in general. He won't sit the throne but he certainly wants to whisper in the ear of whomever does.
Trial by combat is all fun till you hear you are fighting against The fucking Mountain
If you re-watch the EP of Joffrey pay attention to what Olenna as she was talking to Sansas. " War is war but, killing a man at a wedding, horrid. What sort of monster would do such a thing"
Y’all need to go back and watch the scene of Joffrey’s pre-wedding breakfast. Where he cut up the book with the sword.
Cersei point Shae out to Tywin. Who says to bring her to the tower of the hand.
She did this because they forced her to.
The next episode is going to blow your brains out.
18:31 Mckay reaction hahaha
Omg i love the seating arrangement. Because jack cannot say anymore that he forgot. Everything from now on is totally memorable.
This episodes on to the end of Season 4 definitely is the strongest run of GoT (or at least my fav.). It's a non-stop rollercoaster ride awaiting us.😂
Regarding the post-episode discussion about Shae: It is possible to understand where someone is coming from and sympathize with them without condoning their actions. When it comes to a show like this, there is always room for nuance.
lol McKay with the Whistlin Diesel socks got me 😂
Ranking Gek: #1 Carter #2 Mckay #3 Brig ----------------- #4 Cannon ---------------------------------------------- #5 Jack
Jack is the man 🤓
@@StardustSymphony4607 If being "the man" means having room temperature IQ, sure.
game of thrones makes for good discussion, doesn't it?! these discussions are very similar to me discussing it with my friends. (Discussing the black and white, the grey, empathizing with the characters, trying to understand them). I loved experiencing it.
Peter Dinklage’s best performance he and Pedro Pascal literally owned this season
15:32 „What if Tywin killed Joffrey?“ Guys, it was already revealed that Littlefinger and Olenna killed Joffrey.
I’m literally crying 😂😂😂. That’s why he got all the Emmy’s
TYYRRRIIOOONN THE GOAT!!!!😤😤🔥🔥😤🔥🔥
@18:25 PURE CINEMA
The difference between Shae and Ygrid it's exactly that!!! They were or felt both betrayed and Ygrid show him her pain and anger, making him suffer, hurting him, but SHE DIDN'T SHOOT TO KILL HIM, she knows the vital points and she didn't touch him there, because she still loves him!!! Contrary to Shae who knows exactly that her testimony will get him killed and she's still there telling shit and twisting everything!!!
I need you guys sitting in your correct order, please.
peak game of thrones
I don't think Shae ever loved Tyrion. She saw him as a path to a better more comfortable life. She had the psychological edge over him as well since she knew the back story of him and the previous whore he married. Tyrion being a dwarf and always being the one girls would laugh at, has always been desperate to have someone who is committed to him and accepts him as he is. Shae used this and even pushed the limits until she got in danger.
One of the best episodes in the series.
Christ bruh there’s a reason the famous line exists .. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
Your assumptions about Shae are always so odd. She's a slave trying to live a life as painless a possible. Everyone on the stand had to say what Tywin wanted them to say; or else. She either dies. Or says this. She's not free to speak in this realm. And, no, Tyrion almost always treated their relationship as a with-a-whore-relationship. She made clear, she wanted an us-vs-them relationship... and he didn't go for that; which is fine; but she complained; that was fair enough also. Shae always understood the situation better than him. He wanted to play the Game of Thrones, and she knew that was useless. When being owned is your reality, you can only have right now, and there will be no later. Unless you build something. But Tyrion is always busy with 'the later' of other things (which in his life: is fair enough), missing out on the little 'now' she could get (which, in her life, is not). He should have left her be. Instead, he stole her, kept her, handled her. That feelings were genuine does not count: she IS a slave. And he played a relationship with her. And she played back. Sure. But there was no freedom, and very little choice. She once chose to try to build something with and for Tyrion; denied payment to leave. That was probably the only choice about her circumstances she ever had. And that backfired.
And now she is lying for her life. The one she wanted to protect is gone. And the one who was supposed to protect her, has no might to shield her from Tywin.
You want her to say the truth and get hanged? For Tyrion? The Tyrion she knows is not the one we all enjoy watching. From her POV: he hates her, and all efforts were for nothing. And now she goes back to just surviving.
I get Shae being pissed but she was ready to send Tyrion to his death right there.
There is no tywin and Cersei wouldn't have threatened her.
@@Anantinfinit Then why did she say "I'm a whore remember?" She was just dumb and did not realise he was trying to save her.
In the books, Shae never loved Tyrion, it was mostly one sided, she pretended to love him so that she could benefit from his wealth, and Tyrion knew that in the bottom of his heart, but he ignored that, he wanted to delude himself into believing that she loved him because he was craving for someone to truly love him
sometimes when ur watching someone watch the show for the first time its amazing how they come up with all possibilities except the one thats so obviously set up...they got to the idea that the crown will choose the mountain as the champion...how is the other half not obvious...? maybe it seems obviously set up and foreshadowed when u have seen it before....i watched it so long ago i cant recall if i had figured out what would hppen
Like the gigantic statue of Bravos, there use to exists in real life, COLOSSUS OF RHODES, just fyi
Olena put the poison in Joffrey's cup. Go back to the episode where Joffrey died. When Elena was talking to Sansa and admiring her necklace, she removed the poison and then placed it in his cup.
THE EPISODE WE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR 🐐
Just history info, the big statue at the begining was supposed to be real in the times of roman empire, if I am not mistaken.
@CinemaGek you’re not exactly wrong about Theon being held captive by the Starks. However Theon’s father gave him to the Starks as a sign of good faith for a treaty. Theon’s father tried to have his own rebellion against the Throne prior to the start of GOT.
Balon Greyjoy tried to rebel against the Throne to win independence from the Iron Throne (which Robert was King at the time). The Greyjoy’s rebellion failed and to avoid further fighting they came to a treaty. They gave the Stark’s Theon his only surviving son from the rebellion as a sign of good faith. And the Stark’s promised to raise him as they would their own as a sign of good faith as well.
So yes Theon was taken as a result of war however his father gave him to the Stark’s willingly to avoid being killed. Theon resented the Stark’s but really it was never their fault and they tried to make the situation the best it could be for him.
I'm in support of the seating change, Mckays socks are clean (sorry Cannon)
I hate Shae more than almost any other character, but I never put it in comments until this episode.
I really don't get the Shae hate. She was indeed a whore long before Tyrion and was likely already pretty jaded about the world and men, etc.. (so we shouldn't hold her up to the same standards as Cat or Rob or Ned). Even if she fell in love for him (Which I believe she did) in her mind, all Tyrion did was use her and threw away just like every other man so now her heart hardens one last time. And I would bet money she was cornered by Cerci's ppl since they had already identified her at the wedding. In Shae's mind. she owed Tyrion nothing.
The giant statue in front of Braavos is based on Collosus of Rhodes, a giant statue of Helios, one of the Seven Wonders. Sadly the statue lasted about 80 years before it collapsed due to earthquake, but it remains were still in the sea till at least 4 century.
I know I said it before, but again: in the books, the Iron Bank comes to Stannis, not the other way around. The show's version, where it is all thanks to Davos, pisses me off. I always hate when they diminish characters to hype up the others.
peak of GoT
Did you guys forget it’s already been revealed who killed Joffrey?
Mckay ❤
Why does no one consider that Shae was not heard by Tyrion either, that perhaps she was going to leave with a broken heart but was intercepted by Tywin and Cersei, because they already knew of her existence and planned to harm Tyrion, because they think that she alone did it for "revenge" and not because her life was at stake, yes, maybe finding herself in that situation and seeing what Tyrion was willing to go through in order not to go with her, maybe that made her angrier and "accept" that She is a whore like Tyrion said, her life never belonged to her so now she lives the only way she has, being a whore
Because they're not paying attention lmao what else. Also she's a woman against one of the favourite characters ever.
I agree, she can be annoying but it sad to see people view her as being in the wrong especially because her book counterpart was paid to give Tyrion the Girlfriend Experience. She’s a common born just trying to survive and make enough money (money that Tyrion is always just throwing around like nothing) and the fact that Tyrion can get so delusional that he believes she actually loves him and then get so angry and violent when that isn’t the case even though he knows he literally paying her to pretend. Now she’s in KL and the Lannisters probably threatened her and/or offered her money to testify against a man she was never actually attached to. Yeah it’s shitty for Tyrion, but what is she supposed to do, and it’s not like she was the only witness, like Tywin would have had him convicted regardless. She doesn’t have the same privilege like a House name like how being a Lannister gives him the option of being sent to the Wall, and she doesn’t have connections like who we will see help Tyrion later.
And even though she loves him in the show, the point still stands that she is defenceless surrounded by a pack of lions
7:00 AM EST upload time stays undefeated 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Saying she never loved him is not fair. People who were married and divorced knows that love can turn into hatred
Peter Dinklage in real life it's a bit of a hole but when he's in front of the camera he kills it and this scene absolutely proved it.
Scriptwriters: Peter, here are some nice lines for you. Just be you.
Peter Dinklage: That's so cute. Here's the Emmy.
As vor Varys testifying,, he actually didn't have other choice, because there were also other people present when Tyrion dropped the "...kings are dying like flies now", if not him, Cersei or the old guy could've also said this and make him simply confirm.
Shae is one of the big mysteries in the story.
He didn't win an Emmy for this episode, though.
@@andrewguenther988 Thank you, I don't know why everybody thinks he won the Emmy for this season when he didn't.
Theon not even attempting to leave is one of thee most frustrating scenes ever. I lost even more respect for him.
Comparing Tyrion to Robb or Ned is so stupid imo. Robb or Ned also wouldnt call their wives whores and send them away forever. Like what comparison are you even making at that point?
I dont think its ever confirmed in the books but it seems highly likely that Tywin was at the very least complicit in Joffrey's death.
Shae definitely did love Tyrion she just is dumb and didn’t understand the things Tyrion had to do. If she didn’t she wouldn’t have been so jealous of the relationship with Sansa, obviously she’s extremely petty and him calling her a whore and trying to get rid of her making her feel like he never loved her when she feels like she’s been one of the only good people to him is what has us here now , she doesn’t know that was to save her life, I hated the end to their relationship my first time watching
Shay pissed me off so bad. I just could not figure out why. The whole time he was trying so hard to save her. He loved her! Shay is smart, but why did she do it?
I love these reactions yall put out (im holding off on watching your “House of the Dragon” videos until I personally watch the episodes myself), but I’ve noticed something in several videos. I f-ing LOVE the “Destiny” (from Bungie) quotes y’all make 🤣🤣
Varys doesn't want to be King. He has said so before that he has no desire for it. He wants to put someone good on the throne, not himself.
oh these boys have no clue what's coming in the next 3 episodes
I'm shaikened