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  • Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether the Kansas City Chiefs need a Super Bowl LVIII win to be labeled a dynasty, then discuss if San Francisco 49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan can afford to lose. He is currently 0-2 in Super Bowls as a head coach and offensive coordinator.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  Před 4 měsíci +8

    Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

  • @sim396
    @sim396 Před 4 měsíci +377

    Acho meat rides shady soo much lol. Shady stole 2 rings on his way out.

    • @jamargraham6707
      @jamargraham6707 Před 4 měsíci +20

      Facts

    • @williamgreen4974
      @williamgreen4974 Před 4 měsíci +67

      😂😂😂 he was inactive in da playoffs for da chiefs

    • @sunnydays405
      @sunnydays405 Před 4 měsíci +105

      He just does it to hype his costars on the show man, its not that deep

    • @ManUntdForever
      @ManUntdForever Před 4 měsíci +32

      Honestly, it’s so uncomfortable to watch him hype him up so much because it feels insincere.

    • @wizlb
      @wizlb Před 4 měsíci +13

      The Kansas City Chiefs are a dynasty, because no other NFL team history has been to five straight conference championships and four Super Bowls, besides the New England Patriots, that’s a dynasty..

  • @BeepBeep1981
    @BeepBeep1981 Před 4 měsíci +27

    The answer is ABSOLUTELY. 3 in 5 years has always been the standard.

    • @dominicpancella3012
      @dominicpancella3012 Před 4 měsíci

      By that standard, the 49ers, who won 4 in 9 years and 5 in 14, never had one. I don't know anybody who wouldn't consider those 49ers a dynasty.

  • @line_one_up
    @line_one_up Před 4 měsíci +155

    Dynasty is not how many times you make it. It's about how many times you win it. What a stupid point.

  • @MrMathematics00va
    @MrMathematics00va Před 4 měsíci +138

    As a 41 yr old man that’s from VA that’s been a CHIEFS fan since 94/95… we need this bowl to be considered a dynasty

    • @line_one_up
      @line_one_up Před 4 měsíci +9

      I agree. You have to win to be a dynasty. If Jordan only won 2 games out of 5, it wouldn't be a dynasty.

    • @sheltondmello8031
      @sheltondmello8031 Před 4 měsíci +13

      Not really if you lose this year and win next year. That's still a dynasty

    • @firstchain_prominence
      @firstchain_prominence Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@line_one_upu sound goofy because basketball isn’t win or go home until game 7. chiefs are 14-3

    • @line_one_up
      @line_one_up Před 4 měsíci +3

      @firstchain_prominence when Dallas and 49ers won 4, they became a dynasty. Winning 2 and it's not a dynasty. You sound goofy, fool. 😘

    • @line_one_up
      @line_one_up Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sheltondmello8031 btw, you basically proved my point.

  • @Polynesian808
    @Polynesian808 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Why is everyone trying to write off what the Patriots did.....8 straight AFC Championships from 2011-2018 which is probably gonna be beaten, however the Patriots did become the only team in NFL History to become a Dynasty in 2 different Decades by winning 3 SB's in each.

    • @TheTimelessBeacon
      @TheTimelessBeacon Před 4 měsíci

      They did cheat though

    • @Supafly101
      @Supafly101 Před 4 měsíci

      That's Joy and Shady tilting the scale to fit their narrative ⚖️

  • @BigDave113100
    @BigDave113100 Před 4 měsíci +51

    “Lesean McCoy is on the field” 😂😂😂😂 acho the GOAT hype man

    • @99MRyaJ
      @99MRyaJ Před 4 měsíci +7

      Shady kept it real and said he was on the field watching lmao

    • @jefeseason4990
      @jefeseason4990 Před 3 měsíci

      Acho is trash this is all he could be

  • @tanker335
    @tanker335 Před 4 měsíci +54

    Had Dee Ford not lined up offsides they would of had ANOTHER Super Bowl appearance.

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci +11

      they wouldve won that sb😂

    • @davidepling724
      @davidepling724 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Had the playoff overtime rule been like it is today the Chiefs may have made another Super Bowl

    • @imonyourside8376
      @imonyourside8376 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Had Chris Jones not been flagged for hitting Brady in the shoulder pad they also would have gone to another Super Bowl.

    • @thomasvulaj8997
      @thomasvulaj8997 Před 4 měsíci

      ⁠@@davidepling724 Is this sarcasm because it hasn’t been changed ? Rules are and were TD wins. FG allows opponent chance at possession - if they get stopped they lose, TD they win, if they get a FG the ball keeps going back and forth until the team with the lead makes a stop or 1 team scores a TD

    • @davidepling724
      @davidepling724 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@thomasvulaj8997 the playoff overtime rule was changed after the Chiefs beat the Bills in overtime after the Chiefs won the kickoff and scored a touchdown on that drive. Now the overtime rule states that if the receiving team scores a touchdown on their first possession in overtime then the other team gets a chance to receive a kickoff and score a touchdown on that drive. If the second team scores a touchdown then it's next score wins. This is for playoffs early. What you said applies to regular season only. Thanks for letting everyone know that you thought you had a gotcha moment on someone but you were absolutely clueless.

  • @kendalgreene8688
    @kendalgreene8688 Před 4 měsíci +31

    Buffalo 4 straight years too the Superbowl which is still crazy

    • @SirDuckwrth
      @SirDuckwrth Před 4 měsíci +5

      Can’t believe they don’t have a win tho.

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci +5

      if they won 2 out of the 4 they a dynasty🤷

    • @imonyourside8376
      @imonyourside8376 Před 4 měsíci

      The tables struck back and hit you with that karma

    • @rodrigocampo9014
      @rodrigocampo9014 Před 4 měsíci

      😂 Chokalo billlllllllllllllls 🤣🤣

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci

      To * ......and they lost allllllllllll 4 😂😂😂

  • @brooklyntony9082
    @brooklyntony9082 Před 4 měsíci +66

    Shady trippin Joy is right minimum 3 chips before you looked at as a dynasty. 😂😂😂 STOP moving the goal post Shady & Acho

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci +1

      6 afc championships😂

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 4 měsíci +2

      There's multiple teams on the NFL Dynasty list with 2 Superbowl wins... Google it😂
      3's an arbitrary number lol

    • @lilmoepal
      @lilmoepal Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@lakeozarkrei3767next it’ll be 1 and you’re a dynasty 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @brooklyntony9082
      @brooklyntony9082 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I know as time goes by we change the meaning if things 2× superbowl winners are simply 2× superbowl winners. 3 and above are dynasties.

    • @brooklyntony9082
      @brooklyntony9082 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@lakeozarkrei3767 if you want to say the chiefs franchise is a dynasty that's technically true(4) Ravens franchise has(2) not a dynasty. Eli Manning has 2 chips, not a dynasty, Giants franchise 4 chips dynasty. 2 is not enough...Today's core math😂😂😂😂

  • @Sportsfilmappreciator
    @Sportsfilmappreciator Před 4 měsíci +51

    As a niner fan you chiefs are tough I consider you a dynasty, just hoping we can get 1 here

    • @kcbd50
      @kcbd50 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Respect. I just hope the little ol underdog chiefs can pull it out as well.

    • @CodyRoper
      @CodyRoper Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@kcbd50 With the way my team (49ers) are playing in the playoffs, I’m not sure how Vegas has us as the favorites in this games. I’d say cheifs should be -3.5. Go from playing average in the regular season to playing like the 2007 patriots. Respect. Let’s get a shoot out and awesome game

    • @kcbd50
      @kcbd50 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@CodyRoper I would love an offensive showcase but our defense has been so good this year. And as a result, Mahomes and the offense go in conservative mode if they have a 10 point lead. Which absolutely leaves the door open for a last second loss. Mahomes absolutely plays better from behind so I am almost hoping for a 4th quarter deficit. It sounds ridiculous but I promise you it's true.

    • @nadecha5326
      @nadecha5326 Před 4 měsíci +6

      If Niners lose this SB they’ll never win, just wasting a talented squad

    • @kwoylee5617
      @kwoylee5617 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I'm a Chiefs fan, but root for the 49ers when y'all are playing other teams. So I'll wish you luck... but not too much luck!

  • @raymondromo3506
    @raymondromo3506 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Two AFC championship OT losses could have been six straight Super Bowls. Freaking amazing!!

    • @rodrigocampo9014
      @rodrigocampo9014 Před 4 měsíci

      But wasnt...

    • @noerradpictures5286
      @noerradpictures5286 Před 4 měsíci +1

      keywords… “could have”

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@noerradpictures5286key words ..yda ream losers too 😂😂😂

    • @lalo82605
      @lalo82605 Před 4 měsíci +3

      If Goskoski doesn't miss extra point against Broncos 2015 Patriots go to 5 Straight SuperBowls

  • @rawbellco49
    @rawbellco49 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Moving the Goal Post! You can't change the narrative its 3 Championships..

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci +1

      who made up this rule that it has to be 3 chips?

    • @rawbellco49
      @rawbellco49 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jaysonsmith7264 You name a Dynasty with 2?

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci

      @@rawbellco49 its more than just that. its been 5 straight hosted afc champs and then a sb run where id say patty has an 80 percent chance of winning the sb and he beat all the best afc qbs in their house

    • @rawbellco49
      @rawbellco49 Před 4 měsíci

      @jaysonsmith7264 Do consider the Cavaliers a dynasty for going to the Championship 2007,2015,2016,2017 and 2018 and losing 5 out of 6, like they said the Bills went 4x"s in a row and lost so are they a Dynasty? If you want to use that logic, then the word "dynasty" is useless..

    • @Johenz
      @Johenz Před 4 měsíci

      @@rawbellco492007 don’t count too far. If the cavs would’ve won atleast 2 then year I’d say so. But basketball is different cause winning 3 in a short period of time is common unlike football

  • @MrRiddler6
    @MrRiddler6 Před 4 měsíci +8

    if they win yes, its a dynasty. Its the rule of 3. 3 championships or more in the span of 10 years. that's how it was for the Steelers in the 70s. Thats how it was for the 49ers in the 80s. The Cowboys in the 90s. And the Patriots in the 2000s/2010s

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 4 měsíci

      Google the NFL Dynasties list... You're so far off😂

    • @zachphil3203
      @zachphil3203 Před 4 měsíci

      You need at least 1 back to back. I predict the niners will go back to back and flip this dynasty talk on it's head. Chiefs are going to fall fast next year. They won't have Jones next year and omenihu will be recovering. Kelce is aging and mahomes will be the same mahomes but his safety blankets won't protect him as well as he's used to. Chiefs lose this week and get bounced in the wildcard round next year if they make it to the playoffs. Keep those receipts folks .

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 4 měsíci

      @zachphil3203 🤦‍♂️😅That's an awful long wish list kid... to bad it's fantasy👍

  • @bambam6537
    @bambam6537 Před 4 měsíci +8

    We are NOT about to change the criteria about what a dynasty is! A dynasty is 3 super bowls or more ima span of 4-5 years! Including a back to back! You can’t put them in the same league as the Steelers, 49ers, GBay, Dallas. Stop disrupting history just because you are a fan!

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Stop hatin cause you a hater 😂😂😂

    • @Hey37373
      @Hey37373 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Charles-3900no one’s hating. lol. I actually want to see it and I’m a niners fan. I like greatness. But you need 3. Otherwise just was a dominant team

  • @richardclark1127
    @richardclark1127 Před 4 měsíci +12

    No one considers the Bad Boy Pistons a dynasty. Pistons won back to back, and would have probably 3 peated had Isiah not got injured against the Lakers. They went to the conference finals 5 straight years, and went to the Finals 3 straight. If the Chiefs lose, they are pretty much the Bad Boys Pistons. Joy is right, you need 3

    • @hamdeali53
      @hamdeali53 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Exactly there are the Miami heat big 3 which was a great run but not a dynasty

    • @HardCold-Alquan
      @HardCold-Alquan Před 4 měsíci +1

      I wrote the same thing - then I saw your comment. That's right.

    • @AmirKhan-yv8jm
      @AmirKhan-yv8jm Před 4 měsíci

      You must win multiple, and in the seasons you don’t at least be in contention lol!

    • @richardclark1127
      @richardclark1127 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@AmirKhan-yv8jm It's at least 3. No one talks about the Cowboys dynasty in the 70s....because you need 3 championships. Cowboys went to the Super Bowl in 1971, 72, 76, 78, and 79 and won 2.

  • @gregoryjohnson2619
    @gregoryjohnson2619 Před 4 měsíci +12

    I agree with Joy COMPLETELY

  • @BA-xw8nw
    @BA-xw8nw Před 4 měsíci +6

    I want a friend like shady. Reid won him his first Super Bowl so he’s on his nuts. Dynasty starts with three chips…every sport every team we call a dynasty has three chips usually back to back or a year apart within a stretch

    • @AmirKhan-yv8jm
      @AmirKhan-yv8jm Před 4 měsíci

      And in the years you don’t win you should at least be in contention and make the playoffs!

  • @StuntmanBeatz313
    @StuntmanBeatz313 Před 4 měsíci +8

    6:35 Bron wasn’t the gatekeeper he was the punching bag 😂

  • @rodgesniperwolf
    @rodgesniperwolf Před 4 měsíci +6

    49ers were up 10 points in the 4th quarter last time with Pornstar Jimmy , 49ers are much improved. They won’t commit the same mistake twice. 30-24 Niners 🏆💯🔥

    • @kingpete3160
      @kingpete3160 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Exactly Christian mc caffrey is gonna have a field day lol 😂 with the chiefs

    • @alexandrade7835
      @alexandrade7835 Před 4 měsíci

      Chiefs are going to win because of Taylor Swift

    • @Dannycuddy
      @Dannycuddy Před 4 měsíci

      Every team’s fans playing the Chiefs predicts they’ll score 30+ and every time they’re wrong.. 27-17 Chiefs

  • @dabaydestrian437
    @dabaydestrian437 Před 4 měsíci +19

    They wasn’t talking about the chiefs like this earlier in the season when they was losing 😂😂

    • @officialSTR1FE
      @officialSTR1FE Před 4 měsíci

      Because they receivers was dropping everything like hot potatoes that's why. But I guess you just got here. It was never 15, it was everyone else around him. 15 gonna be 15 regardless, but he don't throw it and catch it, just like The Goat couldn't.

    • @XxFURYxXwarriorrr
      @XxFURYxXwarriorrr Před 4 měsíci

      What else they gonna talk about ? 🤣

  • @corey528
    @corey528 Před 4 měsíci +3

    In my life time I have seen 3 dynasties, 49ers in the 80s, Cowboys in the 90s and the Patriots. Chiefs are very close but need an additional Super Bowl.

  • @Beerdontbreakharts
    @Beerdontbreakharts Před 4 měsíci +3

    Love when shady talks. Makes me feel so smart

  • @99MRyaJ
    @99MRyaJ Před 4 měsíci +6

    Joy and Shady letting us know that they’re picking KC to win this one 😂 I think we all knew that already.

    • @Supafly101
      @Supafly101 Před 4 měsíci

      I know right, they might as well come in dressed in matching clothes, as if we don't know wassup 🙄 Lol

  • @dustinray9011
    @dustinray9011 Před 4 měsíci +33

    Patriots went to 8 straight AFC championship games. Why they acting like 6 from KC is something new.

    • @allchiefs3255
      @allchiefs3255 Před 4 měsíci +3

      8 straight? Oh okay bud

    • @naesmclaughlin
      @naesmclaughlin Před 4 měsíci +1

      Facts. From 2011 to 2018 you could count on the Pats in the AFCCG

    • @winstonstowers9121
      @winstonstowers9121 Před 4 měsíci +3

      You literally named the one team to go to more that was a dynasty aswell

    • @deemoney8014
      @deemoney8014 Před 4 měsíci

      Don't forget about the cheating scandals by the Patriots

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci +2

      name one other team thats done it. oh ya😂

  • @hondasan6531
    @hondasan6531 Před 4 měsíci +14

    You should have to have 3 in a short time frame. Close isn't good enough. Of course in this participation trophy culture...

    • @evosmith12
      @evosmith12 Před 4 měsíci +1

      3 Super Bowl for a dynasty is a guide, not a requirement. So what if a team went undefeated 5 years in a row but lost three super bowls by missed kicks as time ran out?
      Your answer is no dynasty and that’s why you need better logic, such as why their dominance still isn’t enough to be called a dynasty not just the rings…

    • @Dr.Van-Nostrand
      @Dr.Van-Nostrand Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@evosmith12 agreed, I think this KC team right now is a dynasty. Even with an L vs the niners [& I think KC wins this super bowl]
      Not only have they had 6 dominant years, along with 6 consecutive championship games, and 2 super bowl wins with FOUR SB APPEARANCES.... for every new year before the season even starts, everyone knows for a fact that KC is the #1 super bowl favorite, the powerhouse, and the team you must beat if you want a chance at winning a ring... and this has been the only inevitable fact you can bank on every year for every football season since the tom brady/belichick patriots dynasty.

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci

      but yet i heard joe was better than patty bc he made the bowl😂 i can see them goalposts moving

    • @hondasan6531
      @hondasan6531 Před 4 měsíci

      Sorry...close isn't good enough for me. You need 3. You can settle if you'd like.

    • @evosmith12
      @evosmith12 Před 4 měsíci

      @@hondasan6531 it’s not settling. You’re the one that’s settling on an arbitrary requirement that could allow a lucky team to become a dynasty and and unlucky dominant team to never reach that term. Learn to think outside the box and don’t settle on arbitrary requirements

  • @montyellingsworth4982
    @montyellingsworth4982 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That fact that there is a conversation is a great start .

  • @ryanlebard3787
    @ryanlebard3787 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Shady said multiple times “3 superbowls in 5 years”
    😂 so he doesn’t even realize he’s saying YES they do need another suoerbowl to become a dynasty cause they only got 2 Super Bowls last I checked

    • @demayoexperience6646
      @demayoexperience6646 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I noticed that, and no one corrected him

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci

      Last I checked we still have multiple 😂😂😂who's ya team ??. Bet you'll lie 🤥

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@demayoexperience6646notice GREATNESS 😂😂

    • @ryanlebard3787
      @ryanlebard3787 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Charles-3900ya Mahomes is a beast … but just wait till next week before you crown them a dynasty…. I’m from the Bay Area as well so Niners and Warriors

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ryanlebard3787 ITS CHIEFS KINGDOM..WE WEAR THE CROWN 👑 AND LAST TIME I CHECKED THE LOMBARDI TROPHY 🏆 RESIDES IN KANSAS CITY MISSOURI..OUR FLAG 🚩 SITS ATOP FOOTBALL SUPREMACY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE......SHOUTOUT FILLMOE THOUGH....AND IM A MAVERICKS FAN ..KANSAS CITY KINGS MOVED TO SACRAMENTO...and warriors ain't winning nothing else ..

  • @Northphilly-wu4oq
    @Northphilly-wu4oq Před 4 měsíci +17

    Man you need 3 to win. This is no dynasty

    • @bsmith8943
      @bsmith8943 Před 4 měsíci +1

      We win you still saying we ain't. Lol

    • @chrisbonfigkio3892
      @chrisbonfigkio3892 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nba is different then nfl. Nfl is hardest sport of getting back to the championship then the other sports. Basketball relies on an individual talent more than any other sport as well.

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 4 měsíci

      Cry eagles cry..foh we know jalen ain't winning 😂😂 and I'm from KCMO but lived in southwest Philly off woodland Ave

    • @dominicpancella3012
      @dominicpancella3012 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@chrisbonfigkio3892NHL is widely considered harder than NFL to repeat because you have to get through 4 best-of-7 series to do it. But NBA is definitely the easiest because a single superstar or pair of superstars can take over like in no other sport.

  • @christopherlockwood1857
    @christopherlockwood1857 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Purdy is so much better than people think

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci +1

      no hes not😂. he hit a corner back in the head and his wr caught it for a 50 yd gain

    • @CrookedJoeBiden
      @CrookedJoeBiden Před 4 měsíci

      @@jaysonsmith7264Brady had a couple plays like that in the playoffs when he was with the patriots😂

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci

      @@CrookedJoeBiden brady isnt the goat bc of his talent dont get it confused

    • @Dannycuddy
      @Dannycuddy Před 4 měsíci

      I agree. Chiefs D still getting 2 turnovers off him though

  • @mikedelarosa4792
    @mikedelarosa4792 Před 4 měsíci

    I’ll say this you guys compared to other shows even when there wasn’t a game before still great conversation a lot of nuance and still an all around very entertaining conversation you guys had today!

  • @jessemartinez6120
    @jessemartinez6120 Před 4 měsíci +16

    You can’t make up your own rules just to fit your needs…

  • @nadecha5326
    @nadecha5326 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Of course Joy and Lesean goin for Chiefs. They unite on everything since the show started.

    • @Supafly101
      @Supafly101 Před 4 měsíci

      Since they've both been conspiring against the niners, I say Acho Bet them both, If the niners win Shady and Joy get replaced on SPEAK.

  • @lucaslevonmusic
    @lucaslevonmusic Před 4 měsíci +8

    It’s 3 Super Bowls in so many years. That’s it. Chiefs fan here. Let’s get that Dynasty on Sunday. 🤙🏈

    • @user-ml9us4ws4o
      @user-ml9us4ws4o Před 4 měsíci

      Chiefs are not winning their is no way Trent and cmc will come up short in the Super Bowl .

    • @lucaslevonmusic
      @lucaslevonmusic Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-ml9us4ws4o Hahahaha

    • @nextbigthing2917
      @nextbigthing2917 Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-ml9us4ws4oYou’re about to see why 15 is the goat and why this team is in a dynasty conversation.

  • @abdeenabdul7803
    @abdeenabdul7803 Před 4 měsíci +2

    James jones won a superbowl as an important part of the team ,shady won 2 superbowls and was barely used and in 1 he was inactive lol .When it comes to superbowls and playing in big games ,i wannna hear james jone

  • @iralewis4674
    @iralewis4674 Před 4 měsíci +2

    James Is the reason this show is watchable

  • @Henlarious
    @Henlarious Před 4 měsíci +27

    Let’s be clear. Shady won a Super Bowl SITTING ON THE BENCH. He was the back up RB and barely played.

    • @kcbd50
      @kcbd50 Před 4 měsíci +1

      He was a healthy scratch in the super bowl

    • @JayEnigma727
      @JayEnigma727 Před 4 měsíci +2

      He was on a good team with quality backs, STOP trying to belittle someone. Shady was an A+ running back, you can NEVER take that away from him

    • @kcbd50
      @kcbd50 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@JayEnigma727 he wasn't the best in his era though. If not for injuries, Jamaal Charles was is HOFer

    • @obynoomere1280
      @obynoomere1280 Před 4 měsíci

      😂😂😂

    • @AmirKhan-yv8jm
      @AmirKhan-yv8jm Před 4 měsíci

      @@JayEnigma727he made the 2010s all decade team!

  • @KC_hotRODS961
    @KC_hotRODS961 Před 4 měsíci +24

    The Chiefs turned the AFC division championship into the Arrowhead invitational. Mic drop

    • @jaybrickman1094
      @jaybrickman1094 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You mean the AFC Championship, this season is the only exception for the last 6 years

    • @ryanlebard3787
      @ryanlebard3787 Před 4 měsíci +3

      And if they don’t win this year to make it 3 super bowl wins I guarantee they’d rather have 3 super bowl wins over 6 AFC championship appearances ….,,,and only 2 super bowl wins 😂 soo

    • @SINGULAR-L
      @SINGULAR-L Před 4 měsíci

      And get the job done half the time

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@ryanlebard3787And EVERY SINGLE TEAM in the NFL would love to be in their shoes😂

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@SINGULAR-LHow many Superbowls your team won lately kid?🤔🤣

  • @OHANA-Beach-Suites-CDO
    @OHANA-Beach-Suites-CDO Před 4 měsíci

    LOVE THIS CREW!!!!❤️❤️❤️

  • @tysonstightlines3082
    @tysonstightlines3082 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You could make an argument for dynasty now. If they win this one. You don’t have to.

  • @jimmyehrhardt7019
    @jimmyehrhardt7019 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Honestly the steelers and cowboy's dynasty was before the salary cap which made it much easier to keep your team together unlike what it is now.

    • @Batz408
      @Batz408 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Don't forget the 49ers.

  • @loridoyle7984
    @loridoyle7984 Před 4 měsíci +6

    You watch the show tomorrow and there opinions will change. Shady is the only consistent commentator who stays the same.

  • @kevinwilliams3599
    @kevinwilliams3599 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Why did Shady say WE when referring to the Chiefs 😂

  • @lindsey1448
    @lindsey1448 Před 4 měsíci

    The business model take is soooo spot on ❤

  • @robreeto
    @robreeto Před 4 měsíci +3

    AFC championships mean nothing. Brock Purdy just won an NFC championship and theyre calling him a game manager

  • @jctslice
    @jctslice Před 4 měsíci +3

    No. They do not. The Spurs are a dynasty with never going back to back. Stop the cap. Chiefs are already a dynasty. 6 straight title games, 3 super bowls, 2 rings. Already dynastic if the Spurs are dynastic

    • @kcbd50
      @kcbd50 Před 4 měsíci

      Four super bowls

    • @still2nd2none
      @still2nd2none Před 4 měsíci

      Exactly!! We already have 3 superbowl wins and one more possibly on the way

    • @cjethridge4000
      @cjethridge4000 Před 4 měsíci

      Spurs got 5 rings

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice Před 4 měsíci

      @@cjethridge4000 but they never went b2b and didn't go to 6 straight WCFs. Honestly, the Detroit Pistons from 03-08 would have a better/similar type argument to KC as being a dynasty if they had won 1 more title in their stretch. They I think went to 5-6 straight ECFs and won in 04. That's pretty close to what the Chiefs are doing now

    • @jameskropp8033
      @jameskropp8033 Před 4 měsíci

      What they are talking about is that the Kansas City Chiefs have won two Super Bowls with Mahomes. They are not talking about the Chiefs winning a Super Bowl without Mahomes. The 3 wins that you guys and gals have said.

  • @nadecha5326
    @nadecha5326 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Neither the Seahawks or the Rams are a dynasty but yet they have won a ring in last 10 yrs and the Dynasty team can’t. Get it together Niners

  • @JandelectronicsBlogspot
    @JandelectronicsBlogspot Před 4 měsíci +2

    Shady is a ring chaser, good player, asterisk superbowl rings

    • @Marc_It_Down
      @Marc_It_Down Před 4 měsíci

      He had a killer career. There have been worse cases of this

  • @lakeozarkrei3767
    @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 4 měsíci +1

    8 straight Division titles (2nd all time nfl history); 6 straight AFC Championship games (2nd all time NFL history); 5 straight home AFC Championship games (NFL record); 4 Superbowls in 5 years (tied 3rd all time NFL history); 2 Superbowl Championships.
    Chiefs are a Dynasty.
    The only question is if they win this Superbowl are they the greatest NFL Dynasty all time.

    • @leojenn87
      @leojenn87 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Like the way you laid this out

    • @dominicpancella3012
      @dominicpancella3012 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yeah, it really cannot be argued that they are in the midst of one of the best runs any team has ever had, and what do we call that if not a dynasty? Only thing is, anybody who abides by the 3-title rule or the back-to-back rule will have to shut up if the Chiefs win on Sunday anyway.

  • @naesmclaughlin
    @naesmclaughlin Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is the best Chiefs defense in the Andy Reid era. They were ranked top 3 in the league and haven't given up more than 25 points all season. How is it considered the worst team in the Mahommes/Reid era?

    • @Brb2021
      @Brb2021 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Exactly! They're a bunch of clowns 🤡🤡 last year they all went against KC 😭 they all picked the Eagles & now their on KC 🥜🥜

    • @Christ_is_King1646
      @Christ_is_King1646 Před 4 měsíci

      For real and that Niners D is sus

  • @makeitlucid
    @makeitlucid Před 4 měsíci

    This is the best defense Pat has ever had. Everyone on tv has said that since the beginning of the season.
    Acho is slandering them by saying “worst team he’s ever had.” He either mentions worst receiving core or worst overall offense;
    He cannot mean worse team.

  • @99MRyaJ
    @99MRyaJ Před 4 měsíci

    Achos point about Shanahan having to switch up his philosophy if he loses is a great point. However, we have Purdy now. He’s not just a QB surrounded by great talent which makes him a good QB. He’s a good QB that I believe can be elite that has great talent around him. That’s most of our Niners stances on Purdy. It’s not that we really think he’s actually elite rn. But he’s playing like it. So why not? As a fan believe that your QB will be elite if he’s playing elite!

  • @Mj-uz1ng
    @Mj-uz1ng Před 4 měsíci +1

    Joy the only one speaking truth

  • @3alan6morgan95
    @3alan6morgan95 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Im with Joy, 3 chips is the standard for Dynasty.

  • @percivalandres7262
    @percivalandres7262 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It's considered a dynasty if you have at least dynas"three".

  • @TheGoldenDictator
    @TheGoldenDictator Před 4 měsíci +1

    In that case the 90's bills were a dynasty for just reaching the Superbowls 😂😂

  • @MrAnonymousization
    @MrAnonymousization Před 4 měsíci +2

    A dynasty if 2 in a row. Thats it. Gotta be back to back at some point.
    There are lots of teams that are “dynasty like”. Spurs in the NBA, were not a dynasty. Dominant yes, but there is a standard to be considered a dynasty.
    Chiefs wins back to back they are a dynasty. They can be the first dynasty since the 03-04 Patriots of they win this Super Bowl.

    • @HardCold-Alquan
      @HardCold-Alquan Před 4 měsíci

      Back 2 back - is back 2 back. That is different from a dynasty. The Pistons of the late 80's went won 2 in a row, but lost one. No one calls them a dynasty. The Spurs never won back 2 back, but they did get there back 2 back, and they are a dynasty because they kept winning - as long as Duncan was there...

  • @erichartley7310
    @erichartley7310 Před 4 měsíci +1

    There is only one way to answer this. Were the Jim Kelly Bills a Dynasty? 4 straight SB appearances, but loss them all!

    • @MrSir270
      @MrSir270 Před 4 měsíci

      What happened in years 5 and 6?

  • @rolandm4546
    @rolandm4546 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'm with Joy. You got to win 3 titles.

  • @SamoanBrasileiro
    @SamoanBrasileiro Před 4 měsíci

    My favorite show to watch has just broke my heart. Joy and Shady going against the Niners. Acho and Brandon hasn't confirmed 😕

  • @pauljones7487
    @pauljones7487 Před 4 měsíci

    James Jones is a fool talking about Shady sitting there watching the Super Bowl😂😅😂😂 instead of playing

  • @Daddyc1684
    @Daddyc1684 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Shady did nothing to get those rings! He just had a roster spot.

  • @svenrohlffs4494
    @svenrohlffs4494 Před 4 měsíci

    There is not a single dynasty without a back-to-back during that specific stretch

  • @j.olacio5298
    @j.olacio5298 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Stop trying to change the criteria for mahomes. Afc championships do not count. He could win the next 10 afc championships and not win another superbowl. By your logic, that's a dynasty. No they are not currently a dynasty. Superbowls and only superbowls count towards dynasty status.

  • @ToniKhoury83
    @ToniKhoury83 Před 4 měsíci

    Chiefs need this one to be a dynasty. 3 is the magic number and always has been, and if they can somehow pull-off a 3peat next season...they would be historic and likely considered the best team in NFL history.

  • @_joezyy
    @_joezyy Před 4 měsíci

    No way Joy Taylor is the most logical on this take. Acho contradicted himself by saying he rather have the three SB wins but the two SB wins and all the conference appearances is more “difficult”.

  • @devilsreject5343
    @devilsreject5343 Před 4 měsíci

    Steelers went to 4 SBs in 6 years, and then never returned for almost 20 years... so it can happen easily even with Mahomes at QB. The AFC is loaded with massive talent too, and in many respects, guys haven't lived up to that.

  • @kialbonetti1997
    @kialbonetti1997 Před 4 měsíci +1

    To be a dynasty you have to win 3 championship’s within a 5 year stretch. For example the last 4 American sports dynasties were the Golden State Warriors, New England Patriots, The San Francisco Giants, and the Chicago Blackhawks. The Tampa Bay Lightning were not only so close to being a dynasty, but they almost did a three-peat, just how the Warriors almost did too. I believe the last franchise to complete a three-peat was the Lakers, and the Bulls twice in the 90’s. Basically, the Chiefs have to win one more SB between now and next year for this stretch to be considered a dynasty.

    • @jeffreymartinez6939
      @jeffreymartinez6939 Před 4 měsíci

      Didn't the Patriots win 14/16/18?

    • @kialbonetti1997
      @kialbonetti1997 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jeffreymartinez6939 lol totally forgot about the Pats. I always revert back to the early 2000’s Dynasty that I forget about the 2010’s one.

    • @kialbonetti1997
      @kialbonetti1997 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jeffreymartinez6939 I fixed my post and added the Pats in. Thanks for reminding me of that slip up.

  • @vacaymcfallin
    @vacaymcfallin Před 4 měsíci

    I hear you but as hard as it is to win 6 afc chips, it’s still harder to win 3 Super Bowls in 5 which is the objective. That’s goal post moving.

  • @Anthony-yu5yz
    @Anthony-yu5yz Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Dolphins, Bills, and Ravens were better teams than the Chiefs. But Mahomes is that X factor.

  • @boxican83
    @boxican83 Před 4 měsíci

    Jones is to real for this show!

  • @marcospaz2102
    @marcospaz2102 Před 4 měsíci +1

    McCoy didn’t even play in one of those games

  • @rickquesada925
    @rickquesada925 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Chiefs got this.
    Chiefs 30
    49ers 27

  • @montyellingsworth4982
    @montyellingsworth4982 Před 4 měsíci

    I think it was in the 80's that Bob Jones said something about the chiefs being a the super bowl and there would a revival...and last week I was trying to tell someone about Bob Jones saying this and when they heard the Chiefs part they said " of course " but in the 80's or early 90's or 2000's or 2010's.. the chiefs were not going to the super bowl and a few years back when they did.. if I remember right it had been 50 years for them... perhaps I am wrong but it had been a long time. What we are seeing is next level special , amazing and I wonder how much more we will see. Mahomes does have the potential to be the NFL QB GOAT.

  • @bigjermboktown6976
    @bigjermboktown6976 Před 4 měsíci +1

    They are not a dynasty. Most dynasties in the past have won three and usually back to back. That's why there hasn't been a dynasty since the 90s cowboys or the Patriots in the last 20 years. That's why it wasn't until 2004 when the Patriots won the third super bowl they were considered a dynasty

  • @chatoort
    @chatoort Před 4 měsíci +2

    Yup they win this one they become a dynasty In my opinion

  • @Danguardace17
    @Danguardace17 Před 4 měsíci

    need a back to back

  • @Mik3yLow
    @Mik3yLow Před 4 měsíci

    14:54 Uh, what? As much as I love Matheiu, dude's been upgraded. Reid, Watson, McDuffie, Sneed, this secondary is 1,000x better than that one was

  • @jasoncardoza6375
    @jasoncardoza6375 Před 4 měsíci

    A dynasty is a considerable amount of time. Honestly 10 years plus is a dynasty in football. Steelers-70s , 49ers-80s into the 90s , patriots 2000s-2018. Then again the afc is and has been a worse conference in 30 years.

  • @daltongorham6768
    @daltongorham6768 Před 4 měsíci

    Think of it like this.
    Say a team goes to 6 straight super bowls and wins 2. But they lose the other 4 super bowls in overtime on a walk off field goal and fall just short of 3.
    Now take another team who went to 3 super bowls in 6 years and won 3. But the other 3 years they went 0-17. You’re telling me that just because you win 3 makes you more of a dynasty than pure dominance over a duration of time? I think not

  • @ericbanks9286
    @ericbanks9286 Před 4 měsíci

    Shady say the same thing every time smh lls “he can’t beat Andy Reid but I love insert persons name “ 😂😂

  • @BangBang.206
    @BangBang.206 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Andy Reid went to 4 NFC championship and lost a SB with the eagles. Now he’s a great coach with the chiefs

    • @archbus
      @archbus Před 4 měsíci +1

      He would still be winless without mahomes

    • @Dannycuddy
      @Dannycuddy Před 4 měsíci

      Yup. And if Mahomes was drafted to the Niners Shanahan and Reid’s legacies would be reversed

  • @andrewfallis1269
    @andrewfallis1269 Před 4 měsíci

    Shadey - Whose been to 6 Straight AFC Championship Games and Won 4 in 5 years?...
    Like we just didn't have the Patriots go 8 Straight years, win 5. Their 4 in 5 years were 2014 season W and Ring, 2015 L against Broncos in AFC Champ, 2016 W & Ring, 2017 L in Superbowl, 2018 W & Ring 💍 not only did they get 3 Rings but played in 5 SUPERBOWLS

  • @ornettegray1164
    @ornettegray1164 Před 4 měsíci

    Stephen A Smith needs to worry about speak ya have the best SPORTS SHOW ON!!!! EVERY

  • @uwishpal
    @uwishpal Před 4 měsíci

    Her very last argument before the clip ended was the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time lol

  • @mohammadawwad839
    @mohammadawwad839 Před 4 měsíci

    Gotta win 3 rings to be dynasty. This one would do it and its a back to back too

  • @lindsaybezet3517
    @lindsaybezet3517 Před 4 měsíci

    The commentators should not be so biased. I want to hear them critiquing sports, not cheering for the team they love. I agree with Joy.

  • @line_one_up
    @line_one_up Před 4 měsíci +2

    Wait? Worst team the Chiefs have had? Their D is one of the best, if not THE best. Yeah, offense is not the same, but they still have Mahomes - best QB in the NFL. And maybe the best QB ever because he's that good.

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 4 měsíci

      they are still sleeping on the chiefs defense

  • @40PlusNewbie
    @40PlusNewbie Před 4 měsíci

    Jordan started this "general" concept with the 3peat, so yeah they need 3 so we can start the "Dynasty" convo

  • @gustavoperez8740
    @gustavoperez8740 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I used to wonder how some ex-players could not be great scouts and GMs until I listen to Shady. On the topic of are the Chiefs a dynasty, if you take Shady’s, Jones’, and Acho’s argument, you can basically apply their logic the same way participant trophies are awarded, meaning they value participating in the championship rather than winning it. C’mon, fellas. If that’s the case, why don’t we give the Bills props? I’ll tell you why. It’s because participation doesn’t count as winning. You have to win it all.

  • @damienbrown2966
    @damienbrown2966 Před 4 měsíci

    I remember when you had to win 3 championship in a row to be a dynasty. Now they handing out the title for just making it to the big game.

  • @fishykinggoat88
    @fishykinggoat88 Před 4 měsíci

    Shady still was good enough to make the team. He was already hella good in his career, so it okay that he got his rings that way

  • @mannycruz216
    @mannycruz216 Před 4 měsíci

    The Steelers won 2 out of 4 years (2005 & 2008) and the Giants won 2 out of 5 years (2007 & 2011) yet no one is mentioning them as a dynasty. They definitely need 3. If the Chiefs lose, then only winning 2 SBs after going to 6 straight AFC Championships is actually bad.

  • @cutdacheckcollector1324
    @cutdacheckcollector1324 Před 4 měsíci

    Dynasty still means 3 chips in less than 7 years. You gotta be a team of the decade and that takes three or more chips

  • @archbus
    @archbus Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dynasties are superbowl wins. And shes right. 3 or more

  • @the5THofNOV
    @the5THofNOV Před 4 měsíci

    No, they don't have to win this year to be a dynasty depending on your definition. Clearly they've been the most dominant team of the 2020's so far. With that I don't see how you don't call it a dynasty... but I still agree with Joy😍

  • @iancheshier9026
    @iancheshier9026 Před 4 měsíci

    Acho is diregarding the chiefs defense when he talks about the talent gap. The chiefs didnt even have a top 10 defense in the league in 2020 the niners had a top 5 defense in the league in 2020. This year the chiefs have the best or second best defense in the league. The niners while on paper have maybe the 8th best defense in the league in my opinion based on how theyve played lately.

  • @c.t.9277
    @c.t.9277 Před 4 měsíci

    AMen to Shady & JJones!

  • @Daspiderman3
    @Daspiderman3 Před 4 měsíci

    If we gonna say the 49ers are a mini dynasty or count it for Shannhan, then the Eagles are a mini dynasty 2 SBs in 5 years , 1 win all while having different coaches & QBs , Howie the 🐐

  • @jasonpeters9865
    @jasonpeters9865 Před 4 měsíci

    Pretty sure even Chiefs haters will remember this Kansas City run 40yrs for now!