#pokemonshowdownsalt Music: Mario Kart 64 - Rainbow Road (Soaralot Remix) [2019] Radiant Historia - The Edge of Green Sonic 2 - Emerald Hill Zone Pokemon ORAS - Zinnia Theme
What people fail to realize (consistantly) is that in a game that is inheriently luck based, creating a situation where events that benefit you are more probable is a strategy
except thats only true when your strategy has some guaranteed benefit along with a chance to perform exceptionally well. having the former is what dictates if a strategy is actually good or just a gimmick
Well yeah, because he only plays bad players. I had a Cincinno I nicknamed the 'Slayer of Gods' due to her habit of eating legendaries. Basically, Lunala was the only one she had consistent trouble with, meaning she won 30% of those fights
@@bisharppro7776 that is an incredibly skewed and inaccurate number. If it's a 40% chance for the boost to go off after a hit that means 40 out of 100 times the boosts will go through. If that's the case, then as long as you're playing it smart and safe, you should have a decent chance. Not to mention if they're bad they don't understand the metagame, let alone more obscure tactics and counters.
cythias togekiss has HUSTLE and therefore is actually trash. I like me some serene grace but i bet the developers thought 60% air slash was too much and had to take it out.
It's weird when some salty player says "No skill all luck" because there's a lot of luck involved with Pokemon. Chances of moves missing, chances of moves' second affects activating, etc
Tbf, an opponent that doesn't realize the serene grace rainbow combo would look at this as an annoying and significant 10% chance going off, even with the effects, the odds weren't in Lily's favor to activate the omni boost. A lot of people just hate luck based strategies since it often feels like hacks are at play 🤔
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Bit late to the party, but for anyone reading this in future, no. It's always supereffective type againts the other that is the end result type: fire+grass=grass+fire->fire, water+fire=fire+water->water, grass+water=water+grass->grass.
Stuff like the pledge moves being so little known is just another reason why I kinda think it's a bad idea for them to keep making every game so heavily single battles and not at least like, half doubles stuff.
I love how people forgot that water,fire,grass pledge creates unique terrain types when used in unison. The games rhey debuted in even tell you they do some things when used together
And then the game barely ever gave you the chance to double battle and find out. And that combined with Pokemon's already infamous impenetrablity means that even if you find out rainbow terrain exists, you'll never know what it does.
Ahh, this reminds me of that one team I made with speed boost M-Blaziken and Primarina using the rainbow to get fast 60% flinch rock slides. Good times
Both of those are kinda gross. Stunlocking you’re opponents’ Pokémon sounds like a great way to farm salt though. I think lily just wanted to have some silly fun boosting every stat
I never seen rainbow on terrain from pledge moves, this looks so cool Also I forgot pledge moves used in unison creates special terrain lol those moves were so forgettable
I love that you used "The Edge of Green" battle theme from radiant historia when you pulled off the omniboost baton pass to necrozma, that piece is total despair and total despair your opponent felt 😂
I didnt know what Rainbow terrain did, heck I thought the pledge gimmick died after gen 5, but I would never underestimate something I never heard of if this ever happenned to me. I also wouldnt spam legends or even play competitive for that matter so what do I know 😂
Have you ever just been living your life when suddenly, unexpectedly, Radiant Historia music starts playing, and you’re overcome by a desire to drop everything and play that game again?
Pokemon players: complains about legend spammers Also pokemon players: plays a tier where the point is that they're allowed to legend spam Like if you hate leg spammers just don't play ag or ubers
I love these vids. The edits are hilarious XD. Also I love how you explain the mechanics of the game in case viewers don’t understand what is happening. Keep up the good work! :)
I always love it when people think that just because they run a whole team of legendaries they can clap anyone then cry no skill and hax when it turns out legendaries aren't invincible lmao
0:10 hes techically right tho. diancie and jirachi are mythicals which leaves only dusk mane necrozma which is literally a fusion of 2 legendary pokemon.
@@oidorite357 They are the same thing dude. The only reason mythicals have that tag is because you only get them through events. For short legendaries are pokemon already in the game with bst of 580 or higher (Lake trio as an example of 580 and Giratina with 680) while mythicals are event legendary pokemon with 600 bst or higher with some exceptions like Spiritomb, Rotom and Zoroark, who are event pokemon but not mythicals.
Legendaries and mythicals are the same thing, in other words mythicals are legendaries. They are only tagged like that because different from legendaries (ex: Giratina, Groudon, Kyurem etc) you get them through limited events. For shorts legendaries are those Pokémon who are in the game with normally base stats of 600+ and already in the game while mythical are event Pokémon with few exceptions like Zoroark, Rotom and Spiritomb.
"thats not how the game is supposed to be played" ah yes, not losing to him, is not how its supposed to be played, it says right here on the back of the box "always lose to that guy"
Apparently nobody is going to acknowledge that Rayquaza used "V-Create", Victini's signature move, that according to my research is only on Victini, and yet the opponent calls them a hacker despite having a move impossible to get without Sketch or Copycat on a Pokémon incapable of learning the move. I have no knowledge of what Showdown allows or not, but I dont think they would allow you to casually put a move on Rayquaza that it doesn't even get a chance to learn. 2:19 for context of what I'm talking about
I didn't even know what rainbow terrain was until this video appeared in my recommended ;-; But I probably would've just asked instead of being salty and just ignoring it and calling someone a hacker-
8:12 "bg + you played like trash" You had no idea what Rainbow terrain was, he didn't get any of his ancient power boosts and you still lost. Only person who played like trash was you, "Mr. Legendary2008".
love that video so much lmao XD I got into smogon a little while ago could you or someone else drop the team and format i would really like to have some fun and learning new things !
An ability that creates rainbow terrain automatically would be a really cool ability for Ho-Oh. Both because Ho-Oh's Pokedex entries mention that it can create rainbows, and because rainbow terrain would let Sacred Fire burn 100% of the time.
What people fail to realize (consistantly) is that in a game that is inheriently luck based, creating a situation where events that benefit you are more probable is a strategy
except thats only true when your strategy has some guaranteed benefit along with a chance to perform exceptionally well. having the former is what dictates if a strategy is actually good or just a gimmick
@@shuaitailai1119🤓🤓🤓
I suck then I love gimmicky teams
Your absolutely right tho
Yeah, but showdown playerbase is toxic AF so they'll just cry about it
Honestly, that second player's reaction to the double crit was relatable. I've felt that before.
You know ita bad when the guy who doublekos is like "well that was bullshit, sorry"
fr, i was gonna lose a game yesterday till my wooper did a crit on a super effective earthquake and 1 shot a mega lucario
@@IAmGoldenBones Dam
I wouldnt know, I always only get a crit when I don't need it
@@IAmGoldenBoneswooper vs mega lucario????????
It’s funny how this first man thinks you’re “supposed” to use a full team of legendaries
what man? I only see a brat
Well yeah, because he only plays bad players. I had a Cincinno I nicknamed the 'Slayer of Gods' due to her habit of eating legendaries. Basically, Lunala was the only one she had consistent trouble with, meaning she won 30% of those fights
@@TheKyrix82Ya know this kind of teams based on luck only works 1 of 2000 times against bad players right?
@@bisharppro7776 Fortunately, Smogon is full of bad players, conditioned to follow templates instead of strategies
@@bisharppro7776 that is an incredibly skewed and inaccurate number. If it's a 40% chance for the boost to go off after a hit that means 40 out of 100 times the boosts will go through. If that's the case, then as long as you're playing it smart and safe, you should have a decent chance. Not to mention if they're bad they don't understand the metagame, let alone more obscure tactics and counters.
“Togekiss deez nuts” damn lily you savage af today.
That made me laugh tbh
More like roasted to me
IM STEALING THAT PUN, AND NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW!
*voice echoes through the known universe*
LILY HAS NUTS!?! ASDFG@#$%HJKL! LMFAO!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Arcx: Togekiss is trash.
Cynthia: So you have chosen death.
Volo:Hold My Spooky Plate
Wait... why do I hear boss music.
He Your team is garbage
Me, a Diancie: So you have chosen...METEOR BEAM TO RIP
cythias togekiss has HUSTLE and therefore is actually trash. I like me some serene grace but i bet the developers thought 60% air slash was too much and had to take it out.
@@jamesjohnston9471 tell that to her from bw2 onwards
Always funny when people have no idea what the rainbow terrain is
rainbow is g3y flag right?
Consider me one of those people xd but to be fair I don’t play doubles
pokemon have so many things dude
I didn't lol
Who tf knew that its so gimmicky
lmao at that guy acting like starters are bad despite incineroar being one of the best mons ever
But its not
@@bubblewaffle1558 it was one of the most used mons in vgc ever?
Some starters are really good for meta yeah
found the guy from the video
It's considered among the best doubles mons ever which is what comp pokemon uses.
The double omniboost into double crit is insane
Luck gods vs crit gods
1/1600 odds
Luck gives it luck takes it 😂
The double crit is insane the double omniboost really isn't with 40% chance to happen everytime he uses AP.
god giveth and god taketh away 💀
It's weird when some salty player says "No skill all luck" because there's a lot of luck involved with Pokemon. Chances of moves missing, chances of moves' second affects activating, etc
And that Lily Lost to two crits in a row
Ancient Power be like
Well they did use ancient power + Rainbow terrain so, that guy kinda has a point.
Ofc its not just luck, but a lot of it was
Lily after the double crit: "Unfortunate" does not begin to describe my series.
Yeah, as soon as luck doesn't go their way, they pull out the a-salt rifle.
"Hax alert"
When you can't admit you suck more than your opponent
Tbf, an opponent that doesn't realize the serene grace rainbow combo would look at this as an annoying and significant 10% chance going off, even with the effects, the odds weren't in Lily's favor to activate the omni boost. A lot of people just hate luck based strategies since it often feels like hacks are at play 🤔
@@homerman76Maybe don't play a luck based game then
@@homerman76
Bro pokemon is luck based itself the opponent shouldn't be salty at all
I love how cinderace became a water type after using fire pledge lol
I think the combo move was a main type water while secondary of fire so water was what Cinderace became.
Pledge move becomes the type of the one used first
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Bit late to the party, but for anyone reading this in future, no. It's always supereffective type againts the other that is the end result type: fire+grass=grass+fire->fire, water+fire=fire+water->water, grass+water=water+grass->grass.
@@bartoszmichaek1090not late at all. This is great to keep in mind. Pledges are not used that much.
@@bartoszmichaek1090what if grass+fire against flash fire would the target be immune or it would be a grass type move?
4:31 Ah yes. The destroyer of all setup strategies
Random Crits ignoring your precious defense boosts
Part of a fair and balanced breakfast
Tf2 players: First Time?
@@notshockwavedemon7543well, tbf, omni boosts are equally random
@@RandoGruntI don't even get angry anymore when I get crit. I just accept it.
Stuff like the pledge moves being so little known is just another reason why I kinda think it's a bad idea for them to keep making every game so heavily single battles and not at least like, half doubles stuff.
Especially when the competitive format gamefreak uses officially is doubles!
This is why they need to make more games like Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. Or maybe even remake them with updated types, Pokemon, and Move rosters.
@@BurstFlareThey have a couple issues but luckily Grand Colosseum and XG Gale of Darkness added lots of modern stuff as rom hacks of them.
When they introduced Doubles in Ruby/Sapphire, it blew my tiny mind. Definitely wish they'd have more of it in the main games.
They should add a colosseum in the next game. Where you can participate in tournaments against npcs or real players.
Lily after the 2nd fight: "Unfortunate" does not begin to describe my series.
I love how people forgot that water,fire,grass pledge creates unique terrain types when used in unison. The games rhey debuted in even tell you they do some things when used together
No... Gen 5 never said anything about Water Pledge or Fire Pledge
@@MelonLight222they actually told you the interactions
@@MelonLight222no it did. Just never told you what the terrains did
That's why the games need more doubles. We need a game like Colosseum or XD again.
And then the game barely ever gave you the chance to double battle and find out.
And that combined with Pokemon's already infamous impenetrablity means that even if you find out rainbow terrain exists, you'll never know what it does.
“You know togekiss is trash right”
(ismt togekiss like one of the better vgc mons)
It was before Restricted Steel types like Solgaleo and Zacian became super common.
@@Regiultima Ah thanks, I don't follow VGC that well heh
Choice Scarf Serene Grace Air Slash Cheese
togekiss deez nuts
I never knew about rainbow terrain until I found this video. This is huge!! This could open up new strategies for me. I'm so glad I found you! :O
I personally think it's not very reliable but it's a fun gimmick to catch people off guard with
How to login rainbow terrarian
Lost it at togekiss deez nuts
“Ya but 2 is a bit overkill dont u think?”
Every Incineroar Rillaboom team: 👀
Meowscarada and Skeledirge before Indigo Disk Come out:
Ahh, this reminds me of that one team I made with speed boost M-Blaziken and Primarina using the rainbow to get fast 60% flinch rock slides. Good times
you can also use this strategy for freeze hax. serene grace + the pledge boosts = 40% freeze chance
Why freeze when you get 100% para flinch lol
Both of those are kinda gross. Stunlocking you’re opponents’ Pokémon sounds like a great way to farm salt though. I think lily just wanted to have some silly fun boosting every stat
@@boredmagala5701Well, I know what I'm doing when I get my hands on this game. :trol:
It's amazing how many smogon idiots don't know how the game works. You have my respect this is a really creative and fun team
Tourists.
I never seen rainbow on terrain from pledge moves, this looks so cool
Also I forgot pledge moves used in unison creates special terrain lol those moves were so forgettable
But in like double or multi battle tower it was so fun screwing with a rainbow team with friends lol
I love that you used "The Edge of Green" battle theme from radiant historia when you pulled off the omniboost baton pass to necrozma, that piece is total despair and total despair your opponent felt 😂
"Togekiss is bad" like is this his first time playing?
probably, considering his team
That last battle was literally the epitome of Call an Ambulence!
BUT NOT FOR ME!
I didnt know what Rainbow terrain did, heck I thought the pledge gimmick died after gen 5, but I would never underestimate something I never heard of if this ever happenned to me. I also wouldnt spam legends or even play competitive for that matter so what do I know 😂
Really funny to me that the 3rd guy also had a Blastoise and then criticized you for using Incin, a famously incredible doubles mon
Also saying a hax to a GUARANTEED boost is crazy
Granted if you don’t know the boost is garunteed…
Guess bro should get good
I had never heard of rainbow terrain before . It’s rare I learn something about Pokémon . So I’m pretty happy to see this video
Have you ever just been living your life when suddenly, unexpectedly, Radiant Historia music starts playing, and you’re overcome by a desire to drop everything and play that game again?
I literally NEVER run into people who talk like this online, and yet every Poketuber posting battles seems to find them for every video they post.
I had never even heard of Rainbow Terrain before this!
Amazing job as always!
"no skill" from a legendary spammer is always a juicy bit of hypocrisy
6:45 The Minecraft death effect when Ho-oh faints it perfect. 😂
Pokemon players: complains about legend spammers
Also pokemon players: plays a tier where the point is that they're allowed to legend spam
Like if you hate leg spammers just don't play ag or ubers
First person with a brain in the entire comment section
I just don't know the different tiers is Ubers just Pokemon in the teir that can be used and if so it's not the type of all be all for it right?
I never knew that was a thing! That’s so cool!
It was introduced in gen 5 but it didn't get much attention because of how much else also got introduced in gen 5.
I love these vids. The edits are hilarious XD. Also I love how you explain the mechanics of the game in case viewers don’t understand what is happening. Keep up the good work! :)
I love the use of ancient power, iron head & air slash with 40% chance. Togekiss can also learn tri attack to add to shenanigans lol
I never saw rainbow terrain before, I got so excited when I saw it for the first time!
I've always wondered what a rainbow team would be like... now I know!
"Hey Blastoise, it's pride month. Do you know what that means?"
Just now seeing these and they are funny and good lol. Also love how you used Radiant Historia music at 1:32, the Edge of Green!
that editing is AMAZING LOL. great video!!
I'm honestly ashamed I didn't know all of the pledge move effects until now
I literally just used a team centered around this in Scarlet/Violet, and YT recommends me this. Amazing!
What a awesome calculation you did sir hats off to you, and I never thought that oh-ho and angry birds look alike.
I really love all the memes you put, really funny ^^
I'm loving your editing. Making me want to start Pokémon battling too, but I'm like 8 generations behind at this point lol
I always love it when people think that just because they run a whole team of legendaries they can clap anyone then cry no skill and hax when it turns out legendaries aren't invincible lmao
Really nice editing, earned my subscription 😁
You have earned my sub this day. Thank you for this beautiful thing
First guy calling the rainbow gay isn't wrong
Great editing once again. Keep it up!
Clicked on video bc I had no idea what Rainbow terrain was. This was fun as heck, thank
I learned about rainbow terrain from this video. I might have to try it now. lol
0:10 hes techically right tho. diancie and jirachi are mythicals which leaves only dusk mane necrozma which is literally a fusion of 2 legendary pokemon.
Mythicals are legendaries tho so nop.
@@enrithomas7194 No, mythicals are mythicals
@@oidorite357 They are the same thing dude. The only reason mythicals have that tag is because you only get them through events. For short legendaries are pokemon already in the game with bst of 580 or higher (Lake trio as an example of 580 and Giratina with 680) while mythicals are event legendary pokemon with 600 bst or higher with some exceptions like Spiritomb, Rotom and Zoroark, who are event pokemon but not mythicals.
@@enrithomas7194 Ok, then how come mythicals and legendaries were distributed through different events if they're the same?
And I'm pretty confident they made it clear that both groups are distinct from one another, regardless of stats.
"No skill, just luck."
"Then why am I outplaying you, Darren?"
The will slap had me dying that's do good
Aren't Jirachi and Diancie considered mythical pokemon?
The edits are clean as hell, btw.
It would still be wrong because then solgaleo would be the only legendary in the team,this guy is just stupid
Legendaries and mythicals are the same thing, in other words mythicals are legendaries. They are only tagged like that because different from legendaries (ex: Giratina, Groudon, Kyurem etc) you get them through limited events. For shorts legendaries are those Pokémon who are in the game with normally base stats of 600+ and already in the game while mythical are event Pokémon with few exceptions like Zoroark, Rotom and Spiritomb.
@@enrithomas7194 Probably the best way someone could've explained that. Thank you, I genuinely had no clue lol
Zoroark Rotom and Spiritomb are NOT Mythical
1st time ove seen rainbow terrain. Gotta say I love it! GG!
"your team is autsitc, you are too"
that show that autism isn't just a trouble, it can also be an advantage
He simply couldn't handle the Uber Instincts
Guzzlord being in the cute pokemon team suprised me and then i died
That guy Arcx6 totally deserves it.
The editing in your videos is so good.
I love this team. I underrstand very little other than legendary spam is bad and this team you have is awesome. So cool.
What I love about this is that we have one of the good people who knows their stat boosts
Seemed like pretty legit Pokémon battles to me. lmfao!! GG!!
I love watching people react so visceraly to baton pass
I never have seen any of your videos but I must commend you for your music choice at 1:27, excellent song
I love this channel it just proves you don’t always has to use teams full of legendaries and mythicals 😂
"thats not how the game is supposed to be played" ah yes, not losing to him, is not how its supposed to be played, it says right here on the back of the box "always lose to that guy"
Cool track from radiant historia in the background
I only just learned yesterday that the Pledge moves set up some special terrain, then see a video finally utilizing one lol.
That critical hit was brutal and very lucky for your opponent
Apparently nobody is going to acknowledge that Rayquaza used "V-Create", Victini's signature move, that according to my research is only on Victini, and yet the opponent calls them a hacker despite having a move impossible to get without Sketch or Copycat on a Pokémon incapable of learning the move. I have no knowledge of what Showdown allows or not, but I dont think they would allow you to casually put a move on Rayquaza that it doesn't even get a chance to learn.
2:19 for context of what I'm talking about
V-Create was an event move on Rayquaza in Gen 5 (from Japan's 15th Anniversary poll).
Your content is so fire!!
I didn't even know what rainbow terrain was until this video appeared in my recommended ;-; But I probably would've just asked instead of being salty and just ignoring it and calling someone a hacker-
8:12 "bg + you played like trash"
You had no idea what Rainbow terrain was, he didn't get any of his ancient power boosts and you still lost. Only person who played like trash was you, "Mr. Legendary2008".
love that video so much lmao XD I got into smogon a little while ago could you or someone else drop the team and format i would really like to have some fun and learning new things !
Dondozo+totsugiri: look what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power
"USELESS ASS YVELTAL"
My brother in Christ, YOU built the team.
Oh I lost it! 😂😂 Good one! He walked right into it! TOGE-KISS DEEZ NUTZ 😂 GOT EM!
The Togekiss line was pure gold!!!🤣🤣🤣
How legendary spammers feel when they say "No skill just luck": 😎
Damn, the Radiant Historia ost really caught me off guard. What a throwback.
An ability that creates rainbow terrain automatically would be a really cool ability for Ho-Oh. Both because Ho-Oh's Pokedex entries mention that it can create rainbows, and because rainbow terrain would let Sacred Fire burn 100% of the time.
What an amazing video, lol, the memes are on point. Love seeing my songs on great videos
Love your edits 😂👌
I was surprised about the rainbow terrain. Didnt know that was a thing.
Togekiss deez nuts took me out lmao, great counter play
The togakiss Deez nuts remark was absolute gold. You stay classy out there lol
The Radiant Historia OST was a nice touch
*Due to fusing technically Lily is using 3 legends, and its always funny for rainbow*
I havent seen that Sniper Quick Scope thing in a Very long time
I love the brave bird edit with angry birds😂
Which form of double battle is this? I’m trying to figure it out so I can try your build but I can’t find a gen 8 national Dex doubles :(
Also the people that use full legendary teams who call teams garbage and think they know the game like the back of there hand
"Togekiss Deez Nuts!" I'm dying. xD
holy shit i almost died laughing at that second game
I had no idea that the pledge rainbow actually DID something! I thought it was just a neat little effect!