Same, some black girls on section 8 housing took advantage of me and said the order was never delivered. Because of them I will not deliver to low income areas. Because of them I fear low income housing and it sucks for the people who are legit but Im looking out for me and the company I represent. All uber eats orders I accept are only in nice neighborhoods from now on wether UE, DD or GH. I need to protect my income. End of story, call me a racist I dont care but I got a mortgage to pay and bills and animals to feed.
He is one greedy dude, but what is greed? Its really the fear of not having enough. Ill bet that dude doesnt tip the starbucks for a mocha LOL. Tony must live in ''fear'' because wtf does any human on earth need that kinda money for?
The people at the top are just taking all of the profits until they inevitably have to go out of business. That’s why they cite “labor costs” as the reason for not making profits. They are talking about their own labor costs 😂
Wait till they change all the areas to Dasher Rewards instead of Top Dasher. No more Catering Orders unless you have a 70 AR, 95% Completion Rate, a 4.7 Customer Rating and 100 deliveries in last 30 days, aka Platinum Status.
@@fixed92 Suppose so LOL. I am scheduled for 10-12hrs a day, my AR is from 20-64 on avg only taking orders I mostly want . I multi app a bit but I am not good at dirty apping. I swear it seems like DD changes how the map lays out from north, south, east, west. So when I take that order at night going home I am really not going home and I end up in the hood (really pisses me off). The other night I ended up in an area where people have been shot and just tonight I heard a gun shot picking up chicken wings for a customer. There were 2 cop vehicles parked outside the restaurant and after I grabbed the wings the cops were gone, assuming they went to investigate the gun fire. I made it home tonight.
Well then I won't work for them unless and still will decline most orders. Sometimes they get desperate and need a reliable driver for big order because the top cards are on a 2 dollar order
But when they do that, some boot licking republican is there to tell them they should be grateful to have a job and that if they don't like it they should work somewhere else.
Dasher just sent me a notice saying they reset my completion rate to a 100%. Because their new policy starting March 7th is going to increase the Minimum completion rate of 80% to 90%
If they make a drastic cut in pay, they will have a driver shortage. So what they do is walk it down, little by little over time, so that the drivers who quit over lower pay are always replaced by new drivers. It's a scheduled plan of pay reduction. I earned $8.80 hour last year in a $12 hour minimum wage state, & the pay is still going down. They rely on desperate people. When the desperate give up & quit, there's a new batch of desperate to exploit. The pay will keep going down until deliveries aren't being made. Only then will pay plateau. Whatever you earn now, it will be less next year.
Right same thing but there is an easy solution just stop doing it simply its not worth it. Instead get a part time minimium wage job to increase your income or a full time minimum wage job if you don't have a job. I picked up a part time mcdonalds job and make way more money doing that then doordash and no wear and tear on my car.
I'm going to go ahead and say that the labor increases are probably legit because more people are doing earn by time instead of getting paid by customers with tips.
Why dont you make a video of just ordering things, coming from the consumer. They have promos of 30% off all orders sometimes. Thats why Im seeing stupid orders for 2 cans of pop, 2 bags of chips or even a order of just 1 cupcake muffin lol I ordered groceries for cheap and left a 10 dollar tip for an illegal to come pick it up
Like any job, they don't have to pay, because half the population is doing it and there will *always* be someone who needs it enough to take the worst orders.
Where are they spending their money? Mostly dashers. Payroll tend to be the most expensive component of a business even if it is exploitive, just due to the sheer amount of employee most business need. That and real estate, but it's unlikely DD pays much of that. Marketing, for vast majority of real companies, are ranked third, usually between 5 and 15 percent for a B2C business. DD probably spend a bigger percentage due to a smaller real estate slice(a shrink in real estate will mean a proportional increase in everything else, including both marketing and payroll) An increase in revenue and expense is expected with scaling up of any business. In fact, it should be expected for revenue, expense and volume to be increasing at the same rate. That is health and hurts nobody(well, not any further, if the workers are exploited, they'd be exploited in the same way still, not any worse). What is telling, however, is the increase in net revenue margin, that's more or less the profit--the money that they are *not* spending. If that's going up, that means someone (other than owner/shareholder/exec) is getting boned. Also, for this particular business model, oversaturation of workforce is a problem for the workers. It doesn't make a huge difference either way to the company or their numbers, but will affect the income of each individual worker. This also plays into the payroll expense bit, paying workers more overall have no concrete relationship with how much each individual worker get paid. Twice the worker, 75% of the pay is still a 50% in payroll expense. Yes, stuff like dash pass can potentially hurt the workers, especially if the company's take rate (net revenue margin) isn't decreasing. Because if the customer is benefiting, then someone is hurting, and if it's not the company.... That said, while dash pass (and equivalent) purportedly waive delivery fee, it is unclear if that's actually true. They always charge a service fee, the purpose of which is unclear. For all we know they could have split delivery fee into two parts, one part waived if you have the pass, the other as a component of the service fee. Furthermore, the amount purportedly charged/saved does not necessarily represent the actual cost of service. It is possible those without the pass are subsidizing the delivery cost of those with it by being hit with an inflated delivery fee. That would also make the pass even more appealing. Another thing to keep in mind is that DD and other such service do *not* need to make much money from the customer, they also take a large slice from the restaurant (which might be passed to the customer via inflated price indirectly, but the point is that the "fee" is not the only income). So focusing solely on the customer side payment structure is unlikely to arrive at the correct conclusion. There might be some correlation, but it isn't directly causal. Unfortunately, a lot of things would require a lot more data and closer look to be really known. The only thing that's really telling in this report is the net revenue margin, an increase in that is rarely a good sign for the employees (or customers, in some cases). Besides that, nothing is inherently good or bad.
Folks im a Dasher and of course I would like higher base pay just like everyone else, but the harsh reality is these companies owe us absolutely nothing, and they uave no reason or motive to raise our pay. If you're not happy with the opportunity you have to make some type of money "yeah believe it or not this is an opportunity" then stop complaining and do something about it!
Wall Street is in NY and it's a huge market. Just about the biggest in the country. So it stands to reason that would be a big part of how the stock market reacts. Your perspective needs to take that into account or you're just preaching the sky is falling and not telling the whole story.
Speak for yourself. My pay is going up and I'm getting better orders every week. I also don't decline the majority of offers like half the content creators and whiny people.
Amen! The ones who “claim” that are the biggest whiners and the illegal immigrants finally seeing 4 dollar orders instead of the 2.00 they usually accept and make 40 bucks after 8 hrs
I have finally made the decision to officially leave DoorDash after the end of May is over. I may just do it before if it keeps being so aggravating however I do make my goals almost all the time I go and I never work more than 4 hours a day, however I ONLY work Fri thru sun because I use this as just a side hustle for savings! God bless anyone who has to work more often and anyone who can’t bow out by June like myself however I CANNOT wait! I am tired of the ENTIRE DoorDash driver crap, including the customers! This shit is for the birds and the illegal immigration’s who take all the 2 dollar orders and make 40 bucks after 8 hr shifts! Godbless them tho!
Dasher pay will NEVER go up unless the number of dashers goes down.
Yep I quit a year and half ago,it was good during COVID but that's it
All the people crossing illegally crossing the border are now dashers. Sad
We are short drivers most of the time, but we are flooded drivers from 530-8pm. To many part timers.
They will continue to hire anyone with a pulse
Yup. Im in Texas and the amount of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that have crossed the border that are now dashers is downright embarrassing.
@@isaidit4720it is absolutely pathetic
I'm new dasher it's been 2 months and already got reported by a customer the food never arrived . Some customers are so mean
Yeah I hate when they do that
Same, some black girls on section 8 housing took advantage of me and said the order was never delivered. Because of them I will not deliver to low income areas. Because of them I fear low income housing and it sucks for the people who are legit but Im looking out for me and the company I represent. All uber eats orders I accept are only in nice neighborhoods from now on wether UE, DD or GH. I need to protect my income. End of story, call me a racist I dont care but I got a mortgage to pay and bills and animals to feed.
I'm sure if more drivers actually listen to these earnings calls we would get somewhere with these protests
Or scare customers from ordering from big corp
Tony Xu also made 414 million last year, that's where the money went
What about evan moore
He is one greedy dude, but what is greed? Its really the fear of not having enough. Ill bet that dude doesnt tip the starbucks for a mocha LOL. Tony must live in ''fear'' because wtf does any human on earth need that kinda money for?
Luckily I do this as a part time, it’s still trash though.
Man what a deal. $2.00 an order and beat the shit out of my car. Real good job.
The people at the top are just taking all of the profits until they inevitably have to go out of business. That’s why they cite “labor costs” as the reason for not making profits. They are talking about their own labor costs 😂
No, they're just running a smart business. The issue is that everyone who isnt ordering, is delivering. Driver supply exceeds delivery demand.
They're hoarding all that money and acting like they don't have sh!t.
Decline %95 of offers is the answer and stack their orders with other apps. Treat their orders like trash unless it's high pay catering
Wait till they change all the areas to Dasher Rewards instead of Top Dasher. No more Catering Orders unless you have a 70 AR, 95% Completion Rate, a 4.7 Customer Rating and 100 deliveries in last 30 days, aka Platinum Status.
Yep! F DoorTrash!
@@fixed92 Suppose so LOL. I am scheduled for 10-12hrs a day, my AR is from 20-64 on avg only taking orders I mostly want . I multi app a bit but I am not good at dirty apping. I swear it seems like DD changes how the map lays out from north, south, east, west. So when I take that order at night going home I am really not going home and I end up in the hood (really pisses me off). The other night I ended up in an area where people have been shot and just tonight I heard a gun shot picking up chicken wings for a customer. There were 2 cop vehicles parked outside the restaurant and after I grabbed the wings the cops were gone, assuming they went to investigate the gun fire. I made it home tonight.
Well then I won't work for them unless and still will decline most orders. Sometimes they get desperate and need a reliable driver for big order because the top cards are on a 2 dollar order
Stop working for them, go on strike, and demand higher pay to do the job
But when they do that, some boot licking republican is there to tell them they should be grateful to have a job and that if they don't like it they should work somewhere else.
Seattle also upped driver pay. I predict $1 base pay by end of 2025 and no extra on stacks.
Dasher just sent me a notice saying they reset my completion rate to a 100%. Because their new policy starting March 7th is going to increase the Minimum completion rate of 80% to 90%
is that just in the USA or is that around the world🌎 because it sucks in my area im part time and really considering taking a break
Then quit if you hate DoorDash so much! Stop crying!
I will never work for doordash ever again
I only go out when they offer promos and so should everyone else. Only way to increase pay when less dasher are on the road when it's not offered
If they make a drastic cut in pay, they will have a driver shortage. So what they do is walk it down, little by little over time, so that the drivers who quit over lower pay are always replaced by new drivers. It's a scheduled plan of pay reduction. I earned $8.80 hour last year in a $12 hour minimum wage state, & the pay is still going down. They rely on desperate people. When the desperate give up & quit, there's a new batch of desperate to exploit. The pay will keep going down until deliveries aren't being made. Only then will pay plateau. Whatever you earn now, it will be less next year.
Right same thing but there is an easy solution just stop doing it simply its not worth it. Instead get a part time minimium wage job to increase your income or a full time minimum wage job if you don't have a job. I picked up a part time mcdonalds job and make way more money doing that then doordash and no wear and tear on my car.
I'm going to go ahead and say that the labor increases are probably legit because more people are doing earn by time instead of getting paid by customers with tips.
Its like a drug. Jordan Peterson has a great video talking about gig jobs and the reward system in our brains.
The gamification of gig economy...
Link ?
Just saw you in Nick Whites stream on Kick
Why dont you make a video of just ordering things, coming from the consumer. They have promos of 30% off all orders sometimes. Thats why Im seeing stupid orders for 2 cans of pop, 2 bags of chips or even a order of just 1 cupcake muffin lol I ordered groceries for cheap and left a 10 dollar tip for an illegal to come pick it up
And this is why their stock just dropped by 6.25%?
Time to take action Zanza Bee
How do i get my account reactivated its deactivated for low completion rate
Off topic but is he actually ginger?
Why ?
Yes
Its lowest bid
He was talking about higher pay in new york city..
Don't be fooled.. Big city.. They won't even let you get 1 active hour per 8 online hours.
Dashers don't make $ over saturation
Like any job, they don't have to pay, because half the population is doing it and there will *always* be someone who needs it enough to take the worst orders.
which is why I do primarily uber eats
What market you in? my UE market is crap
Where are they spending their money? Mostly dashers. Payroll tend to be the most expensive component of a business even if it is exploitive, just due to the sheer amount of employee most business need. That and real estate, but it's unlikely DD pays much of that. Marketing, for vast majority of real companies, are ranked third, usually between 5 and 15 percent for a B2C business. DD probably spend a bigger percentage due to a smaller real estate slice(a shrink in real estate will mean a proportional increase in everything else, including both marketing and payroll)
An increase in revenue and expense is expected with scaling up of any business. In fact, it should be expected for revenue, expense and volume to be increasing at the same rate. That is health and hurts nobody(well, not any further, if the workers are exploited, they'd be exploited in the same way still, not any worse).
What is telling, however, is the increase in net revenue margin, that's more or less the profit--the money that they are *not* spending. If that's going up, that means someone (other than owner/shareholder/exec) is getting boned.
Also, for this particular business model, oversaturation of workforce is a problem for the workers. It doesn't make a huge difference either way to the company or their numbers, but will affect the income of each individual worker. This also plays into the payroll expense bit, paying workers more overall have no concrete relationship with how much each individual worker get paid. Twice the worker, 75% of the pay is still a 50% in payroll expense.
Yes, stuff like dash pass can potentially hurt the workers, especially if the company's take rate (net revenue margin) isn't decreasing. Because if the customer is benefiting, then someone is hurting, and if it's not the company.... That said, while dash pass (and equivalent) purportedly waive delivery fee, it is unclear if that's actually true. They always charge a service fee, the purpose of which is unclear. For all we know they could have split delivery fee into two parts, one part waived if you have the pass, the other as a component of the service fee. Furthermore, the amount purportedly charged/saved does not necessarily represent the actual cost of service. It is possible those without the pass are subsidizing the delivery cost of those with it by being hit with an inflated delivery fee. That would also make the pass even more appealing. Another thing to keep in mind is that DD and other such service do *not* need to make much money from the customer, they also take a large slice from the restaurant (which might be passed to the customer via inflated price indirectly, but the point is that the "fee" is not the only income). So focusing solely on the customer side payment structure is unlikely to arrive at the correct conclusion. There might be some correlation, but it isn't directly causal.
Unfortunately, a lot of things would require a lot more data and closer look to be really known. The only thing that's really telling in this report is the net revenue margin, an increase in that is rarely a good sign for the employees (or customers, in some cases). Besides that, nothing is inherently good or bad.
find a real job people, or a real business. doing these app job is no freedom , u have to work certain times n weekends. this is worse than w2 😅.
I thought you quit dashing 😂…..
Folks im a Dasher and of course I would like higher base pay just like everyone else, but the harsh reality is these companies owe us absolutely nothing, and they uave no reason or motive to raise our pay. If you're not happy with the opportunity you have to make some type of money "yeah believe it or not this is an opportunity" then stop complaining and do something about it!
Wall Street is in NY and it's a huge market. Just about the biggest in the country. So it stands to reason that would be a big part of how the stock market reacts. Your perspective needs to take that into account or you're just preaching the sky is falling and not telling the whole story.
Invest in DD stock
Short dd buy uber
Go on strike. Who cares. The owner already made so much money of you Dashers that it’s actually funny at this point.
Speak for yourself. My pay is going up and I'm getting better orders every week. I also don't decline the majority of offers like half the content creators and whiny people.
oh shut up! Ain't nobody believing that crap lol
@@isaidit4720 the last 2 weeks have been my best dashing weeks ever. I'll send receipts if you want
Amen! The ones who “claim” that are the biggest whiners and the illegal immigrants finally seeing 4 dollar orders instead of the 2.00 they usually accept and make 40 bucks after 8 hrs
I have finally made the decision to officially leave DoorDash after the end of May is over. I may just do it before if it keeps being so aggravating however I do make my goals almost all the time I go and I never work more than 4 hours a day, however I ONLY work Fri thru sun because I use this as just a side hustle for savings! God bless anyone who has to work more often and anyone who can’t bow out by June like myself however I CANNOT wait! I am tired of the ENTIRE DoorDash driver crap, including the customers! This shit is for the birds and the illegal immigration’s who take all the 2 dollar orders and make 40 bucks after 8 hr shifts! Godbless them tho!
You say your pay is getting worse mine is getting better
Don't depend on this to make you tich