That's why I won't touch Marvel or DC comics there are just so many versions of the same character and it's hard to keep track with all of them not to mention that Marvel and DC reset their universes so many times throughout the years so why bother
Superman 1mill is not part of the lore, it's a glorified what if fan fiction. Without a weakness struggles Superman is as bland as an isekai protagonist. That's why Superman tas if so great.
@@alexbenitez7399 nah dude, manga is outselling comics by an insane degree. In the states. Yeah, in the states. DC and marvel have seen massive drop offs while last two years manga sales in the states have gone up 170 percent... Yeah. They are absolutely taking inspiration heavily from manga and anime in American comics. Cause they have to try something. They are not even making money anymore. Being kept afloat by merch sales and the movies.
@@ImTheMan0fSteel well avengers forever isn't that bad. Doubt it'll sell even close to your basic manga but by a storytelling standpoint it's one of the last comics that care more about the story then some shitty political message. Thor God of fists is personally my favorite rendition of the character. (Issue 7 thor God of fist dropped last month August 24th 2022)
@@duncannslade the world needs balance. Too many hyper fanboys will create hate on their own. Nobody disliked Bats until it started getting ridiculous.
@@dbearded130I don't get that hate for a fake person he's not real why are people trying to say what ge can't do. When his training to become batman was MASSIVELY unrealistic he literally became a master of all martial arts, a expert mechanic, a genius scientist, a master detective, a monk, a top level pilot, and a therapist all before the age of 30 he did all that in his 20s when he was traveling the world. People stop batman is super human with Emphasis on the human.
ClassicD literally had a video explaining that Batman did not help Superman and in fact helped World Forger make it worse for Superman just so he can be proven wrong. Just saying. It is sad how Superman can defeat tough enemies and somehow Batman has to get credit for it. Superman even calls out Batman for betraying him.
Beta Superman Hater: “Easily defeated by kryptonite” Superman: *fought kryptonite infused doomsday* *one shotted World Forger* Alpha Superman Enjoyer: “Where would you get kryptonite if Batman was on Superman’s side”
@@unoreverse130 you just reminded me of this one animation where is the Justice League trying to decide who should be the leader of the Justice League and Batman says that kryptonite isn't even rare anymore this purse Snatcher I caught last week had three of them
@@flashrunner2689 hey yes it was the only thing they did not mention was that Wonder Woman can be easily defeated by being restrained by literally anything I'm dead serious by the way because the Joker was about to kill her while she was restrained with a common regular rope
Speaking of Batman, how this nigga taking hits from Superman and people still saying he need prep time? He literally has feats against Superman multiple times
I think alot of the issue is superman is only as capable as the writer handling him. I remember a time when ivy got em with spores you know the guy who can move and react stupid fast
I mean this can apply to pretty much any marvel or dc character one momment batman is dodging darksides lasers who can tag even superman next he's just barley dodging bullets
@@justsomeguyontheinternet7134 exactly that's what I was trying to convey that these characters have been through so many shows and comics alot of fans who haven't seen em all have very different mental pictures of the characters. As an example I didn't know super man prime was a thing
@@goreobsessed2308 yeah it all depends on the person writing the comic and to be honest with you I didn't even know who the fuck the world for divorce either or who the hell Superman Prime was
I agree DC and Marvel power scaling is bullshit actually fuck it don't even bring into power scaling because those characters are all over the place in power and to quote stan lee the winner is who the writer wants to win and unfortunately we have too many writers bad ones at the least
@@CRAZYSUPURS_FR yeah but I kind of want to see him get exposed to Pink Kryptonite if you don't know what that does it make him gay Too much exposure will turn him into a female
@@ByrnethedestroyerStill better than Batman taking off his black underwear, wrapping it around his face, and using it to fall from orbit while taking ZERO damage.
I don't know if I can guarantee you in each different comic he was less and less affected by kryptonite which kind of irritates me a little bit going to be honest
I'm going to be completely honest with you I stop reading a good majority of the Marvel and DC Comics because it's like they get reset it so many times and there's so much to keep up on that I just couldn't take it anymore so I stopped giving a fuck about the comics except certain ones and to be honest with you I don't even mess with Superman like that anymore
@@pablohernandes4027 lol 😂 it seems you never picked up a comic😂for example can you compare she Hulk in the comics to the nonsense and idiotic Disney plus show???? Yh I thought so
@@pablohernandes4027 dont get me wrong some movies are cool but you saying this is a complete disrespect 😂 cuz even the producers at mavel knows that comics is the life of the show
@@dam-silver those movies are the only thing keeping marvel and dc alive. Remember when a single manga out sold the entire comic book industry. Comics are trash lol
The writer determines the winner. that being said: there are so many versions of every super hero both in marvel and DC it's hard for the avid reader of the comics to keep up.
@@alexbenitez7399 that's the thing though, Throughout all of marvel and DC there have been a few resets of both respective universe's. Do I read the current version that's out and will get reset in a years time or Is looking at old source material as reliable information in a "who would win" argument. Superman, for example, has versions of him where a small rock of kryponite can disable his powers and in other versions he can lift a mountain of the stuff. It can just be confusing when there are so many versions of the same character that have the same weakness but is either seemingly not affected by it or is immediately crippled by being near it. As I said in my first comment, the writer determines the winner.
@@gabrielreyes4932 I mean you could just look up a reading guide that tells you all of that. Like in rebirth everything from post crisis to flashpoint happened and that’s how it’s been ever since. Marvel doesn’t have reboots so it’s a continuing story.
I’ll never understand how one alien race is capable of all this shit with no training and by just using stars to charge them up they’re able to beat god like beings
@@Dalek15 might have to give it to shido his ability are too good even though Issei can not only boost himself but weaken his opponents I still give it to shido
This is scary when u realize that if he can do that by sitting in the sun, imagine what would happen to the Infected Superman from DCeased that ALSO flew into the Sun.
@@shaftcity5842 so true this is why I like anime and manga better I don't give fuck if people say comics are stronger they are only saying it to make themselves feel better in a childish dream in a world where we don't need a superman like figure but just men doing the right thing
I'm going to be honest with you. As powerful as All Fiction is the power even under Medaka who puts Abilities at 110% (yes 110%) of their effectiveness couldn't use it to undo the injuries they sustained against a certain person. She even admitted to using it directly on the individual but nothing. Unless Kumagawa can somehow undo the concept of a Stand then sure, maybe he can win. But GER might screw him over on an attempt, key word is might in this situation. Because if GER has existence erasure resistance then he'll have the upper hand. Sure, Kumagawa has Bookmarker, he can physically weaken him to win the fight but that's just physically. Stands are another story, we've seen stands do things their hosts can't do, so Bookmarker won't be doing much. Kumagawa also can't see a Stand, so he won't even see anything coming. However, Kumagawa has admitted to reading manga, so chances are JoJo manga exists in Medaka Box so he may have outsider knowledge.
@@rashawnbrown4262 Kumagawa is from the manga called Medaka Box. He doesn't appear until around early-midish into the manga. Giorno if it wasn't picked up in my explanation is from JoJo. I do suggest watching all the way until his season as you do come to further understand most stands along with where his stands in the series. Although reading the manga is fine too. But in Kumagawa case manga is your only choice as he only has a canon ova anime wise to give the concept of his power BUT NOT THE LIMITATIONS. Which is where people tend to overhype him without mentioning.
Im really glad when you do debates you stick with the feats of 1 version of the character. It gets tiresome when people use multiple version if the same character to explain why they could beat someone else.
I’m just saying, I hate Superman because of how broken and op he is. Now I will say I like Goku because he builds up to being basically a god but this dude is just ridiculous.
But that's the whole point, isn't it? In my opinion, the best superman stories aren't the ones where he has to fight the biggest baddest villain ever who's super strong and the most evil guy around or smth, it's the ones where he has to deal with human problems. A superman story, in my opinion, should always be more about a god trying to live amongst mortals more than just a straight up battle
Yeah but that's the reason why superman is only used during universe ending threats, you never see him fighting a low level villain you see him fight literal gods. Also all Goku did was do a few pushups and yell really loud let's not act like he had to do much to get his powers and I like Dragonball.
Superman was so outlandishly powerful in the OG material that they literally had to rewrite the universal structure of DC comics to make up for how powerful he was. Like he had so many powers he basically was thanos on acid. Mf had too many powers for the writers to even remember.
Why do we keep bringing this man up in fights. Even if there is someone who can beat him, Dc will just make so Superman becomes even stronger Than that person. While also making him homosexual and gender neutral apparently 🥴
I’m late too this but, that last part applies to his actual son Jonathan Kent, but I can’t blame you, even as an avid Superman Fan, I find it hard to keep track of their continuity.
The issue with Superman and Kryptonite is how inconsistent he is. At one point he could move an island of kryptonite and then at another point a block of kryptonite has him on his knees. That's why I think when having these conversations you should talk specifically about what version of Superman you're doing. Like Brave and the Bold is a more subdued Batman then some of the ones that pull gadgets out of their butts and have crazy feats that don't even make sense. So I don't think it's that people don't understand how resistant he is to Kryptonite rather he has been inconsistent about his resistance for a long time.
I like that the question is specific. My problem with so many of these anime and comic arguments is that they never specify what state the character is in
Goku is close second on the inconsistency meter. Mf can send ripples through the universe, survive attacks that would kill a God of Destruction, moved through stopped time, and held the weight of black hole, but gets one shotted by a laser gun. In Z, he fights beings who can casually blow up planets, gets hurt by a rock being thrown at him lmao
@@icebearnicho8256 oh absolutely but imo no one can beat superman when it comes to being inconsistent. Some stories he can fight krytonite powered doomsday and in the following story only a little rock is needed to knock him to his knees. He pulls powers from no where and then they disappear completely.
See but my one problem with Superman is the fact that his feet are inconsistent because this man can go from being able to defeat Kryptonite infused enemies to losing to a guy who just holds it or a Kryptonite bullet
@@loganboyd6609 I can't find it but remember it can hurt him but he's able to power through it if he wants. He didn't another video on superman misconceptions you should watch it
World Forger is literally a complex multiversal being who created multiple multiverses, and Superman one shotted him because of Sun. Superman officially has the most plot armor and bs pulls in the history of fiction.
There's a reason behind why Superman is that strong and why Superman gets such a big power up from the sun ,Read doomsday clock. Superman doesn't have the most plot armour and bs pulls in fiction
@@vn9574 What about him? Current day Superman is more powerful than him,Even in the silver age it's established hoe Superman's story is so powerful and why he always triumphs.
'-' my problem is with superman his weaknesses is basically the slang for every weaknesses for every other character and yet that weakness some how no longer works on him Superman is Mary sue and I will die on that hill
One thing that bugs me about comics is the inconsistency between each version. One author makes Superman a God that transcends mortality, meanwhile another writes him to be weak enough to be beaten by Harley Quinn or something. Yeah, Goku is weaker than many versions of Superman, but at least he is written by one man and remained somewhat consistent (except bullshit reasons like being damaged by a bullet).
I mean yeah, but Superman also has some of the best stories in comics to balance it out. Like "All-Star Superman", "What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?", "Superman vs the Elite", and more. He's got some schlock, but he's got some great stuff too.
Yeah that's nonsense. What you mean to say is that you don't like Cosmic Stories, which is fine. The entire point of them is being weird and crazy space stuff that doesn't really matter. But it has nothing to do with strongest heroes and everything to do with the weird metaphorical stuff that was probably the result of drug use at the time. XD
Honestly I kinda feel sad but happy for superman 1million because he got to recreate his home world and his wife in a more perfect body able to handle his own body too
The thing with Superman prime 1mil. is, that as far as Im aware, he has no actual feats on screen. Could have changed, since I haven't read up about it, since a while, but really from what I know, it's just scaling from other versions of Superman, with which I have no problem
He made it back cause batman moved the suns in the exact way to give him a chance to make it while distracting the forger..... the slander on batman giving the set up is insane
I want you to make a video on fate characters mfs are outversal, can erase not existence but entire concepts and have crazy weapons that are the embodiment of something.
I kinda hate superman at this point, there's never any stakes when he's involved because of all his bs. His one weakness is more of an inconvenience at this point and whenever he's packed into the most cornery corner like that world forger situation, he just pulls some bs outta his ass and still wins. He is the kid on the playground who keeps upping his power as the game goes on to be slightly stronger than the other kid who still bothers playing with him
Kinda glad the person who made the suggestion _specified_ the version he was talking about. Because a BUNCH of people would use Prime 1 Million's feats to justify their Vs Debate claim
Superman has a vulnerability to magic and a Kryptonite Weakness but those are not as crypling and some seem to believe, the dude is a fucking OP guy who can one-shot almost everyone
Imagine not knowing all the Superman lore, and getting destroyed in an argument.
That's why I won't touch Marvel or DC comics there are just so many versions of the same character and it's hard to keep track with all of them not to mention that Marvel and DC reset their universes so many times throughout the years so why bother
you brain dead for commenting this
@@ssj4182 That’s reasonable. I just read Spider-Man and manga.
@@sagecious4906 the only comic series I'm reading is the idw tmnt series, best version of tmnt in my opinion lol
Superman 1mill is not part of the lore, it's a glorified what if fan fiction. Without a weakness struggles Superman is as bland as an isekai protagonist. That's why Superman tas if so great.
That was the most anime punch in a American comic I've ever seen
Comics have become more and more like anime and manga over the years. Cause they are getting wrecked by it. Badly.
I wouldn't expect less from a dude who once pulled several planets on a massive chain.
@@ImTheMan0fSteel not really it’s more they are taking influence from each other
@@alexbenitez7399 nah dude, manga is outselling comics by an insane degree. In the states. Yeah, in the states. DC and marvel have seen massive drop offs while last two years manga sales in the states have gone up 170 percent... Yeah.
They are absolutely taking inspiration heavily from manga and anime in American comics. Cause they have to try something. They are not even making money anymore. Being kept afloat by merch sales and the movies.
@@ImTheMan0fSteel well avengers forever isn't that bad. Doubt it'll sell even close to your basic manga but by a storytelling standpoint it's one of the last comics that care more about the story then some shitty political message. Thor God of fists is personally my favorite rendition of the character. (Issue 7 thor God of fist dropped last month August 24th 2022)
Superman Prime 1m: Accidentally BREATHES too hard.
World Forger: Anyways I started dying
Lmao
Forger:"attacks whit all his might"
1M:sorry i didn't focus,when did we start to fight?
I'm glad he mentioned the Kryptonite thing, it isn't even a weakness anymore, it never really was.
It is when the plot demands it.
As far as I know, currently it just allows regular weapons to break through his skin. Which is meaningless considering how fast he regenerates.
Yes....it was
We not gonna act like he didnt almost die a few times from that thing
Not that much anymore, no, but it used to be almost like mustard gas to a human
Tbh, it depends on the writer
To be fair to Bats, he had faith in Supes breaking out and littered the space with little suns for him to exploit.
No no, it's more important we focus on hating Batman at every chance.
Batman suck
@@duncannslade the world needs balance. Too many hyper fanboys will create hate on their own. Nobody disliked Bats until it started getting ridiculous.
@@dbearded130I don't get that hate for a fake person he's not real why are people trying to say what ge can't do. When his training to become batman was MASSIVELY unrealistic he literally became a master of all martial arts, a expert mechanic, a genius scientist, a master detective, a monk, a top level pilot, and a therapist all before the age of 30 he did all that in his 20s when he was traveling the world. People stop batman is super human with Emphasis on the human.
ClassicD literally had a video explaining that Batman did not help Superman and in fact helped World Forger make it worse for Superman just so he can be proven wrong.
Just saying. It is sad how Superman can defeat tough enemies and somehow Batman has to get credit for it.
Superman even calls out Batman for betraying him.
Superman : Dude I'm just getting started
Beta Superman Hater: “Easily defeated by kryptonite”
Superman: *fought kryptonite infused doomsday* *one shotted World Forger*
Alpha Superman Enjoyer: “Where would you get kryptonite if Batman was on Superman’s side”
Yeah at one point they decided to round up all the kryptonite so villains can't get it and they found out its not as rare as they thought it was
@@unoreverse130 you just reminded me of this one animation where is the Justice League trying to decide who should be the leader of the Justice League and Batman says that kryptonite isn't even rare anymore this purse Snatcher I caught last week had three of them
@@Fallout4277 bro i watched that, that video was spitting straight facts
@@flashrunner2689 hey yes it was the only thing they did not mention was that Wonder Woman can be easily defeated by being restrained by literally anything I'm dead serious by the way because the Joker was about to kill her while she was restrained with a common regular rope
Speaking of Batman, how this nigga taking hits from Superman and people still saying he need prep time? He literally has feats against Superman multiple times
That image of Superman jumping through the sixth dimension looks sick! I’m pretty sure the afterimages around him are his past and future selves!
Those are his son and adopted Father
@@hadesthereaper8980 - Pa Kent will lend you these hands if you mess with his son
Super(Boy) Prime: "Am I a joke to you!?"
Superman 1 Million: "Yes."
Cosmic armor “no cause a joke would at least be fun your are boring “
Yes lmao
Soupman: both of y'all are boring
(Btw Soupman is what Dark Side call Superman)
Nope I aint gonna fight superman
I think alot of the issue is superman is only as capable as the writer handling him. I remember a time when ivy got em with spores you know the guy who can move and react stupid fast
I mean this can apply to pretty much any marvel or dc character one momment batman is dodging darksides lasers who can tag even superman next he's just barley dodging bullets
@@justsomeguyontheinternet7134 exactly that's what I was trying to convey that these characters have been through so many shows and comics alot of fans who haven't seen em all have very different mental pictures of the characters. As an example I didn't know super man prime was a thing
@@goreobsessed2308 yeah it all depends on the person writing the comic and to be honest with you I didn't even know who the fuck the world for divorce either or who the hell Superman Prime was
Yeah, even Prime 1M has gotten hoed before.
Stop the cap. Batman helped clark on that event. Don't call him a douche.
The Agenda trumps all sane analysis.
That superman doing the punch with his dad and son is like the coolest fucking comic panel i have ever seen
I know,right. Came in here looking for this comment lol
I'm not even close to being a fan of Superman, but even I know and have no problem admitting that Prime One Million stomps in most fights/comparisons.
That makes two of us I'm not really a fan of Superman but I'm not afraid to admit he would stop in most fights unless he's fighting kumagawa
I agree DC and Marvel power scaling is bullshit actually fuck it don't even bring into power scaling because those characters are all over the place in power and to quote stan lee the winner is who the writer wants to win and unfortunately we have too many writers bad ones at the least
Everyone and their nan has kryptonite but he still wins
Yeah unless it's golden kryptonite and yes that is an actual thing there are so many variants of kryptonite
@@Fallout4277 exactly my point. Bro
@@CRAZYSUPURS_FR yeah but I kind of want to see him get exposed to Pink Kryptonite if you don't know what that does it make him gay Too much exposure will turn him into a female
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Superman gets slightly more resistant to kryptonite every time he gets exposed to it.
If that's true, it's dumb as hell. Not on you tho.
That is a huge possibility to consider actually
@@Byrnethedestroyer Well I guess we still have the red sun as backup, though its slower.
@@ByrnethedestroyerStill better than Batman taking off his black underwear, wrapping it around his face, and using it to fall from orbit while taking ZERO damage.
@@scottsommer9843Because He's Batman
Imagine supes just shows up and flicks the world forger in the forehead and he just goes fucking flying
Out of curiosity, how many comics of Superman has been done by different writers?
According to Wikipedia: about 34.
A billion. Why?
A couple thousand
I don't know if I can guarantee you in each different comic he was less and less affected by kryptonite which kind of irritates me a little bit going to be honest
Best one was by John Byrne.
This is so accurate, it's so surprising how people downplay sups, well it seems no one read comics accurately anymore 😥❤️😥
I'm going to be completely honest with you I stop reading a good majority of the Marvel and DC Comics because it's like they get reset it so many times and there's so much to keep up on that I just couldn't take it anymore so I stopped giving a fuck about the comics except certain ones and to be honest with you I don't even mess with Superman like that anymore
Cause comics are trash now and have been for a while
@@pablohernandes4027 lol 😂 it seems you never picked up a comic😂for example can you compare she Hulk in the comics to the nonsense and idiotic Disney plus show???? Yh I thought so
@@pablohernandes4027 dont get me wrong some movies are cool but you saying this is a complete disrespect 😂 cuz even the producers at mavel knows that comics is the life of the show
@@dam-silver those movies are the only thing keeping marvel and dc alive. Remember when a single manga out sold the entire comic book industry. Comics are trash lol
That moment with Superman flying through the suns was so hype. I don't remember the last time I had that much hype reading a comic
The reason why superman doesn't seem powerful sometimes is because he holds back so much.
And also considering the fact that there's about 34 Superman Comics each one being written by a different a writer
Tooootally holding back when he got KNOCKED OUT by a tanker truck exploding. Totally. Had to pretend that shit hurt cause... reasons.
Superman gets dogwalked by Spongebob.
Depends on which superman cause Super man prime should win
The writer determines the winner.
that being said: there are so many versions of every super hero both in marvel and DC it's hard for the avid reader of the comics to keep up.
I mean not really like just read the main version it’s not like there’s that many series with characters from other universes.
@@alexbenitez7399 that's the thing though, Throughout all of marvel and DC there have been a few resets of both respective universe's. Do I read the current version that's out and will get reset in a years time or Is looking at old source material as reliable information in a "who would win" argument.
Superman, for example, has versions of him where a small rock of kryponite can disable his powers and in other versions he can lift a mountain of the stuff. It can just be confusing when there are so many versions of the same character that have the same weakness but is either seemingly not affected by it or is immediately crippled by being near it.
As I said in my first comment, the writer determines the winner.
@@gabrielreyes4932 I mean you could just look up a reading guide that tells you all of that. Like in rebirth everything from post crisis to flashpoint happened and that’s how it’s been ever since. Marvel doesn’t have reboots so it’s a continuing story.
@@gabrielreyes4932 there’s literally never been a reboot in the history of marvel and dc has only been rebooted once.
@@alexbenitez7399 bro even those guides just prove how complicated it is.
I like it better when his weaknesses are actually a weakness instead of slight inconvenience
bro spent 30$ on something that he could’ve looked up
Superman is that kid that goes, no I cancel your power to cancel powers....
Bro they may as well just get rid of his weakness to kryptonite because he’s always somehow overcoming those weaknesses
I’ll never understand how one alien race is capable of all this shit with no training and by just using stars to charge them up they’re able to beat god like beings
And they say batman got the most plot😂😂😂
Attempt 5 to ask for Shido Itsuka from Date a Live vs Issei from Highschool DXD
Does shido he get all power from his harem
@@Darkflame1423 yeah, it's only fair with Issei's boost ability
@@Dalek15 might have to give it to shido his ability are too good even though Issei can not only boost himself but weaken his opponents I still give it to shido
@@Darkflame1423 that’s cause everyone he fights is a weemen XD
Ln spoilers
D infinite D
I find hilarious how people do not know how overpowered superman is.
Its becaues its so stupid that its hard to beleve
The WB movies did that....
"Had help from this douche." Had me laughing way to hard.😂😂😂
Generational Superman punch got me hyped af
This is scary when u realize that if he can do that by sitting in the sun, imagine what would happen to the Infected Superman from DCeased that ALSO flew into the Sun.
That got resolved in the newer issue of DCeased I'm not gonna telly ou how because I don't want to spoil but yeah
Superman is as strong as the plot needs him to be
same with the Flash
One reason to critize the horrible writing in DC
@@agsdragon5475 exactly they can’t scale there own characters
@@shaftcity5842 so true this is why I like anime and manga better I don't give fuck if people say comics are stronger they are only saying it to make themselves feel better in a childish dream in a world where we don't need a superman like figure but just men doing the right thing
Because Superman is the definition of we have to keep escalating and ret conning for things to just get more exciting
That superman punch with his son and dad there was a top 3 supes momen ever
"We are more than we can ever imagine"
Okay I sent in multiple requests but like I would love for you to do Giorno Giovanna and ger vs kumagawa
Holy shit thats a good one but it should be kumegawa. Unless giorno giovanna can remove powers and so far that hasnt happened
I'm going to be honest with you. As powerful as All Fiction is the power even under Medaka who puts Abilities at 110% (yes 110%) of their effectiveness couldn't use it to undo the injuries they sustained against a certain person. She even admitted to using it directly on the individual but nothing.
Unless Kumagawa can somehow undo the concept of a Stand then sure, maybe he can win. But GER might screw him over on an attempt, key word is might in this situation. Because if GER has existence erasure resistance then he'll have the upper hand.
Sure, Kumagawa has Bookmarker, he can physically weaken him to win the fight but that's just physically. Stands are another story, we've seen stands do things their hosts can't do, so Bookmarker won't be doing much. Kumagawa also can't see a Stand, so he won't even see anything coming.
However, Kumagawa has admitted to reading manga, so chances are JoJo manga exists in Medaka Box so he may have outsider knowledge.
Alright you guys made this sound interesting what anime/ comic you refering to where do i start
Kumagawa.
@@rashawnbrown4262 Kumagawa is from the manga called Medaka Box. He doesn't appear until around early-midish into the manga.
Giorno if it wasn't picked up in my explanation is from JoJo. I do suggest watching all the way until his season as you do come to further understand most stands along with where his stands in the series. Although reading the manga is fine too. But in Kumagawa case manga is your only choice as he only has a canon ova anime wise to give the concept of his power BUT NOT THE LIMITATIONS. Which is where people tend to overhype him without mentioning.
Superman is THE epitome of a borong character
Tries to claps on people not knowing about superman while not knowing about superman yourself... Very logical🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
What did Batman do to make him call him a douche?
So if he's powered by the sun is superman a plant
And gokus a Disney princess he has the magic hair, talking animal friends, and was saved by a big strong man
@@unoreverse130technically ki isn’t magic but I see your joke
Im really glad when you do debates you stick with the feats of 1 version of the character.
It gets tiresome when people use multiple version if the same character to explain why they could beat someone else.
Imagination that is why people hate Superman because the writers keep coming up with crazy s***
Ah i see your a superman fan boy that why you don't like batman now it all makes sense
think its more of a running joke atp
@@Painbodyy idk man i think he's just a superman fan boy
Ok and? Like do you know the amount of Batman fanboys who do the same for Superman?
Day 1 of asking for superman vs wally west
Bro capping on Batman so much it’s crazy 💀
That shot of Supes charging his punch with his son and his dad looks so fucking cool
Opinion on soul eater?
I’m just saying, I hate Superman because of how broken and op he is. Now I will say I like Goku because he builds up to being basically a god but this dude is just ridiculous.
But that's the whole point, isn't it? In my opinion, the best superman stories aren't the ones where he has to fight the biggest baddest villain ever who's super strong and the most evil guy around or smth, it's the ones where he has to deal with human problems. A superman story, in my opinion, should always be more about a god trying to live amongst mortals more than just a straight up battle
@@charliehigginson7990 spoken like a true fan 👍
Bro Superman does the same he didn’t start with all that power like sure he’s stronger than the average but he could get whooped by all his villains.
Glad Dragon ball fans are realizing what we knew all along Supe's bodies Goku
Yeah but that's the reason why superman is only used during universe ending threats, you never see him fighting a low level villain you see him fight literal gods. Also all Goku did was do a few pushups and yell really loud let's not act like he had to do much to get his powers and I like Dragonball.
Super man has the ultimate weapon............... plot armor
Everyone does
Superman was so outlandishly powerful in the OG material that they literally had to rewrite the universal structure of DC comics to make up for how powerful he was. Like he had so many powers he basically was thanos on acid. Mf had too many powers for the writers to even remember.
Why do we keep bringing this man up in fights. Even if there is someone who can beat him, Dc will just make so Superman becomes even stronger Than that person.
While also making him homosexual and gender neutral apparently 🥴
I’m late too this but, that last part applies to his actual son Jonathan Kent, but I can’t blame you, even as an avid Superman Fan, I find it hard to keep track of their continuity.
Me watching Superman also get beat by Atomic Skull who at best is Planetary.
That Superman wasn’t supercharged by 6 suns
People forget superman's greatest power. Multiple authors who'd rather jump a billion sharks than let superman lose a fight he reasonably should lose.
The issue with Superman and Kryptonite is how inconsistent he is. At one point he could move an island of kryptonite and then at another point a block of kryptonite has him on his knees. That's why I think when having these conversations you should talk specifically about what version of Superman you're doing. Like Brave and the Bold is a more subdued Batman then some of the ones that pull gadgets out of their butts and have crazy feats that don't even make sense. So I don't think it's that people don't understand how resistant he is to Kryptonite rather he has been inconsistent about his resistance for a long time.
Of course sup 1 mil wins. The guy literally ressurected planet krypton and everyone in it.
How strong is Superman?
Me: Well let’s look at how crazy the writers decided to make him this time
I wonder which Yu-Gi-Oh! villain would be considered the craziest in both the anime and manga
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I like that the question is specific. My problem with so many of these anime and comic arguments is that they never specify what state the character is in
I love that you're getting paid to answer easy questions and one sided fights
I guess Chris didn’t read that comic huh?
This like a John Wick meme situation
Prime Superman: *breathes*
World Forger: *starts sweating*
Nah he breaths dudes getting his entire gene pool erased
He spent 30 bucks to be called ignorant
When you said quintessence my mind went to the quintesson from transformers 😂
Superman the most inconsistent superhero to ever come into existence
Goku is close second on the inconsistency meter. Mf can send ripples through the universe, survive attacks that would kill a God of Destruction, moved through stopped time, and held the weight of black hole, but gets one shotted by a laser gun. In Z, he fights beings who can casually blow up planets, gets hurt by a rock being thrown at him lmao
@@icebearnicho8256 oh absolutely but imo no one can beat superman when it comes to being inconsistent. Some stories he can fight krytonite powered doomsday and in the following story only a little rock is needed to knock him to his knees. He pulls powers from no where and then they disappear completely.
See but my one problem with Superman is the fact that his feet are inconsistent because this man can go from being able to defeat Kryptonite infused enemies to losing to a guy who just holds it or a Kryptonite bullet
He hasn't though at least not in comics
@@godhimself688 yes he has
@@loganboyd6609 please tell me which one cause I don't remember
@@godhimself688 catwomam shot him and damn near killed him
@@loganboyd6609 I can't find it but remember it can hurt him but he's able to power through it if he wants. He didn't another video on superman misconceptions you should watch it
One thing I noticed is that any time a question like this pops up he always says the loser first or gives information about the winner
possibly most balanced fight you could actually do is superman vs ben ten
World Forger is literally a complex multiversal being who created multiple multiverses, and Superman one shotted him because of Sun. Superman officially has the most plot armor and bs pulls in the history of fiction.
There's a reason behind why Superman is that strong and why Superman gets such a big power up from the sun ,Read doomsday clock. Superman doesn't have the most plot armour and bs pulls in fiction
@@davidjones1341 Then what about Silver Age Superman?
@@vn9574 What about him? Current day Superman is more powerful than him,Even in the silver age it's established hoe Superman's story is so powerful and why he always triumphs.
@@davidjones1341 SA Superman literally has bs pulls every single time. Whatever ability you can think of, he can do it.
@@vn9574 He does have various abilities but his attack potency and Destructive capabilities aren't a match for current supes
'-' my problem is with superman his weaknesses is basically the slang for every weaknesses for every other character and yet that weakness some how no longer works on him Superman is Mary sue and I will die on that hill
That's why I hate characters like Superman, either make the character grow from weak to op or write fun op characters like one punch man
Can u do ghost rider vs Anti monitor
One thing that bugs me about comics is the inconsistency between each version. One author makes Superman a God that transcends mortality, meanwhile another writes him to be weak enough to be beaten by Harley Quinn or something.
Yeah, Goku is weaker than many versions of Superman, but at least he is written by one man and remained somewhat consistent (except bullshit reasons like being damaged by a bullet).
Holy shit the strongest heroes have usually the worst stories. Essentially boils down to two kids saying “but my heroes power is infinite+one.”
I mean yeah, but Superman also has some of the best stories in comics to balance it out. Like "All-Star Superman", "What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?", "Superman vs the Elite", and more. He's got some schlock, but he's got some great stuff too.
Yeah that's nonsense. What you mean to say is that you don't like Cosmic Stories, which is fine. The entire point of them is being weird and crazy space stuff that doesn't really matter.
But it has nothing to do with strongest heroes and everything to do with the weird metaphorical stuff that was probably the result of drug use at the time. XD
Love the videos tho btw.
Things DC Fans should know: Kryptonite only works 100% of the time when Batman uses it
Superman is SUPER for a reason dammit!
Superman prime is literally a god!
Honestly I kinda feel sad but happy for superman 1million because he got to recreate his home world and his wife in a more perfect body able to handle his own body too
The thing with Superman prime 1mil. is, that as far as Im aware, he has no actual feats on screen. Could have changed, since I haven't read up about it, since a while, but really from what I know, it's just scaling from other versions of Superman, with which I have no problem
man just casually gets mad at batman in the middle of a superman video then moves on.
Hey, Batman knew superman would come out of it alright
He made it back cause batman moved the suns in the exact way to give him a chance to make it while distracting the forger..... the slander on batman giving the set up is insane
As a superman fan, its always fun to bust out 30 reasons why base superman stands a shot against whoever they say can beat him 😂
I want you to make a video on fate characters mfs are outversal, can erase not existence but entire concepts and have crazy weapons that are the embodiment of something.
I kinda hate superman at this point, there's never any stakes when he's involved because of all his bs. His one weakness is more of an inconvenience at this point and whenever he's packed into the most cornery corner like that world forger situation, he just pulls some bs outta his ass and still wins. He is the kid on the playground who keeps upping his power as the game goes on to be slightly stronger than the other kid who still bothers playing with him
Kinda glad the person who made the suggestion _specified_ the version he was talking about. Because a BUNCH of people would use Prime 1 Million's feats to justify their Vs Debate claim
He flew through a lot more that six suns
Superman 1 mil literally created his own universe... Its no contest.
Prime one mill could sneeze and bro would disintegrate
This dude got a vendetta with Batman
Imagine not knowing the entirety of Dc and marvel lore and getting destroyed in an argument against someone with 20k hours in both?
Well if there a normal person they go on their way. At the end of the day sups is only as strong as tge writer says he is
I am currently in an argument om spongebob SquarePants vs wally west
Dude super man is the Mary Sue of male superheros
Superman prime logo looks like the Safeway logo
Superman has a vulnerability to magic and a Kryptonite Weakness but those are not as crypling and some seem to believe, the dude is a fucking OP guy who can one-shot almost everyone
Prime one millions superman symbol looks like the safe way logo lowkey
Can you do Devil Man vs Yujiro Hanma?
The venom to Batman is real. 😂
Superman 1 million is doing worldforger the way dr Manhattan did rorschach.
Superman Prime 1 million: *exists*
Batman stans: "BuT BuT BuT, BaTmAn WiNs wItH pReP tImE!!!!"