If memory serves he studied air bending before he got his powers which is why he masted it so quickly and he fought Aang so he had experience fighting air benders but still lost
@@Spherrum exactly A fully trained and complete avatar is very hard to kill And especially if its aang And people think zaheer could actually do anything to him?!!! No His best shot is to kidnap a baby avatar Also zaheer is the worst character in Lot Right behind the earth bitch and korra herself
@@RorikH both of you are buggin hard af Zaheer was hands down the best villain in LOK. Zaheer is honestly the only reason me and most people say season 3 is the best. Zaheer and his crew CARRIED season 3 without breakin a sweat
@@EnderDraconix Oh no, I think Zaheer is awesome too. Korra had a serious problem with power creep/one upsmanship (Vaatu, the giant robot) and it was nice to have a group of villains who were just really skilled and unusual benders, amd pretty interesting characters as well.
Here's my avatar hot take: The fire nation was the least suited to world domination and that's clearly seen in the fact that they relied on machines more than bending. If the water tribes put even a quarter of their effort into their navy that the fire nation did they'd have an invincible navy and conquer every port city and settlement crippling the economy of the other nations, which would be especially devastating for an island nation like the fire nation. No fortification would defend you from earth benders tunneling under your city and collapsing your buildings, and I think it says a lot that the earth kingdome has the most territory. Lastly the air nomads would be the only faction with an air force basically combining the mobility threat of water tribe navy and the fortification threat of earth bender tunnelers. Fire bending despite how it's presented in the show in my opinion has the least effective military applications.
@@troljynx9953 Lightning bending is weak for all the reasons we _think_ lava bending is weak and visa versa: The avatar bending community has tricked itself into believing lava bending is weak because it's slow when in reality in the it's presented with the same speed as water benders. While at the same time it provides similar defensive capabilitys as water benders and unlocks ineradicable construction and building potential for utility purposes. Yes lightning bending is considered an instant kill but it's got a crazy charge up time and the lightning is slow enough for people to reposition themselves after it's been shot. Unlike lava bending it has no use outside of attack and a source of energy, which can easily be provided in other ways. If you want an awesome combat only fire sub bending type, go for combustion bending.
You know when you put it that way you bring up a lot of good points. It really does say a lot about how skilled and genius Ozai was as an administrator that he made the most out of his land's natural resources and firebending to turn the nation into a world power. That said I think the Water Tribes would be a naval power while the Earth Kingdom all around would be a super power.
Airbending was already shown to be used in aggressive fighting... Monk Ioso hand at least 10 firebender bodies around him when he died. Meaning he killed thing with most likely airbending. Not all airbenders was a practicer of pacifism. Avatar Yangchin , the previous airbending avatar, and monk Ioso being of note. Aang was so stern to pacifism based on being The last Airbender. He believed he had to be the perfect Airbender in every way to preserve his heritage. Ziaheer already studied airbending history, techniques, philosophies for years before being even in prison. He wouldve basically been a air acolyte that gained the airbending. Idk if it was stated if he went against aang at one point but the only living airbending master, Tezin, mid-low diffed him. From the actual airbending we've seen, Tezin/aang had the best showings of airbending
Ya its reasonable to say that Zaheer knew of tenzins techniques and style prior to their fight, and even so tenzin still handed him his ass with little effort. Tenzin was indeed superior.
I mean zaheer did learn in two weeks but he studied airbending for years prior. That's like studying the laws of physics for years on end and then going a 2 week long marathon of applying years of knowledge.
Wasn’t that essentially what happened in King fu Panda. Po had studied martial arts for years but never did any actual trading. He eventually managed to surpass 5 masters in less than a year. Granted in the 3rd movie it was revealed pandas had an affinity for chi cit rom which could have had something to do with it but I don’t think that was planned when they made the first movie.
Lethality in air bending is a slipper slope imo. Honestly, it's like waterbending vs bloodbending. Bloodbending does psychological damage to anyone who uses it for prolonged periods of time, it hurts their mind and corrupts them. Now this is an actual, magical side effect to using this power. However the same principal can apply to using air bending as a lethal art. Such as having the power to legit just pull the air from someones lungs at a moments notice. It's incredibly powerful... And with that power, it corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely after all. It is a more practical, usable art sure. But the reason Air Nomads practiced pacifism was so they didn't become warlords and conquer the world. You saw what even a master pacifist could do to a room full of firenation soldiers in the first Avatar when Aang found his old master. It's just a matter of not giving everybody free reign to become conquerors and unchecked soldiers as opposed to defenders.
tbh pulling air out of someones lungs still requires the person to be kinda incapacitated or cant fight back like the queen of the earth kingdom didnt have any bending so she couldnt fight back and kora had just gotten her whole ass beaten and couldnt really fight back anymore. other than that i agree. also anthor reason for that being is since air nomads are peaceful most people wouldnt have any experience fighting one.
@@coolchrisable It's really not that hard to do it from a sneaky angle or put enough distance between you and your target and just spam it until they get winded. We see there's no real cost to bending for long periods of time unless it's actively stressful work, like holding up the tower and Toph doing it on sand. It wouldn't be hard to knock an opponent off their feet and then use your airbending to yoink the air from their lungs.
@@mythicalthings1796 true but from how we see it in the show it requires alot of consentration and time even iuf you knock them off their feet they can still get back up and we dont know the range of the attack to do it
@@coolchrisable I'd imagine range is pretty far considering air is in no short abundance, same with earth. And someone would still have to spend time and energy getting up and if you're already pulling air from their lungs then they're expending more energy, and therefore more oxygen.
Traditional bending was based on various Chinese martial Arts. Airbending was based on "circle-walking" (baguazhang), a martial art focused on redirecting an opposing force rather than meeting it with force of your own. The problem with strict adherence to a particular style in martial arts is that it often excels in doing one thing very well at the expense of sacrificing skill in other areas.
I will say that Tenzen vs Zaheer was probably my favorite fight in TLOK. To see an airbending master vs a prodigy like Zaheer and beat his ass singlehandedly was so satisfying. When the other red lotus members joined in and ganged up on Tenzen I had mad respect for him for still putting up a fight despite the huge disadvantage and sheer will to save his loved ones.
Sorry dude. This is the only video I disagree with you. You also kinda excused the dudes lost to Tenzen because he only had his powers for 2 weeks yet you described the type of people he beat. But when he actually faced a master air bender dude took an L and you automatically excused it for lack of air bending training. Don't get me wrong he's a really good air bender , creating his own moves and stuff but are we going to forget some of the air benders left fire Nation soldiers in the ground before dying out? Example monk gyaso (can't spell his name off the top of my head) had bodies laid out before probably being overpowered by them. Air bending is about being smart and cunning but they doesn't mean a cunning person can't use lethal attacks. You really dropped the ball with this one man.
Of course he excused it. He had it for TWO weeks. It's like studying basketball all of your life and being a natural but expecting to beat Lebron James when you've been playing for two weeks. It's just not going to happen that way. Also Monk Gyatso is probably a pretty good airbender, at least that's how I view him. Your average airbender wouldn't be killing sozin comit bufed firebenders like that. People have also theorized that he sucked all of the oxygen out of the room killing everyone there. Getting out alive is one thing but if you're that much powerful than your opponent, you don't need to kill yourself in order to take them out. Zaheer is incredibly impressive to taking on people who have lived with bending their entire lives. Tenzin has been using air-bending his whole life lol
@@machinaowl910 I'm sorry but you can give him a century of training in his style of Airbendending and he still wouldn't beat a 12 year old aang or any master Airbender
I always thought that air bending would be very dangerous in the hands of non pacifist’s in the show. Example one being mei who would be able to throw her knifes at bullet speeds maybe giving her the ability to surpass azula and tai lee who’s speed and agility would let her run through armies. It’s legitimately the peaceful nature of the airbenders that was there downfall.
Lok benders are more along the lines of mma that is about practicality and daily life. Atla benders are more along the lines of traditional martial arts that involves the mind just as much as the body. MMA is more brutal and lethal and uses a more effective and efficient approach combat than traditional martial arts.
Zaheer vs Tenzin was him walking into that boss fight with all the confidence of a man who just learned a second level fire spell and then fleeing with all the confidence of a man who just learned Genocidicles the Soul Flayer is immune to magic
Not necessarily. In order to fly an Airbender has to let go of earthly attachments. However because aang was the avatar he could never let go of earthly attachments since it would interfere with his duties. Personally I think aang is better but zaheer was more aggressive.
@@Lazyguy143 Aang is wayyyy better idk why its a question lol. He would wash Zaheer even as a kid. Zaheer is not a master airbender. He can fly because he gave up earthly tethers, but his bending ability doesnt even come close to child Aang.
Doesn't it just depends on what you're using it for? Before he was announced being Avatar he never had a need for violence till the others taught him how to fight. It all depends how you use your tools cause in the end the victor is whoever pulled it off better.
I think of mix of these 2 styles would be really effective. Like don't get me wrong aggressive action and lethality is all fine and good but evasion does have a purpose.
Aang as a child stopped a lava wave with airbending, kicked giant flaming rock apart etc. He is lethal as hell, he just chooses not to be. Reducing the style of bending to how willing they are to kill is basic and takes away so much from what it is. Bending is a phylosophie and lifestyle not just to fight
Honestly a balance of both would be good, which both Aang and Zaheer should have learned from their other ends of the stick, Overall yeah, in a decisive fight the lethal style is more efficient
The world of Avatar is gonna change the moment shockwave bending is invented. Explosions without fire, attacks faster than sound, combustion bending would pale in comparison. It would be like creating concussive blasts like Cyclops. Soldiers in WWII were dying in hospitals after surviving bombing raids because although the explosions were over, the shockwaves ruptured their organs and killed them from within. And what if they uncover sonic attacks? Imagine the weapon Stane paralysed Tony with in Iron Man 1. Now imagine being able to skill into it and never need a device for it. Finally, with engineering and technology progressing from historical looking times to the early 20th century with planes, how long before they unlock supersonic flight without planes, maybe just an advanced enough suit. I'm not talking Iron Man technology, just a suit that can sustain a bender under supersonic conditions
You say zaheer was better but he was getting that was whooping hard by tenzen. Tenzen out classed him in nearly every regard and only lost because he got jumped in the end by the whole red lotus
I believe he would use a combination of both, as he's actively trying not to kill the villains while at the same time being absolutely brutal and ruthless.
I think the new Airbending styles work more for the newer generation of Airbenders and Zaheer is because they've adapted it to current bending styles. In LoK, the unique bending styles change to be more of an MMA style that allows benders to be light on their feet at all times. We see when Korra first launches an earth disk, she uses traditional earthbending stances and technique and has good power, but Bolin points out that her stances leave her open for to attacks, and teaches her a probending stance instead. We see it with probenders as well, a lot of them hold themselves in similar ways to minimise openings that would occur if they used more traditional stances. So this new version of Airbending is more adaptive to the current and modern bending styles that focus a lot more on offence and counter attacks. However, both Tenzin and Aang are traditional Airbenders. We see the nuances in the difference to their styles in Tenzin and Zaheers fight. Tenzin's form relies far more on the agility and acrobatics of the traditional Airbending methods. We see this when Zaheer and Tenzin scale a wall, Zaheer uses the air to boost his jump while Tenzin uses an air spiral to boost him up. Because of the direction of current bending in LoK, a lot of movements deemed unnecessary are forgotten in favour of more straightforward approaches, but this also takes away from the apparent nature of Airbending, in that it's meant to be adaptable and fluid, changing on a whim to find the path of least resistance. While Zaheer and to extent some of the modern Airbenders are all agile in themselves and capable of finding the path of least resistance, they lack the agility and acrobatics of the previous Airbenders and the ability to change your course of action on a whim. Tenzin was in control against his fight with Zaheer because Zaheer forgot one of the fundamental rules to Airbending in that it's a defensive end adaptive style of bending. However, that's not his fault as I've stated earlier, all bending styles of LoK focus on being more offensive and fluid to minimise wasted movement and allow for more attacking opportunities. Personally, I think Aang and by extension the Tenzin and the air nomads prior have a better Airbending style because it allows them to more readily adapt to their opponents movements and attacks and exploit in weakness or openings that may be present with a strong counter attack. That's just my opinion tho
the thing is. as an air bender monk (Aang timeline) you know how dangerous air can be. why he and the other monks are so passive. if Aang cut loos like he would be as dangerous if not more than zaheer
Pretty sure Zaheer studied air bending for years prior to him attaining it plus it’s obvious that since he was a non bender prior that he was an elite martial artist and it’s likely that he kept his original hand to hand style and simply added air bending to it. Tho there’s no doubt that he’s a prodigy to some extent.
Adore your vids! I like each and everyone to try and trick the algorithm into showing me every single one you send out but sorry, bro. Tenzin bodied 3 red lotus members by himself and they'd face airbending before. His style wasn't just new, it was largely ineffective. The new style for the different elements was a logical evolution but it wasn't designed for large scale war.
Respectfully saying this, but I think art of lethality is needed vs using air bending in a defensive measure by dodging wearing down an opponent over time. Only cuz I much agree, defensive tactics are highly arguable methods. Lethal is literally ways to help protect yourself better, and depending on how you both view, and utilize air bending teachings could be potentially used like how Zahere used the teachings. Not just in self defense or lethally in a bad situation, but literally have the potentially to legitimately fly without manipulation of air. Instead your riding on air, or using the atmosphere of your surroundings be your way to fly. May I also add don't have to rely on tools, or machines to fly lol.
He still got his ass dropped by Tenzin who logically is only equal at best to 12 y/o Aang in terms of Airbending mastery. By the end of Book 3 Aang was able to easily overpower Zuko with an air blast.
Where the hell do you get the idea that Tenzin is equal to a 12 year old Aang? There is no way in hell Tenzin doesn't easily surpass Aang in airbending at least in that point in his life.
@@clevernickname7998 nah aang is still better at air bending considering this is the avatar and you cant match the power of the avatar tenzin is good but still not as great as aang hell if he was still alive he would probaly be able to fly
@@justsomebody5450 Aang could fly with fire bending, but not like Zaheer because he would have to cut ties with everyone he loves, which is something Aang couldn't do. I'm sure Aang was better in his prime, but I can't imagine a 12 year old Aang beating an experienced master of Tenzin's caliber without at least hitting puberty first.
@@clevernickname7998 Aang was literally considered a master of airbending even before he froze in ice, its the reason he has the blue arrows on him, its a sign of mastery
Hmmm. You know. At first i wanted to go with Water Bending to counteract my inability to swim. But now i realize, if i Earth Bend...i don't have to worry about going in the water. Just be floating on a chunk of land and or metal
It isn’t which style is better it’s who’s a better practitioner, can’t nobody deny during that a one on one with tenzin an actual air bending master zaheer got washed. They needed to jump mans. Also zaheer may have just woken up one day with AB but let’s not act like he didn’t have a shit ton of training previously.
I’d argue he had the power of plot on his side was all. He was good because he studied air bending in books for years which I find a load of crap. If I studied martial arts for a decade with no actual practice I’m not about to just throw down with mma, Donnie yen and Jackie Chan like they’re nothing. I’m going to get thoroughly beat. I never understood how people hate season 2 and then act like season 3 is gods gift to mankind when it is filled with leaps of logic like this.
I'm pretty sure the old Air Masters Knew how powerful lethal air bending was which is probably why did taught a more passivist style of air bending. Flying is cool as hell though idc I take air bending any day
Honestly I think which ever way you slice it it doesn’t really matter, air bending is the deadliest element. It’s great for self defense and killing your opponents. Let me explain, when Aang found monk Gyatso’s body he was surrounded by around 30 (which is my rough estimate) dead fire nation soldiers. Now he killed them and here’s the thing they were amped up by Sozin’s comet, and he was able to kill 30 super charged soldiers before dying himself. If they attacked without Sozin’s comet, Gyatso would’ve killed way more firebenders.
Zaheer is a trained martial artist and steeped in airbending knowledge before he got his bending. He wasnt starting from scratch when he got his powers. If you are already a kung fu master and know air nomad philosophy, then you are close to a master airbender already.
Imma be honest. I think this new version of Air Bending is definitely better to an extent cause it’s actually MEANT for killing. Even as the avatar Aang never killed anyone (that I remember) and as he said was only taught to drain his opponents energy till they can’t fight him anymore. Air bending could dead ass be one of the deadliest bending techniques but it’s just the fact that air benders (before the extinction event) we’re pacifists who never wanted to harm anyone. Ofc I think that Aang PROBABLY has better mobility like combat speed since that what he was meant to do (avoid fighting, run, and if you can’t then dodge your opponents every move till they’re exhausted). Over all he is right doe
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I feel like Tenzin was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more lethal than Aang ever was, far more powerful and hard hitting while still being graceful and defensive.
Well to say that his style is better is just.. wrong? I mean it’s one of those things we’re like even if he was the absolute best offensive air bender of all times indisputably, if you put him up against the absolute best defensive air bender that ever existed it would still be anyones fight. The advantage he has is similar to the one that aang had in avatar in the sense that nobody has seen this kind of bending before. Before him, people really hadn’t seen an airbender go full out into attack mode and likewise firebenders weren’t use to aang literally just bouncing around until there entire platoon of ships was destroyed. Now if he was even slightly better at his offense then his opponent was at defense then obviously he would have a slight advantage but if you flipped the roles, the same would be true. It’s just how a fight works
Zaheer already had martial arts training and already knew a lot about airbending culture so he didn’t progress at an impressive speed, it’s just what he could already do. When faced against a real airbending master he got his ass handed to him so no I wouldn’t say his style of airbending is better.
If Tenzin wiped the floor with Zaheer, wouldn’t that make the argument that the old way is better? Mind you, he only had the ability for two weeks, but it’s not like he was unfamiliar with the concept of air bending and it’s practices…he was already studying the philosophy of Guru Lahima.
Nah I disagree, Aang's actual prowess and skill comes from the fact that his fighting style is so pacifist. He had to train that much more to really remove lethality from his fighting. He dances around and plays with master benders because of his style, training, and martial arts. While his style is definitely designed towards self defense, it's clear how deadly it can actually be. The very few times Aang raged out, it showed just how truly capable and deadly he could be. Any truly sufficient threat would prompt Aang to amp it up. Zaheer is definitely the 2nd best Airbender we see next to Tenzin, but his prowess is more martial arts than actual bending. As you mention, he loses to Tenzin, but beats other world renown benders. The problem is which I feel like is being over looked, is almost no one knows how to fight Air benders. They're an endangered species, so him defeating Kaya, while impressive, is a caveat, as once again there's little to no real combat experience against air benders. Even if we assume she's trained and sparred along side Tenzin, those aren't real fights. Zaheer has a massive advantage because of that. That's not something that can just be dismissed I think. Also, him defeating Korra is a mute point to me. Let's be honest here, Korra is a trash avatar. I love her, her character, her story, her growth, her arcs, but let's be clear, objectively speaking; She's a trash avatar. She loses almost every engagement to any real quality bender and even in the show, her best moments are her defeating fodder, or plot armor scenes. i.e. achieving airbending, after losing her bending to Amon, *who she lost too beforehand* or beating Zaheer with AS. She loses against Zaheer, Unaloq, and Kuvira, pretty easily and even struggles against lesser named characters. She struggles even in the bending games. (I recognize all this has to do with her character development and overall story structure, but that's a conversation for another day.) What I will say is Zaheer had the potential to be the best Airbender, his philosophies, attitude, and will power allowed him to achieve flight, which is something that hasn't been done by an Airbender in a very long time. He naturally achieved astral projection as well, which is another highly masterful and difficult airbending ability (although not only limited to Airbenders, they're just more attuned to it.) His aggressive nature actually helps him achieve that status because he's already willing to sacrifice everything. He has air bending with a fire benders aggression, an earth benders fortitude, and a water benders adaptability, but I believe he'd only truly achieve the status as the best airbender after actually going through rigorous training, both in his own personal strengths and styles but also learning the traditional pacifist style combat that stems from Airbender culture.
He didn’t create that technique was actually a weaker version of one of the air normads technique that sucks the air completely out of a room. Air nomads knew how to be lethal and preached non violence because they knew exactly what they were capable of if a air bender woke up an chose violence
I think you proved that Aang and tenzins air bending style is better than zaheers, zaheer beats master water benders, fire benders, and earth benders with his style but when it came time to face tenzin he got his ass handed to him…in fact he was on the run most of that fight. And he need 2 other master benders so he could beat tenzin.
To be fair we don't know how much of Air Bending was recovered, Aang left with very little training and his style is not just pacifist but also trickster/prankster
Aang was an airbending master, that's why he had those tattoos and the kids his age didn't. He was also being overworked by the other monks which Monk Gyatso didn't agree with. I like to believe that Aang preserved most, if not all, airbending techniques.
What do you mean Aang had very little training he was literally an Air Bending master (as shown in his tattooes) he was so good at Air Bending he wa Ethel youngest master prior to Jinora (who only became a master due to her connection with the spirits) and even created his own techniques and was trained more than the people his age it’s safe to assume that Aang learn most if not all of what air bending had to offer
My thought was from plot holes, like having a second Air Temple and a 36th tier of Air Nomad techniques that may or may not have been recorded. And we don't know how much is in the 36th tier, it could be all the extreme no no stuff that is reserved for the Head of the Temple or the Avatar only? And we don't know if he talked to every other Avatar. I understand he got tattoos, but there's always more in the holes the lore doesn't go to.
Not gonna lie, gotta disagree with you man... These were all ordinary people had ZERO experience with ANY form of bending. With most participants ranging from teenagers - middle aged. And, t's a surprise none of them were good at adapting to a highly agile and precise form of bending like Air, but caught on much quicker to a style that's far more forgiving and simple as "just throw a air punch" Zaheer was said to be a prodigy in the same way that Zuko and Azula were (if memory serves me correctly the show states he was and the comics state Zuko and Azula were basically destined to be powerful Firebenders) AND he had already studied air benders and their culture prior to gaining Airbending. He's the exception, not the golden standard of lethality vs pacifism forms of Airbending. Not to mention Monk Gyotsu (if I'm spelling this correctly) took out nearly 10 comet amped Firebenders as we see with the bodies and he was raised on the typical air nomad teachings with no proof of anything besides this.
I’m way late commenting on this but Aangs style of bending was better because sang did grow up training with other air benders so I’m pretty sure whatever zhir threw at him Aang would have countered it simply because he knows air bending at its core
I believe a pacifist style with more better but not intended to be lethal. Aang had to learn years worth of bending with a handicap and, if removed, he would be stronger than Zaheer
I’ll never understand the Zaheer airbending worship. Even if he only fought him 2 weeks into his bending, it meant legitimately nothing. He didnt touch him. Zaheer is a GOOD airbender, he is not a GREAT airbender. He has ONE insane ability. The most dangerous thing about Zaheer is his mind and his spiritual connection. He was not potentially the best in the series in any way shape or form when it comes to pure bending ability.
It’s not even that insane literally any half way decent airbender can create a tornado from under themselves and start flying around the only thing he has are legs
Nah Zaheer was no where near tenzin or aang in fighting n i can imagine what Zaheer did was easy to do its just that the original airbenders were pacifist . You have airbenders creating tornadoes ect .
Hell no defense is better and more well rounded with more teachings and experience zahear had 3 other monster teammates and Korra was druged and weak not to mention tenzin was beating that ass before he got jumped
Remember when bending styles were actual fighting styles adapted for the series for slinging the elements at opponents. In LoK, at least in Korra, Bolin, & Mako's case, since the series follows them the most, they spend more time using shadow boxing as their bending style more than anything else. This was especially bad for Korra because she's bending 4 different elements, you'd think she'd use 4 different fighting styles, but nope. For her it's just punch, punch, punch, maybe sweep the leg every once in a while.
If memory serves he studied air bending before he got his powers which is why he masted it so quickly and he fought Aang so he had experience fighting air benders but still lost
Zaheer never fought Aang. He tried to kidnap Korra, who was born right after Aang died because it's how avatar cycle works.
@@Spherrum exactly
A fully trained and complete avatar is very hard to kill
And especially if its aang
And people think zaheer could actually do anything to him?!!!
No
His best shot is to kidnap a baby avatar
Also zaheer is the worst character in Lot
Right behind the earth bitch and korra herself
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 Worse than Unalaq, a villain so lame the other villains won't even take his calls?
@@RorikH both of you are buggin hard af Zaheer was hands down the best villain in LOK. Zaheer is honestly the only reason me and most people say season 3 is the best. Zaheer and his crew CARRIED season 3 without breakin a sweat
@@EnderDraconix Oh no, I think Zaheer is awesome too. Korra had a serious problem with power creep/one upsmanship (Vaatu, the giant robot) and it was nice to have a group of villains who were just really skilled and unusual benders, amd pretty interesting characters as well.
Here's my avatar hot take: The fire nation was the least suited to world domination and that's clearly seen in the fact that they relied on machines more than bending. If the water tribes put even a quarter of their effort into their navy that the fire nation did they'd have an invincible navy and conquer every port city and settlement crippling the economy of the other nations, which would be especially devastating for an island nation like the fire nation. No fortification would defend you from earth benders tunneling under your city and collapsing your buildings, and I think it says a lot that the earth kingdome has the most territory. Lastly the air nomads would be the only faction with an air force basically combining the mobility threat of water tribe navy and the fortification threat of earth bender tunnelers. Fire bending despite how it's presented in the show in my opinion has the least effective military applications.
Makes sense but the fire nation did have a head start on tech And you know... The whole making a entire race go extinct thing.
That's actually really interesting
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@@troljynx9953 Lightning bending is weak for all the reasons we _think_ lava bending is weak and visa versa:
The avatar bending community has tricked itself into believing lava bending is weak because it's slow when in reality in the it's presented with the same speed as water benders. While at the same time it provides similar defensive capabilitys as water benders and unlocks ineradicable construction and building potential for utility purposes.
Yes lightning bending is considered an instant kill but it's got a crazy charge up time and the lightning is slow enough for people to reposition themselves after it's been shot. Unlike lava bending it has no use outside of attack and a source of energy, which can easily be provided in other ways. If you want an awesome combat only fire sub bending type, go for combustion bending.
You know when you put it that way you bring up a lot of good points. It really does say a lot about how skilled and genius Ozai was as an administrator that he made the most out of his land's natural resources and firebending to turn the nation into a world power. That said I think the Water Tribes would be a naval power while the Earth Kingdom all around would be a super power.
Airbending was already shown to be used in aggressive fighting... Monk Ioso hand at least 10 firebender bodies around him when he died. Meaning he killed thing with most likely airbending. Not all airbenders was a practicer of pacifism. Avatar Yangchin , the previous airbending avatar, and monk Ioso being of note. Aang was so stern to pacifism based on being The last Airbender. He believed he had to be the perfect Airbender in every way to preserve his heritage.
Ziaheer already studied airbending history, techniques, philosophies for years before being even in prison. He wouldve basically been a air acolyte that gained the airbending.
Idk if it was stated if he went against aang at one point but the only living airbending master, Tezin, mid-low diffed him.
From the actual airbending we've seen, Tezin/aang had the best showings of airbending
Loso? You meant gyatso
And let’s not forget that Gyatso took down these and who knows how many others while they were powered by Sozin's Comet.
Ya its reasonable to say that Zaheer knew of tenzins techniques and style prior to their fight, and even so tenzin still handed him his ass with little effort. Tenzin was indeed superior.
Gyatso was apparently going to be revealed to be a reincarnated Momo too.
The only name spelled correctly in this comment is "Aang".
Bruh tenzen thoroughly whooped Zaheer. Zaheer's airbending was just martial arts that shoots air while Tenzen was truly an airbending master
I mean zaheer did learn in two weeks but he studied airbending for years prior. That's like studying the laws of physics for years on end and then going a 2 week long marathon of applying years of knowledge.
Wasn’t that essentially what happened in King fu Panda.
Po had studied martial arts for years but never did any actual trading. He eventually managed to surpass 5 masters in less than a year. Granted in the 3rd movie it was revealed pandas had an affinity for chi cit rom which could have had something to do with it but I don’t think that was planned when they made the first movie.
He didn’t study. He was just a fanboy. There is a difference between fanboys and scholars
@@edwinsolis5710 But he studied things about “THE GREAT GURU LAGHIMA”, he did study the air nomads and some of their history.
Zaheer didn’t even put up a fight man
Personal I think the pacifist forms are better but that’s honestly just personal preference
Lethality in air bending is a slipper slope imo. Honestly, it's like waterbending vs bloodbending.
Bloodbending does psychological damage to anyone who uses it for prolonged periods of time, it hurts their mind and corrupts them. Now this is an actual, magical side effect to using this power.
However the same principal can apply to using air bending as a lethal art. Such as having the power to legit just pull the air from someones lungs at a moments notice. It's incredibly powerful... And with that power, it corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely after all. It is a more practical, usable art sure. But the reason Air Nomads practiced pacifism was so they didn't become warlords and conquer the world. You saw what even a master pacifist could do to a room full of firenation soldiers in the first Avatar when Aang found his old master.
It's just a matter of not giving everybody free reign to become conquerors and unchecked soldiers as opposed to defenders.
My favorite comment so far! I never really thought of it like that, but you making a lot of sense. well said.
tbh pulling air out of someones lungs still requires the person to be kinda incapacitated or cant fight back like the queen of the earth kingdom didnt have any bending so she couldnt fight back and kora had just gotten her whole ass beaten and couldnt really fight back anymore.
other than that i agree.
also anthor reason for that being is since air nomads are peaceful most people wouldnt have any experience fighting one.
@@coolchrisable It's really not that hard to do it from a sneaky angle or put enough distance between you and your target and just spam it until they get winded. We see there's no real cost to bending for long periods of time unless it's actively stressful work, like holding up the tower and Toph doing it on sand.
It wouldn't be hard to knock an opponent off their feet and then use your airbending to yoink the air from their lungs.
@@mythicalthings1796 true but from how we see it in the show it requires alot of consentration and time even iuf you knock them off their feet they can still get back up and we dont know the range of the attack to do it
@@coolchrisable I'd imagine range is pretty far considering air is in no short abundance, same with earth. And someone would still have to spend time and energy getting up and if you're already pulling air from their lungs then they're expending more energy, and therefore more oxygen.
Zaheer's air bending looks a lot like fire bending to me with powerful strikes. I do prefer Aangs air bending because it suits the element of air more
Traditional bending was based on various Chinese martial Arts. Airbending was based on "circle-walking" (baguazhang), a martial art focused on redirecting an opposing force rather than meeting it with force of your own.
The problem with strict adherence to a particular style in martial arts is that it often excels in doing one thing very well at the expense of sacrificing skill in other areas.
I'd say a mixture of both would be effective
Well Zaheer did have a hard on for Guru Laghima well before he awakened air bending so he was already well versed theoretically.
He is an example of just how powerful airbending can be
I will say that Tenzen vs Zaheer was probably my favorite fight in TLOK. To see an airbending master vs a prodigy like Zaheer and beat his ass singlehandedly was so satisfying. When the other red lotus members joined in and ganged up on Tenzen I had mad respect for him for still putting up a fight despite the huge disadvantage and sheer will to save his loved ones.
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Sorry dude. This is the only video I disagree with you. You also kinda excused the dudes lost to Tenzen because he only had his powers for 2 weeks yet you described the type of people he beat. But when he actually faced a master air bender dude took an L and you automatically excused it for lack of air bending training. Don't get me wrong he's a really good air bender , creating his own moves and stuff but are we going to forget some of the air benders left fire Nation soldiers in the ground before dying out? Example monk gyaso (can't spell his name off the top of my head) had bodies laid out before probably being overpowered by them. Air bending is about being smart and cunning but they doesn't mean a cunning person can't use lethal attacks. You really dropped the ball with this one man.
And not even just like average firebenders, but fire Benders that were boosted by Sozins Comet at the time
Of course he excused it. He had it for TWO weeks. It's like studying basketball all of your life and being a natural but expecting to beat Lebron James when you've been playing for two weeks. It's just not going to happen that way. Also Monk Gyatso is probably a pretty good airbender, at least that's how I view him. Your average airbender wouldn't be killing sozin comit bufed firebenders like that. People have also theorized that he sucked all of the oxygen out of the room killing everyone there. Getting out alive is one thing but if you're that much powerful than your opponent, you don't need to kill yourself in order to take them out. Zaheer is incredibly impressive to taking on people who have lived with bending their entire lives. Tenzin has been using air-bending his whole life lol
@@Blitzvonic Not only that but the Fire Bender had the major advantage of surprise behind them
@@kimstew That too yeah, not like the air nation's had any idea it was gonna happen due their isolated lives
@@machinaowl910 I'm sorry but you can give him a century of training in his style of Airbendending and he still wouldn't beat a 12 year old aang or any master Airbender
I always thought that air bending would be very dangerous in the hands of non pacifist’s in the show. Example one being mei who would be able to throw her knifes at bullet speeds maybe giving her the ability to surpass azula and tai lee who’s speed and agility would let her run through armies. It’s legitimately the peaceful nature of the airbenders that was there downfall.
Lok benders are more along the lines of mma that is about practicality and daily life. Atla benders are more along the lines of traditional martial arts that involves the mind just as much as the body. MMA is more brutal and lethal and uses a more effective and efficient approach combat than traditional martial arts.
still can't believe this was on a kids channel. and somehow they were able to kill someone and didn't get banned.
zaheer was a beast in every way
Zaheer vs Tenzin was him walking into that boss fight with all the confidence of a man who just learned a second level fire spell and then fleeing with all the confidence of a man who just learned Genocidicles the Soul Flayer is immune to magic
Current Air Benders- Y'all remember a Air Benders were once WIPED OUT!!! We're not going through that shit again!
He could also fly too so umm even better at it than aang not just lethal bending.
Not necessarily. In order to fly an Airbender has to let go of earthly attachments. However because aang was the avatar he could never let go of earthly attachments since it would interfere with his duties.
Personally I think aang is better but zaheer was more aggressive.
@@Lazyguy143 Aang is wayyyy better idk why its a question lol. He would wash Zaheer even as a kid. Zaheer is not a master airbender. He can fly because he gave up earthly tethers, but his bending ability doesnt even come close to child Aang.
I think Water and Air are probably the deadliest or more lethal, but I feel like I myself would want to be an Earthbender
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100% right
Doesn't it just depends on what you're using it for? Before he was announced being Avatar he never had a need for violence till the others taught him how to fight. It all depends how you use your tools cause in the end the victor is whoever pulled it off better.
If you think Zaheer taking peoples breath away is terrifying, wait until you hear haw avatar Yangchen did the same thing but with an entire room.
I think of mix of these 2 styles would be really effective. Like don't get me wrong aggressive action and lethality is all fine and good but evasion does have a purpose.
Damn Zaheer really a bigger Mary Sue than Korra was ever accused of being
Zaheer the 🐐
Aang as a child stopped a lava wave with airbending, kicked giant flaming rock apart etc. He is lethal as hell, he just chooses not to be. Reducing the style of bending to how willing they are to kill is basic and takes away so much from what it is. Bending is a phylosophie and lifestyle not just to fight
For Aang it’s not about how fast he can finish a fight it’s about the least amount of damage he can do to someone
ever forgot. someone just LEARNED how to fly by giving up his earthly coils. thats all he told us
Honestly a balance of both would be good, which both Aang and Zaheer should have learned from their other ends of the stick, Overall yeah, in a decisive fight the lethal style is more efficient
I prefer the old Airbending Style, it just seems more effective to me
Yo this man spitting for real. I was just thinking this not too long ago after rewatching both series.
This is MMA vs. old world martial arts.
I’d say it’s a middle ground, choosing to be passive unless it calls for lethality.
The world of Avatar is gonna change the moment shockwave bending is invented. Explosions without fire, attacks faster than sound, combustion bending would pale in comparison. It would be like creating concussive blasts like Cyclops. Soldiers in WWII were dying in hospitals after surviving bombing raids because although the explosions were over, the shockwaves ruptured their organs and killed them from within.
And what if they uncover sonic attacks? Imagine the weapon Stane paralysed Tony with in Iron Man 1. Now imagine being able to skill into it and never need a device for it.
Finally, with engineering and technology progressing from historical looking times to the early 20th century with planes, how long before they unlock supersonic flight without planes, maybe just an advanced enough suit. I'm not talking Iron Man technology, just a suit that can sustain a bender under supersonic conditions
You say zaheer was better but he was getting that was whooping hard by tenzen. Tenzen out classed him in nearly every regard and only lost because he got jumped in the end by the whole red lotus
Nah even still I bet he could of 1v3 all the lotus members on the ground, the only reason he got hit was cause of combustion girl
I’m going with anag just because you get more cool points, remember anag used it dodge his opponents, incredible
The better question is, "Whose/which style of air bending would Batman use?"
I believe he would use a combination of both, as he's actively trying not to kill the villains while at the same time being absolutely brutal and ruthless.
@@faizanfaheem6813 I didn't just mean airbending, I meant all types of bending.
@@maddenboseroy4074 he technically has, in all of his machines and other shit in the comics.
@@faizanfaheem6813 You know that doesn't count in the Avatar universe.
aangs mentor who murk a squad of firebender before he died is cool
Offense is better then defense
Imagine a wind cutter or wind blade
I think the new Airbending styles work more for the newer generation of Airbenders and Zaheer is because they've adapted it to current bending styles. In LoK, the unique bending styles change to be more of an MMA style that allows benders to be light on their feet at all times. We see when Korra first launches an earth disk, she uses traditional earthbending stances and technique and has good power, but Bolin points out that her stances leave her open for to attacks, and teaches her a probending stance instead. We see it with probenders as well, a lot of them hold themselves in similar ways to minimise openings that would occur if they used more traditional stances. So this new version of Airbending is more adaptive to the current and modern bending styles that focus a lot more on offence and counter attacks. However, both Tenzin and Aang are traditional Airbenders. We see the nuances in the difference to their styles in Tenzin and Zaheers fight. Tenzin's form relies far more on the agility and acrobatics of the traditional Airbending methods. We see this when Zaheer and Tenzin scale a wall, Zaheer uses the air to boost his jump while Tenzin uses an air spiral to boost him up. Because of the direction of current bending in LoK, a lot of movements deemed unnecessary are forgotten in favour of more straightforward approaches, but this also takes away from the apparent nature of Airbending, in that it's meant to be adaptable and fluid, changing on a whim to find the path of least resistance. While Zaheer and to extent some of the modern Airbenders are all agile in themselves and capable of finding the path of least resistance, they lack the agility and acrobatics of the previous Airbenders and the ability to change your course of action on a whim. Tenzin was in control against his fight with Zaheer because Zaheer forgot one of the fundamental rules to Airbending in that it's a defensive end adaptive style of bending. However, that's not his fault as I've stated earlier, all bending styles of LoK focus on being more offensive and fluid to minimise wasted movement and allow for more attacking opportunities. Personally, I think Aang and by extension the Tenzin and the air nomads prior have a better Airbending style because it allows them to more readily adapt to their opponents movements and attacks and exploit in weakness or openings that may be present with a strong counter attack. That's just my opinion tho
Just learn both and be done with it
the thing is. as an air bender monk (Aang timeline) you know how dangerous air can be. why he and the other monks are so passive. if Aang cut loos like he would be as dangerous if not more than zaheer
If there was a balance between both styles, it would be like Miyagi do and eagle fang
Pretty sure Zaheer studied air bending for years prior to him attaining it plus it’s obvious that since he was a non bender prior that he was an elite martial artist and it’s likely that he kept his original hand to hand style and simply added air bending to it. Tho there’s no doubt that he’s a prodigy to some extent.
I think Tenzens bending was so cool and meant more to be self defense rather than pacifism
Adore your vids! I like each and everyone to try and trick the algorithm into showing me every single one you send out but sorry, bro. Tenzin bodied 3 red lotus members by himself and they'd face airbending before. His style wasn't just new, it was largely ineffective. The new style for the different elements was a logical evolution but it wasn't designed for large scale war.
Respectfully saying this, but I think art of lethality is needed vs using air bending in a defensive measure by dodging wearing down an opponent over time.
Only cuz I much agree, defensive tactics are highly arguable methods. Lethal is literally ways to help protect yourself better, and depending on how you both view, and utilize air bending teachings could be potentially used like how Zahere used the teachings. Not just in self defense or lethally in a bad situation, but literally have the potentially to legitimately fly without manipulation of air.
Instead your riding on air, or using the atmosphere of your surroundings be your way to fly. May I also add don't have to rely on tools, or machines to fly lol.
The strongest airbender would use old and new bending swift as a breeze strong as a hurricane
If you can be A little bit of both have a speed and Dodging skill of pacifism but the aggressiveness of zahir
He still got his ass dropped by Tenzin who logically is only equal at best to 12 y/o Aang in terms of Airbending mastery. By the end of Book 3 Aang was able to easily overpower Zuko with an air blast.
Where the hell do you get the idea that Tenzin is equal to a 12 year old Aang? There is no way in hell Tenzin doesn't easily surpass Aang in airbending at least in that point in his life.
@@clevernickname7998 nah aang is still better at air bending considering this is the avatar and you cant match the power of the avatar tenzin is good but still not as great as aang hell if he was still alive he would probaly be able to fly
@@justsomebody5450 Aang could fly with fire bending, but not like Zaheer because he would have to cut ties with everyone he loves, which is something Aang couldn't do. I'm sure Aang was better in his prime, but I can't imagine a 12 year old Aang beating an experienced master of Tenzin's caliber without at least hitting puberty first.
@@clevernickname7998 tenzin and aang are both master air-benders. Jinora is a slightly different case though
@@clevernickname7998 Aang was literally considered a master of airbending even before he froze in ice, its the reason he has the blue arrows on him, its a sign of mastery
Hmmm. You know. At first i wanted to go with Water Bending to counteract my inability to swim. But now i realize, if i Earth Bend...i don't have to worry about going in the water. Just be floating on a chunk of land and or metal
It isn’t which style is better it’s who’s a better practitioner, can’t nobody deny during that a one on one with tenzin an actual air bending master zaheer got washed. They needed to jump mans. Also zaheer may have just woken up one day with AB but let’s not act like he didn’t have a shit ton of training previously.
I’d argue he had the power of plot on his side was all. He was good because he studied air bending in books for years which I find a load of crap. If I studied martial arts for a decade with no actual practice I’m not about to just throw down with mma, Donnie yen and Jackie Chan like they’re nothing. I’m going to get thoroughly beat. I never understood how people hate season 2 and then act like season 3 is gods gift to mankind when it is filled with leaps of logic like this.
I'm pretty sure the old Air Masters Knew how powerful lethal air bending was which is probably why did taught a more passivist style of air bending. Flying is cool as hell though idc I take air bending any day
You just explained why aangs style was the best
Honestly I think which ever way you slice it it doesn’t really matter, air bending is the deadliest element.
It’s great for self defense and killing your opponents.
Let me explain, when Aang found monk Gyatso’s body he was surrounded by around 30 (which is my rough estimate) dead fire nation soldiers. Now he killed them and here’s the thing they were amped up by Sozin’s comet, and he was able to kill 30 super charged soldiers before dying himself. If they attacked without Sozin’s comet, Gyatso would’ve killed way more firebenders.
Zaheer is a trained martial artist and steeped in airbending knowledge before he got his bending. He wasnt starting from scratch when he got his powers. If you are already a kung fu master and know air nomad philosophy, then you are close to a master airbender already.
Imma be honest. I think this new version of Air Bending is definitely better to an extent cause it’s actually MEANT for killing. Even as the avatar Aang never killed anyone (that I remember) and as he said was only taught to drain his opponents energy till they can’t fight him anymore. Air bending could dead ass be one of the deadliest bending techniques but it’s just the fact that air benders (before the extinction event) we’re pacifists who never wanted to harm anyone. Ofc I think that Aang PROBABLY has better mobility like combat speed since that what he was meant to do (avoid fighting, run, and if you can’t then dodge your opponents every move till they’re exhausted).
Over all he is right doe
I think the only thing Aang killed was a giant bug in the desert when Appa got kidnapped
Didn't aang cause a giant avalanche that caused like 30 fire nation soliders to fall down a giant mountain?
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I feel like Tenzin was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more lethal than Aang ever was, far more powerful and hard hitting while still being graceful and defensive.
Why can't we just have both things? Pacifism where it's needed and lethality where it's needed
Tenzin is the better airbender when it comes to combat. He was beating 3 of the Red Lotus by himself.
Well to say that his style is better is just.. wrong? I mean it’s one of those things we’re like even if he was the absolute best offensive air bender of all times indisputably, if you put him up against the absolute best defensive air bender that ever existed it would still be anyones fight. The advantage he has is similar to the one that aang had in avatar in the sense that nobody has seen this kind of bending before. Before him, people really hadn’t seen an airbender go full out into attack mode and likewise firebenders weren’t use to aang literally just bouncing around until there entire platoon of ships was destroyed. Now if he was even slightly better at his offense then his opponent was at defense then obviously he would have a slight advantage but if you flipped the roles, the same would be true. It’s just how a fight works
Zaheer already had martial arts training and already knew a lot about airbending culture so he didn’t progress at an impressive speed, it’s just what he could already do. When faced against a real airbending master he got his ass handed to him so no I wouldn’t say his style of airbending is better.
Saying Zaheer was the best airbender is a criminal take
How bout the art of duality why use both styles and turn it into one style
If Tenzin wiped the floor with Zaheer, wouldn’t that make the argument that the old way is better?
Mind you, he only had the ability for two weeks, but it’s not like he was unfamiliar with the concept of air bending and it’s practices…he was already studying the philosophy of Guru Lahima.
Nah I disagree, Aang's actual prowess and skill comes from the fact that his fighting style is so pacifist. He had to train that much more to really remove lethality from his fighting. He dances around and plays with master benders because of his style, training, and martial arts. While his style is definitely designed towards self defense, it's clear how deadly it can actually be. The very few times Aang raged out, it showed just how truly capable and deadly he could be. Any truly sufficient threat would prompt Aang to amp it up.
Zaheer is definitely the 2nd best Airbender we see next to Tenzin, but his prowess is more martial arts than actual bending. As you mention, he loses to Tenzin, but beats other world renown benders. The problem is which I feel like is being over looked, is almost no one knows how to fight Air benders. They're an endangered species, so him defeating Kaya, while impressive, is a caveat, as once again there's little to no real combat experience against air benders. Even if we assume she's trained and sparred along side Tenzin, those aren't real fights. Zaheer has a massive advantage because of that. That's not something that can just be dismissed I think.
Also, him defeating Korra is a mute point to me. Let's be honest here, Korra is a trash avatar. I love her, her character, her story, her growth, her arcs, but let's be clear, objectively speaking; She's a trash avatar. She loses almost every engagement to any real quality bender and even in the show, her best moments are her defeating fodder, or plot armor scenes. i.e. achieving airbending, after losing her bending to Amon, *who she lost too beforehand* or beating Zaheer with AS. She loses against Zaheer, Unaloq, and Kuvira, pretty easily and even struggles against lesser named characters. She struggles even in the bending games.
(I recognize all this has to do with her character development and overall story structure, but that's a conversation for another day.)
What I will say is Zaheer had the potential to be the best Airbender, his philosophies, attitude, and will power allowed him to achieve flight, which is something that hasn't been done by an Airbender in a very long time. He naturally achieved astral projection as well, which is another highly masterful and difficult airbending ability (although not only limited to Airbenders, they're just more attuned to it.) His aggressive nature actually helps him achieve that status because he's already willing to sacrifice everything. He has air bending with a fire benders aggression, an earth benders fortitude, and a water benders adaptability, but I believe he'd only truly achieve the status as the best airbender after actually going through rigorous training, both in his own personal strengths and styles but also learning the traditional pacifist style combat that stems from Airbender culture.
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Nah tenzen whooped zaheer
Tenzin over Zaheer because Tenzin proved Hard Work over Talent every day. Tenzin only lost cause he got jumped. Prove me wrong
He didn’t create that technique was actually a weaker version of one of the air normads technique that sucks the air completely out of a room.
Air nomads knew how to be lethal and preached non violence because they knew exactly what they were capable of if a air bender woke up an chose violence
I think you proved that Aang and tenzins air bending style is better than zaheers, zaheer beats master water benders, fire benders, and earth benders with his style but when it came time to face tenzin he got his ass handed to him…in fact he was on the run most of that fight. And he need 2 other master benders so he could beat tenzin.
And also aang has also beaten master water fire and earth benders so that does not prove any of his points
To be fair we don't know how much of Air Bending was recovered, Aang left with very little training and his style is not just pacifist but also trickster/prankster
Aang was an airbending master, that's why he had those tattoos and the kids his age didn't. He was also being overworked by the other monks which Monk Gyatso didn't agree with. I like to believe that Aang preserved most, if not all, airbending techniques.
What do you mean Aang had very little training he was literally an Air Bending master (as shown in his tattooes) he was so good at Air Bending he wa Ethel youngest master prior to Jinora (who only became a master due to her connection with the spirits) and even created his own techniques and was trained more than the people his age it’s safe to assume that Aang learn most if not all of what air bending had to offer
My thought was from plot holes, like having a second Air Temple and a 36th tier of Air Nomad techniques that may or may not have been recorded. And we don't know how much is in the 36th tier, it could be all the extreme no no stuff that is reserved for the Head of the Temple or the Avatar only? And we don't know if he talked to every other Avatar. I understand he got tattoos, but there's always more in the holes the lore doesn't go to.
@@BLEaveable fair enough
Fartbending the best tho
Not gonna lie, gotta disagree with you man...
These were all ordinary people had ZERO experience with ANY form of bending. With most participants ranging from teenagers - middle aged.
And, t's a surprise none of them were good at adapting to a highly agile and precise form of bending like Air, but caught on much quicker to a style that's far more forgiving and simple as "just throw a air punch"
Zaheer was said to be a prodigy in the same way that Zuko and Azula were (if memory serves me correctly the show states he was and the comics state Zuko and Azula were basically destined to be powerful Firebenders) AND he had already studied air benders and their culture prior to gaining Airbending. He's the exception, not the golden standard of lethality vs pacifism forms of Airbending.
Not to mention Monk Gyotsu (if I'm spelling this correctly) took out nearly 10 comet amped Firebenders as we see with the bodies and he was raised on the typical air nomad teachings with no proof of anything besides this.
I’m way late commenting on this but Aangs style of bending was better because sang did grow up training with other air benders so I’m pretty sure whatever zhir threw at him Aang would have countered it simply because he knows air bending at its core
All this hype and Zaheer still couldn't beat a poisoned Korra lol
I think aang's is better the problem is does aang's son actually match up to him in terms of skill?
Aang was a great fighter if Aang wasn’t a pacifist fire lord would’ve got his shit caved in season 1
I believe a pacifist style with more better but not intended to be lethal. Aang had to learn years worth of bending with a handicap and, if removed, he would be stronger than Zaheer
I think Zaheer's airbeding style was better then Aang's, fight for it, i DARE you
Ang still better tornadoes with out help and super speed go bur.
I’ll never understand the Zaheer airbending worship. Even if he only fought him 2 weeks into his bending, it meant legitimately nothing. He didnt touch him. Zaheer is a GOOD airbender, he is not a GREAT airbender. He has ONE insane ability. The most dangerous thing about Zaheer is his mind and his spiritual connection. He was not potentially the best in the series in any way shape or form when it comes to pure bending ability.
It’s not even that insane literally any half way decent airbender can create a tornado from under themselves and start flying around the only thing he has are legs
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Well that doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
I get it he saying aang is still him but his air bending style isnt the best more aggressive air bending styles like the person he mentioned is better
I have to say zaheer he can fly
Nah Zaheer was no where near tenzin or aang in fighting n i can imagine what Zaheer did was easy to do its just that the original airbenders were pacifist . You have airbenders creating tornadoes ect .
Hmm... Nah Aang is still the best.
Damn... he did give Kora ptsd lmao
Hell no defense is better and more well rounded with more teachings and experience zahear had 3 other monster teammates and Korra was druged and weak not to mention tenzin was beating that ass before he got jumped
Remember when bending styles were actual fighting styles adapted for the series for slinging the elements at opponents. In LoK, at least in Korra, Bolin, & Mako's case, since the series follows them the most, they spend more time using shadow boxing as their bending style more than anything else. This was especially bad for Korra because she's bending 4 different elements, you'd think she'd use 4 different fighting styles, but nope. For her it's just punch, punch, punch, maybe sweep the leg every once in a while.
Hard disagree for the same reasons others are stating.