What about the gender workplace hours gap?
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- The Workplace Gender Equality Agency has a lot of work to do on its statistics following Senator David Leyonhjelm's questions in Estimates. The agency publish a gender pay gap based on ABS data, but they don’t account for the fact, revealed in the same ABS data, that male full-time workers tend to work longer hours than female full-time workers.
To not look at hours worked is intellectually dishonest and deceitful. Scumbags
Except that these arseholes aren't intellectual
The Hallmark of Toxic Feminism, no changes there then, right?
Its one of the lynch pins of their entire narrative.
Its a resonable figure to look at when discussing earnings but it doesnt actually mean anything when talking about a wage gap. If the female employee works 7h and the male employee works 12h they should be PAID roughly the same per hour but the man would EARN about twice as much
amanda cabrera one could argue more than double assuming the 12 hours places them into overtime pay which is generally 1.5x at least in the US
Edit: Look at the comment below to see why I’m wrong. Oops
This is what a degree in gender studies looks like.
Seems pretty nice honestly. Getting alot of money for bullshitting 😁
Hahaha!
I am sure you said that because of her haircut.
She has just demonstrated a good case FOR a gender pay gap.
Is this Liberal Democrats Parody channel or real liberal channel?
If there is a gender pay gap, these women demonstrate a good example as to why it exists.
I am not an Australian and I don’t live in Australia but this senator really makes my day. 😂😂😂
California will trade both of our lackluster senators for this guy and throw in a couple of cases of a Napa cabernet
rational thoughts he presented as an argument to their "feewings".
I’m sure they voted him out and replaced him with a purple haired chick. He was too reality based.
Well we all live in the same poisoned fucked up society that is doing the same exact thing
As a woman, I say get this man a beer
The irony of these women talking about people who sit behind a desk being unproductive is comedy gold.
They could've just said "We dont know shit"
🤣🤣🤣
@@staycalm88 this was worse than Barcelona x Bayern
Absolutely agree. What a waste of time and money. Here in UK, some job positions in certain institutions are only available to B.A.M.E candidates, and in some instances gender quotas are applied. Is that not a bit sexist and racist in itself.
@@staycalm88 Haha, yeah and I'm the president of South Sudan.
"workplace gender equality agency"
staffed entirely by women.
Ryan Duke You need to stop being homophobic.
This is the current year and we’re still assuming genders?
Yeah, and I bet they make 100k a year and don't do shit all day. I'm sure their nice government job is simply more patriarchy at play. More bureaucracy, please. Governments transforming into the bloated HR departments of corporations. Gotta have thirty 'diversity officers' to stand around and say everything is racist. Now lets cut the wages or fire people who actually do stuff so we can hire a few more of these bureaucratic leaches. Fire the white males first, we have quotas to reach.
All white.
@Nic B I might be wrong but I think he meant it as an obviously nonsensical imprecation, on the same level as the nonsense of having an all-women "workplace gender equality agency." We oppose sharia law and we are labeled racist. We expose falsehood of gender pay gap and we are called misogynistic. Howard is just using the N-P-C playbook reaction in reverse (and almost certainly tongue-in-cheek).
This entire meeting was essentially "the dog ate my homework" excuse.
I tried making this argument to a woman who claimed she wasn’t a “feminist”. It was pointless. She kept repeating the rhetoric of “77 cents on the dollar” yet when I brought up different occupations, education levels, hours worked between men and women - even cited or showed examples of WOMEN themselves backing the argument (ala Ronda Rousey pay gap clip) - she would keep repeating “where are the stats”. I showed her the stats and it still didn’t matter.
This idea about the pay gap is so deeply rooted now that it’s almost impossible to argue.
Never forget that anyone citing "77 cents to the dollar" is likely citing BLS statistics that ALSO show something like a "33 hr workweek to the 43 hour work week"
When someone has blindly taken on an ideology, the last thing they are interested in is facts. Best to not engage. At all.
A logical argument would be: 'If that was true (which is illegal in the US and most other western countries btw), why would any company hire men at all, if they could just hire women and save 23% of salary costs?'
@@sksaddrakk5183 Excellent point.
She's a feminist. Ignorant or a liar = feminist.
"Why do you not look at hours worked?"
"Because it would totally destroy our argument."
Well, debate in general. Even if your topic in question is a losing side, if the opposition is stupid enough to not know about it then you've already won
Lmao dude I spat out my coffee
@@ikmalizzatjohari6475 This isn't debate class though. This is your country (or someone's). This is the writ of law being degraded and abused for someone's personal agenda. This is something that affects everyone. Not just some kid in a classroom who doesn't get a trophy over how well they argue.
my thoughts exactly.
@@Keys879 yep totally agree. If they really decided to enforce something that didn't exist based on merit then they would probably start penalising men for working more hours or increase women's hourly rate so that have an equal "annualised" earnings. That is the danger of letting someone have their way not based on logic but simply out of an envy of others earnings and misandry.
They should have worked longer hours to get more information
Darkchild Spawn ha, got em
Darkchild Spawn most underrated comment here. Lmao!
😂😂
I genuinely laughed out loud. Great comment. Thank you.
@@tolula9927 So did I.
Give this man a cigar
Make it an exploding cigar, because this man is blowing up everywhere. ❤
OMG, these women were so under prepared with their argument 🤦🏻♂️, that senator was so patient with them 👍
Actually, they weren't "under prepared". It's because their entire argument is nonsense
They’re not underprepared. This is intentional. It’s a grift. It’s the deliberate twisting of certain facts and obfuscation of others to promote a “wo is me” story
They aren't using logic, they're seeking to prove a misandrist point.
Patient?....Hmmm, I don't think it was that.
I imagine the Senator was actually fuming inside at the mixture of arrogance and stupidity demonstrated by these women - no doubt themselves in highly paid Government positions.
I believe Senator Leyonhjelm was playing them beautifully in the knowledge that ABS data was there to sink their case.
Annualising part times rates to full time rates presents a false picture - which they are well aware of - and hourly rates , which are the basis for all wage calculations across the business spectrum correctly show that a gender pay gap does not exist.
Ironically this data is available in the same ABS report.
Brilliant questioning by the Senator.
Smug, arrogant, deceitful response by the "ladies".
This was so embarrassing to watch. "We don't collect that data" = "We collect only the data that supports our beliefs"
And the cherry picking Oscar of the year goes to...
Yes that was very embarrassing I couldn't believe the stupidity.
5:20 look at how indignant she is at having been asked to do her job properly lol
Abdul Salim
_________________not "beliefs" - "agenda" Every one of those women knows perfectly well that none of them actually believes what they're saying to be true.
this is what they call P-hacking in the scientific community,
essentially cherry picking data to reach a certain outcome.
Did anybody noticed that the Workplace Gender Equality Agency panel is ALL women??? So much for gender equality.
Ha ha, it’s like there’s only one bloody monopolies commission!
Some are MORE equal than others, it seems
Seemed the entire room contained ONLY women......the men must have been at their full time jobs...🤫😬
And all the people in the background are women, all being humiliated on their facts and figures by ONE man.
How do you know? They may identify as male or non gender or they could be men dressed as females. Perhaps they are dairy cows identifying as women. You must be a bigot.
This is the most chill, low key roast I have ever seen
"we overlooked certain data because it didn't paint our narrative favorably."
5 women cant do 2 years work while a man solved the whole thing in 8 minutes😂😂
hahahahahahahahah
Owned
Good one anonymous. 😁
I honestly don't think they were that oblivious, they knew about the difference but probably thought they could manipulate their findings. But they probably would have had better luck doing that with sexier women.
Its true as the femenits say... a work place with 50/50 gender do a better job... this probobly proves it
I'm surprised that they did not accuse him of rape.
Lol
Probably in part 2...
Roy Batty are you threatening her?!?!?!
Don't give them ideas.
LOL factual rape 😂
This is the 4th time I've watched this video and it never gets old. DL calmly and factually rips these gals apart. Priceless.
Brilliant.
iv just watched it 3 FUCKING TIMES, and its just as funny as the first time.
This video should be played in every educational institution
Sooo... you want to be paid more money than men to make up for the ammount of work you dont want to do. Got it.
I think the main point these women could have made was that women have to take time off if they want to have babies which enables men to work more hours in their lifetime. I realize that it would only be the first couple months but still it adds up and certainly is unfortunate that women are made to bare the brunt of child carrying and birthing however that's life, also suck that men are the ones that Jill themselves more. Women and men have different roles it's just that easy and these soccer mom's are just trying to push forth a problem that has no solution to get their time in the sun and feel accomplished.
@@maxdinsmore1109 However, a counter to the argument of child caring is the presence of a contributing father. The argument being put forth is that women are paid less than men, child caring has no effect on this since if a child is involved there is a father working or contributing money to the mother.
These people are manipulating data and using willful ignorance to push forward an agenda for their misguided ideology.
@@maxdinsmore1109 work place injury and fatality is astronomically higher among men. Account for time lost due to injury against time lost for child bearing.
max dinsmore you want employers to avoid hiring females? Increase wages based on gender..
@@maxdinsmore1109 Wow, are you a nascent AI bot? Hmmm, women are forced to do all the childbirthing. Well, no woman is forced to have any child.
She literally said that a woman that works for 8 hours should be paid the SAME as a man that is sitting at his desk, working for 12 hours. This is feminism people.
No she didn't lol
She said that just because the man is working 12 hours doesn't mean she's working harder than the lady working 8 hours.
He argument still doesn't make sense but that's not what she said.
@@MOTWMB Translates to the same thing though.
True that OP is wrong that it's not what is literally said.
But he/she got it correct on the message implied.
A woman's time is worth more than a man's, she doesnt have information on hourly pay because she has seen it and it destroys her argument. They want women to be paid more than men for the same job, plain and simple.
“Senator, we only take into account the data that confirms our hypothesis”
It's a nightmare when your looking for something that just isn't there.
What ever these women are being paid it is too much. That is what I have learned form this video.
They are Sophists because Feminism has always been a toxic Gender Bigoted Supremacist Pollitical ideology NOT an equally movement!
imagine even going to a simple work meeting and being that incompetently asking for a nation wide raise omfg lol
The are clearly only gathering information that supports their narrative of the wammins being victims, while going out of their way to avoid any information that might explain that gap by anything other than "Patriarchy".
They need to be fired, and whatever department they work for disbanded.
FUNNY ........but true
@@dirkhamilton2709 I agree with the sentiment however I think the agency comes under the portfolio of Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet.
"Sorry Senator, we only care about data that confirms our bias"
ttobyg nailed it
So YOU'RE the one who read my masters thesis
Damn...I thought it was my Mom
Mopped the floor with them. Love the clarity in his talk and pointing out their self delusional data politely.
That senator is a total gentlemen. How did he keep a straight face?
Hours worked would prove there is no gender pay gap.
If not even that women are payed more per hour, with all beneficions and so on...
it would probably show that men are being underpaid given the amount of more hours we put in.
And what she is doing isn't really "work".
Shhhhhh...... feminist are trying to justify their cushy government jobs u bastard lol
You should include hours worked per particular job at a particular workplace with amount of years worked at that company or in that field of work.
It sounds like this woman sits at her desk for many hours avoiding her responsibilities and job description on a daily basis.
As long as she is paid the same as a guy who sits at his desk and does nothing I assume there is no problem.?
@@wyattfamily8997 Hi, which guy are you referring to?
And hating on men just because some guy told her when she was younger that protein is a good facial scrub.
Darren Bradley - how inept were these people in being unable to answer questions that challenged their 15% wage gap?
Thats why she spoke about a man sitting at his desk for 12 hours and a woman sitting at her desk for 8 hours and having the same productivity, she sits at her desk for 1 year and has the same productivity as this man that sat there for 5 minutes.
"if a woman was working fewer hours but making the same hourly, would that show up as a gender pay gap?" - she nods yes while saying no
Yes, because she was lying through her teeth.
Well observed. I watched it again just to see the moment. Incredible, she nods indeed at 2:38 and then says no a split second later.
I lost my IQ points when she said that
This is why EVERY social science should have an intermediate stats course as a pre-requisite. Not some "easy" Calc I course, but the kind of math that scares Comp-Sci majors. If you can't create an ANOVA* table by hand, you don't get to make up "research".
*ANalysis Of VAriance. It's actually quite simple to create, if a bit tedious, but everyone who goes into probability/stats learns how to do it. It's good for quickly understanding how well your model fits the data, which variables are good predictors and which are just noise, etc.
One man in this instance was more productive and reached the bottom line faster than an entire panel of 5 women 🤔
They are obviously part timers🤣😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Welcome to the real world
They did no work and are still getting paid full time amazing
Any true feminist (not new age) would be ashamed of the women in this video.
In 8 minutes, 1 man did the work that 5 women couldn't do in a year.
Now, THAT is a pay gap!
Lmao and without the multi million dollar funding.
Kathleen Kennedy, Susan wojinsky
you mean 50,000 women.
2 years... the data or collected every 2 years 😔
This guy is an absolute boss. Clearly and thoroughly dismantling their entire argument with ease and without a hint of emotion.
The force is strong on this one 💪.
they are like, stop asking questions, i want to be oppressed
😂
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Your taxes are paying for these women’s salaries, people.
Sadly
Steven McConnell
What a waste.
But they willfully voted them in. . .
Says a lot about the sate of the people .
yeah but they're also paying for people like David Leyonhjelm , so its a win-lose situation.
Surprised she didn't scream "rape"
Senator literally dominated the debate calmly at 5:14
Now that's what I call a civilized conversation
Bruh, he single handedly smoked the whole group.
Lit em up like a bunch of fire crackers!
and with style I might add
Pay one smoke 5. Buy one get one free hire.
He didn’t even try lol he just asked like literally regular specific questions
They actually need 1 man to do the same amount of work as these 5 women. These women are seriously overpaid.
Mans calmly dismantled their argument. No raising his voice, no bickering, no snarky comments. He just asked questions and let them get caught up in their own mess.
Watch them call it mansplaining
The Columbo technique
This method of arguing is called maieutics
@@airkami You, Airkami, are very observant.
I love your post. 🇺🇸😃😃
So Australia has the American problem.....you know.
Isn't it glorious? If you watch closely, you can see the blonde woman reboot a couple of times.
As a woman I am embarrassed by these women's logic. Shocking! Who pays these woman to sit at a desk and waste this much time.
Also converting part time to full time doesn't make sense. A majority of part time workers are female and part time workers typically make less per hour compared to full time regardless of gender.
When your best argument for being caught in a political lie is to suggest that women who work 8 hours do as much work as a man that works 12.
😂😂😂😂…. That Part was PURE GOLD..!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂
These woman were so stupid that it brought me to tears
These women are no match to those women that I know who does not make gender a huge issue in their workplaces! And they get a very good pay out of it!
In my workplace, we emphasize gender equity & equality of opportunity than gender equality & equality of outcome!
She could have be pointing out that the woman are the one sitting at her desk for twelve hours doing fuck all, and the men are far more productive in eight hours! That’s how I hear it !! Lol
“Everyone’s a feminist, until the ship starts to sink, then they’re just a GIRL.”
Bill Burr
Look at her expression of pure contempt for the senator at 5:20, truly unbelievable. She's not there to achieve equality, she's there because she has been rejected by men one too many times.
There are no feminists in a housefire.
He actually said house fire lol
Smegead zero Feminist on Titanic
There are no feminists in a crisis :-D
Ironically, I was all for equal pay, until I saw this video.
I was sent this last week and had a good laugh. Unbelievable.
She let the cat out of the bag when she said “just because someone is at their desk for 12 hours doesn’t mean they are working.” In other words, yeah we know men work more hours, and yes we still think we should be paid the same. There you have it folks. Nothing like accidentally admitting your own agenda!
Who voluntarily stays at their desk all day if they're not working though? Last I checked people want to get out of the office and go home, men aren't just sitting at their desk longer because they want more money they ARE doing more work.
Feels like part time jobs should be counted as full time jobs as well, since being at work for 4 hours a day is the same as being there for 8 hours since the remaining 4 hours they are just sitting at their desk not working.
Ashley ASHLEYM, we do when we’re paid hourly lol.
Normy2323 I wish I could work for a few seconds and act as if I was as productive as someone who just worked 12 hrs
@@ashleyashleym2969 Probably people who are paying off big debts and need to make that little bit more to support their families. Just stuff like that. Same reason why I believe a single mum would stay back.
"We don't have the data for that"
Translation: We ignore that part
Translation: "that data does not support our biased agenda, so we decided not to include it in the report."
We are attempting to deceive you.
@Peter Simpson Marcus Garvey was wrong. RazorBladeKandy was white. Chinweizu synthesized both their ideas but it was Rollo Tomassi who perfected them. His text The Rational Male currently has far more appeal than the myriad of black nationalist literature already in circulation. It so happens that he published it the same year Tommy Curry challenged the fantasy of male privilege, referring to being a black male as a death sentence .
His The Man Not however was not the first text to address the shortcomings of fem-centric pan-africanism. Nor was his recent 'Decolonising the Intersection' despite highlighting his attempts to emphasise the role of misandry in black female thinking. Chinweizu (Anamtomy of female power) and Shahrazad Ali (The Black Mans Guide) also made similar efforts but it was George Subira (1992) who hit the mark .
Unlike Chinweizu, Subira did not draw upon Esther Vilar's 1976 classic, The Manipulated Man. Unlike most disciplined minds, Subira was an original thinker and one of the first to advocate a programme of economic leadership. Most modern black rhetoricians can offer no such programme or agenda because they are largely victims of black female programming. Their minds were long domesticated meaning they are reduced to reproducing aimless echo chambers almost every time they talk.
Neely Fuller (1957) was not hostage to such conditioning but his programme seems to have a key fault. Despite realising the incredible driving motivating force of sexual expression , he still managed to downplay it's role, especially how it compares to the larger logic of antiblackness and global white terror domination. Although Charles Mills (1997) did indirectly develop his ideas, he neglected to integrate the foundation his own work borrowed from, "The Sexual Contract." (1996)
Neil Postman, like Jeff Schmidtt, was one of the few people capable of making sense of these divergent ideas (much like John Gatto and Jan Matthews were two of those rare individuals with the pieces of the puzzle.) Conventional panafrikanism doesn't even realise there is a jigsaw to be solved. It has a distorted conception of itself because it views the world through a damaged lens incapable of accountability and self-reflection.
PanAfrikanism will not produce any quick results either because unlike Chinweizu, Subira and Curry, it still refuses the interrogate and recognise the role of women in sabotaging the afrikan agenda. Texts like Addicted to White work towards this, only, in this age of intersectional confusion and fragmented voices in the wind, it isn't necessary to silence this perspective; it is enough just to drown it out. Jacques Ellul and Guy Debord surely foresaw this tragic arrangement, when few others could.
Men have been fooled, black and white. It is no longer a question of race-first but male first, if not black-male first at the very least. Men are going to have to muster the clarity and courage to challenge the corporate-feminine regime dominating their "emptied" lives. If anything is to be redeemed black thinkers will need to prioritise the black pill and realise that the fundamental question of what it means to be a woman is as urgent as the need to ask what it means to be white.
Gwiz
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Addendum:
1. Attention to a woman is like a blowjob to a man
2. When a man's contempt for women surpasses his lust for them, only then shall he become wise
3. Women think all men are the same - that is their strength. Men think all women are different - that is their weakness
4. A man's facade of strength is his biggest weakness; a woman's facade of weakness is her biggest strength
5. Men fake interest, women fake orgasms
A. Women are not to be loved; they are to be handled
B. Women are not complicated; they are complicating
C. A man must value his time the same way women put premiums on their body
D. Men struggle for physical dominance but women opt for social domination
E. Men compete; women conspire
Translation; "it's not about equality of opportunity but the equality of outcome, stop asking stupid questions"
@@kalicom2937 yes socialism would be so great if the cashier at wallmart doing only mondays was paid equal to the prime minister👍😎
I'm watching this many years later, but have to say it's a brilliant line of questioning!
This man's stoicism needs to be studied, oh my lord that calm dismantling is brilliant
Did she actually insinuate that men just sit at their desks for longer, not doing as much work as the women?
Yes it would be a very possible insinuation
That was a stupid move because being productive or not is out of the question because a woman can work 8hrs without being productive too, the question is how many hours do both sexes work and do they get the same pay with the same hours.
she tried it, than the camera showed all the women sitting with her and behind her clueless to undestand the simple rules of Math and collecting data. All studied women studies i guess :-)
austin johnson agreed it was stupid. I feel sorry for women though. The simple truth is that women who fall pregnant are in need of support. And men need to support women financially. That justifies any gap in pay if in fact there is one. But this has not been shown.
more hours worked = more experience. Experience accounts for a lot when trying to negotiate salary.
For the record... this man is not mansplaining... he's MATHSPLAINING... which he wouldn't have to do if these people had enrolled in STEMS instead of Gender Studies....
But you can graduate in Gender Studies simply by supporting a certain narrative, while in STEM fields the dropout rates are really high and graduating takes a lot of competence in various fields. I don't want to judge based on one short clip, but I think it is safe to say that it is not very likely for all of them to ever graduate in STEM fields.
Thank you. Reason discriminates against those addle-brained bullshitters. For some reason these feminists consider that sexist -- I guess they assume other women are similarly handicapped.
He wasn't even explaining anything. He was completely open minded and asked critical questions which they couldn't answer.
They even exposed their open bigotry by suggesting men are sitting at their desk eating out of their noses, while women are way more productive. She said this without any data.
that math is like, for first year high schoolers or even middle schoolers...
great comment from a guy whose channel has....
NOTHING!!
🤣 they came with case files of research and he came with a sound mind of common sense and they were stumped, a good few times 😂. There is a real gap, which is the outcome of working different hours and probably accounts for paternity leave, but having different wages for different genders in the same roles is illegal in most places, they're just trying to finesse extra pay 😂
Fam, at this point you are ngolo kante, mans covering every vid!
Not most places, ALL places. You can't pay a women less than a man for the same job.
She literally nodded while saying no, then corrected herself. Kudos to the man. If you don't realize how important this conversation is, you were never married.
His calmness gives space and time for these women to come to the excrutiating conclusion that they've wasted decades of their lives on a complete and utter fallacy.
In a nutshell.
I don’t think they’ve wasted this time . They were getting paid . Thy were extracting tax payers money to fight windmills . Spreading misinformation .
I think they think it was a productive decade
They have wasted nothing. They are getting paid to chase unicorns. They ARE the reason the wage gap myth will never go away. People whose political careers hinge on these fallacies don't want to lose their jobs any more or less than those working the line in a factory or collating data in a cubicle.
@@47morlock I don't know... I think you guys are all underestimating human stupidity. Never underestimate human stupidity
@@temporaryaccount5698 that’s a good point . I do do that . But they can’t all be dumb . I’m sure there’s plenty of true believers . Some must know what they’re doing .
So, in other words, there is a major hole in their dataset which undermines the credibility of their entire report.
But the data to complete the dataset and give a full picture has been selectively ignored. Feminism all over: write a conclusion and then cherry pick the data that supports it.
But they still insist on their conclusion.
Their dataset
Victimology doesn't work like the other Sciences.
mjribes & we are paying for this embarrassing nothingness .....
They're literally stumbling and falling so hard "we cannot collect that data senator" "well here it is right here, I can send you the data" "......." I love it
Why is a panel who's role is monitoring/enforcing 'gender equality' only represented by women?
Cause that's what equality looks like
Fun fact: In my country one State Constitutional Court rejected in 2017 the complaint of a (male police) officer about the fact that the position of equal opportunities officers could only be voted on and filled by women. Reasoning: "Women are still structurally disadvantaged. Among others this manifests in the under-representation of women in executive positions. First and foremost the Equality Act serves the advancement of women."
I assume the same principle applies world-wide to positions that are supposed to serve the "advancement of gender equality".
Because they do not want the truth to be known.
Historic wrongs that white men have committed and will be made to be paid for them for eternity no matter how many sorrys or 'reforms' they undertake.
@@1HiddenSecret the serious question is does 2 wrongs make a right if you shoot me in the foot dose that mean i can shoot ur whole family in the foot and ur childrens children that's basically what the comment above states white men screwed over woman and indigenous people so there children's children's children should be punished my dad use to say an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind
Hmm imagine working less hours and getting paid less money. How crazy is that?
They want to work less hours and get paid more money
If it’s not equality of outcome, it’s a clear sign of patriarchy
It must be gender, no other variable playing there, its gwendewr pwobwem
not so crazy I do that all the time.
Utterly ridiculous that these people.arent doing the job required. What they are doing is trying to justify their work while demanding a raise. Despicable.
One year of all their work worth less than 15 second of his questions...
Women that work 8 hours get as much done as men who work 12 hours?
that's a legendary claim
Backed by nothing but a brain image
Sounds like they worked 8 hours on their analysis and ended up embarrasing themselves in front of the cameras. Seems like 12 hours would have been, as they say, more productive...
@@daletonner742 omfg I dunno why I laughed
@@daletonner742 Dammit! Are you saying that I can't twiddle my thumbs for 4 hours at work anymore?
"If you have someone sat at a desk for 12 hours, they may not necessarily be working for all 12 hours." Same goes for someone sitting at a desk for 8 hours? You get payed for the time you are at work and if you stay longer, you get payed more. How is that so difficult for her to understand?
"Why is it you don't look at hours worked"
Because that would defeat their narrative, obviously...
Women on the Couch: An Analysis of Female Psychopathology [Pacheco, Claudia Bernhardt]
This exposes how taxpayer money is used to produce deliberately misleading reports, to support whatever narrative the government wants.
All these women probably on 100k+, and it’s clear as day that they were set the task of producing a report to give credibility to the wage gap.... no doubt requiring more investment in women like them to tell us all how to fix it.... and giving politicians something to use as a political football
Next time a politician complains about lack of funding for frontline services, remember this.
@@unclegoon347 be careful they might close your account for exposing reality
EPIC RESPONSE!
Its sad, trying to make an argument, that gets shut down by their own answers.
I would love to see their MATH on how they do these conversions.
Isn't part-time jobs paid lower salaries normally lower than full-time positions?
Full-time employment is considered 2008 hours without overtime. Annual income can easly be converted to hourly rates
If anyone had to present their research in a university or company like that they would fail and be reprimanded for that. And hats of to the senator that thinks about the topic for a second and asks one simple question that breaks the entire result of the study.
No they wouldn’t. Universities and most companies are immersed in leftist thought. They would be promoted to a higher sinecure, like head of DEI.
This guy is gold, he just clinically dissected the data.
This guy earns every cent he is paid, not like some people sitting at the desk...
@@IronFreee... for an hour less a day.
@UCgn3dvCtj6-c3opGdZYF0IA You should learn how to listen, or you just don't understand what he is talking about.
They didn't based their calculation on real worked hours, it's based on the assumption that they all worked the same number of hours. Without any extra hours.
That's how every country got that ridiculous supposed "gap", ignoring the real data.
@UCgn3dvCtj6-c3opGdZYF0IA You make a good point, I am just not too sure if that is a good way to normalize the data. Generally speaking when an employee is full time, you do pay them more because they have more experience and can demand more pay. Part time employees usually do not have the level of experience that can command the same rate. A lot of full time employees started out working part time and then make the transition.
I would be more interested in seeing all part time workers annualized and then compared, also a comparison of all full time compared to just full time. Generally speaking part time employees are at the beginning of their career while full time employees are more established. Many people choose to always stay part time for a number of reasons, family, going back to school,etc. But it is hard to build a career if you just stay part time. Full time employees are also for the most part taking a bigger lead on bigger projects. Part time is generally speaking supporting the full time.
For some part time is a perfect compromise between financial wealth and mental wealth, for others it can be frustrating.
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@@IronFreee essentially true. Our firm pays 40% of hours billed regardless of whether they are boy or girl. It doesn't matter. If the girl is only billing 1500 hrs a year and a guy is billing 2200 ... he's going to be paid more ... for the same work. In our firm, on average, our men bill about 22-25% more hours. Of course they get paid more, of course they advance faster, this is not brain surgery. Who do you pay more, the guy who brings in $1,100,000 in revenue, or the woman that is bringing in $900,000 per year. That's obvious. Moreover, the unpaid hours spent rain making isn't even taken into consideration. In my experience the 'gap' does not exist. Same for paralegals and secretarial staff. Although, the comparison is tough because all of ours are women.
Interesting how they assume that only male employees "sit at their desks" doing nothing and being paid. Sexist much?
Even more bizarre is that she's not smart enough to realize she's comparing apples to oranges and then telling him about pineapples.
They are probably not intentonally sexist in this case, they just extrapolate from what they are doing usually and assume everyone else is doing the same. ^^
The implication that only males shirk on duties is indeed repugnant. I believe the data shows that *any* employee, regardless of gender, shows a diminishing value added the higher the number of hours worked beyond certain thresholds, which are in turn dependant on the type of work being performed. ROI on OT is an internal issue for companies, and being gender neutral, falls outside the topic of the conversation being had.
@@smokenmirrors8869 Its a narrative honestly the sad thing is she is bad at job. Watch any normal political discussion or interview ect and you will see they come out make a big statement. Then answer every question with either I am uncertain I couldn'ts say or the most common to "seem cooperative". Is utilize piece of original statement that is most relevant.
She tried to do that but sucked. Honestly a more experienced politician would have laid out narrative and then kept reaffirming their narrative and avoiding question till they ran out of time.
This was something I realized watching obama admin started out a fan but every press conference. They come out lay out their narrative and they were so good at using part of original statement to answer every question and avoid answering anything. I would actually see entire press conferences that they didn't use a single word/phrase that was not in original statement. And after like I year of that and other things like watching house sessions ect. Realized its all a big puppet show a mime to satiate public a complete circle jerk.
I wonder if she pays her full and part-time employees the same annual salary, since she apparently thinks part-time employees do just as much work as the full-time ones.
We need honest and brave people like him (people who "truly" want gender equality, people who are not one-sided and their views are not gender-biased). Those women are obviously gender-biased. We can see that they have strong biased opinions. In their research, they cherry pick data that confirms their theory.
A man would have had that data ready for such an important conference
If only she had worked the extra hours, might have been able to come up with a better narrative.
Lol
Savage
😂😂👍
Great comment!
But she has kids! She has to get home! How can she juggle kids work a little homework etc etc. Will someone please think of the children!!!
She has some balls claiming men just sit at their desks on the clock after this piss poorly prepared hearing 🤣
Seems like they knocked it up in 20 minutes before the hearing.
What makes it even more funny and absurd (if that's even possible) is the fact that at the same exact time she was implying that men aren't more productive sitting at their desks for 12 hours, as opposed to a woman sitting there for 8 hours she has the one to the left of her doing nothing but sitting there playing on her phone the entire time, while she is doing all the work.
@@kimberlyfrost4730 I do not find it funny at all. This is sexism. She clearly states that a man is not worth the 12 hours of the work he puts in. Yet a female is worth the 12 hours of work, despite putting in 8. How is that equality? I *used* to want men and women to be treated equally, but as I have gotten older, I realise that men are treated like absolute crap and I do not want that to be enforced on women. They can spin it all they want, if you want to be treated like a male, then take the good with the bad - BTW : there is more bad than good.
@@kimberlyfrost4730 She was ordering food to maintain her size
And did you see that the woman who is left to her is just playing with her phone..?
You can make a drinking game out of this take a shot every time she says do do lol
I'm outraged at the gender pay gap , the women on ONLY FANS get much more than the men,
We can see it all here, this guy is doing more work in this video than those women combined.
Popa no wonder they get paid less :)
@@oz_jones One of them is having a text chat ,and doesn't even seem to be paying attention .
@@Evilroco already tweeting about the Senator's toxic masculinity and making unreasonable demands of her i.e. expecting her to do her job properly
The world is full of plenty of very capable and intelligent women. Don't let these con artists lead you to think otherwise.
@@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa Was a joke
I love how there’s 5 women lined up ready to produce evidence of a gender pay gap with piles and piles of paperwork and one man sat there with nothing but mental recall to assist him in proving it to be inaccurate.
yes a MAN WITH COMMON SENCE DEBUNKED THE FEMINIST PAYGAP
Not even recall... just asking for the correct data instead of their falsely applied selective data. They didn’t have it, or refused to provide it, so they’re stuck.
That's the left for you, "baffle 'em with bullshit"
Is society getting stupider or I am getting smarter?
@@bocaj7766 It's been like this since the dawn of man.. the modern technology just allows everyone to be heard, in a manner of speaking.. like me here; I couldn't reach you with my nonsense w/o the invention of PCM, internet, microprocessor, youtube.. :D
Because most of the comments don't really seem to understand the argument that he's making or that they're making:
They are saying that they want women to receive the same hourly wages as men. They're annualizing the data, so looking at pay per ~2000 hours rather than pay per 1 hour. What his argument is, in short, is that part time employees are not necessarily deserving of the same hourly rate as full time, and they're saying that there is a 15% gap between men and women and that they haven't considered the effect of part vs full time work - they've actually factored it out mathematically. It's an argument about a factor that would likely slide the 15% closer to zero, but because there's no solid data, it's impossible to tell what the size of that effect is.
Hmmmm.... one man sitting at a desk being more productive than 5 women sitting at a desk, for the same number of hours they're sitting at a desk
“We don’t collect the REAL hours.....”
definition: we don’t collect any real information that could result in a correct, accurate comparison.....
@@vik5303 Well stated!
@@vik5303 find Out in the Next Dragonball Z
They don't collect actual hours but they do collect actual earnings. So convenient.
why would they? facts are only important if they support the narrative
Despicable and deceitful feminist garbage. Good on the senator for calling them out!
Don't worry, the senator will be disregarded because he was "man-splaining" basic thought. LOL
He's MANSPLAINING!
@@porflepopnecker4376 somebody has to... how else will innumerate females learn what statistics actually mean.
REEE REEE Patriarchy, some whiteknights help, we are getting fact-raped.
Actually, Neo feminism. Classic feminism beat the final boss and all was well.
When emotions and facts meet 😁
Owned. Bravo sir
Men, $20 per hour, working 50 hours per week.
Women, $20 per hour, working 40 hours per week.
Their Conclusion: men make more, there is a $200 gender pay gap.
The tax payers just spent $100,000 per year salary on each of the panel member for this flawed ridiculous study.
Exactly lol, I’m irritated that they are getting paid very nice salaries for this massively expensive time waster. I still don’t think they even get it after him explaining it it very nicely and understandably. (I’m sure they told everyone he “man-splained” them, he just clearly doesn’t get it). Females like this give hard working, full time hourly women workers a bad name
I worked with a woman who like me did most of the overtime so earnt more then anyone else depending on which one of us did more hours that month. And the guys didn't have a issue with it ,but the woman did not with me but her earning more then them
Fucking unreal handpicking numbers to fit an agenda
About right
@@darylshanley2674 perfectly nice example of "confirmation bias" to explain this video in a nut shell
Who ever he is? Give that man a raise... and sack those women.
Senator David Leyonhjelm is a total BOSS.
Doing that would REALLY increase that hourly pay gap
Cut the ladies some slack. They don't appear especially disingenuous here compared to other videos. They just didn't really think about it carefully enough.
Trav
BS... they saw what he was doing and tried talking around it to cover for the fact that they hadn’t looked for (or collected) the information that proves the actual pay gap goes against them.... especially when you calculate in the time men spend at work not on the clock to make sure everything is running smoothly.....
@@tsrav5 no they clearly had a strong agenda to push and they failed lmao
They and similar thinkers, all over the world, should be held responsible for their initiatives, regarding the waste of time, finances or catastrophe they're ignorance produced. I personally am for penalty in form of high fees or even imprisonment for heavier omissions, depending on the outcome and severity of the omission.
Citizens are paying high price for their lack of accountability.
Very interested in the answer to the 'question on notice'... did they ever bother to get back to you on this? very keen to see a follow-up video...
translation: "we are running a scam, but you saw through it, so we will take that question on notice and try to find a way to improve our scam for next time!"
BINGO!
well said!
They are so ideologically posessed they probably didn't even know themselves. It was unintentional.
*edit*
*to a degree*
It's not a scam eh... just really angry and bitter people trying to get revenge for some shit they've seen in lala land.
I don't think they have that intellectual capacity and awareness to recognize that what they are doing is a scam.
It's all "feels" for this people.
There appears to be 0 men on the “workplace gender equality agency” panel.
Seems bout right for “gender equality”?🥴
I wish they'd just rename it "women's advancement and eventual superiority" already. Of course, that wouldn't allow them to keep riding the co-tails of people's (now past) positive associations with feminism...
@@Avarioth Yes...... and this perfect slice of society that is actually such a narrow demographic, consisting of only white middle class "binary" women supposedly not married to low wage men but instead high rank tiers,. is a fantastic representation of the ideology of diversity they proclaim :D.
@Alex Beyer Wow.. Yes some say this some say that but even if there is a pay gap that is not the point with the stigmata. As soon as this question is thoroughly debated they will occupy themselfves with something new to be able to avoid the hard questions of this decade: the globalized reality, ai soon enslaving us and who will push the button to get rid of it, tyre rubber killing life in the seas, creating ecological collapse etc etc. Either they are ignorant, uninformed, plain stupid. Wich one is it? Feminism is a soft blanket.
I find it highly dubious that all the members were also white. I'm detecting undertones of racism here. How can a white women speak for a woman of asian and aboriginee descent? Here we have a classic example of white-supremacy
@adriano Feminists are the ones who tend to believe in gender inequality or at least motivated to be in this agency you state. Most feminists are women. So, logic dictates that those in this agency and those arguing gender inequality are women.
My God the incompetence of these people. These aren't even questions you'd think you'd have to ask. Totally unprepared and they've based a whole gender debate on maths a 3rd grader would probably do much better at.
This was funny to watch. She sounded so upset. It looks like she’s frustrated because he’s not listening to only part of the data she’s giving him😂
They know the point he's getting at but they don't want to say it out loud because their whole gender pay gap argument would fall apart.
And by not saying that and twisting like a snake they make themselves look utterly stupid and useless in the argument.
And they would all lose their jobs, if they admitted the truth.
People should like this comment more.
@@djahriman done! :p
true, "everything" anyone needs to know about this video is a 2:40 min.
"Just because somebody sits at their desk for 12 hours a day doesn't mean they are working any harder then a person that sits at their desk for 8 hours " that my friend is called moving the goal post mid enquiry.
yip. It had nothing to do with the reason they were there. i notice women do this a lot. They aren't willing to admit they are wrong so they try and get you talking in circles. talk about unproductive sitting behind a desk.
It's not even about doing 12 hour days, the difference in hours worked between men and women in full time jobs is largely due to the amount of leave taken. On average, women work about 1 day less per fortnight than men in the same job.
@@lancerd4934 so this what they mean by rape culture ? I agree . This guy must be stopped
@@omalone1169 I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about
She is basically telling us what a stay at home mother’s “work day” looks like. One hour of actual productivity, and 11 hours sitting there with the kids eating bonbons and texting Tinder men.
This video shows why I could never be in politics. People can stare you straight in the face, knowing you are right, and just double down on manipulated data even when you call it out. It's pathetic. Science and data collection should be about finding answers, not nitpicked over to get the answer you want.
I love this Senator!
Feminist be like: i want to work less, retire earlier and also get paid the same amount... Why no one wants to hire me?
at 5min she tries to claim women are more productive.. wow.
Your pfp is so fitting of this comment somehow lolololol
@numba1pinoy I agree with what you're saying but there's a difference between being more productive and more deliberate and careful. I do know what you mean tho
@@RussellDeacon No, it's different: she claims that, although men sits longer at their desk, their 12 hours of work is not productive, because after 8 hours you lose productivity. Which is true according to research, but she is bending this result to support her claim: it doesn't matter if you sit longer at your desk because you are as productive as 8 hours or work, so either you should pay more who sits there 8 hours or less (mainly women) or pay less who sits there longer than 8 hours (mainly men), which results into pay men less or pay women more. In the end all equality movements like Black Lives Matters or feminist end up in the same place: they are made of people who want money for free.
Basic business. If you could pay women less, you would only hire women.
Problem with that is most men would be unemployed, mostly men would be at home taking care of the kids while the woman works for less than her partner would have made for doing the same job... but that’s not the world we live in, is it?
In reality things play out as if there’s no financial incentive for business to hire women over men, (which as I’ve said there would be if women were paid less than men for the same job) sooooo, you see where I’m going with this?
If these lady’s are anything to go by, possibly not 😅
"We don't collect the real hours..."
This is the funniest thing I've ever watched. Thank you.
Most workplaces don't collect actual hours worked from their employees I think though?
My company certainly does. There's a fairly even split between female and male employees here and an incredibly heavy skew towards men for overtime hours worked. Some of these guys don't even bat an eye at constantly working 70+ hours a week
@@niklaswikstrom78 um, I hope they are. How else are they deciding how much to pay people?
@@CBDubz Based on their performance, how much money they bring in, and lots of other things.
@@niklaswikstrom78 no kidding, but that is all calculated against the actual hours they work. If you think employers don’t track the hours their employees work there isn’t anything I can do for you.
That senator was like I ain’t taking dis bullshit not today
Those women don't even trust each other's response.🤣🤣
Translation: we didn't collect any data that would disprove what we wanted to find.
They probably did but refused to share it for obvious reasons
Exactly.
Smart words
Bingo