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#Antz #CaptainMarvelous #AChristmasCarol
Mar-vel is really underrated.
He proved what a real man is.
We will never forget you 😢
Also, wasnt Thanos his direct arch nemisis?
@@Hillthugsta Yeah
Eh, while I dislike the MCU Captain Marvel, her comic counterpart honestly is the best Captain Marvel by a league
Is that a personal attack, or something?
@@bjornzexi535 Nah man, I'll admit that I'm a huuge Mar-Vell fanboy, but I think that he's still the best character who ever used the Captain Marvel moniker (apart from Billy Batson and the Marvel family, of course, I'm still pissed at how they changed his name to Shazam). Mar-Vell was an alien war hero who fell in love with Earth and his inhabitants, and decided to betray his own race to defend his adoctive planet, the one he was supposed to invade. Kinda like Marvel's Goku, right? Plus, even before he obtained vast cosmic powers, he always managed to hold his own against those enemies wo far exceeded his power, like the Thing, The Hulk or even Thanos, by using strategy and tactics, and died one of the most heart-breaking deaths of any comic book character: he didn't died on the battlefield, heroically sacridicing himself against some cosmic tyrant, he died from cancer, accepting his inevitable fate and with his dearest friends by his side, obtaining respect from his historical enemies like Thanos and the Skrulls. His death is also one of the few in comics which can really be considered meaningful and definitive: hell'never return from the dead like almost any other comic book character, because he died of cancer, of a real disease which kills people in the real world. That's why he's the greatest Captain Marvel in my opinion. Carol Danvers, although doesn't deserve all the hate she's receiving in this period, has been stripped of everything that made her interesting in the first place, like his struggle with alcoholism. Modern authors in every media tend to write her as this flawless, perfect hero and try to make her as important as the X-Men or Spiderman or the Fantastic Four, yet she constantly get his ass kicked and is now starting to assume villain roles like in Civil War II. As for Monica Rambeau, I haven't read much about her, so I can't really say
Now THAT’S exactly why I dislike Captain Marvel. Monica is one of my favorite Avengers and the MCU totally disrespected her. She shouldn’t have to play sidekick to Carol EVER.
Jaylan but both of those Characters are getting shows
@@jayydexter shows ain't movies, Inhumans got a show and Ghost Rider is on the mcu through Agents of Shield but this doesn't create average public engagement
No!!!!! You're just a sexist misogynist!!!!!!!
And now they fixed Monica 6-7 months later
@@Keithchan2024 There really wasn't anything to fix. Both the video and these comments went on the perception/assumption that Monica was or was going to be a sidekick to Carol but that's not what the movie is showing.
The movie is about Carol Danvers. They payed tribute to another "Captain Marvel" as a little nod, but they didn't have to since in the comics Monica's history and powers were never related to other Captain Marvels, she just chose the same moniker. Basically they could have left her out entirely but instead payed tribute to her and I'll take it.
It'd be the same to say that it's "disrespectful" how they relegated the original Human Torch to an easter egg in Captain America, despite him being the original Marvel superhero and coming before Cap. You understand that the story is not about him so you take that acknowledgment as a fun nod.
I'm not saying anything about the quality of the movie as a whole, but Monica's appearance was nothing bad in my opinion.
I think this finally puts into words why I loved ant man and disliked CM
CM is a prick in the comics
Aside from the fact that Ant-Man is a much better and more likeable character than Captain Marvel.
Johnny Lee a well meaning prick but a prick
Jayku 162 civil war 2 (the comic) ruined her for me.
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Ant-Man turned out as respectful as it did because Edgar Wright was involved. A man who's passionate about comics. Look at Scott Pilgrim (The greatest comic adaptation ever) to prove that.
10 years ago, I was so excited for a Captain Marvel film. Then I had to suffer through the last 10 years of Captain Marvel comics, hoping they would bring the old Carol's personality back.
I imagine the Ant-Man movies being a great template to follow if DC finally decides to fast-track that Blue Beetle movie. I'd have Jaime Reyes (the third Blue Beetle) be the main character while Ted Kord (the second one) mentors him, kinda like the DC Rebirth run of BB. You can even have an homage to Dan Garret (the first one), with being Ted's own mentor and friend. Granted, I'm still uneasy with DC's movie efforts unlike Marvel, but still.
Though let's be real, doing Blue Beetle kinda requires a bigger context. Eventually, they'd need to do the Reach plot.
Jaime is kinda stuck in the same place as Raven where their origin story kinda requires a larger network of characters and an established universe to work in the first place
I didn't think there could be a sadder death than cancer for Mar-Vell. And then dying in the desert in the middle of nowhere happened. I dunno. That left me feeling uneasy.
@Kevin Byrnes Nice projection here.
Well the MCU already had death by cancer with Meredith Quill in Guardians of the Galaxy so yeah they would obviously have to change it. I admit I'm not as big a fan of the Marvel Captain Marvel legacy and from what I do know about it don't mind the changes as much but I know the original still has fans and yeah this should be a more legacy passing film then it wound up being.
@@DianaGohan Her getting her powers from Mar-vell in some sort of accident she is responsible for, having developed a relationship with him, and him getting sick/die because of the power transfer is such a compelling and original origin story. It would actually work to Bree Larson's dramatic background if written well. The quippy, girl-power female lead is becoming a trope that in my opinion demeans women, not resembling how most woman would act in those same scenarios
@@Raymal100 Honestly I think we are due for more movies starring female heroes with much bigger flaws and actual problems and arcs to get through that can be as troubled and messed up as any guy's hero journey. This is especially true after Mulan 2020 which though not as bad as other Disney remakes does make it clear that even if Hollywood finally is more fine giving female heroes their own action movies isn't letting them develop their own personas and problems like they should. This is especially ironic because honestly a lot of shows nowadays even ones for kid get giving their female character flaws and issues and problems to work on to make them better people. Amphibia Infinity Train, Owl House etc. Weird how movies have yet to catch up to that.
@@DianaGohan It would be boring if stories about female leads weren't explored more.
I think that at least when it comes to movies the budget dictates the choices concerning how they portray women compared to tv. Shows generally have some wiggle room if the pilot is approved and if they are still writing as the season airs. They have a chance to develop the character in another way that might develop more viewership. Movies have one shot to do what they need. "Strong female character" is their safest bet given the bias of film journalism.
It's funny too how closely "strong female characters" behave in more traditionally masculine or manly ways (not that they can't ever, it's more complex generally). It reinforces a patriarchal understanding of strength despite the claims of being "feminists."
Wonder Woman did a fairly good job of developing Diana as a real strong female character who is also an individual with flaws and development.
Instead of a captain marvel movie, we got space Karen
I loved Carol as Ms.Marvel but she's been completely ruined by civil war 2, the mcu and the dumb choices they made with her movies.
Ms. Marvel was amazing
Civil War 2 is what made stop reading Marvel comics, I had already given up on DC, but this was Marvel last straw for me, these endless stories need to end, it is getting ridiculous nowadays.
Yes she was one of my favorite before they ruined her with Captain Marvel, it wasn't that bad at first (her interaction with Spider-Man is very good read, you can they they are genuinely good friend), the same goes with X-23, Marvel just keep ruining good characters.
Not to mention she had her own unique, easy to spot and recognize suit but now has a generic red blue gold with a star uniform lol.
oh man. love that Brian Michael Bendis huh.
Antman's legacy in the comics is kinda funny. He never lives it down and used as an ad hominem. "Hank, remember that time you slapped your wife?" Cancel Culture in comic form. 😂
The funny thing is that they allowed their heroes to be flawed individuals, like with Tony being an alcoholic and having to deal with his inner demons as much with outer demons . Why the hell couldn't Hank also be a flawed person? It's not like he and the story supported that slap, both acknowledged it as an awful thing. Nowadays they gotta be perfect flawless beings and yet people complain about superman being "perfect"
You know what's even more funny Peter Parker struck Mary Jane while being in the right state mind there was no fan backlash
Honestly I’d rip on hank pym more for creating Ultron domestic abuse is awful no doubt but Hank Pym is dropped the ball hard by creating that genocidal robot
Wasn't that in the Ultimate universe?
@@ShiftyGuy777 Late but I think it's both, also iirc doesn't Hank have bipolar disorder?
Peter Parker going to Ben Reilly actually worked. It's just because th advertising department drew out th clone saga for another few years than it needed to be.
The REAL problem with Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel, she established YEARS ago in the comics that she never wanted the name bcuz she didn't want to be in his shadow; hence she chose Ms. Marvel. What Marvel Comics NEEDS to do is reveal that the Carol Danvers' Captain Marvel is a impostor, maybe a Skrull, and that the REAL Carol is STILL Ms. Marvel locked away somewhere, maybe a Skrull ship, and Kamala's Ms. Marvel discovers this, frees her and the two overthrow the evil Captain Carol. Real Carol resumes being Ms. Marvel and Kamala, who took the name Ms. Marvel without actually EARNING it, now has to make a new name for herself while Monica Rambeau resumes the moniker on Captain Marvel since FAKE Carol stole it from her in the first place.
Marvel Girl hasn't been used by Jean Grey in a long time.
Maybe Kamala can use that instead.
Marvel would never dare make their queen brie Larson a bad guy
That would be cheap.
It's wouild be better if they adknowledge their f*** up, wich was kind of the case in her current comics by Kelly Thomspon.
Yeah sure, what Marvel NEEEDS to do is retcon years of comic book history away as a Skrull in disguise. Yep because we all know that has always been a good thing.
I like the way they did Ant-Man in the MCU
I also love the fact they had Paul rudd play him
I really hate that Hank's character is forever sullied by that one instance when it wasn't meant to be that way.
Have a gander at this...
jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html/
P.S.) Earth's Mightiest Heroes (the animated series) Hank Pym is the best version/adaptation of him, same with Ultron from that series.
Kinda have to blame Stan Lee for saying "keep it it, if it shock the readers, you're doing something right ." ( paraphrasing)
@@Wolf10media
Quite true. Stan is unfortunately very fond of exaggeration/drama.
Also, as much as I love John Buscema and his art style or any style that emulates his (in this case, Bob Hall's) this is one instance where following the script word by word would've been a better decision.
To think Peter Parker barley survived it. Granted there were bigger issues at hand when that happened and was overlooked in time.
@@Hillthugsta Peter gets overlooked cause he took ownership in what he did. He was really hurt knowing that he laid a finger on Mary Jane in that way. And she forgave him. How long it took. I do not know. And it also helps that Spider-man is more likeable than Ant-man. Ultimate Marvel added more fuel to the fire. He's so cartoonishly abusive he nearly belong in a lifetime network movie.
@@Hillthugsta
I hate bringing that up but yeah.
Think about this too; Pete is way stronger than Hank is, at least in regular size. So that must've really hurt for the (then pregnant) MJ.
But, as pointed out here previously, Pete gets a pass on the basis that he regretted / owned up to it and that he's overall a more likeable character than Hank overall.
I still really hate how they made that ONE INSTANCE of Hank swinging at Jan become the crux of his character. Creating Ultron was a bigger sin and is more significant to his overall character than that.
Both cases though lack the one element to make both "wife beaters". That being the essence of habitual / repeated instances.
It was a ONE and UNINTENTIONAL INSTANCE for both.
Ultimate Hank Pym though is a scumbag. I just wish they never even made that punk.
Best actor in Captain Marvel is that cat
Samuel L Jackson?
Definitely, because that cat doesn’t speak terrible dialogue
@@spider-nerd yeah
The last time Nick Fury trusted someone, he lost an eye.
And then it turned out to be a cat.
That cat is the best actor in any movie.
I loved the first Ant Man film and I much prefer MCU Hank to comics
Also an idea is to bring it back even further to Captain Marvel being set in the 80's and have Monica being the secondary protagonist to the male Mar-Vel and have Monica be the next captain
One reason I'd willingly rewatch Ant-Man and Ant-Man and the Wasp until I'm red then blue from laughter. Both films *honored* the legacy of Hank Pym, even though his one mishap forever haunts him (Shooter should've requested it be fixed, deadline or no). I like Carol's Captain Marvel...in Avengers Assemble where she's basically Hal Jordan with boobs, but that's not saying much. Rewatching Earth's Mightiest Heroes and Carol is 1000-fold better than Assemble or even the MCU version.
Don't forget about Future Avengers Captain Marvel.
@@harlannguyen4048 Never watched it, so I wouldn't know how good or bad she is in it.
@@jvstice56 She's more like Wonder Woman in that show.
Captain Marvel looks like the Ultimate Karen with that M.I.S.T.Y.M Haircut 😂
I didn't know about Monica's role in the old comics.
I really want to read those.
Thanks for the video
That part about Carol maybe not existing in the square enix avengers universe didn't age well.
It would be cool if Monica was the Captain Marvel of the MCU with Carol being the successor
Isn’t she mrs marvel?
Dominic The Donkey I’m confused who’s the Muslim one?
In one hand you have a likeable goofball on the other you have a lady with big ego.
Yeah.
I prefer the first one.
Overall I agree. I think the point about Cap Marvel being on the Endgame poster is silly considering her movie came out the very same eyar, and that's just cross promotion more than anything.
I think DC should do a Flash movie similar to Ant-Man's premise. Wally West taking over the mantle his uncle left him, who plays a crucial part in the movie universe
Except the cross-promotion is already worked in naturally to the Captain Marvel movie with it being part of the MCU in the first place, and Endgame needed no cross promotion as it was the culmination of the whole franchise. She shouldn't be bigger on the poster than the core Avengers. Also, by your logic Ant Man should _still_ be bigger on the poster than Carol.
To be fair, the Avengers game did show Kamala's room which had a poster of Captain Marvel in it, so theyve not completely neglected it. Still likely to be shite, but not the point xD
I always say that Black Widow should've gotten her movie that year instead of Captain Marvel cuz it seems that Natasha is the only female hero the MCU can get right in terms movies and let's is not forget that trainwreck Marvel gave us Elektra
@Confusing Zark It what regard?
@@Hillthugsta Marvel producing the movies themselves instead of letting Fox, Sony and Lionsgate fuck them up.
@@almightycinder Thats what I had assumed. Just wanted to be sure... TBH, Lionsgate had a pretty good track record. Their stuff ranged from passable (Punisher/Warzone) to pretty damn good. (Dr. Strange, Planet Hulk, Hulk Vs)
They originally offered the role of mar-vell to Keanu Reeves
Now That would've been something to see
Did you hear the story of Captain Marvel beating the Beyonders, God Emperor Doom, and the One Above All with a fucking Pencil. A FUCKING PENCIL!
Maybe in an alternate universe he said yes!
>saying Carol was the most popular version of the character
The 12 cancellations of her series says otherwise
Will always be Monica that holds the rank of most popular Captain Marvel and she never asked for the title and gave it away the first chance she got
I've followed the Ant-Man film since it was a pre-mcu movie. The only reason they chose Scott was because that was what Edgar Wright wanted. He'd wanted to do the film for years and because it was him, an A-List, beloved director, they let him be possessive over it, to the point of Joss Whedon having to take Hank and Janet out of his Avengers plans. Ironically the Avengers success meant they could afford losing Wright and moved forward without him, but still using his screenplay with edits for the MCU.
Dude, there was a Captain Marvel porn parody that had Monica as HER HERO SELF AND WITH POWERS!!! And the suit looked pretty damn good on top of it! Why the hell can a porn movie do it, but a multi billion dollar company won’t?!
That parody even had Carol more convincing with her conflict about having amnesia and being lied to be the Kree about the Skrulls! What the shit?!
In there a scene with Carol and Monica having a lesbien sexe scene...
And it was reveal at the end that Nick Fury was watching...
And din't even masturbate, he just watch them, while drinking a coke.
I almost die in laughter what that reveal.
When the actors in a porn parody have more emotion than the original movie, you got a problem.
@@KombatGod Even the Skrulls look better. I didn’t even care at all about the sex since everything else was well made
@@MrSafior Btw he wasn't just drinking any coke. It was a Big Kahuna Burger cup, from Pulp Fiction! Just throwing a little crossover trivia out there.
I still really don't get why they didn't go with Monica, she would have worked so much better than Carol in every aspect. She'd be their first female led super hero movie, she's a black woman as well so they have another black main character on top of T-Challa and because she has nothing to do with the Kree and was entirely her own thing, there was no mantle for her to earn as well. Hell, I remember rumors where Captain Marvel was going to defeat Thanos and if it was Monica that would actually make more sense. Correct me if I am wrong but her powers is that she not only absorbs energy, she also becomes that energy and can use it in battle too. At one point in Avengers vs Justice League she drains Kyle Rayner's Green Lantern ring and is able to use that energy for herself. With this in mind, I can easily see her getting a hold of the Infinity Gauntlet, absorbing its energy and essentially becoming a human Infinity Gauntlet to battle Thanos with the real gauntlet. I would have accepted that and that would have been bad ass. Instead we get the 7th Captain Marvel, started out as a love interest for the original, most infamous story is her getting mind controlled and kidnapped by a dude from another dimension who makes her give birth to him and in both Civil War comics she was a shit head who happily arrests people without trials for nothing. They chose the blond haired, blue eyed white fascist Captain Marvel over the first black woman to join and lead the Avengers, and they want to act like it was a progressive move. Also there desire to remove every male rolemodel for the movie not only removed Mar-Vell, it also took Monica's father away too. According to one YTer called Youngrippa, Monica in the comics has a good relationship with her father and admires him...yet Marvel didn't add that in. Surely that would be empowering, right? Isn't it a big stereotype of black fathers being absent and black mothers having to raise their kids alone? So not only did they skip over her for a white woman and make her idolize a white woman, they made her story fall more in line with a stereotype. Only woke Marvel could do this, they retcon Ice Man to be gay then make him a stereotype and this is apparently not the first time they've done this so I can believe their half assed attempts at being woke ending up more offensive than they wanted.
Because Monica has zero actual connection to the Kree. She just had the name for a short time and mainly because Marvel needed to push out another Captain Marvel comic and didn't want to rename Mrs Marvel into Captain Marvel at this point. You can just as well take Jessica Drew and say "okay, that's Captain Marvel now". This is not just about scoring diversity points, it is about doing what makes sense.
@@swanpride Okay and what have they done with the Kree besides make them villains in like two movies? If they aren't going to do something interesting with them then why even use the one that has the connection? And I think it was for Diversity points considering they made such a big deal about her being a woman. Remember that the trailer had 'Her' before an O faded in to make it "Hero". It was all about woke points, so Monica seemed like the more logical choice for that.
Carol is about as interesting and a lot more popular around the time the decision was made.
The point about monica's powers is true, but carol has energy absorption powers which she can absorb to redirect or amp her strength. She doesn't turn into energy like Monica, but she's connected to a White Hole/singularity and has more gravity powers, ability to make black holes and access to larger spectrums of energy instead of just electromagnetic. Carol can basically swallow a sun and has better energy absorption overall.
With monica there's no actual conflicts. There's no lore you can tie her to. There's very little she has to overcome in the comics except her fear of water which came after she lost her avengers leadership in 294. Her parents love her and give her all the support. The avengers respect her right away and eventually give her the avengers Leadership.
Carol also has more personal conflicts in her story, like dealing with an abusive dad and overcoming sexism both in her personal life and in the military. When she got her powers in the comics she was split into 2 beings with DID and it contrasted her humanity with the kree personality which she overcame and had to deal with a bloodthirsty side. Even the story of rape became a story of neglect on the avenger's part. Her identity getting sucked out by rogue became a sad tale of her having all of her memories but none of the emotions. All of these led to an incredible battle with addiction/alcohol and redemption in Kang Dynasty.
And Civil War 1, there was a law that was passed but even the movie version didn't have trials anyway... mainly because trials are about proving innocence but if you weren't registered there wasn't much doubt as to why (but some like speedball got trials). The aftermath also was basically a commentary on police brutality and overreaches of authority. It was an amazing arc for her to go from arresting people for breaking the law to letting them go at every turn. (and monica was right there with carol in Civil war II arresting people for no reason so whatever but that whole story is terrible anyway)
Also while monica did lead the avengers, you may as well say monica's most infamous story is NEXTWAVE where she's a Z-list has been who's a completely bitter shithead (good book though, great character too) or how she lost her avengers leadership in 15 issues flat.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins In two movies and one TV show. And in any case: We don't know exactly what the plans with the Kree and the Skrulls are just yet, but everything points in the direction that both will play a huge role in the next arc. Feige has said again and again that they want to go more Cosmic.
I think the Earth's Mightiest Heroes episode of Captain Marvel's origin woulda been a good basis for a movie.
I've also said for a while that if Marvel wanted to do their diversity inclusive Cap marvel movie, they woulda gone with Monica and Carol, who didn't even deserve her own movie.
EMH was great. It had the best versions of Carol, Hank Pym, and Ultron outside of the comics.
EMH was pretty much MARVEL'S JLU It was that damn good.
Can we just agree that Carol Danvers was more likeable when she was Ms. Marvel, before she became Captain Marvel?
Mar-vel is the best Captain Marvel!
Nah I like mrs marvel better
Carol has better stories. Look at The Life of Captain Marvel or Civil War 2
Mar-vel is underrated
@@zoroack792 how civil war 2 made it better???its just make her look worst
What you're saying about how Ant-Man handled Scott and Hank kind of reminds me of My Hero Academia. Like Scott, Midoriya is the protagonist and main character of the story but all the overall obstacles and villains he faces, like with Hank, relate back to his mentor All Might, because it's his legacy he's inheriting and his fight he's continuing on.
I agree with most of this video, but I'd rather Monica be a kid in the 90's, with the potential to become Spectrum in later films as an active member of the Avengers, than be an adult in the 90s, only to be an old, in-active mentor later on, like what they did with Goliath in Ant Man and The Wasp.
To be fair, Carol doesn't age in the timespan, so they could easily find a way to do the same with Monica.
My idea would be that Monica would be an adult in the film, then in the post credits scene, we see her lying in a hospital bed in a coma after an incident at a power plant (AKA when she got her powers). For whatever reason, she hasn't aged a single bit, (most likely due to her powers), and the scene ends with her waking up.
Also 90s to 2020 is 30 years. They could have made her a teenager or a young adult and she would be fine as a Modern Avenger
My main problem with CM is that Carol Never struggles. Never faces an enemy that is too hard for her and never faces any situation that is too difficult for her psyche to handle.
It takes 10 minutes to turn from a fanatic Kree Lieutenant to the Skrull savior. I mean why would she believe anything her enemy told her while holding her best friend hostage?
She has no growth, nothing. I usually complain when a movie arc does a "circle" where stuff happened and is happening but in the end nothing changed and nothing got added in (for example The secondary plot of the Last Jedi) But Captain Marvel is worse than a circle, it is a "dot". The whole movie does nothing to her character.
Superheroes are interesting because they visualize the every man's problems. They allow our depression and misfortune of our lives take shape as villains who the heroes fight!
Karol in the movie captain marvel faces nothing. There isn't any challenge that takes her less than 3 minutes to clear. I understand that she is powerful and no enemy can stand to her.
Thor in Thor 1 trashes the destroyer easily when he gets his powers back. But the movie is interesting because we saw Thor grow as a character and learn humility. Villians can be powerless
and still be threatening Ozymandias was a just a man but he won in Watchmen despite facing a being which calling it a god doesn't do it justice.
How I would fix Captain Marvel?
Well I would have her not believe the skrull leader and pretend that she joins him. Only to betray him and all his people thinking that they are an invading force. She rushes in the Fortress and there she kills some Skrulls only to find out that the Skrull leader is correct. Then the rest of the movie can continue as normal with Karol realizing the mess she made and now she has to make up for it. Her "Am I the bad guy?" moment. That would be way better than what we got.
Ant Man and Ant Man and the Wasp are the most underrated movies in the MCU. If Ant Man and The Wasp came out before Infinity War, it would have been really well recieved
I'm pleased this came out even if I didn't expect it. I think that may be a strong point with your channel Snake
You tore into captain Marvel at the end. I do agree with you though. All they had to do was respect the source material more and make her like able. Like come on marvel has amazing female heroes like black widow who everyone loves. Then they give us the downgrade who is suppose to be the lord and savior Carol. And this is after Wonder Woman at that
This is the kind of analysis you just don't see detailed and explored on CZcams all that often. Which is a big shame because I love deep dives on comics. Another great job and I hope to see more great content like this!
Thumbs up for a fellow fan of Brian Reed's Ms Marvel run! Still the best series Carol has starred in.
The Antman movies are so underrated.
Hank Pim looks awesome as Ultron
I need more 4th snake MCU videos in my life
The Captain Marvel bit was nice, but it's really nice that someone is giving credit to the Ant-Man movies
Disney has became the Bethesda of Film industry: Too concerned to follow trends and social agenda and silence any constructive feedback because "we created your childhood favorite game so shut the hell up"
Doom eternal
i know this is 8 months that i'm late to respond but, using "bethesda" is inaccurate when you look at it, since i think you are referring to the last wolfenstein then i think if i recall it the devs of dishonored who worked on it instead of ID while beth only published, and again inaccurate since if you know anything about disney is that they aren't concerned about feedback or agenda or trends as augustus sinclair from bioshock 2 would put it "they came to the web to strike it rich" they are essentially like any company an' they seek what? profit and money simple as that also i liked the "wE cReAtEd yOuR cHiLdHoOd fAvOrItE gAmE" kinda reminds me of the buzzword they throw on R/gaming
@@d_bstudios2038 ID software
@@ScoutTrooperMan waitress, there is a lot of salt in this comment
@@Otherfabbros Strange Sir I only see the plate being full of nothing perhaps i mistook your order
Last time I was this early liu kang was alive
He still is tho?... I mean... I get it but like...
Yeah little out of date just I think it’s funny
Carol Danver's Captain Marvel is the spokesperson for feminism and strong women - ironically they progressively make her look more and more masculine in redesigns. Or appropriately, depending on your perspective. Hilarious.
I'm honestly surprised she didn't roll with a butch cut in the live action to drive the point home. She also has no ass, which makes me wonder if the producers are somehow in on some joke.
.....You’re joking right?
@@mythicpeyote probably
Carol was always an avatar of feminism. Thus the use of "Ms.", which she would aggressively correct if someone said "Miss Marvel." ("That's MIZZ Marvel, to you!") Which is something that women used to do from the 70s p through to the 90s.
Heres what Captain Marvel should've done, you start off with a Ms Marvel Movie where Carol Becomes Ms Marvel, then a Binary or Warbird Movie Carol enters her Binary Powers, and then a Captain Marvel Movie where Carol becomes the new Captain Marvel in honor of her old kree friend Mar-Vell.
I won't call these bad decisions per se, but this is how things can get sloppy by changing things to surprise the audience for the sake thereof
My opinion on Captain Marvel: People are unnecessarily hating on her for completely illogical and unfashionable reasons.
I personally liked ant-man scott Lang and his movie was really good
With the way the promotional work is handled it does have superiority energy versus equality energy. It could have been poignant to say "man or woman a hero is a hero regardless". Which you'd think also be more inline with Disney's brand of being as centered as possible when taking a stance. The whole idea of not upsetting anyone as much as possible to maximize profits.
7:24 and also it has legacy
Kinda funny that a alive cat is best part of the movie than the main hero of the captain marvel movie.😂
Regarding Hank Pym, it just goes to show you, in both comics and real life people will remember you more for the bad then the good you did in life. It's honestly pretty sad and shows how poor humanity can be in general.
CM had so much plotential:/ but leaving that aside there's one thing i'll never understand, Disney likes to sell toys ¿right? So the fact that they didn't give their PILOT MC a kick ass starscream looking plane says a lot...
How dare you call The Don a douchebag. He was on his way to give orphans a ride on his motorcycle.
I would watch antman people get on that movie but that's what also makes it fun it's kinda like spiderman it doesn't really take itself to seriously while captain marvel was just a super saiyan with amnesia
Let's all pretend we don't know why they didn't make Monica Captain Marvel.
I think a problem with the vid is that it assumes the they were trying to write Carol as a legacy character.
From my POV.As far as the writers are conerned Mar-vell doesnt exist and the legacy of Captain Marvel starts with Carol.
I guess the idea of what is supposed to be a feminst character being a part of a mans legacy was a little to embrassing for them.
Kinda makes me wonder how they'd handle Jessica Drew. I have a few ideas how I think it could happen but still curious how they would actually do it
I don't get why anybody has been so interested in pushing Carol Danvers as a character in the 2010s. We also saw this in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes where she is introduced and is way more powerful than the rest of the team (though thankfully she didn't render them pointless) and I really don't get why of all the female characters who could have been picked for the MCU, she was the one they were interested in.
From what I have read, there were plans to give Carol Danvers her own movie for a long time but Ike Perlmutter kept getting in the way. It feels like this was something somebody wanted to make for Phase 1 or early Phase 2, it got pushed back and nobody brought it up to the standards of Phase 3. Or possibly the problem is that well, since there wasn't much to do with Carol from the comics, nobody had any idea what to do with her personality wise. MCU Hank Pym is still a jerk like his comic counterpart but his worst traits are played down, him being a jerk is fun to watch but the sequel emphasized because he is such a jerk almost nobody can stand him. Carol doesn't have the downright villainous actions of her comic counterpart, but that doesn't leave her with much else.
You must mean the rest of the team when Thor was mostly in Asgard?
My only guess is she is a prime representative of feminism. Both the character and her actor. She embodies precisely what feminism entails, and you may find this odd but I'm grateful for that since it means this message is getting out to more people.
On Hank, I feel another reason he is downplayed is demonstrated in the Wasp followup movie. The film made it extremely obvious he was inferior to the Wasp and she possesses multi-mastery in various disciples. Science, technology, strong willed with no obvious character flaws, martial arts expert. Its all about making women hyper competent with the men associated with them being regarded as lessers. Captain Marvel takes it to its logical conclusion. Even Nick Fury was made to be a joke.
The reason I suspect they started pushing Carol was that they wanted their own Wonder Woman. At that time, she was the closest who could fit that criteria during that time Marvel was also making a hard push for Jessica Drew, but I suspect The Spider Woman name held her back.
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Oh man. They better not do her dirty when her show pops up.
Thank you I think im the only one who actually likes Ant-man movies
well after watching wandavision captain marvel still makes no sense because monica has got the powers that shes got but its not explained at all its just there
When I saw Captain Marvel I didn't even notice Mar-Vell was in the film. To be honest I only saw it because a friend told me that Fury lost his eye to a cat and I thought he was trolling me. I only learned about them when talking to someone online that mentioned Mar-Vell being gender swapped and me correcting them thinking they had mixed up Mar-Vell and Carol as the same person.
Mar-Vell deserved better. And yes Jude Law should've played Mar-Vell.
I Really think that the Ant Man series should be more treated in the comics like with Spider-Man, Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Man, Deadpool, and the rest. Ant Man has so much of a complex mythos and lore. Things that make Hank Pym, Scott Lang, and the legacy more relatable and compelling. I Really hope they do this someday.
Ever notice how useless Carol is to the MCU?
Honestly, the only useful thing she did was protect other planets during the series, and that was off-screen.
Everything else could've been given to the other characters.
I'm pretty sure that Rocket could've saved Tony and Nebula trough remote control or something.
And pretty much every single fight scene that she was in should've been given to Bruce/Hulk as payback for beating they received in Infinity War from Thanos.
Seriously, Wanda gets an entire scene of her nearly killing Thanos while Hulk and Drax get literally nothing?
Don't get me wrong, that scene was awesome, but still.
While I agree, largely because I dislike characters that can be boiled down to "physical god with bland personality", to be fair Hulk was already crippled by the time the end fight started and Drax at least got to help fight Thanos already on Titan in the previous movie.
@@MusicoftheDamned Hulk shouldn't have been handicapped in the first place. If anything he should have gotten a power boost after he used the guantlet.
Well, other than rescuing Tony Starks live and taking out Thanos ship...yeah, completely useless. Just rescued pretty much every hero there is.....
@@Hillthugsta Shrug. I didn't write the movie. Hulk getting a power boost would be completely inconsistent with The Gauntlet crippling Thanos when also "undid" something anyway, especially given MCU Thanos was shown in _Infinity War_ to be stronger than Hulk. So if anything, then you should blame that movie.
@@MusicoftheDamned In the very first Avenger movie it was stated that the stoned emitted Gamma Radiation the thing that gave birth to Hulk and the only mother thing that fuels his power. Which is why you rarely saw people use the stones without some protection or it was contained in another item.
When Captain marvel was about to come out I actually thought that Jude Law’s character was Mar-vell
I do hope they do an og antman movie so we ca explore his relationship and how the tech effected his mind and how he recovered.
If the MCU wants to stay relevant, on way is to have a more grounded film in regards to how characters act all, so a more ‘real’ film, if you know what I mean. If they can truly make the future of the MCU colourful, as in being really diverse in what it explores and how it does it, i think it could b great
Kind of the sad thing is, at least in regards to the comics, Carol might be the last good legacy character we may ever get. I have three guidelines for what tends to make for a good legacy character (based off the Wally West Flash).
1. The successor is someone who has a long history with the original. Check. Carol has been a part of Mar-Vel's history for a significant number of years, both in-universe and out.
2. The original's departure from the role was done with respect. Check. Mar-Vel's death was a tragedy but he's still remembered as a hero and when Carol eventually took up the mantle it was done out of respect for her old mentor and friend.
3. The mantle pass is intended by the company to be a permanent change. Check. Marvel and Disney want Captain Marvel to basically be their Wonder Woman. They're not undoing the change anytime soon.
Like I said, these are guidelines, not necessarily requirements. Jaime Reyes and Miles Morales had nothing to do with either character before they took up the mantles of Blue Beetle and Spider-Man but they still ended up working out pretty well in the end anyway, in part because they paid so much respect to the people who came before them.
Carol might be the last good legacy character we get because Marvel and DC seem to have no interest in permanent legacy passes anymore. Most of the time it's either cheap gimmicks meant to get people talking or part of a single storyline and the original is always brought back within a couple of years, and fans tend to be exited about that because the way the original is shuffled off is rarely respectful or anything they'd want the character they love so much to go out on.
So is vick the question because I'm to lazy to search it up
Thanks for mentioning the MC2. People rarely do.
I heard on Twitter you lost your mk license or something and people hate you for giving opinions and make fun and say we shouldn't listen to you because you grew up in the 3d ere like bruh not everyone grew up in the arcade ere I grew up in the 3d ere so I don't see the hate you honestly I don't the hate you
Get from people and if not true ill delete
Huh the4thsnake talks about superhero comic books then video games, I was being sarcastic. At least someone gave Antman real appreciation then Captain Marvel, I wasn’t sarcastic, that was for real.
Can u make a critique on mk vs dc
Black Widow really should have been the first female lead film
Yes! I love black widow!
Why.....why did her movie have to get delayed?!?!? 😭😭😭💆
CM should have three main heroes in the movie, first the og CM, Monica Rambeau the 2nd, and Carol who should be ms marvel. The title would be Captian marvel's.
Can u please do a dark phoenix Adaptive Difficulty please 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Could be interesting. But it would require me to watch Dark Phoenix and rewatch X3.
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They always bring back the fact that Hank hit his wife , despite the fact of his mental problems
I loved the Ant-Man films especially the first one ..
But even looking at these clips I can’t really remember much of Captain Marvel just that I was very underwhelmed leaving the cinema ...
11 minutes of truth right here
Carol Danvers when not being pulled down by her awful rape storyline was one of my favourite DC heroines and I loved her particular powerset in the video games where she plays Ms.Marvel...now while her taking on the Captain Marvel name wasn't a bad idea nor was the change from skimpy iconic costume to kinda generic militaristic one that bad... her character shift to short haired psycho Feminazi really fucked up her character and the love I used to have for her(Civil War 2 was the worst I've seen and that only because I dropped any related media with this version of Carol since reading it). I'd say the Captain Marvel perfectly encapsulates the version of 616 Carol that Civil War 2 and the story's that followed portrayed her to be and the actress Brie Larson has proved once again that Marvel is fantastic at picking actors who embody the character they are chosen to play( RBDJ as Stark, all of the Chris's as their respective characters, and so on) honestly I hated the movie but oddly was satisfied with the casting of Brie as the Captain Marvel Carol, even though I dislike both Brie Larson as a person and Captain Marvel as a character.
Dick Grayson is my favorite superhero so that hypothetical you proposed genuinely disgusts me
As it should.
Are you aware that, if you do the math, by the time of Avengers: Endgame, Carol is 51-56 years old? I guess age-defying immortality is also one of her powers now?
I am still sad that Jude Law couldn't play YonRogg and MarVell.
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The Miz
7:46 we saw there
Justice for Genis Vel
From 6:21 to 6:25, what comic is that picture is from?
"Life of Captain Marvel" I believe.
@@AsgardRageGod oh ok. Thank you.
The real captain marvel should have been The Don
You know, I wish I kept up with comics. I also wish I had the time or care to.
Also antman gave us the greatest marvel character Luis
Can someone explain to me why they used Captain Marvel's star uniform for the Kree soldiers?
Part of the problem is Marvel tried everything for Carol, they changed her too much I lost track what the hell she is in beginning. In the end nobody cared about her. Still her best remembered positive era is mid 2000s Ms.Marvel era. She is not Marvel's Wonder Woman, she is not feminist icon, she is not an inspiring hero, Marvel tried all of them but failed and she is still remembered for that infamous Avengers issue.
She's a feminist Icon, she even start being a journalist for a feminist journal in her first solo séries.
People should stop associate feminism with loony on twitter, that just make one dimensional jerk who is afraid of women.
I really don't like captain marvel in the MCU.
I'm fairly certain No one does
Do a adaptive difficulty on harley quinn
All in all, we can all say that:
Antman = Good
Captain Marvel = Fucking dog shit
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