A 3D printed single piece guitar neck?! ft. CR-30 belt printer
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In this video I show the process of making a 3D printed guitar neck out of one piece on the Creality CR-30 belt printer, AKA Naomi Wu's 3DPrintMill. I like to print functional things and this is the first test case for the Proper extruder I designed a while ago. I haven't printed the body yet because that's already done before. In a future video I will design a custom guitar body and make a fully 3D printed guitar!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:22 The plan
1:01 Laser
1:41 Proper Extruder
2:14 Designing the neck
4:36 3D printing
7:32 Extruder test result
8:28 Adding the hardware
11:18 Adding the strings
12:38 How well does it play?
15:37 Wrapping up - Věda a technologie
Seeming as the neck is translucent, adding LED's to light up the neck would look really cool!
It certainly does! I had an idea years ago to add LED's to a neck to help with learning. One LED under each tone and connect the guitar to Guitar Pro. That would be a next level challenge though xD
RGB guitar!
@@properprinting Definitely doable though! And you could add LED’s to the body that flash or fade in time with the beat for strumming and rhythm, so many possibilities!
@@properprinting You better do this now. That sounds awesome AF! And thats the day i'd start to actually learn to play guitar with a "guide" like that haha
@@properprinting I actually thought of making an independent attachment (basically just a bit more than gluing the LED strip on the neck), but for the fully 3D printed one you need to embed it. Can't wait to see it. Congrats on the extruder!
Printing something functional on the belt printer was a fun first test for the Proper Extruder! This neck looks so surrealistic and now I have to design a guitar body as well of course. Leave a comment what color you think would be best for it! Purple? Yellow?
You should try one of those colour gradient/rainbow type filaments for the body. That’d look great I reckon.
@@thaphreak I get tropical vibes from that which I like!
Red ;) also..very cool work on the extruder there. I like it. Congrats
send that neck to stephan from cnc kitchen. he is cnc routing a guitar body
One of those glitter-like purple color would look great with that neon green neck.
This is so awesome!
Thanks Naomi! The possibilities this printer enables is so cool!
I think you may be best suited to print the neck separate from the fret board with ABS or ASA and then Acetone weld together. This allows you to insert the truss rob easier, and also gives you the option to print both with a little extra thickness on the "flat side" so you can sand back to flat. Also if you print the neck part like you did in this video but the fret board either flat on the bed or with the other side on the bed, you will have contradicting layer lines and warping stresses. Also, to be really "metal," you could design the 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15, etc fret dots as screw heads and fasten the fret board to the neck with inserts to help with clamping the two parts together.
Thanks for your suggestion! I like that idea, especially the screw heads. I think that if I fine tune that hole for the truss rod I don't need to give it all to get it in xD I like to minimize post processing
Love seeing your Brewers logo! Teddy Higuera for the win!!!
ABS is not as hard as PLA, and between the two.. PLA beats ABS for this particular use, hardness is required.
And, add some carbon fiber rods. (like what Kiesel does to their necks)
@@squidcaps4308 the most important thing in this application isn't hardness, it's how well it resists bending without cracking, which could arguably have just as much to do with the way it's infilled as the material itself.
This is great! I love that it worked well for you and that you just casually used your own extruder design! I’d be keen to see a transparent neck to show off the truss rod and the infill pattern.
Honestly, I think the tuning stability issue is more from the cheap floating bridge than the neck. Stock strat bridges are already notorious for tuning issues, and those kit guitars come with junk hardware that just makes the problem even worse.
I could see this being a lot more functional on a tele. Simpler design with a stationary bridge would remove a lot of variables. I would be super curious to see what would happen if you sent it off to get it scanned on a PLEK machine, lol.
Yes it was terrible, but the easiest guitar I could get my hands on to proof the principle. Eventually it will be nothing like a strat with waaaay better hardware ;)
The tuning stability is probably the strings not being fully seated in the tuners. Since the neck is more flexible than it should be, you're bending the neck every time you fret a note.
@TriVos Ahren A year? You're optimistic xD
@TriVos Ahren If you reinforce it, yes.
@TriVos Ahren I was thinking more of glass fiber reinforced plastic. Something that's used on power tools and the like.
FANTASTIC BUILD!!!!
Thanks Joel!
Thinking about printing guitar neck for about 2 years, since i discovered 3d print and especially the printmill...and somebody finaly did it, awesome job!
I like the way you figure printing a guitar neck isn’t hard enough so you decide to design your own extruder to go with it. Epic. Love the vid.
Just add as many variables as possible 😆
Printing a guitar neck isn't hard.
That's the next thing I'm looking for in a 3d printer, a belt system that lets you print long things. It's bound to become popular soon with many making them.
I love your channel. The content is out of the main stream and you think like I do. You're not afraid to try something even though it's not been tried before. Very cool!!
WOW, Jon. Looks great and sounds good too, you're a man of many talents. Well done!!! great content as usual.
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Awesome! I would not have guessed that this was possible. Good Job! Thanks for the fun video.
Me neither, thanks!
Amazing build, great use of a belt printer for sure! Glad it can shred!
Supervet gast! Especially your self-designed 3D print head, but all the rest is incredibly on point too, including your presentation and camerawork/editing. Big fan here!
Awesome!! Thanks man!
I love it!!! Good work as always! Awesome video man
I love when the circle of your favorite creators closes :D
This is brilliant! And a surprisingly warm clean tone!
Awesome stuff! Cool project and I also love the extruder. :)
Omg. Epic. First 3DP video i have watched with its own jamming session built in.
This surprised the heck out of me! I thought for sure that the tension of the strings would break it. And I was really surprised by how good it sounds! Awesome work man! New sub here 😎
How how how does he not have even over 100,000 subs. Let alone 500,000. His commitment and brilliance deserves it.
Purple and green go very well together.
Omg I literally thought he cut that beautiful guitar I was so shocked and then so so relieved that he didn't, this was a great video, first time seeing your content and it's great
I went through several stages of grief. A five piece laminated through neck. He couldn’t. So I knew it wasn’t real (denial), but he just kept it up for so long I started to wonder. I was angry. I then thought maybe it wasn’t a good guitar after all, so I accepted it. Not quite enough time for all 5 stages, but I was glad.
Great film. Super creative and cool build. Never thought it would work. Mahalo for sharing! : )
I've made several 3d printed instruments, in the ballpark of 20 or so and 15 of them were string instruments. Seeing this video makes me want to buy a CR-30 as this would allow me to make my instruments much larger.
That's awesome! This enables interesting possibilities for sure!
save up the pennies and buy a Modix instead. you are limited to build orientation on this belt printer. it's not the best orientation for carrying loads. im pleasantly surprised the neck didnt snap in this video. thank god for truss rods.
Absoluut goud. Love that you're keeping the failures in there too!
I think a purple body, and then playing under a black light would be psychedelic! Awesome job getting something like this made.
I think so too! Thanks :D
Well that was unexpectedly awesome! Much smoother than the average project LOL ... it has gotta be PURPLE PURPLE PURPLE!
This one went better than I expected, especially considering that I haven't had a successful print with that extruder xD
@@properprinting Amaaazing 🤩 I've just ordered the new merch too.
@@michaelcutler7481 Nice, thanks!
I've printed 3 banjos on LulzBot so far. Two piece neck (plus fretboard separately), no truss rods but used reinforcing CF or steel tubes inside the neck. Material was CF PLA. Frets were PITA in all 3 cases :D
That's awesome! I'm thinking of combining CF tubes and a truss rod to increase stiffness while being able to adjust the neck's curvature
@@properprinting Wrapping the truss rod in a (round) CF tube is an option but the trade off is that it will take out some of the neck material. That is a big deal in the banjo neck but may work fine in the guitar neck!
You can buy carbon rods to put on the sides of the truss rod to make it sturdier, then if you want to go further from 100% 3D print you could coat it in resin and put in some fiber reinforcement as well. It turns see-through so it just looks like a glossy finish.
Fyi, consider printing the next one in PETG. It'll be less likely to distort in your car and has the best creep resistance of any material I've printed so far. (i.e. better than PLA, PLA+, Nylon, EzNylon, Taulman PCTPE, TPU)
ABS/ASA is even better for the creep and heat tolerance, also usually cleaner to print compared to petg
@@lap87 Good to know, sounds like I should try it soon. ABS/ASA has significant stress-cracking issues so I'll have to test to see if it makes better springs. Mostly though, I've only recently made a heated build chamber so avoided it due to warping.
I made a petg guitar body and found that it was much too flexible to allow for tuning stability. A full neck out of such flexible material would be tough to stabilize, imo.
Superb! I ony intended to take a quick look at this video, but your personality got me hooked to the end. Subscribed.
Awesome, thanks for the sub!
The drive to your studio reminded me of a place I lived in Breukelen. Amazing neck!
I was shocked in awe seeing you sawing through the good guitar neck! :-D
My heart skipped a beat
Very cool! I've been looking for a good project for the CR-30, and also need a new guitar, so thanks for the spark!
That's awesome! Stay tuned for other interesting prints for this printer!
@@properprinting Can't wait!
So far all I see is nonsense being printed on these.
@@dangerous8333 I like to print functional things. Whether it's a belt or resin printer ;)
Honestly really impressed with this, I had my doubts about it, but well done awesome project
Thanks! I had my doubts as well xD
Thanks for the video!. You are a good man. I apreciate your charisma and the time you take to answer the comments and make those entretaining videos. I only subscribe to people that are really special. I really enjoy your hapinness when the project goes well. Have a good day! greetings from the Patagonia, Argentina!
Thanks Enzo for this awesome comment! I wish you a good day as well!
That's awesome! and you can really shred!
That's a cool freecad project. I've been wanting to print an instrument. Looks like a great place to start.
Purple
I really like this plugin! Also a lot of information on their site marzguitars.com/
I love guitars, I love 3D printing, this video is made for me. thank you!
Awesome!
Wow ive never seen something like this before this is really cool. Well done! 👏
Not much different than making a sword. You haven't seen anyone make a sword with these yet?
That was so cool. Just awesome.
Translucent purple for the base with RGB LEDs so that the colour changes as you play
Super cool! This is a great project!
That's awesome man!
You, my good man, are a genius in our time
I'm excited to see the next project
And I think a Telecaster Epoxy Resin Body with this kind of 3D printed Neck would be AWESOME too...
Very nice brother, loved it.
Fun project. I designed and 3d printed a guitar for my sister in law. It was a lot of fun
The perfectly timed jump cuts during accidental discovery have me rolling.
use the three of them to make the body! you can make it look amazing!! Very cool video. Nice job! (here in Mars we can hear your hammering, but awesome job!!)
Awesome job! Might be worth it to print the neck and the fretboard separate and then add the truss rod (maybe some reinforcing carbon fiber rods too). Also might make sense to just melt the frets in like you did with the threaded inserts. Really awesome though and love the color!
Gaaf project! Ik ben zelf al een tijdje hardware aan het 3d printen voor mijn strat, maar nooit gedacht aan een heel neck XD
In ieder geval de juiste muziek keuze!🤘
Some of that rattle could be because break angle is a bit too low. I noticed that you printed the nut with the string slots printed in. You might get better performance from a blank with hand cut slots and add a string tree.
Yes, very true! Because the nut is a 7 minute print I think it should be possible to do the tweaking in CAD. To increase the break angle I can also make the head more angled or even twist it a bit at the higher strings. I like to make use of the capabilities 3D printing offers. Thanks for your suggestions!
Interesting project, great proof of concept too.
I do believe that you'll need both the truss rod and carbon fibre reinforcing rods in the neck for longer term stability.
I fear that the neck will end up looking like a banana and no amount of truss rod adjustment will fix it.
As to how to do it - maybe take a page from Leo Fender - have 3 trenches programmed in on the back side of the neck.
Insert the various rods and then cover them over with "skunk stripes" of material that are glued in.
Another option is truss rod from the back, CF rods come in from the sides.
Suddenly watching things like this it makes me realize that's the only things that matters is learning how to play and don't care at all about the brand, the woods or whatever the guitar is made of. If its works and you can play on in, that's all what u need. The rest is jst the cover of the book
Just got mine a week ago. Love it. Took me a long time to calibrate it, but print petg on it, all day long. It's amazing the advantages of this printer beyond the obvious. You can print a tube without supports and I find many places I don't need supports because of the 45 degree slice. Fantastic.
I'm just curious, what do you print with it?
My philosophy as a metal fabricator and woodworker is anything that size I'm just going to make out of wood or metal. The time and plastic needed isn't worth it to me. Still cool, I just don't see any use for it unless printing swords or other cosplay kind of stuff I guess. I know it can be set up as a production machine that runs autonomously but I can do that on anything with a glass bed.
This guy is brave! Not even sure if it would support the pressure but decided to use 11s anyway :)
You should 3D print an entire guitar, body aswell, I think that would be really cool.
I would print the neck and the fingerboard separately, using ABS, and then use acetone to weld them together after inserting the truss rod. You'll get better quality printing that way.
The vertical conveyor belt is blowing my mind
You might be able to improve the issues with flexibility by using some carbon fiber rods either side of the truss rod channel which you could insert the same way as the truss rod. this would add more rigidity and mean that the truss rod isn't doing all the work. It might also be worth finding a way to add more support to the headstock, maybe aluminium plates on each face of the headstock would add some extra strength to help with tuning stability. A volute would also be a good idea! It's very impressive that a 3D printed guitar neck is even possible at all! I look forward to seeing more.
Look at you putting on your glasses like a mad scientist
I saw one of those belt printers in a shop and I was wondering how it worked. That thing is incredible!
Great video! If you have problem with gears you could cast them (make silicone mold) from some kind of urethane or other resin like plastic. They make them almost indestructible these days.
Thanks for your suggestion! At this moment, the PMMA-like resin works perfect. Always good to know that there are other options!
Depeding on how you do the neck, you could forgo the whole adjustable truss rod and use a graphite rod instead. Vigier does that on their guitars. String action adjustments are made on the bridge and by changing the zero fret. As per the frets, you could've done a heated arbor press, so the fret melts the plastic as it goes it. No need to print the slots.
Thanks for the info! Interesting to make the string action adjustment on the frets itself! A heated press makes things more complicated. Printing the slots improves accuracy and heated frets don't stay in place as well as the press fitted do in my experience.
My company uses dual graphene impregnated carbon fiber rods and a truss rod. The rods ensures the neck is always trying to go back to flat position but still allow just enough bend to adjust the neck if needed. I considered not using a truss rod at all but we still do for a couple of reasons. Great idea though. That would help tremendously.
Big PP (Proper Printing) energy ⚡ 🎸
The man with the best hair in the business! Nice work, Jon!
Black and green would be pretty dope.
I personally would've used a carbon fiber reinforced filament, but glad to know it works without it as well. I had an idea for this too but the body be printed as well (not as one piece yet tho)
man went straight for the 0.11s on a plastic neck lmao I respect it
I’m impressed & it’s gotten better than a Gibson neck
Truly epic! My vote is for purple on the body, get that G1 Transformers Constructicon look!
This would be a perfect use case for Rainbow Filament!
Awesome!!
There's nothing quite like checking your printers in the morning and finding everything went well.
Awesome!
Fascinating.
I thought is was a joke when you "modeled" the guitar neck only to realize that its really that easy and there is a plugin for it WOW!
My mind was blown once I figured that out!
What an interesting tone wood
I’m jus amazed how it’s working on the wall😂
This was so cool to watch, made me want a damn belt-printer too!
I hope there's a belt printer that can do ABS/ASA soon in the future
Thanks! I hope I can get this printer to print materials like that!
My hero!
DUUUUDEEEE. that jumpscare 0:18 jeezz
nice build. lack of any tuning stability was expected :)
also I've never seen belt printer before. cool
Amazing bro .😎👍🤙
Purple fluorescent semi-transparent like the neck to make a classic Joker themed guitar. (Maybe also do a pick guard and/or knobs in yellow)
I was talking about this color combination with my brother and it reminded me of something. Until he mentioned the Joker, that was it!
This is so cool build! At the moment you said “I want that it can be noticeable from distance “ you already should be considering LED or other type of lighting in it.
That'd look dope on stage too!
@@properprinting do you play on stage? We must see that!
@@Trotils No, I played on some jam sessions, but I'm more of a studio player. I certainly want to make music again, hopefully this sparks it up a bit!
Awesome job, Jon!
You have to wonder about creep. It would be interesting to see what would happen with CF filament.
Thanks! Me too! I think that creep is going to be an issue and I think I'll design one with a longer truss rod to mitigate that. I don't like the feel of CF filament, especially for a neck this becomes itchy ;)
Great Video as always! Had a little heart attack at the intro skit 😂
super cool
I have 3D printed a ukulele neck before, using pla you will get plastic creep while your neck is under tension. Overtime with the strings tightened your neck will start to warp significantly. I would recommend using a different plastic.
PLA definitely is not the best material. Beyond creep, imagine placing this in a car on a hot summer day xD This was just the easiest way to see if it actually works in the first place ;)
Lekker bezig ga zo door
I would love to see how the plastic does overtime with the Constant tension
Nice! Like to see it with some lighting in it. Watching it flex made me think of using a wide strip of spring steel and print tpu around it. Feeding the steel in as it prints. Like how you would drop a magnet in a cavity of a print.
Carbon fibre rods is what most actual guitar manufacturers use to stiffen necks.
Or just make it out of wood. Wood is a renewable resource, doesn't really pollute the environment and takes less time.
I'm a 3D printer, metal fabricator and woodworker. Some of the things people want to make with 3D printers are completely impractical. It's still fun to do though if you don't mind wasting time and plastic.
I have three 3D printers and I'm currently saving up for a CNC machine that will also run my plasma torch.
Thats just a next level Aristides guitar
i have this dream of making guitars out of recycled plastic and this vid is like a glimpse into that future
you are coool
❤🐎❤
also, really bold of you to try the neck with 11s
So... damn... AWESOME!!!
Thanks Pooch! Your wall-mount kit is damn awesome too!!
To get the cr30 to print straight, adjust the belt tensioners, so the belt doesn't move ever so slight side to side.
Thanks for the suggestion! It bent into the vertical direction so I think I have to adjust the height of the platform
I think PLA with the u channel carbon fiber reinforcement rod or two rods with a dual action truss rod would be enough stiffness. Definitely suggest making the neck a fret board separately. You can as someone else said use inserts and screws to connect the parts, the acetone or epoxy as well.
There are ways to do stainless steel fretboard with frets, if you want to go mental.
I’d print the neck bowing away from the fingerboard, that way when the strings are brought up to tension they will bend the neck straight. You wouldn’t need to put so much stress on the truss rod that way.