It's interesting how Renault despite being a relatively smaller car maker, is making the most compelling European EV. They seem to be hitting design, equipment and price right. May not be as cheap as Chinese but seem much more compelling than VW, Stellantis, hell even MB and BMW.
We had three Renault scenic’s over the past 20 years, they were our favourite cars. We loved the double sunroof of the original scenic, and all of the little cubby holes under seats behind chairs, wherever they could put them. This is not a bad car at all although I imagine the price in Ireland is going to be north of €50,000.
I really love the design, reminds me of the 3008 Was sitting indide during the Munich Motor Show last Sept, the rear legroom was jaw-dropping Great review!
From the Zoe Ev, 10yrs later, this Beast. After the Zoe it was just Hybrids & surely this is Alien tech from Area 51. Thats what it feels like. Amazing car.
Thank you for the review which had several details I did not get on other sites. I do not want a Scenic but what interests me is how Renault have used the Renault/Nissan underlying platform. Given the pricing for this car in continental Europe, their platform looks pretty competitive. For instance quite a bit more competitive than Peugeot on their Stellantis platform. The VW/Ford platform has wonderful engineering but lost its way when VW decided to do their own software which even now is still not very good. The one which looks a winner to me is Geely with their various mostly European sub brands. My hope for Stellantis is that Alfa Romeo are allowed to do something really good. So this car shows just how distinctive you can make something built on a really good EV common platform. Let’s have more.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I've seen, they're much more on the trend of luxurious executive vans and minibuses like Mercedes' Vito, Sprinter, and let's be honest VW's ID Buzz that would ferry passengers between the hotel and airport, a or rowdy boozy brunch tv cast of celebrity housewives to an elite resort - rather than the family friendly 5 and 7 seater MPVs Think we had this conversation before where Citroën and Peugeot did have their Berlingo and Partner Spacetourer EV vans but they're not exactly the same category as the MPVs that would remind us of the more car like Citroën C4 Picasso, Renault Scenic or Ford Galaxy.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I'm afraid that the market here in Europe is repeating the same mistakes that led to the US' 2008 auto crash where purchasing power, confidence and demand for big thirsty, profitable SUVs and +mid size cars eventually collapsed. That's very much something the auto industry cannot control outside itself but they do contribute to economies that are continually showing ill signs and at least prepare for modest offerings.
I had an original model Scenic back in the day, great family car, loved the seat configurations and space. Nowadays they are all SUV’s including this one. I will sat though this looks the best of the bunch out there and might be interested as a company when my lease ends next year.
Great review Derek. This does tic alot of boxes for a compact family suv but there is alot of competition in the segment so price will a big factor when it comes to sales.
Think Renault have verry big succes with their ev's, the scenic is a fine car with a elegant design and lot off space for families with children. I love the new type off dashboard with Google on board. My wife and I don't need so much place anymore so we're waiting for the Renault 5,....... In yellow the 75 years Young lady said 😊
Derek, looks like a great package from Renault. Price will be key to its success. Great to see cars with a range close to 600km. Does it have V2L capability?
Lots of competion Price wise it's in the tesla model 3 model Y range there's the new mini version of the kia EV9 called EV5 due late 2024 volvo EX30 BYD seal Such a great time to be in the market for a new EV
This is very much the same segment as Niro EV. EV5 is currently only China but EV3 is on the way end of year. czcams.com/video/YitwgNF2XGY/video.htmlsi=vpJ8YpZrt3kWH6IJ
Another review I saw they had 3.3mi/kWh efficiency so came out at 287mi range real world based on their driving at the same event. That storage in the rear though is very deep and not easy to get heavy things out is lifting it up and out.
Yea, the Electfying review! I think we both need to get it back to UK and Ireland respectively and test it on our road and in our climates. There is a boot liner and false floor you can get. I'll stick it up on my socials soon
Thanks Derek for the great review 28 degrees you have do have the life UK pricing comes in late thirties early forties depending on spec and battery size so i suppose early forties starting off here in Ireland maybe would bring it to kia e-niro range maybe. Well done anyways
Looks like a great package. First SUV that I'd actually consider (but would prefer an estate). However the Megane launched wayyy too high in price here in Ireland and, though it's a nice car, was at a premium for what it was. It's price has dropped with competition and also to make room for this Scenic in the line-up but if it's €40k in France then we're probably looking €50k+ in Irish market. I'm sure some will still go for it but, in contrast to ID.4/TM3 pricing, it'll hardly be a value proposition. Pity but, as I say, great overall package!
This is something I'd be really interested in but as always we generally get priced out of it in Ireland. Such a shame. I expect this will probably come in around the 55k mark which is a serious stretch for most families, including myself. Time will tell I suppose. Nice review 👌
@@NevoEVReviewIreland yeah I'd hope so too. 45k wouldn't be the worst. I've seen some new Megane e techs touching the 50k mark so I'd be concerned this will be more given its extra size and appeal to families.
I really do like it. the front reminds me a bit of honey comb. the back harmrest is really good. I really like this scenic but I can feel the price is going to be high when on the market but finger crossed it's not too high in Ireland. just wonder why they didn't continue with the alpine blue floor in the front and only in the back?
I test drove an Iconic. I liked your Alpine interior. The Iconics you looked at it are £47k with metallic paint but the entry level Techno in the red is £37 and a half. However without the fancy panoramic roof I think the very dark grey interior, its going to be rather gloomy as the Megane was. Happily, the new ones have a light grey headlining, which makes a big difference. The front is a bit marmite, the side looks like any other suv. The concave rear with those sticking out bits looks a bit odd. Acres of room in the back but those arm rest tablet holders didnt look very durable. Very quiet and smooth. Although the controls are meant to be the same as the Megane, I found the driver's screen too busy. My test drive was in the misty growing dusk and I dont believe the steering wheel controls were illuminated. Also efficiency wasnt very good at 2.8. I wouldn't mind a Techno but Renault's finance deals are terrible at present. I'd like to see a Techno when it arrives in June, though
I assume it’s bigger than the Megane but looks similar. The megane is better looking though. I like the interior a lot. Very good but will probably be priced fairly high
@@NevoEVReviewIreland How is the seating position compared to Megane? Is it similar, or more like a 'chair'? Do you feel like you sit much higher than Megane? Cracking review!
What i dont unerstand is why since makers are bringing out new designs of electric cars they are so futuristic lookig compaired with the previous ice ones....I love them apert from the looks of Teslas....with no grilles..even if there fake..they look too plain imo.
A bit of recency bias maybe? Don’t see much that improves on my Ioniq 5, which also has a bigger boot and faster charging. The 2025 Ioniq 5 refresh looks to address all of its comprises too. If Hyundai stop kidding themselves with current pricing it should be top or top three in the segment.
Nissan Ariya carries more of scenic characters and ethos than this one. This just looks like another generic SUV. Scenic MK2 and MK4 were the best in designs in scenic generations. Scenic is all about simplicity, softer lines with cozy family oriented design inside out, large views all around especially sides and front, light (beige or off white) airy interior. Non openable glass roof without real fabric shade would be a pain in summer. They should really bring back the real Scenic, not another SUV clone from their current line up. If people want suv there are a bunch out there not to mention even their current line up. I don't mind high tech but this is not Scenic design.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland low -midd class which are 80+% in Ireland would enjoy too in Fabia, Polo, Corsa and older cars and i doubt they will spend 50000+ euro on french EV junk which will be worthless in severall years like any EV generally
It's a bloody cracking car inside and out
Have to agree Mr Mawson
It's interesting how Renault despite being a relatively smaller car maker, is making the most compelling European EV. They seem to be hitting design, equipment and price right. May not be as cheap as Chinese but seem much more compelling than VW, Stellantis, hell even MB and BMW.
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. One of the best New SUVs 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work from Renault. The price tag as always will be telling.
Great video and drone work 👍🏼
Thanks 👍
We had three Renault scenic’s over the past 20 years, they were our favourite cars. We loved the double sunroof of the original scenic, and all of the little cubby holes under seats behind chairs, wherever they could put them. This is not a bad car at all although I imagine the price in Ireland is going to be north of €50,000.
The original Scenic was very good alright. I hope this is starting at mid 40k
GBP 37k in the UK
I really love the design, reminds me of the 3008
Was sitting indide during the Munich Motor Show last Sept, the rear legroom was jaw-dropping
Great review!
Thanks and I agree. 3008 is going to have some serious French competition
From the Zoe Ev, 10yrs later, this Beast. After the Zoe it was just Hybrids & surely this is Alien tech from Area 51. Thats what it feels like. Amazing car.
It's currently at the top of the list for when we change our EV next year
Nice choice!
Thank you for the review which had several details I did not get on other sites.
I do not want a Scenic but what interests me is how Renault have used the Renault/Nissan underlying platform. Given the pricing for this car in continental Europe, their platform looks pretty competitive. For instance quite a bit more competitive than Peugeot on their Stellantis platform. The VW/Ford platform has wonderful engineering but lost its way when VW decided to do their own software which even now is still not very good. The one which looks a winner to me is Geely with their various mostly European sub brands. My hope for Stellantis is that Alfa Romeo are allowed to do something really good.
So this car shows just how distinctive you can make something built on a really good EV common platform. Let’s have more.
Thanks for the comment Paul and glad you enjoyed it. It will all come down to price
VW software in its newest form is now one of the best (ID7). Don't get stuck in the past. Development is happening quickly.
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Thank you.
We may have to agree to disagree.
It's sad that there's little to none MPV EVs. The Renault Scenic was once a trend setter
I can see MPVs coming back. They are already in China!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I've seen, they're much more on the trend of luxurious executive vans and minibuses like Mercedes' Vito, Sprinter, and let's be honest VW's ID Buzz that would ferry passengers between the hotel and airport, a or rowdy boozy brunch tv cast of celebrity housewives to an elite resort - rather than the family friendly 5 and 7 seater MPVs
Think we had this conversation before where Citroën and Peugeot did have their Berlingo and Partner Spacetourer EV vans but they're not exactly the same category as the MPVs that would remind us of the more car like Citroën C4 Picasso, Renault Scenic or Ford Galaxy.
Hoping some manufacturer will take the plunge but the market is addicted to SUVs
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I'm afraid that the market here in Europe is repeating the same mistakes that led to the US' 2008 auto crash where purchasing power, confidence and demand for big thirsty, profitable SUVs and +mid size cars eventually collapsed. That's very much something the auto industry cannot control outside itself but they do contribute to economies that are continually showing ill signs and at least prepare for modest offerings.
I had an original model Scenic back in the day, great family car, loved the seat configurations and space. Nowadays they are all SUV’s including this one. I will sat though this looks the best of the bunch out there and might be interested as a company when my lease ends next year.
Thank you Derek!
My pleasure!
Great review Derek. This does tic alot of boxes for a compact family suv but there is alot of competition in the segment so price will a big factor when it comes to sales.
All down to price for sure Allan! I think they have learned a lesson from Mégane (hopefully)
Nothing as clever as this Scenic do.
Think Renault have verry big succes with their ev's, the scenic is a fine car with a elegant design and lot off space for families with children. I love the new type off dashboard with Google on board. My wife and I don't need so much place anymore so we're waiting for the Renault 5,....... In yellow the 75 years Young lady said 😊
Ha, nice choice and colour option!
Derek, looks like a great package from Renault. Price will be key to its success. Great to see cars with a range close to 600km. Does it have V2L capability?
A great offering for sure. Unfortunately no V2L
The new Renault design language is superb.
Lots of competion Price wise it's in the tesla model 3 model Y range there's the new mini version of the kia EV9 called EV5 due late 2024 volvo EX30 BYD seal
Such a great time to be in the market for a new EV
This is very much the same segment as Niro EV. EV5 is currently only China but EV3 is on the way end of year. czcams.com/video/YitwgNF2XGY/video.htmlsi=vpJ8YpZrt3kWH6IJ
I like it. Its very classy and clever. Renault need to price this around €40,000 to €48,000 to be competitive in the segment.
Fingers crossed!
Another review I saw they had 3.3mi/kWh efficiency so came out at 287mi range real world based on their driving at the same event. That storage in the rear though is very deep and not easy to get heavy things out is lifting it up and out.
Yea, the Electfying review! I think we both need to get it back to UK and Ireland respectively and test it on our road and in our climates. There is a boot liner and false floor you can get. I'll stick it up on my socials soon
Love the car ticks all the right boxes for me. Also where about are you in Málaga it looks beautiful 🤔
Pretty car. Lighter than the e3008. Less classy interior? Looks competitively priced if you don’t overdo options. Thanks for the review.
Glad you enjoyed it
I do like it, but that screen layout, where the speed number is partially overlapped by the diagonal line, might be a problem for my OCD 😂
Ha ha, I think you can change it to be a little clearer!
Thanks Derek for the great review 28 degrees you have do have the life
UK pricing comes in late thirties early forties depending on spec and battery size so i suppose early forties starting off here in Ireland maybe would bring it to kia e-niro range maybe.
Well done anyways
Head to head with Niro EV and KONA for sure!
Lovely car.
I agree
Great review. How effective was the opaque setting on the sunroof? Did it feel noticeable if can remember? 😉
Very much blocking out the sun!
Looks like a great package. First SUV that I'd actually consider (but would prefer an estate). However the Megane launched wayyy too high in price here in Ireland and, though it's a nice car, was at a premium for what it was. It's price has dropped with competition and also to make room for this Scenic in the line-up but if it's €40k in France then we're probably looking €50k+ in Irish market. I'm sure some will still go for it but, in contrast to ID.4/TM3 pricing, it'll hardly be a value proposition. Pity but, as I say, great overall package!
Beautiful car, just one thing: why a vertical screen?
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This is something I'd be really interested in but as always we generally get priced out of it in Ireland. Such a shame. I expect this will probably come in around the 55k mark which is a serious stretch for most families, including myself. Time will tell I suppose. Nice review 👌
I'd be hoping sub 50k like the Niro. Even nearer 45k
@@NevoEVReviewIreland yeah I'd hope so too. 45k wouldn't be the worst. I've seen some new Megane e techs touching the 50k mark so I'd be concerned this will be more given its extra size and appeal to families.
They need to come in strong if they want to get market share. Too competitive in this space
The 60kwh battery version is £37k in the UK. The larger battery starts at £41k
Competitive!
I really do like it. the front reminds me a bit of honey comb. the back harmrest is really good. I really like this scenic but I can feel the price is going to be high when on the market but finger crossed it's not too high in Ireland. just wonder why they didn't continue with the alpine blue floor in the front and only in the back?
Honeycomb is right! Fingers crossed on the price is right. The carpet is a funny one, need to double check tomorrow
Nice review. Does it have wireless Apple Carplay?
Yes it does!
I think it looks the part. Really like that colour. Wonder what the non alpine version looks like that most will buy.
Any plans to do a real range test on Irish roads?
Coming in a few weeks
I test drove an Iconic. I liked your Alpine interior. The Iconics you looked at it are £47k with metallic paint but the entry level Techno in the red is £37 and a half. However without the fancy panoramic roof I think the very dark grey interior, its going to be rather gloomy as the Megane was. Happily, the new ones have a light grey headlining, which makes a big difference. The front is a bit marmite, the side looks like any other suv. The concave rear with those sticking out bits looks a bit odd. Acres of room in the back but those arm rest tablet holders didnt look very durable. Very quiet and smooth. Although the controls are meant to be the same as the Megane, I found the driver's screen too busy. My test drive was in the misty growing dusk and I dont believe the steering wheel controls were illuminated. Also efficiency wasnt very good at 2.8. I wouldn't mind a Techno but Renault's finance deals are terrible at present. I'd like to see a Techno when it arrives in June, though
Way too many stalks🙂🙂 Great Review. Wireless android auto? what's the cruise control like? Thanks.
There are a lot of stalks alright. I believe so wireless android auto. Cruise control was good, will give it a proper drive back in Ireland.
It looks very nice. I assume won't be sold in the US.
I don't think so unfortunately
So if its priced right will you buy one Derek?
It's definitely up there! I did like the Torres EVX last week so definitely suffer from recency bias
Handsome thing
And the car
🤣🤣
Will the false floor make a flat surface with the seats down?
This is a deal breaker imo.
Will check when I get it in Ireland
I assume it’s bigger than the Megane but looks similar. The megane is better looking though. I like the interior a lot. Very good but will probably be priced fairly high
Yes bigger! 4.47 m long, 1.86 m wide and 1.57 m. A wheelbase 2.78 which I think is 10 cm longer
@@NevoEVReviewIreland ok so it’s a good bit bigger so hard to tell looking at it in the video. Good review Derek 👍
@@NevoEVReviewIreland How is the seating position compared to Megane? Is it similar, or more like a 'chair'? Do you feel like you sit much higher than Megane? Cracking review!
Do you really think we will see it this year? Some dealers are saying it’s a year away
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😂😂 no idea what this comment is about
@@NevoEVReviewIreland ah go on, I'm sure Ryan Tubridy knows 🤫
Oh now I get it! 🤣
Very confusing some say Alpine has sunroof and some say no! Who is telling the truth
Renault reacting to China. Its all to our benefit. Price and real life range will be interesting.
Des
2 things that matter most
What type of battery is the two variants? LFP or Ternery?
lithium-ion chemistry like many other new EVs, but Renault and LG have opted for nickel manganese cobalt oxide
What i dont unerstand is why since makers are bringing out new designs of electric cars they are so futuristic lookig compaired with the previous ice ones....I love them apert from the looks of Teslas....with no grilles..even if there fake..they look too plain imo.
Good job it's narrower than the Tesla but that boot lip seems pointlessly high
There is an insert liner you can get
i hope they would rather engineer a V2L feature in and drop the Jarre sounds
Not sure it will happen on both fronts 😔
A bit of recency bias maybe? Don’t see much that improves on my Ioniq 5, which also has a bigger boot and faster charging.
The 2025 Ioniq 5 refresh looks to address all of its comprises too. If Hyundai stop kidding themselves with current pricing it should be top or top three in the segment.
100% recency bias! I think the IONIQ 5 is a segment bigger car. This is more KONA sized
Does it not have v2l like the renault 5 Derek?
Unfortunately not, a slightly different platform to Renault 5. This is the same platform as Mégane
Not convinced the roof will still work the moment it goes out of warranty
Oh, good point!
Nissan Ariya carries more of scenic characters and ethos than this one. This just looks like another generic SUV. Scenic MK2 and MK4 were the best in designs in scenic generations. Scenic is all about simplicity, softer lines with cozy family oriented design inside out, large views all around especially sides and front, light (beige or off white) airy interior. Non openable glass roof without real fabric shade would be a pain in summer. They should really bring back the real Scenic, not another SUV clone from their current line up. If people want suv there are a bunch out there not to mention even their current line up. I don't mind high tech but this is not Scenic design.
Thanks for the comment. I suppose they've done their market research and came back with this unfortunately
Renault har gjort en genistrek
Totally agree
Don't like the rearview mirror
The camera? The opening is very small to see through normally
Stop calling this thing an "SUV" - because fortunately, it isn`t.
It’s an SUV!
Expect it to be massively overpriced when it's finally announced. ROI - Rip Off Ireland.
i can buy apartment in spain forprice of this french ev shit and this ev shit will worth in 5 years less then some cheap škoda fabia ice
Thanks for the comnent. Thanks no-one is forcing you to buy this! Enjoy the apartment in Spain and driving the Fabia around
@@NevoEVReviewIreland low -midd class which are 80+% in Ireland would enjoy too in Fabia, Polo, Corsa and older cars and i doubt they will spend 50000+ euro on french EV junk which will be worthless in severall years like any EV generally