2018 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV Review and Comparison
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2018
- Hyundai's mission is to have a slew of new EV, HEV and PHEV vehicles over the next few years to improve their standing when it comes to fuel efficiency and environmental friendliness. The first big push from the company is the Ioniq which is a three-pronged attack with a dedicated electric version, a standard hybrid and the all-new plug-in hybrid we drove for a week. The PHEV trades a little bit of efficiency for a 29 mile electric only range. Like the Toyota Prius Prime, the Ioniq Plug In was not intended to be an "EV with a backup plan" but instead to help you shift some of your fuel consumption from gasoline to electricity while maintaining a laser-sharp focus on overall efficiency. The result is a vehicle that has a few trade-offs but is unquestionably efficient.
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I bought a used 2019 Ioniq PHEV and I absolutely love this car. Everything about it, size, driving feel, the hatchback and flat folding seats, and the insane total range. I could go 1200 miles on a single tank of gas averaging around 110mpge!! It’s awesome!
The only thing I wish this car had was a longer EV range, maybe around 40 miles, and doesn’t use the gas engine to heat.
I just traded in my 2006 Chevy Trailblazer EXT 4x4 V8 in for the Ioniq PHEV...my truck was 14 years old, got 12 mpg and I don’t haul people in it anymore. Just driving in town was costing me $70 a week. Now for the price it cost to fill my tank, I pay the same in a monthly payment, got the 2019 version and got a ton of money off the list price. I even got the ultimate package which includes most of the amenities my Trailblazer had, minus the size and the fuel economy, especially when I use electric mode. I don’t mind using hybrid mode in the winter because I don’t drive very far and my seats will heat quicker than the engine in hybrid mode so electric still wins. I can go the local college a mile away and charge my car for free. WIN WIN for me!!
Thanks for including details that everyone else misses, like how the engine has to run to heat the cabin. Great competitive analysis as well, based more on facts than opinion. Excellent review!
Every time I watch an AoA video, I get convinced to get one of his top 2 picks. Fortunately (or unfortunately), my bank account tells me otherwise. And Alex has a way of making you feel not-to-bad about the other choices.
Thank you very much for always mentioning the color of the rear turn signal, because to me, that is an important consideration among other things.
After watching so many of your videos on hybrids, I settled on a used version of this one and I’m so glad I did. It’s amazing. Thank you for the best car reviews on CZcams!
update?
@@dnegel9546 I got a fully loaded used version. It had 52,000 miles. It’s been 2 years and it’s around 85,000 miles now. Love it.
And it’s incredible for gas mileage. I often just drive on the 29 miles of electric and if I need to go over, it’s 55 miles per gallon of gas. I’m totally sold on Hyundai now and my next car will definitely be the fully electric Ioniq 6.
@@TheRyanBarker yeah i just seen a blue model for 17k and 55k miles. and got me thinking about getting it.
the ionic6 N will be amazing. but even the regular 6 looks great. wish my house was set up for EVs or i would just get an ev.
What a great comprehensive review! You got a new subscriber.
Thank you for that price comparison. It helps so much seeing those next to each other.
2:39. I’m a simple man. I see a chart comparison across a range of cars and I click like.
Thanks for the excellent, thorough in-depth review. Appreciate the point-by-point comparisons with Volt and Prius Prime.
Thanks for this best review, even though its 2021 now, i found this really helpful and expertly presented.
Alex you are great … This is the best car video I have ever seen ...Very informative … Thank You for all the information ….
The Ioniq seems like a pretty enticing buy, especially when considering the federal tax credit that's available. All in all, when I reviewed the HEV version of the Ioniq I was pleasantly surprised by the nice looking interior, sleek exterior design, spacious cabin (and cargo area), and most of all the fuel efficiency. Hyundai has definitely been on a role lately producing some pretty solid vehicles with ultra competative pricing. As always, great review, Alex!
Great comparison video. Very helpful!
Very practical car yet also very fun to drive. Hyundai did a good job
as always,superb review.i want Ioniq PHEV now
Very good review! Thanks for very detailed review on transmission and comparison.
Wonderful job with your vids anyway Alex.
Excellent and very informative video. I'm getting 60.9 mpg combined on my 2019 Ioniq hybrid blue. Excellent for Uber use.
Excellent review, Alex. On cargo space, you list the same Cu ft as the electric version (4 bags) but the same rolling bag count as the hybrid model with larger trunk. Does this model have a better shape to hold more bags despite of the same volume? Thanks!!
I was torn on plugin vs normal hybrid but in SoCal I drive on the highway a lot. I ended up getting the normal hybrid SEL for highway MPG. I get the advertised 55 mpg without anyone but myself. I had probably 500lbs of cargo and just went from LA to Phoenix and got 50 mpg. I get 60 to 62 mpg because of typical LA traffic and all that low speed crawling, 650 to 620 miles from 11 gallons of gas has been normal over last 5000 miles. However, the plugin here in LA you can get better parking spots with free charging at malls or certain shopping centers, or waived from certain parking fees.
I have Ioniq Ultimate HEV (3K miles old) but getting 50 at max, is economy increasing over miles?
A little, I am even logging miles on my phone. The ECU seems off a bit, the car told me 58mpg I got 55 that tank using what gas pump said vs mileage. It could even be just weight difference of your car with 17s (225mm wide) vs my 15s (195mm wide) , sunroof etc. I never got below 51 mpg even driving in sport mode for shits and giggles. I have already put nearly 7000 miles on car since January.
And that's why I love CZcams comments section. Actual owners experience. I know I add nothing to this discussion but I want to thank all of you for your contributions. 👍🏾👍🏾
Most new cars improve on fuel efficiency after breaking inn mileage. As you rack up the mileage, mpg should increase.
aivan0v if I remember things correctly, your trim is handicapped by more weight from added luxuries and wider/heavier tires
So that's the way to go eh? Hybrid? I have a 180 miles commute round trip.
Very good review... Kudos
I don't know how I have missed Alex for so long. He is the North American equivalent of Autofugel in Germany. Good job Alex.
@alexonautos Your reviews are always among my favorites. Your preciseness and detailed specs are a joy to behold. I’ve seen both your reviews of the Honda Clarity Plug-In and this one, the plain hybrid (the Ioniq plug-in isn’t for sale in CT yet). I’ve also test driven both, and I continue to be on the edge. I know, one’s plain hybrid, another one’s plug-in, so not apples to apples. However, I’m still going to ask-which of the two would you buy?
@alexonautos now that the honda insight is out, which car do you recommend? the ioniq or insight?
Great review my wife has one, and I think we made the right decision. Especially after your review Thanks.
This was my exact thought when looking to the Ioniq, buy the phev and put the 17’s from the hybrid on it.
is niro phev using exactly the same power train and mechanism？
What's the Doug score on it?
What's the recuperation rate when in hybrid mode? Is it possible to re-charge the battery entirely ...say on the hwy to be able to later use it for EV only commute. Essentially...is it possible to take advantage of the bigger than hybrid only battery without pluging it in?
Pretty awesome that it comes with a lifetime battery warranty against failure, for the original owner.
18:53
You got "Lake keeping" right but missed "Autonomous barking".
Oh poop!
Alex on Autos Oh Shit
Don't need no stinkin' high-tech for "autonomous barking". My dog provides that service just fine. :)
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Would it be right to think that the Ioniq's engine is more independent from the electrics of the Prius and so gets its heating straight from the engine like any other conventional car and maybe still runs an alternator to charge its 12 volt battery, Also i heard that if the hybrid battery on the Prius was depleted stuck on the road side you would not be able start the engine. Do you think considering what im trying to imply here problems like that may not be the case with the IONIQ ?
Wow now that has given me lots to think about,l to like the Nero ,but is that the correct buy. Great review.
18:54 - 20:14 what is "lake keeping" feature?
so the noise level in DB is classified ?
I got this car over a year ago and very happy with it. Great financial decision.
Averaging 100-150 MPG.
Charging overnight costs less than $1.00. Spending about $35/month on gasoline.
VIP parking (sometimes even with free charging)
Carpool sticker
Lifetime battery warranty
~$5000 in state and local rebates (aside from the federal credit applied to the purchase price by the dealer)
etc...
I upgraded from 2010 Prius IV (yes, with the solar panel roof) and checked out the Prius Prime and was very disappointed.
Lower EV range
$200 Higher monthly payment
No middle seat in the back
No android auto
No more solar panel roof
And overall Toyota's negative attitude towards the EV revolution.
How miles in total now and how many on Battery only
my next car!! thanks
Would you get this or a 2017 Ford C-Max Energi Titanium?
So I went in to my Hyundai Dealer to purchase a Ioniq Plug in. My dealer said no plugins are available in Florida. So I had to purchase a 2019 Hybrid. Bout time someone Made a Truly Hybrid. I was surprised that the gas motor doesn’t com on until after @ 35 miles We Love it. So far we have gotten 55 MPG.
You could have bought the Ioniq Plugin from another state & registered it in Florida..... I do stuff like that all the time
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These reviews are legit
Hi @alex Which of these cars gives more miles per tank? (Honda Insight, Hyundai Ioniq plug in hybrid). Thanks
Look up the EPA rating (fuel economy.gov) and multiply by the size of the tank (google). Easy
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It may be worth it to mention the fold down rear seats, and also compare storage space with seats folded down with the competition.
Why is the PHEV 5mpg worse than the pure hybrid? I get that the battery is heavier but that’s a massive difference!
very good. sold.
Picked up my Plugin Ioniq 2019 (Limited) last Monday. Had to go to Danbury Connecticut to get one as NJ and NY dealers were unable to get any. So far so good, but the heater forcing the gas engine on is a downer. Other than that, I like the performance of the vehicle and the way it handles. Occasionally, there is the slightest of hesitation when accelerating from a standstill (the manual states there is two second 'hill hold' feature - perhaps that is what I am feeling).
The car feels tighter than our 2013 Prius hybrid and is a better value. I wear hearing aids and the noise level is noticeably quieter than our Prius. For about the same price as what I paid in 2013 for the Prius, the Ioniq comes with electric driver seat controls, seat heaters, leather interior seats, LED and Halogen exterior lights, safety features like lane assist and adaptive cruise control, Blue Link service for 3 years, and of course, the Plugin feature. I chose the Limited model because I prefer to use the apps on my Android phone for navigation and did not want a sun roof. So far the Google apps seem to integrate perfectly on the Ioniq's screen using Android Auto. The touch screen responds to map scaling and many commands using Android assistant are available to select routes and other options. It also can use Apple Play, but not being an i-Phone user, I am not sure how well it integrates with that phone.
Perfect! How many miles in total and how many on Battery
Can we get some of the new Subarus like the Impreza, Legacy, and Crosstrek? Love your videos Alex!
I'm getting pretty confused with all the PHEV HEV vs EV cars. Perhaps it'll be interesting for you, Alex, to create a video just on comparing these tech and how much money do we actually save by going with them as I know charging them takes electricity, and the battery doesn't last forever.
Great review. Spot on with the pros/cons of the Ioniq. I have been driving an Ionig hev for two weeks, your review and my seat time make me think your reviews the most accurate I have seen yet. Great job!
Great review. Bummed to hear the PHEV does not handle as well as the regular hybrid. One thing Alex did not mention (or I missed it) was whether the PHEV has the same multi-link independent rear suspension as the regular hybrid. I am wondering how much of the reduced handling can be remedied with more performance-oriented tires and 17 wheels, versus the added weight of the batteries or a less advanced suspension, which cannot be changed. How far would swapping out the OEMs for some 17" performance tires really get you? Also curious if the PHEV is compatible with the same wide 225/45 r17 tires as on the regular Ionic Limited.
It does not have the multi-link suspension which is why handling is not as good. It's due to the larger battery pack. The same thing is true with the Prius Prime.
Actually, the Ioniq plug-in does have a multi-link rear suspension. Only the full EV gets a torsion beam. And the Prius Prime still has a double wishbone rear suspension, same as the regular Prius.
Alex great in depth review! How does this Ioniq compare to a Ford Fusion Energi and the new Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV? Why does no one talk about the Fords? Are they that bad? They have so many nice tech features!
what about the Kia Optima phev?
Isn't the Hyundai Ioniq's fuel economy 119 MPGe combined electric + gas though?
People have a hard time believing me when I talk about 125 MPG, but it's very true and easily achievable in one of these. I Bought one in May. My electric bill changed negibly, I still think that my coffee maker takes more juice than it does to charge my car.
How miles in total now and how many on Battery only
Am I the only one that notices the music playing on the audio system is sometimes related to the car itself?
Scott oh yeah. He trolls us with them. Makes me laugh.
Such a clever fellow, that Alex is.
Very impressed that this doesn't have an awful CVT like all its competition
I’m really struggling on wether I should buy an Ioniq HEV or PHEV. I avg 20 Miles a day driving. I am a very conservative driver ( I get 30 mpg on my 2.4L Kia Optima). What would be your recommendation?
I'd PHEV. There's very little downside once you factor in the tax credit.
Prius Prime for me still but great review! I look forward to the Insight review! Now that can make me reconsider IF they make a plug-in version of it
They do its called the Clarity PHEV
Yeah Honda really did invest in their Clarity line for that. The Insight is pretty much replacing their Civic Hybrid. Would be insane if there was EV insight in the future. Mmmm.
Over $10,500 more for a clarity!
No thanks!
Prius hybrid vs Prime, less then $4000
Ioniq hybrid vs plug in is almost only a $2500 difference.
Clarity is not just a plug in Insight,
Plus, I like that the Insight isn't as long & I don't like the suede material on the Clarity.
New Insight == Civic Hybrid..... Honda just changed the name
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Waiting for the base clarity go on the use market
this car vs prius prime which one is better
I would be looking for better tires.
To Bad Alex never reviewed the IS300h. I just love that Car!
just look at a prius with more luxury lol
Will you be reviewing the new Honda Accord Hybrids or Insight anytime soon? Thanks!
Insight next week, Accord soon!
Thank you, your reviews are the best! 👍
strange that the accord hybrid has been out for 3 months now and there are 0 official reviews. That doesn't look like a good sign.
KJ. Why? Hondas make shit hybrids
Have to weigh all the plus and minus comparisons...
For me, I had to have the much bigger battery (50 mile) of the Volt,
even though it cost more, smaller trunk and back seat head room...
I can go to rural towns to shop etc., come home, yet gasoline engine never ran!!
Pure electric. Then recharge car battery on home solar-electric system... I luv it.
One strange thing I noticed in the Ioniq manual is that the PHEV has a conventional lead-acid car battery concealed in the side of the cargo area, which is used to start the engine, but the plain Hybrid has a lithium-polymer starter battery just like the hybrid drive battery. The lead-acid battery may need maintenance, just like any conventional car battery, but the lithium battery doesn't. And the lead-acid battery is heavier than a lithium battery. It's baffling why the engineers had to use the lead-acid battery in the PHEV. The lithium starter battery of the Hybrid in normal operation contributes to the hybrid drive power along with the main battery. In the event that the starting battery is discharged too low (less than 10% of capacity), the car disconnects the starter battery from the main battery circuit so it saves the little remaining charge for starting. There's a button on the driver's knee panel that overrides the disconnect for 15 seconds to give you time to re-start the car if the starter battery has been shut off. After restarting like that, you need to run the car on gasoline power for about 30 minutes to let it recharge the starter battery.
Great car i have 1200km range can somone beat that?
Hmm, considering the federal tax credit, the plug-in Ioniq actually seems like a more attractive deal than the regular hybrid.
I think you only get the tax credit if you get the straight-up EV.
plug ins get up to 7500 tax credit too
The plug-in gets up to $4500, not $7500. Still, it makes it a better deal than the regular hybrid, even before state incentives.
The EV tax credit is formulaic (size of battery and such) that's why you see vehicles like this Ioniq getting less of a credit ($4500) than others like the Chevy Volt ($7500) even though both are plug in hybrids.
Hybrid is way lower payments than the Plug-in, even with the government incentives factored in, at least in where I live. A lease of 33 months, PHEV base trim compared to the Hybrid 2nd trim is over $100 more per month Canadian Dollar.
How is the prius prime longer than a regular prius?
prius, prius prime, corolla, insight, niro, ioniq, all have the same wheel base 106.3 inch the diferences are en biger bumpers or nose or tail. but th.e ioniq is wider than the other ones mentioned, from 1 to 2 inch
I've been considering both the Ioniq PHEV and the Prius Prime. Two more additional CONS with the Prime is that there is no sunroof option, and the location of the electrical charge point is on the right rear side of the car. In my case, it's very inconvenient as I park head first into my garage and the only electrical outlets are on the wall in front of the car.
The Ioniq has both a sunroof option and the electrical recharge plug location is on the front left so it's very convenient for me to plug it into the outlet in my garage. BTW, I currently have a 2004 Prius with 230,000 miles on it.
sunroof is comes in and optional pakage, 2900 dollars.
Chevy Volt often gets some good discounts off MSRP. I got mine last year for $6k off MSRP, and have seen similar discounts since then. I can confirm that it's very EV-like. I haven't put any gas in mine for 9 months, driven over 10k miles, and still have 3/4 tank of gas. Despite cargo capacity numbers, it doesn't feel limited to me at all, and hatch is very versatile. However, back seat head and leg room is not good for passengers around 6 foot and above. But, it's fine for children and small adults.
Dan what else did you look at, Ford Fusion Energi, prius prime, Niro? I wish the Volt was just slightly bigger, but the 53 EV sounds amazing. My work commute is 14 miles a day, so I am open to the EV range, but the Volt I would not have to charge daily which really sounds great..... thanks..
Prius Prime and Niro weren't around when I was looking. Ford Fusion Energi was, but I didn't look because it didn't have the EV range. I have to say that the more you drive a PHEV in EV mode, the less you like the switch to ICE mode when it happens. I've gotten to the point that I know I wouldn't consider anything but a pure EV for my next car, even though the charging infrastructure isn't where I want it to be yet. If I were looking now, I'd lean towards a Chevy Bolt or Tesla Model 3. In a few months, I would add the longer range Nissan Leaf to that list.
I'm interested in buying a plug in hybrid. Can someone help me explain how it works? My question is. If the car is fully charged, it supposed to give me 29 miles of range in EV mode right? So after that the gas motor kicks in and works like a hybrid? or does it uses only gas because I already used the 29 miles range. I'm confused
So it technically only has 27 miles of EV unless you turn off all the hvac, then it gives you 29. (I have the 2019 PHEV). If you go up hills or mountains, you’ll get less. And if it’s relatively cold outside it’ll use the gas engine to heat.
There’s a button at 9:19 where you can choose to run it as EV only or HEV. If you run out of EV it’ll automatically turn to hybrid.
I recommend using EV mode on local roads, stop and go traffic, or if your entire round trip is less than 27 miles. Use HEV for long road trips or smooth highways.
This is a good looking car in my opinion. Hyundai should stretch it a little and make a 7 seater MPV with the same powertrain
While I am late to this I’ll still get my 2 cents in.
Wouldn’t it have been more accurate to say that the Ioniq is more efficient then the Volt when the number of miles driven between charges is either less then 36 miles or greater then 144 miles. But if the travel distance is between those numbers then the Volt is more efficient.
The method for calculating this is to take a weighted average of the electric and gasoline efficiency for each vehicle and plot it on a spreadsheet and see when they intersect.
So what are my options if I want a zippy plugin with decent horsepower?
Pretty much the Chevy Volt and maybe the Honda Clarity. But that’s about it.
I test drove the Clarity. I would not describe it as zippy. Definitely the Volt though.
@TTACVideo it looks like there is a 2nd generation which lots of new features and one-pedal driving perhaps 300+ range? www.hyundai.news/eu/model-news/new-2019-hyundai-ioniq-hybrid-and-plug-in-maximise-connectivity/
I would have like it even more had Hyundai include a battery charge button like in the Mitsubishi outlander Phev. It's great feature. If battery is depleted, and the car is running on gas; you might as well make it to use by charging your battery for later use.
Lionnel L - from what I have read elsewhere, the Hyundai (and Kia) Phev charges the battery when in sport mode, apparently at a fairly rapid rate. Why they haven't publicised this is beyond me.
Richard Weaver thanks for looking out. Would you share the link of that relevant reading please? Cheers!
You can also choose to recharge the battery by using regenerative breaking by pressing a button near the steering column vs using the brake pedal.
I am surprised that Hyundai has chosen to use combination taillights/turn signals.
@Alex on Autos I don't understand why the Volt is more inefficient then the Ioniq on EV mode. From what I understand, the Volt runs only end only on electric power (as long as it has enough charge) where as the Ioniq uses the ICE when needed (fast accelerations for example). So the Volt will use no gasoline and so, in my opinion, is more efficient (in pure EV mode)
Efficiency measures energy consumption, not range. The Ioniq PHEV will use less electricity to cover the same distance than a Volt when each one is using electricity only (takes less electricity for the Ioniq PHEV to go 10 miles than the Volt to go 10 miles). The Ioniq PHEV will use less gasoline to cover the same distance than a Volt when it is burning gasoline to generate electricity for its motor (after the battery is depleted). Therefore, the Ioniq is more energy-efficient than the Volt. However, efficiency will not always save money--it depends on many variables. In my case (in non-COVID lockdown mode), I have a 3x200 mile roundtrip commute/week for work. I live in a place where gasoline is 4.90$/gal and electricity costs .09$/kWh. I do not have charging at work. So, under ideal conditions, on the roundtrip, I will get 23 extra miles on electricity with the Volt than with the Ioniq PHEV. However, I will use far less gasoline (which is a lot more expensive than electricity) with the Ioniq than the Volt for the whole commute. Overall, I would save more money with the Ioniq. If the spread of gasoline and electricity costs was very different, it might make more sense for me to have a Volt (but in my situation, I would save several hundred dollars a year on gasoline with an Ioniq). On the other four days, with required driving, I would easily fit my daily driving within the Ioniq's EV range.
Now, if my commute was within 50 miles round trip, the Volt would be a much better option. In that case, I would only need gasoline for long distance recreational trips and would save a lot more money than with an Ioniq PHEV on energy costs. I would be in EV mode 95% of the time in such a commuting pattern. However, I would still be using more electricity per mile than the Ioniq, so while I would be saving money, I would not be more efficient.
Now that we are in the ICE/Hybrid/PHEV/EV universe of many options, it's not as straightforward as it used to be to select the vehicle that best meets one's individual use case needs. If I lived in a warmer climate, I would get an EV. But my long-distance commutes are unneeded in summer, not winter (I teach at two colleges, each about 100 miles from home, in different directions, so I get summers off, not winters). And winters get cold (-20C and lower on a regular, albeit not sustained, basis). Cold EV driving means longer charging times (and who wants to add nearly an hour to a 200 mile round trip in winter?). So a PHEV is a better option for me at this time (affordable EVs where winter is not a factor, time-wise, are not around yet). Which PHEV? My particular case narrows it down to the Ioniq PHEV or the Prius Prime. My best friend (whose commute is always within 50 miles)? A Volt or Clarity would be the best. But I would still get to brag about efficiency.
@@Ovationhabs thank you for your excelent explanation. It is true that all electric/hybrid/plug-in vehicles are not equal. I guess we are not yet used to compare this types of cars like we are used to compare ICE cars.
Alex, I bought Ioniq with Ultimate package (actually you influenced my decision by your review fro 50%) and was actually thinking to change 17'' wheels to those from plugin hybrid =) I heard that inverted trick from you from the end of the video =) Weird if someone wants to match this exchange
Hi there, just wondering if you had changed your wheels to 17". If so did they work? Did you get them with the dealer or aftermarket? Can you please share your experience. I have also got Ioniq PHEV and planning to switch them to 17."
Praveen, nope. I still drive my 17". Getting sth like 50-52 MPG. What trim do you have and where do you live?
I drive plug in hybrid limited trim, Canada
Hey Alex -- I know this doesn't belong here but I'm wondering if you're planning to review the new GMC Terrain? I've been dying to see your take on the push button shifting.
DO THE KONAAAAAA
resale value ? these are great video but when considering cost of ownership initial cost and gas consumption are 2 very important factor, but resale value can have an even bigger impact. When looking at a used chevy volt I was shocked how little of the original $45k they retained (~$10k for '13 with 80k average) vs say Prius which had twice the mileage and start at half the price!
It would be great to get a projected resale % in there...
Low... It's an unknown car.
If they hybrid setup is anything like the Niro PHEV, the Sport mode should charge the battery.
it is
When he's driving, the camera makes me feel like he's going to fall right off of the cliff.
Hyundai should just make the Hybrid wheels an option on the plug-in. While the skinny wheels have better mpg, I would trade a little mpg for a better ride/handling & probably shorter stopping distance.
17:35 - How convenient, a Chevy Volt drives by right when he mentions how the Ioniq compares to the Volt.
lifetime battery warranty says all, I had a prius before and battery fails at 10 year old, did repair of cells but only last 6 months each time. finally I have to dump the prius.
Toyota Prius Prime offers a charge Mode while driving. For info.
How is that? How do you turn it on?
Hold EVHV for couple second and you should see CHARGE mode in red on the screen.@@ralanham76
Does Plug-In Hybrid have same fuel tank size as the Hybrid model?
It's slightly smaller. 11.5 gallons vs 11.9 gallons.
yes 43 liters tank
Our ioniq plug in with 70k miles wont run on electric battery without the engine constantly kicking in. It kicks in in a lower gear and the car falls on it's face until you floor the accelerator. It has been in to the dealer three times but they never get it fixed. They say it's fixed we say no it's not and back and forth we go. Not a good experience.
Oh no a light colored upper dashboard, lots of reflections in the summer 😥
While the Ioniq hybrid (for the regular folk who can't access a charger) and the Ioniq electric (insane efficiency) makes sense - this Plug-in hybrid feels like a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. While I name myself as such for being that kind of person, I can't see this DCT hybrid system doing too well on efficiency when it comes to power usage with a main electric motor propulsion - there's a reason EV don't have gearboxes. Regen braking is going to be hampered & it is not going to be as smooth, which means the Ioniq plug-in is eschewing traditional EV trademarks on the grounds of sharing costs & powertrain with the regular Ioniq hybrid. In that case, I rather pay the few thousand $ difference and go for the Ioniq electric altogether.
The whole Ioniq line was designed from the ground up to be at least be partially electrified. The Plug-in manages to get a respectable 119 MPGe rating, which is right up there with traditional EVs such as the e-Golf and the Bolt, but not as good as the Ioniq EV or Model 3. Compared to other PHEVs, they're also near the top of the pack, only bested by the Prius Prime.
Source: www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/topten.jsp?year=2018&action=AllYears
That isn't to say engineering compromises weren't made due to cost and consistency, but they're not as bad as shoehorning a hybrid drive train into a Sonata. More power to you to get the more efficient all electric version, but that comes with range anxiety for some types of drivers. Regardless of what you choose, it looks like Hyundai is trying to deliver a highly efficient affordable versatile cars in the Ioniq line-up. Unfortunately it looks like it may be difficult to find inventory across the US for the Plug-in and EV versions.
IMO main advantage of the Prius is the standard headlights are good, active safety tech is standard, and it can heat the car in EV mode. Advantage of the Ioniq is it's an actual 5-seater, cargo room, and luxury features. I'm concerned the DCT and running the engine for heating on the Ioniq will mean the Prius wins on reliability pretty significantly.
Ironically, the Prius is the 'value' buy? IMO Hyundai is being greedy with the 'Poor" base trim headlights, but Toyota really needs to get a 5th seat in there next year. They should have learned from Chevy's mistake.
Pretty solid comment there my man.
How about the Honda Clarity
Clarity is best of both worlds but minus the MPG and cargo room. More electric range tho.
prius plug in had a 5th seat, which they removed for the prime.
I can't stand the looks of the Prii, and that includes the interior.
Too much toilet-white plastic, and I'd never buy a car with the instrument panel in the center. Cheap, cheap, cheap!
The Prime has Toyota’s reliability too.
Alex I have to correct you on winter driving in the PHEV. You can drive EV and have engine heat without the engine tied to the wheels. Instead the engine will provide a minimal charge to the battery and heat is generated but the engine will run different than if driving the wheels. About how the coolant gets heated read this article about why it has no resistive heating and doesn't need it. www.memuk.org/transport/automotive/Hyundai-ioniq-hybrid-integrated-ehrs-4936
Not sure why you’re comparing it to the Volt. Kinda like comparing the Gen 1 Leaf against the Bolt.
hkmp5kpdw the Volt is absolutely a cross-shop in this segment. It's a PHEV compact hatch under $40k. If anything, the Clarity is the outlier right now as it's generally sized into it's own class.
"sport mode"
2:11 "hybrids & plug-in hybrids like the prius, the honda clarity, and of course the toyota prius"
The delay switching between drive and reverse in this car is really annoying and I would argue even a safety hazard. I went to make 3-point turn the other day, on an incline, and the car feel backwards a good 4-5 feet when I was in drive before finally moving forward. Good thing there weren't kids or dogs behind me...
I still like that I can get 45-50mpg even when driving the car like a dirty ball sack.
Prius Prime 4-seat-only is a deal breaker.
And the tiny cargo area.
How many people drive these cars with 5 passengers? Less than 0,5 %...
+Mgoblagulkablong Everyone with a family including me, every day. Even it it's only once a week, you're saying we need to either drive 2 cars or forego the trip altogether. Dumb response.
You are not everyone...
Break my beeeeef yo