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A lot of people find the idea of the EU a little confusing and complex - but wait until we show you this diagram explaining all of Europe's groupings. From the EU & Schengen to the Nordic Council & CEFTA, in this video, we explain how Europe's nations fit together.
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Thanks for all your brilliant feedback! We're planning on starting a bi-weekly series where we take a full episode to dive deeper into each of these groupings. Our Patreons are currently voting for which grouping we should discuss first, so expect to see the first video in the series next week - Jack
p.s. A bunch of people seem to be comparing this video to one by CGP Grey. Despite being a huge Grey fan, I had completely forgotten he even did a video on this topic. Regardless any similarities are probably because both of us based the video on a similar diagram, one that neither of us created - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Supranational_European_Bodies
It took until 1:20 for you to start to give any information whatsoever. Have a dislike.
Thank you for displaying the source link prominently. :)
I'm not exactly sure where to put this on the map in terms of "how Europe works", but there are also various other international cooperation councils and bodies. For instance, the Saami Council (representatives of indigenous people's in selected Nordic Countries and Russia). There are also issue-specific regional collaboration commissions, such as HELCOM and OSPAR which focus on marine governance and environmental protection. I don't quite see how those are exactly different than for instance the ECB or the GUAM groups, but they are also places where international (regional) meetings are held which support international collaboration and joint policy making. But great job with this!
@Mikael Jensen
Thank you!
Looks like the Danish Kingdom is almost as complicated as the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
YOU FORGOT THE MED 7
This chart could also double up as a who votes for who in the Eurovision Song Contest chart.
dramatic irony
Who the juries vote in current times, yes. It´s such a joke.
Expect for nordic countries..
@@AammaK Which country r u from?
@@yeet6806 the Nordic countries only vote for each other if they have a good song… they definitely biased like everyone else but at least they have some standards…. Not like Greece and Cyprus or the Baltics
Americans talking about European politics: "Wasn't Europe a single country?"
Meanwhile Europe: "Square root of 2; do it fast and with all digits."
"Wait isnt Georgia a southern state, and why are they part of guam? What is this bs?"
1.4142 ish
@@thecouch4702 its country just search it
@@mamukich1121 yeah ik that was the joke, i even put quotation marks
"Georgia is a part of Guam"
*American heads explode*
I'm a Georgian living in US for over a year and till this day there are still kids in school who don't believe that Georgia is a country.
@@amm287 :'D a name?
@@amm287 there's a US state also named Georgia
@@patriot3364 As a fellow American I wish you a warm welcome to our country. I hope you feel appreciated here
@@patriot3364 you live in the US for a year and there are still kids at school who didnt get shot?
Non European country: Europe is just one thing
Meanwhile Europe: x²²⅘ / y⁴⅖
Good one haha :D
Or when Americans compare the EU to their federation 🤦
@@lenn939 actually they don't know what's EU 😂
@@lenn939 someday bruh
So that's why Turkey doesn't understand Europe.
I actually find it a fairly simple grouping considering how many sovereign governments are included.
That's a lot of people to get to agree on things.
All speaking their own language!!
@@kiradotee or some speaking several languages looking at you Belgium and Switzerland where less then 3 is not good enough...
@Nspnspker The EU is a great step towards a future real single world goverment cause if a continent with so many wars and hate towards eachtoher can find a way to work together there is a hope for a world wide system aswell.
Is the EU perfect no and proberbly will never be comepletely, you have to deal with way to many different cultures to achieve that.
(And before someone says it works for the US. Works yes just like the EU in a sence but its also not perfect in anyway.)
@Nspnspker Maybe a world government is inevitable but as a Brexiteer the way EU is set up is unworkable. You need a form of democracy. One that encompasses cultural differences. One that chooses it's leaders and not one that is a burocratic mess, and gravy train like the EU model.
@@pinchermartyn3959 I am always confused by this argument. Do you not remember the EU parliamentary election that gives every citizen of the EU a direct vote last year? It's not that long ago. And I'm pretty sure the Brexit lot had themselves elected just to try and skim off as many diets as they could possibly get right before the end and generally trying to mess with any EU legislation to score political points about how necessary it is to leave the EU.
Don't get me wrong, the EU has its flaws, but to say the EU is undemocratic in comparison to the UK is ridiculous. The UK doesn't even have a goddamn constituition, England suppresses the voting rights of the other member states whenever it suits them and you have nobles composing one half of your government. I'm not saying the house of lords is necessarily a bad thing, direct democracy has its own flaws as is clearly visible with something like Brexit passing (arguably not really in a direct democracy way though), but to accuse the EU of having an unworkable Union system as a Brit...
Math finals for 9th grade:
Steve have 4 cows, each cow give 10 litres of milk. Please group all the European countries correctly
Cefta
I would like to see the 3h version of the video...
He could put an historical perspective to help to understand.
@@gohanssj48 If he did, the video would last days, not hours.
@@tessjuel which would be better tbh
*Scotland whispers* "Send help."
@vunderground1 would be a shame if your nuclear sub had to be housed in another shit hole, such as under the London Bridge.
@SteinbrecherBack there was a report ages ago about the Trident vessels saying about absolutely shite they they are inside. Can't remember the chaos name but he got really fucked up after coming out about it all.
@Livestream Fail yeah people kept saying this rhetoric, dunno where it came from or why... But ask any Tory, that has hired Cambridge Anyltica, and they'll explain to you happily that if you can repeat nonsense enough times, people will repeat it and most won't question it, for if a lot of people say it, it gives it credibility. Sort of like writing on the side of a bus a promise for more spending to the NHS if people voted to leave the EU, only for Nigel garage to laugh and say on live TV on the day of the result, that it wasn't true. Repeated rhetoric does not mean it is truth, correct and accepted. And traitor? No, friend, I've never been traitorous to my country. And, even if it that were about the UK, I have the freedom of expression, I can freely refuse the concept of Brexit. I have the Right to express this. Or, would you be against freedom of expression and opinion, and a democratic right of voting? Just because is disagree with you? Which is it?
@Livestream Fail we'll see about that i guess. someone remind me to come back to this comment by the end of 2022, i want to see if we really DID get another independence referendum. i think we will. independence means independence, by the way. scotland will not become a vassal state you mong lmao
@Livestream Fail the referendum u mentioned was done before Brexit talks even came to existance, so ur comparison is not correct
You could have also added a grouping with Australia: countries participating in the Eurovision song contest.
Israel too
I would like more detailed episodes, for the individual relations.
Me too :-)
Make them ALL!
Me too, but also a more general one, this one was a little to detailed for me to comprehand.
I would love the details on the individual relations, too.
PLEASE DO make a whole series about these relationships! I'm an American and didn't know most of these agreements/ etc existed at all. So without enough background knowledge, I could barely follow everything I was being told. I'd love to learn more, and your videos are fantastic at being informative but concise, and typically give me a springboard if I want to do further research. This video, being an overview of a lot, did the concise thing well, but sacrificed the context of these things that personally I NEED to be able to store things in memory. I remember things by their connection to other things, so yeah. I'd really appreciate a whole series on this!
There is not much context though. They just started cooperating for economic reasons and to prevent another world war. This is a reason a lot Europeans are eurosceptic. Because not much ties us together except "western values" and economy. An easy way to remember these agreements is to make a tier list and you'll notice it's just like an exclusive club where you get more privileges the more economically strong you are and the more you contribute.
floramew don’t worry, I am European and I didn’t know half of these. Kudos to you for being willing to learn. Americans are notorious for being uninformed about anything that happens outside their backyard.
Let’s hope they make a series. What I feel was missing in this video is a word on the actual economical and political weight of all those groups.
Just wanted to say have fun with your research and learning! It's very refreshing to see an American take an interest outside their borders (I'm sorry that probably sounds rude but I don't know a better way to say it)
u damn ignorant shit...not only thw US exists you know there are other countries too
@Dan Smulders I mean, we learn about western European history kind of... but no, anything more recent than WWII outside the US is pretty much the domain of university.
This is the EU Channel, you guys can change the pound sign to a euro sign (5:05). Love the videos.
Ouch 😂 but you're right 😂
I think this every time they do it 😂😂
no one in EU speak English
TLDR does have an issue with the EURO. Is like they don't like it.
@@AndreiDudaupersonal
Ahh..., those LLLL's were money signs like $$$$ and €€€€?
How interesting that the UK in a single stroke went from being one of the big 3 in the EU to now be connected to Europe by only the CTA agreement with the ROI. That just amazes me.
That amazes Londoniumians too
@@smokyislay living in San Diego is there a difference implied between Londoniumians and Londoners ?
@@bdfoxfire The first ones are living in the spirit of the glorious Roman Empire and dream of a pan-European „democracy“, while the later ones are just people, native to London.
Estonia as far as I remember is a non-voting member of the Nordic Council.
That's for all 3 Baltics indeed
So they are part of the council but they have not been granted the rank of master... Ironic
@@erickgomez7775 Well, that's one way to put it
@@erickgomez7775 you know what it leads to in the future "breathing sounds"
@@erickgomez7775 It's because of the Cold War. It takes a little bit of time to sort things out and reconnect after that incident. The cultural and economic ties between Baltic and Nordic have grown constantly stronger ever since it ended though so it may only be a matter of time.
There are two other organisations that should have been mentioned here btw, the Baltic Assembly consistsing, as the name says, of all three Baltic states and NB8 (Nordic-Baltic Eight) consisting of - well, you guessed it.
Looking beyond that, there are regular formal meetngs between NB8 and Visegrad (did they mention Visegrad in the video? That's Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary and Slovakia). Oh, and then there's Northern Future Forum (NB8+UK). It's a more informal forum but may become significant in the future since it's one of the few ties between UK and the rest of Europe not affected y Brexit.
I like our European union. It might be a messy place but it's as good as it ever was.
No. I hate it.
@@ruzzsverion2728 What you like or dislike is not the same as it actually is.
This didn’t age well 😂😂
@@tillyt4054 What changed in 4 months?
@@ruzzsverion2728 Why?
Leaders of europe in the middle age had to remember complicated dynasties and family connection.
Leaders of Europe today: say what? 😂
naah this is far simpler then trying NOT to marry your cousin in middle age nobility...
"Just don't tell Estonia they have been left out of this group" Correct me if i'm wrong, but I do believe that the Baltic states are allowed to observe in the Nordic Council
Yes and Latvia and Lithuania are fine with that Estonia is not.
@@aleks5405 I disagree Estonia like Finland was part of Sweden for centuries. The Nordic countries are not united by language but by shared history.
@@aleks5405 Yes. To sum it up only former vikings are Scandinavians. Finland and Estonia didn't really have any vikings.
@@MrVannspreder Actually they did, and for longer then Scandinavia too...
@@MrVannspreder to be fair, it's the Nordic Council, not the Viking or Scandinavian Council. So if Finland is in as former part of Sweden, Estonia should too
Ireland opting out of Schengen was due to the UK wanting to opt out. Since the vast majority of European travel from Ireland was either to Northern Ireland or the mainland UK it was more valuable to maintain the common travel area.
Yeah. Combine the Schengen zones absolute demand for stricit schengen outer border checks to enabled dismantling internal checks with Common Travel Area demanding no checks between UK and ROI. End result is either both ROI and UK are in or out schengen. Just one being in with the other out would mean violating either Schegnen treaty or Common Travel Area treaty. It is legally not possible.
So pretty much the Common Travel Area would have to join Schengen, not ROI or UK. So if either ROI or UK don't for whatever reason want to join.... well so can't the other. if EU TRIED (which they never will, because opt-out) to demand ROI joining Schengen as part of EU membership, they would have to answer "that is legally impossible, it would violate our international treaty obligations."
So basically, for practical reasons both RoI and the EU had to submit to the wishes of the UK. And Brexiteers keep claiming that the EU is a bully. SMH
Yeah but as EU members, there is free movement between Ireland and EU states anyway, just bring your passport, but it’s not stamped or anything.
Ireland has the best of both worlds really, with EU membership and the Common Travel Area with UK.
@@darrencorr5903 so I can go up north and get on a boat to Scotland and not have to show my passport to get into UK?
Yup, open border between ROI and NI, then once you’re in NI you’re already in UK so travelling internally then
Just remember folks. It's either this, or we go back to the last thousand years of wars, wars and more wars.
A funny little thing about Estonia: Back when Estonia used to be part of the Soviet Union, people there quite often spoke Finnish, at least this is what I heard. As I visited there last year, I couldn't use Finnish anywhere. But luckily most of young Estonians they have learned English, so I had no problem there. I just had to pretend I'm travelling abroad.
It's not like we spoke Finnish in our day-to-day conversations. Not commonly anyway. It's that Finnish TV signals reached Northern Estonia which is the most populous area in Estonia. Being free and uncensored plus having lots of exciting foreign shows and films, Finnish TV channels became very popular over here. That is despite the efforts made by the Soviet administration in restricting people's access to those channels. As a result a lot of Estonians learned Finnish by watching Finnish TV. This also contributed to us holding Finland as a model for a future free Estonia.
Today we have our own free media and access to almost the whole world's media as well, so the popularity of Finnish TV and the Finnish language has dropped among Estonians. But many still like to watch it and Finnish language courses are still among the most popular language courses in Estonia.
@@X3h0n; Yes, I guessed something like that was the case, when Soviet Union was in power. But now it doesn't matter anymore because as you said, now you have your own free media.
Well, I tried to order in Finnish in a restaurant in Tallin. But she didn't know Finnish. Or maybe she didn't want to? But it was not a problem, I know enough English to get understood. However, I was a bit surprised there.
@@OldieBugger *Tallinn
@@OldieBugger as closely related as they are, Estonian and Finnish are still two different languages. It's not that they "didn't want to" speak in Finnish, it is that it isn't the same as Estonian. Same as assuming Castilian and Portuguese are the same and that you can use the first when in a Portuguese speaking country, just because.
@@OldieBugger thing is the once who were young adults when the ussr fell are starting to get quite old now so finding someone younger then 50 who speak Finnish is not that easy you will be better off with Russian.
9:12 The Nordic cooperation has been (and still is) important for the Nordic countries. These countries, all social democracies in one way or another, formed a close partnership after the WWII, with a passport union, free movement of people (not goods), a common labour market, universal rights to live in any of the other countries, with full access to health care, social services, education and so on.
just unite and make 1 country called Scandinavia
@@Adrivan Last time tried in 1397. Failed eventually, leading up to the countless and very confusing Nordic wars. But, today, it could be possible. The result would have been a country of almost 30 mill people, with advanced economies, enormous natural resources, and a well-educated population. But very different international alignments do form major obstacles. Nato, EU, and so on. And Sweden would be the major power. Norway, Finland and Denmark tend to regard too many of those posh Stockholm Swedes as somewhat arrogant and self-serving :-)
@@Adrivan The Kalmar Union ended in disaster, let's maybe not try that again. And it would make no sense calling it "Scandinavia" as Iceland and Finland are not part of that.
@@janhanchenmichelsen2627 essentially like England the UK. 😃
@@kiradotee afraid so ... ;-)
There's also the Weimar Triangle that consists Poland, Germany and France :D
Yes - more detailed video please! This is so facinating!
Yes please! We want a series! :)
1:10 this graphic implies that Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania and Croatia are not in the EU
it is wrongly marked since that was the eurozone, not the union... that is the problem ..
it also implies that ireland is part of the united kingdom
@@chxxrlo It doesn’t, Ireland and the UK have a common travel area.
And for this reason: dislike.
@@bart_rz no i know that but it points at the box ireland and the uk are in and says "united kingdom" at 1:10
Please make a series out of this because it is pretty intresting
Great video! Geez! When is the test? I’ll have to watch it about 5 times - really complicated. Thanks so much from sunny California.
A video series about each grouping would make for a great playlist on your channel. Might help you catch the interest of people studying the EU for the first time too.
I would like to see a video about BeNeLux and the Nordic Council
King Leopold II of Belgium we liked the Nordic Council so much here in scandinavia, that we have two of them!
(Yes. Really. In practice, they work as a single one but there really are two. Just one of those “European things”, I guess...)
Please do additional videos on Benelux & CEFTA. Would be much appreciated.
Id absolutely *LOVE* this to be a full series! Please do so!
More Deatils! I would watch tentatively a series on each aspect of the EU you explained here. Thank You its very informative and useful information.
Nordic Council and Baltic Assembly together are the Baltic-Nordic Eight which is a cooperation framework between the 8 nations
4:05 "cosovo and montenegro"
*shows flags of UN and montenegro*
@petar petrovic ok serb
It's right tbh. UN forces are the one who controls Kosovo, not "kosovar" army
“cosovo”😂 Refrain from making an idiot of yourself😂
@@user-zk3cx5gc8h in forces? How about The UN resolution 1244⁉️
I'd love to see a proper deep dive on all of this. One concern I have with simply having an episode for each grouping is, that it might be difficult to represent the complex interactions between two or more groups which shape European politics on so many matters. I'd love to see some content dedicated to that.
This is one of the best videos I've seen about Europe and our unions. Thank you so much!!!
5:08 Why would anyone have to pay taxes in pounds? It should've been euros.
I'd love a series explaining all of these relations in depth.🙂
Great video!
please go deeper, amazing work!
thanks a lot
Just to add more in complexity: There's also the Craiova group, comprising Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece. They are similar in scope as the Visegrad Group
Baltic "Group" you mean "Assembly".... By the way, "Nordic Council" and "Baltic Assembly" form "Nordic-Baltic Eight"
wow that was surprisingly helpful, thanks 😀
Amazing video. Thank you!
The diagram is also handy for figuring out the Eurovision voting blocs!
There's also the OSCE (Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe)
Really great video. I would love to here more about the sub groups! Thx for all your insights :-)
Thank you for this one :D
When you discuss the groupings in the lightening round e.g Nordic group, please list the names, not just the flags.
I liked the Estonian cross flag :-) but great video plus the visuals are amazing!
Great video
Very informative and well explained video. Please make a detailed video on EU-EFTA Relations.
The Benelux by many dutch is still seen as a core relationship, many feel that relations with Austria and the Nordic Countries should be strengthned.
Please make a video about the EU-MERCOSUR trade deal (this is my 6th petition)
great video
Now this, this is a great tldr video.
Very similar take and charts as CGP Grey's Video
Despite being a huge Grey fan, I had completely forgotten he even did a video on this topic. Regardless any similarities are probably because both of us based the video on a similar diagram, one that neither of us created - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Supranational_European_Bodies
The sheer burden of existing
yes more videos on grouping would like a deep dive into all
Love it, do that follow up video!
My girlfriend is a political scientist. She says you did a really good job explaining all of that in such a short video. But my head is still hurting.
I would like to get information about the institutions of THE EU European Commission Vs European Council Vs Council of Europe, ECJ, etc
the official EU websites has good and detailed info about the institutions
Yes more of these please!!!
Great video 🙂
Before I even watch the whole thing, yes. A series on groupings would be perfect!!!
Making a single Venn Diagram to cover them all must have been a nightmare :)
This video certainly opened my eyes to some of the groups in Europe
where was this channel a month ago when i needed it for my economics exam :(
4:56 When you import for the EU but tax the products in pounds.
You forgot to mention eurovision which also includes Australia & New Zealand.
And Israel :)
Eurovision is (at least try to) not be political in any way so I think it would be wrong to have it on a list/map of political agreements and unions.
@@johanneskarlsson3859 eurovision is one of the most political events in a year lol.
@@ukilectric I said try...
Wow. This triggers my chart fetish real hard. Just how much time did it take you to arrange the flags in such a way that each group could be placed within a neat rectangle? Astounding.
Let's get videos of all the sub groups too! Sub-region groups like the Benelux, Nordic council and such would be interesting.
People say the EU is the 4th reich, when it really just the HRE 2.0 judging by how complicated it is.
If it comes to complexity the EU does not really compare to HRE. Not only is it vastly more territory but also a lot simpler in regards of political alliances, laws, standards and customs.
The HRE was neither holy, roman, or an empire.
@SteinbrecherBack hold up, it's just an internet joke, you're reading way too much into it.
SteinbrecherBack its the internet, others enjoy such references, chill
@SteinbrecherBack Triggered by an XVIIIth century punchline, ouch.
Pls do an entire series on the blocks it’s very bassd
It would be a great idea to make videos on each of the groups and see why they exist what the benefits are and the major dealings or controversies with the groups
8:00 They're actually sort of close to the centre of Europe. The east west centre is around Vilnius. Which means that in east western respect these countries are actually in close to the centre. That said they're slightly of to the south.
BeNeLux actually has it's own parliament. Like Belgium didn't have enough of those already ;-)
In relation to regional and economic organizations, if you guys ever decide to have a TLDR News Asia or Southeast Asia (SEA) a good starting point would be a video like this which discusses the following groups (from smallest to biggest): ASEAN, ASEAN Plus Three, ASEAN Plus Six, East Asia Summit, ASEAN Dialogue Partners, and APEC.
An informative diagram. A series would be nice.
proud to be european 🇪🇺
I hope you are not conflating Europe and the EU. As in the video, they are very different. I am sure we are all happily European.
@@iansheppard9736 Nope, I mean the EU.
@@d16d05 What of the Europe outside the EU? Surely that is just as much to be proud of?
@@iansheppard9736 I'm proud to be european and I think the European Union is a good futuristic project to support.
@@d16d05 What do you mean? Do you want it to integrate and be one? Because that'd be fucking awful. Down with the EU and onle keep the trade/diplomacy. Make it barely influencial.
Would love to see the same graphic for African Union
I would love a video about the european council! Keep the good work!
i would love to see a series that talks about each group
Why do you have the GBP symbol as the currency for imports?
What about the Three Seas initiative? I believe it should've been covered even though it's fairly new.
Please do a video for each of the groups
As a Dane I will happily make Estonia an honorary Nordic country until they will one day be officially recognized. Welcome brothers and sisters!
0:27 WRONG, you labeled the Eurozone as the EU here. Looks like that graphic is too overwhelming even to the people making a video explaining it lol
Thank you!
more details please. I am a student of the state university of law in Bucharest in Romania and this video explains some things more clearly and better than my college course. Thanks
CGP Grey is the real deal!!!
This has changed somewhat since he made his. Also he's specifically told his fans he don't mind other people doing videos on the same topic as him.
@@DaDunge he can't prevent people from doing videos on the same topics. 😂 It's just it's more beneficial to be FIRST when covering a subject. At least when people will be searching for videos it would appear.
@@kiradotee He explicitly asked his fans to not write "You stole this from CGP Grey" on videos about the same subjects. His reasoning was, he wasn't first, there is always someone before you and he doesn't like when people do it to him so he doesn't want his fans to do it to others.
Despite being a huge Grey fan, I had completely forgotten he even did a video on this topic. Regardless any similarities are probably because both of us based the video on a similar diagram, one that neither of us created - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Supranational_European_Bodies
@@TLDRnewsEU Yeah I think it was one of his first ones.
i feel like NATO would’ve been a good one to add
I don't see the value since it is not an European thing alone.
I have been waitint 5 years for a description of this.
Please do a video on the Council of Europe!
As a Swede, let Estonia into the nordics.
As a Dane, I must agree, they have asked since they became independant, and still we say no. We even said that Scotland was welcome if they left the UK (jokingly I know, but still), that got to hurt, and considering that it was Danish and Swedish territory during most of the middelages, it is kind of mean ;)
As a, Finn I commed your request.
(Originally I used condemn in place of commend so I had to re-do this... but at least it should be fine now).
As an American, they need to change their flag to be a palette swap of the other Nordic country flags.
@@JoelJames2 That's why they cannot join. They first need to correct the flag!
@@NAYRUthunder99 I think it would be beautiful if their flag was the nordic cross but with the same colours of the actual flag of Estonia.
Estonia please don't feel bad. You'll be Nordic one day.
This surely deserves more videos. EuroMed, NATO, the southern summit, all those deserve a little attention too, in my opinion.
I would watch a series or a 3 hours long video. And you forgot, among others already mentioned in the comments, the 3 seas initiative.
The Craiova Group (Quadrilateral), Craiova Four, or C4 is a cooperation project of four European states - Romania, Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia.
Wow, what a rubbish group…the butthole of Europe😂