My NEW Signature Hardtail Frame - The Stanton Sedona First Look
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- The Stanton Sedona is HERE! This is my new signature hardtail frame and I'm so excited to share it with the world. This is my idea of what the perfect green and black hardtail should be. It's got a strong bmx/dj/trials background to it, and it's the steel hardtail I wish existed before I designed it. With a short wheelbase, a short rear end, room for massive droppers, and a sensible head angle, this thing is designed to make boring trails exciting again. Note: As the co-designer of this frame, every sale of a Stanton Sedona supports my work and my channel. Your support means the world to me. Learn more and pre-order yours here: www.stantonbikes.com/collecti...
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Thanks for all the kind words everyone, this has been a labor of love 18 months in the making.
What do you think about the cable routing on the seat tube? Is it worth an extra 20mm of dropper post insertion to have a more complex initial cable routing?
Totally worth it, especially for short legged people. Looks like a fantastic design and beautiful too, congrats!
This super long insertion sets it apart from other frames at this size - so I think it's worth the hassle of getting the cable through.
Absolutely!
I'll play the role of dissenter, but I'm not sure it would be to me. No matter the bike, I think (for my height) that 180mm of drop is plenty. Plus do you really need that much drop for a bike that is designed for green/blue trails?
@@martyarnwineyes. Personally I’ll take every mm i can get. I’m 5’ 7’ and I’ve crammed a 210 in my bikes. the lower I can get the seat out of the way for manuals the better
That colorway is sick! Ode to the 70s. Beautiful bike.
You and Dan hit a home run with your new bike! Design looks great. Love the 70s vibes on the build.
Thanks Nick, that's high praise coming from you
So cool to see this and see Stanton back at it and making cool stuff after seemingly nearing the brink of death not so long ago. Love to see this!
Stanton Switchback MK1 rider here for 8 years. I'm so stoked of this collaboration. The result is absolutely awesome. What an achievement. Bravo!!!! :)
I can't wait to get on this bike my friend. It looks and sounds like it is right up my alley for the more calm rides. Love what you're doing and I pray daily your health get better ❤
Thank you so much
SOLD!! Got it in the Hardtail Party Sedona livery of course. Super excited!! And now the waiting… and the build considerations. I’m a Patron so I’ll likely come to you with questions at some point. Well done!
Congrats! Such a killer paint job, you're going to love it.
This is a work of art. Instantly want one!
Where hardtails are best! Couldn't agree more. That's the way to ride. Looks incredible.
Man, I absolutely love how that looks! Also, the way the bottom bracket was set back while still having a straight seat tube to get more dropper clearance is pretty trick! Great job!
Lead time is about 6 months landed to USA as of 5/15/24 according to Dan (Stanton) when I emailed in for those wondering.
I’m 5’4” rider and ride a 15” GT hardtail. I’ve hoped it up with Halo and fox. I love her. And a loved the bit about only finding a few bike you can stand over. Yes that is me too. I can’t I can’t even reach the hot sauce from the to of the cupboard. Awesome vid wicked looking frame.
Love the numbers on this. "Long" head tube, short seat tube, long top tube, angles. This is real good on paper.
Sweet collaboration Steve and Dan! Color-way is siiick! 🤤
More power to you Steve! Two signature hardtails (in two different metals) at once!
Oh wow!!! A great colaboration of US-and-Brit-Enthusiasts. Got to get one of these frames shipped to me in Germany. All the best to you, keep on going Steve!
So cool.
I love seeing your progression in frame design. All the attention to details and striving to make improvements on every iteration make me want this bike even more. I know it’s going to be a solid ride!
I saw this bike in a gmbn video from sea otter and it catched my eyes imediately. Today I just stumbled over Stanton website and looked on this. I was like yeah, I would like to see a video from you presenting it. I came home and there it was on youtube😅 it looks like a bike I would buy and keep forever, ride it till it falls apart. 😂 great stuff!
Love the colors on that one, with the tan wall tires and 5Dev cranks! 😍 I noticed that seat tube angle right away, but I know you'll have that squared away. 🤙🏻
i noticed the long top tube and this made me wonder about seat angle.
Awesome. Can't wait for the ride review.
Rad! Excited for this. Amazing!
Hard tail,to keep the speed in check!
Ok I know Kashima is never necessary.. but this bike would look sick with a Kashima fork n dropper. Just sayin!
That’s a pretty dope frame for the money too
Saw this was up for pre-order yesterday and was eagerly awaiting this video!
Congratulations Steve, I'm digging it Brother.......🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾🫡
Looks stunning!! 🙌🏼🤩
Congratulations. 👌🏼
That really is beautiful! Congrats
The bike is beautiful 🤩. Those cranks look fantastic on it too.
Very cool! looking forward to the ride review
bro! congrats!
Thanks again for producing and showing us another amazing bike. It is really good looking. I would love to have one of the Stanton Sedona MTB'S!
Looks great I cant wait to see you riding it on Sedona!
Looks incredible!
Love its oldschoool wibe, great looking bike. Looking forward for the ride review. 🤟
Nice looking bike guys good work can’t wait for the ride review
That paint job! Chef Kiss!
Very cool , great addition to the fleet . Looking good my man!
Looks sick, can't wait to hear the ride review
Looks beautiful! I hope it becomes a success!
Great looking frame!!!!!!
Gorgeous bike. Oh man.
You have to be proud of that work Steve! The passion and knowledge reflect on that Sedona bike!
You influence me to push "enter" for a Steely RSD MC...and you still continue to...KeepOnRollin'! 😈🤙
Im absolutely thrilled with how it turned out.
Very nice!!
Absolutely gorgeous, I'm riding a Chameleon right now, but when I have the funds to try steel - this will be it.
I really, really like it! The frame color is amazing! I am seriously thinking about ordering one.
This looks so good Steve! I think I will be picking one up. :)
I JUST got a frame that I'm really happy with but brother these geo numbers are so sick and i wish i saw this sooner. The industry needs more people like you pushing bikes like this.
Hey congrats! That thing looks eager.
Perfect colorway, perfect hardtail, great work. That would look great hanging out of the back of a Toyota 4x4.
That is a bloody lovely looking bike!
Nice project man. Congrats!
Just put my preorder in - I am excited!!! 🤩
Congrats! Thank you for supporting my work, it means a ton
Very nice, I'm excited to learn more and how it compares to the Turner Nitrous as that is still the top of my list for getting a new hardtail.
I talk about that over on the patreon extended cut review.
You and Dan need to collaborate more often 🔥🔥🔥
Love it Steve. Just my style.
Love the look of this frame! Looks like a bike that would work really well here in the Midwest.
Exactly!
I love this, especially the color and the high stack. I'm a proud UK switch9er owner...the gen4 is now longer so it's good to see this available in more size options.
Looks tasty. Cant wait to see one in the flesh. Well done Steve
Gorgeous first look, what a bike!!! Craftsmanship looks fantastic steel is real with this one no doubt!!! Great job 👍 Steve, looking forward to the ride review and what shuttle changes you want made on the production model!!!
Pretty excited about sliding dropouts as I’ve been loving my old MTB set up single speed this year.
thats a beautiful bike
This thing is extremely beautiful. Damn. I want ot have it.
Cool colour way. ❤
Tan wall tires with matching cranks look damn nice on that frame!
Damn what a beauty!
The Toyota-ish brown orange stripes from the 80’s look cool
Beautiful bike! Im going to start saving my pennies
Hi Steve! Have you tested clearance for 27.5 x 2.8 tires?
That is sweeeeet!!!
Killer looking bike! I still think, adding the dropper port and making life easier is better then dealing with the string.
For inserting the string for the dropper cable: Maybe attach a small weight (like a needle) at the end of the string, insert the string from the front and then turn the frame upside down once the string reaches the bottom bracket?
Beautiful bike btw.!
I tried that. It was too hard to get it to round the corner and make it in the hole in the DT. The vacuum worked great once the string was through the seat tube into the dt
Good to know Stanton is going to have sliding dropouts. I’ve been looking at their frames but I wanted something with longer chainstays.
I like it
Looks great! I like the revised water bottle mounts on the seat tube. The ones on my gen 3 Sherpa really limit seat tube insertion. Also nice to see the dropper insert position on the side of the down tube and not on the bottom.
Thanks. It's the little details that count
Completely agree on 31.6 seat tube choice! All Cotic’s (or at least all of mine!) are 31.6 and it just allows frame swaps between bikes to be so much easier.
Personally the dropper cable install would be a big turn-off for me, I’d rather lose some insertion to be honest in exchange for an easy build.
The bike looks epic in that colour though 🤌
Nice
Beautiful Frame, Would love to hear your take on Carbon rims on quality steel frames like the Stanton.
I have a Switch9er Gen3 and its something so special and fits me like a glove.
Thank you for your work!
So sweet! A 320mn max insertion depth is crazy on a little bike like that. A OneUp 240 has a lower shaft length of just under 340 if I recall correctly, so you’d probably have room to include something to help route dropper cables through without inhibiting max insertion too badly.
This new “Sedona” signature bike looks and sounds awesome. What’s the frame weight compared to the Sherpa? I am also sharing my 2-cents experience as a Sherpa owner. In my area, we have lots of sticky mud (winter and farm watering); this mud gets stuck on the rear bridge above the tire. Mud and rocks also get stuck on and in the area near the bottom bracket (in front of the rear tire). On my Sherpa, as the metal is not round and has cut-outs, it hurt the paint, and rust is starting. I hope you give it some thought before going into production.
Dang, was looking at an Esker Japhy, but this has definitely thrown a wrench into my plans. Looks so good!
The japhy is a wonderful bike with a bit different flavor. My wife rides a ti japhy as her main hardtail. Wonderful nike, but way slacker than this.
Looks great. What’s the stack and reach?
Also I love that shirt!
It's what I was looking for, something like taking my dirt and street bike from 10 years ago to the mountains. I don't need it anymore, but before I would have wondered if it's possible to do a barspin without the wheel hitting the pedal? It looks similar to the Mutant and Dartmoor frames I used to have on my 26".
9Point8 has a dropper head so you can have 25mm of set back or set forward. That would steepen the seatube up. It may look a little funny, though. I use their setback head.
😎👌beautiful build, my dropouts on my big al worked loose until i put threadlocker on the bolts🤔is it best to wait for the threadlocker to dry before installing them, or just put them in straitaway🤔👍
I use a non liquid threadlocker, like chapstick. No need to wait for it to dry
Excellent build! As for colourway, how close can you get to the red of its namesake? And would 2 water bottle mounts on the downtube be feasible?
Many improvements in the frames are thanks to the suggestions and reviews of this channel, for example not interrupting the seat tube with bottle holder screws, and more separated chainstays for wide tires.
Dan let me choose everything about this frame, including where the tubes intersected, where the bosses were, and where the cable ties landed. After riding over 100 modern hardtails, i have a pretty good idea about what the ideal hardtail should have.
🤩. Curious how differently it rides compared to a sherpa
Apart from the head angle, the geo is quite different,.so it should be noticeable to almost everyone.
This is the bike I needed. I am short and do not like the new geometry. I could not replace my 14 slash with a new one because I was in between sizes and hated it. My meta ht ohlins took some time to get use to the new geo. My paradox is a tad long too
Very cool. What is the seat tube angle at sag? I seem to remember Dan mentioning he measures the angles at sag.
Was thinking the same but then the head angle would be off
Damn this looks so perfect for my riding. I have a Ragely BigAl '22 now but I don't need the 140mm, this would balance out a bit better. Too bad I'm not able to jump into this first batch and get that sweet limited 70's toyota paintjob.
Beautiful bike! If you steepen the seat tube in the production model, will that increase rear tire clearance?
No, the width is the limiting factor, not the height (seat tube)
You can use the garbage disposal cleaner to route the string which is very flexible and small enough to fit through.
Cool, thanks for the suggestion. Ill have to research that a bit more.
I like the current dropper post routing. The less holes the better in a steel frame. One question, I currently ride a large Trek Roscoe and feel comfortableon it. I'm 6'2" and have short legs. Should I order the 19 or the 18? The 18 is closer to my current frame than the 19, but my gut is telling me go with the 19, so I'm torn. I'm ready to pre-order as soon as I figure out what size. Thanks!
Size this based on reach (the distance to the bars when standing). This is designed to be run with a longer stem than a lot of modern shreddy bikes, so i recommend sizing 10mm shorter reach than what you normally run on aggressive hardtails, or 20mm shorter than an enduro fs.
If you want it to be more aggressive, size up. If you want it to be more playful and designed for slower speeds, size down
Love the color!
but where did that oil slick handlebars go :D
Awesome looking bike!! Sounds like it will be fun to ride!! I was actually looking at getting a Roscoe 9 but after seeing this I might just hold off and order your fame and build my own. Do you happen to know how the frame sizing relates to rider height or inseam? I can't seem to find any correlation on the website. TIA!
With so much dripper available on all sizes, j tend not to size with height or inseam. I tend to recommend people size based on reach (which often correlates to torso length)
Love this Sedona. I have a 18” Switch9er which I love but have always found a tiny bit too small. I’m 6”2 would you recommend 18” or 19”? Thanks.
I recommend sizing based on preferred reach rather than height.
Think I’m gonna go 18” with a 50mm stem 👍
I also value max dropper and this looks like a great design for that. This frame looks dialed. Want!
Are these dropouts compatible with the old DMR swopouts?
I dont know, in not familiar with the dmr swap outs
What were the pre and post build weights?