2024 Orbea Laufey First Look - The New and Improved Orbea Laufey Gen 3
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- Orbea has released their new 2024 Laufey hardtail, and we're here to take a first look at it. This has seen some significant updates over the previous generation. I'm excited for what's in store: on-board storage, completely straight seat tube, clearance for 29x2.6, and a tuned frame for increased compliance. What's your favorite feature?
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Nice bike ! The thing I appreciate about Obrea bikes is it is a Co Op . Meaning it is employee owned. So the employee share the profits . I personally think this is a great business model that should be implemented much across industries.
Thanks Steve! Hope you’re feeling better these days.
i see a HTP video, i watch it. Glad to see you looking healthy dude. Keep preaching the good word!
I do appreciate trying to convince the industry to come out with bikes with 165mm cranks. I have GX 165mm cranks on both my bikes. My knees thank them.
Patiently waiting for the trail ride review of this one
I agree, the branded parts spec is amazing, especially when many hardtail’s are kitted with house brand parts. As for the frame and geo, I think it puts it directly in the Enduro and stable at high speed category. Can’t wait to see your ride impressions.
Always glad when you post!
Nice honest review, thanks 🙏
Hope we get to see more companies adopting in frame storage 🤞
Great first look Steve!!! Nice frame and great spec for the price. Looking forward to you review and see if it makes the list of those bikes with the secret sauce!!!
Any wait for the review. Seems like a great bike
Oh wow, finally the new Laufey up for review! It is a really nice looking bike, hope it rides as nice as it looks.
I just built up a new Chameleon frame and I'm loving it, but man, this bike has some cool features like the seat post routing and frame storage that I wish it had! That thing just looks fun to ride, great video thanks again!
Frame storage on a hard tail is awesome !!!!
This bike might actually make me go back from full-sus. Orbea is killing it with their new bikes!
Its beautiful
Love that bike, and actually considered it but ended up getting a Roscoe 9. For the parts spec I actually don't get the difference, they look very similar to me except that Trek uses their Bontrager parts around (that I think are great).
For the pricepoints it has to be considered that I live in Italy, so the Roscoe here costs 2000€ approx, that is 500€ cheaper than the equivalent Orbea, but I got mine on sale for a 20% off, so it was a no brainer at that point
My oldest Orbea has done 20.542,3 km Alu Orbea Alma H20 from 2018 and stil rides fine.
Hi Steve, i got the Laufey H-LTD from 2022, i bought it last year. Some people complained about the brakes, cause only deore 2 piston. To me no problem. Bar and Stem were Race face, wheels, bottom bracket and cranks as well. Only things i changed were grips and the saddle, grips were BC Orbea and the saddle was a Fitzik not fittin my bud. I took Ergon grips and SQlab saddle. But the bike is real fun. Okay, it's pretty stiff....but to me it doesen't matter. I'm waitin' for your ride to judge the new Laufey. Best whishes from Germany, stay powered under high voltage🖖
👍great content as always, nearly bought the orbea, but i liked your big al review, so settled for that😎had it for a year👌no regrets🤔frames dropouts work loose every now an then😆just torqued them to 3nm with threadlocker👍
Awesome 🔥
I'm missing the external cable routing and a nice Laufey badge on the HT
I would love to see you reviewing a Crossworx Zero290 and/or a Dartmoor Hornet🥰
I love how Orbea offers custom paint jobs on some of their high end builds.
It's got nice lines.
I have a 2021 laufey in size small and I love it , very capable bike and could definitely if I only had one bike . Frame is a little stiff bit that's the only con on the laufey. I'm excited to ride the new model .
As someone riding a 2022 Chameleon R 29er (with a couple $$ upgrades) set up, I'm jelly of this part spec!
Long live the Party!
Love what you do. Now if you can just come build my new hardtail for me 🤣
Building bikes is so much fun. Go for it!
@@hardtailparty do you have any videos about the manitou mezzer pro fork. I just picked one up for a banshee build.
I wanted to get the first gen Laufey, but no luck in getting my size in my area at the time.
Personally, I love fatter tires on hardtails and I am currently running 27.5 x 2.8. I have looked at getting a set of 3.0's, but some are pricey or limited availability
In my 27,2mm seatpost i could fit dropper post but it won't work that nicely .
Let’s see if you like it after some rides, I hope so. The bike has little nice details everywhere, and it’s also the first alloy bike in the market with downtube storage (for a reason😅) It’s a bike made for the hardtail community, intended to be nice but also practical.
What does frame storage have to do with hardtails or FS?
I absolutely love my Occam, but I dont think this will be my next hardtail. Looks like a hard charger meant for going up and down and at 7/10ths or more. Probably the wrong bike for places with low elevation, and that bb is really low for navigating craggy terrain.
I look forward to the ride review.
I want to get a hard tail soon and I've narrowed it it to the laufey, sc chameleon and the nukeproof scout
CRC is gone, so tracking down a brand new Scout will be hard.
Looks like a solid factory MTB.
Steve, what is your health update? You seem better in the videos.
Health updates are over on patreon. Unfortunately my health is getting worse, not better.
Just got that exact bike a few days ago. Only took it on a short ride. Didn't feel anymore or less compliant than my 2021 giant fathom but haven't gone tubeless yet so wasn't running low tire pressure. Those tires are too heavy and slow for me. Gonna throw bontrager xr3/xr4 tire combo that I run on the fathom to make it more zippy. Love the climbing position with the seat angle though. Didn't feel playful, but I don't ride playful anyways so it doesn't bother me. I also like the cool symbols on the downtube. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on how it rides. I've only been riding a few years and the only other hardtail I've ridden is my fathom so I can't make as good of a comparison as you will be able to make with your experience. Glad you are able to still get out and ride. Cheers!
What size did you go for, and how tall are you? How you finding it? I'm probably going to pick one up in the coming week or so, but torn on the sizing. I'm 187cm. Firmly in the XL according to their charts, but everything is so long these days..
@RichMcIsaac I'm a bad example for sizing, I'm short with really long arms so I don't think I can help you with sizing comparison. I rode the bike again on some steeper aggressive stuff and it rides really good on that which is what I wanted it for. It also does feel more supple than I originally thought. Overall it felt really good, I'm sure I'll like it even more when I go tubeless with my proffered tire setup
Does this frame similar to laufey h30 or h10 2024? Also would be better a laufey h30 2024 to a stoic 2 or 4?
Will we see a Orbea Alma on this channel?
It’s a lot like my Rocky Mountain Growler 40 I picked up in January, except it’s double the price. This Orbea is as much as cross country bike as my RM Growler is, which is not a cross country bike at all. I guess the main geo difference, is a 10 mm higher bottom bracket, which would be nice. But if I gotta spend an additional $1600 for an additional 10 mm clearance , I’ll stick with RM Growler and throw some Race Face Chester pedals on it, which is what I did.
Hey Steve, this is Nick from PHX, with the MMMBOP. Now that Ragley as we know it is no more, I'm keeping my eye out for potential replacements l, should something unfortunate occur. Speaking of engineered frame flex; do you think that the more flexible sections end up fatiguing and failing early? How long do you think more flexible aluminum frames will last with hard riding? You're looking fit and healthy. How are you feeling lately?
Ill bet you have many more great years on your mmmbop, what a bike.
24' Orbea Occam m10 with Reynolds Blacklabel 329 Trail Pro wheels is way, way on top of the list of the 100-ish bikes I've ridden. Its so, so fast for being somewhat of a "Stumpjumper EVO." Can't help but appreciate the bike.
The 440 chainstays are "business class." But, the speed of the bike is overwhelming "fun."
Ist das merida big trail 600 optisch geiler,was meint ihr
I have an Occam H20 LT. I really like it but heart heart is with a HT. I've always owned a HT and wont ever give them up. I have Trek Marlin but I think It will upgrade to the this Laufey. Wow.
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Big thanks for Video. How about BMC Twostroke Al. ? It's cheaper, XC oriented bike. I'd really like to see it on Your Channel.
Uve tried to get one in. Since they don't distribute in the US, they're reluctant to send me one.
Hmmm,
Decisions!
I’m looking to add a hardtail.
I was set on the Roscoe 9 since they are now discounted to $1999. But now this Orbea has my attention, but is it worth it at $2999 when I can get a Roscoe 9 for $1999?
I was interested in the Roscoe too but the seat tube had bolts on it which is not great for dropper posts. In the end i brought the Chameleon because i wanted a versatile frame!
Hey Steve, I've noticed a tendency with droppers to increase the diameter to increase the stiffness. That sounds great on a full-sus but maybe the opposite of what we want for a hardtail. It seems like the flex in a seatpost is a major source of comfort on a hardtail. Any thoughts on that?
All the builder i talk to say the seat tube isnt where flex is happening, and it makes sense. an extra .7mm diameter isnt going to make a huge difference. Anyway, having a dripper in there would prevent flex anyway
@@hardtailparty Aha OK thanks.
I was thinking more about the diameter of the dropper post itself than the frame's seat post. i.e. a longer, thinner dropper post will flex more.
Mind you I think you're right, 0.7mm difference doesn't sound like a lot now you mention it.
I guess the frame builders must know from those flex test machines.
For a hardcore hardtail build, would you go with this frame or Pole Taival?
There are a few others id choose instead. That's the kind of thing i consult on over on patreon. Patreon.com/hardtailparty
I've never seen an aluminum bike with frame storage... Ugh, now i am tempted to go cut a hole in my frame 😂 That's probably a bad idea!
It would have been great to see a bit more of downtube protection than a transparent sheet.
The components brand isn't "BC" but rather "OC" (like Orbea Components).
And for the dropper, I did some research with the dimensions of my OC dropper and I also found that the SDG Tellis seems to be the coldest match to be rebranded 😉
*closest, not coldest.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. The logo looks identical to bc (bike components from germany)
I see an issue with them lopping off that extra height on the seat tube, even with a hardtail it appears that the seat might hit the back wheel if it was any lower.
It wont, it can go down a LOT lower. See my maniak
You ever check out Merman Cycles?
Just a mention of the Sedona to tease us!
😉 I think the ultimate tease would be showing all the details and then not being able to order it. As soon as preorders are open ill release my video.
@@hardtailparty Very true! Sounds like the video is already filmed and ready to go. Hopefully, those preorders are going to open soon.
I was between this and Commencal Meta HT, went with the Meta and don't regret it one bit. The Laufey frame is fantastic.. but I feel like the builds are way too expensive for the not great components they come with. I've also been hearing a lot of bad things about Orbea customer service lately and even a lot of dealers dropping them. For 3k this should have a fox 36 performance at least, and a better seatpost. I feel like I got a much better deal with the Meta.. similar frame and better parts for $600 less.
Weight?
I wonder if the previous gen Laufey was more of an allrounder than this.
I'll be curious to see how the ride feel differs.
Does anyone own this in a size small? I'm thinking about it but the fact that all sizes share the same chainstay length makes me think they designed this around a medium or large. My current bike (not a ht) has size specific rear ends, growing 6mm per size and I think it's the way to go.
I'm not a fan of downtube storage. Mostly because, they are not big enough. A tube and a few tools barely fit. If the downtube had a larger diameter, it would be much more useful. I wouldn't mind that it added a little extra weight. Also, I would prefer that the water bottle wasn't attached to the lid. I would prefer a much larger downtube and a large hatch on the side.
I wonder if a water bottle shaped storage box would work well for your needs. Im a fan of on-frame storage. I rarely have to get in there for a tube or plugs, but when i do, they're waiting for me. A lot of nike companies like Santa cruz are making massive downtubes so you cant tell which boje is an bike and which isn't .
I want to be able to carry a tube, pump, co2, multi-tool, tire levers, wallet, keys, snack, small cable lock, light jacket.
@@marksandoval5361 maybe a trailer then. ;) just kidding.
The stock stem is very much unappealing to me... But other than that, looking great.
It seems to be a common theme with hardtails that they are all becoming longer slacker and with lower bb.
Basically trail bikes are becoming more rare you are basically left with Enduro or XC, but not much in between which is a shame.
it is definitely a marketing thing because most people would feel more comfortable with a steeper head tube.
If we want an enduro bike, then it’s best to get a full suspension
I 100% agree. That's why i made the stanton Sedona, my signature bike, a solid trail bike that's fun at slower speeds. I see a huge gap in the market for great light trail bikes, where hardtails are best.
I am a big fan of slacker hta on hardtails for the steaming feel at speed(64-65) ish. That feeling of getting the bike leaned over and really get the side lugs biting and throwing dirt is exhilarating.
ach ja, warum? ich bin immer HT gefahren die letzten 20 jahre (xc geo) wenn etwas wirklich genervt hat dann der steile lenkkopfwinkel. ich fahre derzeit einen flachen lenkwinkel und sehe darin überhaupt keinen nachteil. warum sollte man sich mit einem steileren lenkkopfwinkel leichter tun - ein unsinnige behauptung.
@@hardtailparty definitely looking forward to your presentation of the Sedona, Looks like a interesting bike from the little I have seen.
you need to invoice orbea for the consultancy work you do for them
If they referenced my signature bikes, id be flattered! The more bikes that shift seat tubes forward, the better. Now if they'll just shorten the seat tubes...
They reduced the seat tube by 40mm on the size large compared to the previous model, that's already a huge improvement!
as usual - bling-bling (XT) the derailleur instead of upgrouping the shifter (SLX). Would#ve made a ton more sense other way round...
It makes me happy to see people noticing this. Maybe if enough people start noticing these things the companies will swap it around.
Agree, I don't get it it's so dumb.
@@RotormanMTB it sells more bikes. Most people look at the derailleur, not the shifter. Bike companies have been doing this for 30+ years.
I think the biggest challenge for hardtails right now is that there are so many good value full sus bikes are on sale. A lot of screaming deals.
Laufey looks like a good bike for the price but doesn't feel like good value in today's market....
I like the high stack, don't like the 440mm chainstay. To me, Orbea seems a bit confused with their geo choices. 440 CS leans more towards cross country, but then you have a 64.5 HT angle which seems slack for CC. But you can't always go by numbers, looking forward to what your testing reveals.
Idk man 440 chainstay is simply more stable and less playful, not really necessarily cross country. Pairing longer chainstays with a taller stack is a way to balance the weight distribution on the bike.
I feel like the stack isnt super high on this. I was surprised by the 440 cs too. I think they did that because it puts more weight on the front tire. My theory is that 64* hta bikes sell better than 65, because people want to be hardcore, but a slacker hta has less weight on the front tire. To shift the weight back to the front tire, they lengthen the rear. I have a feeling this bike is going to want fast speeds and wide open trails
Bike companies love and hate you. You test a bike and the company comes back with well guys time for a new model thanks to hardtailparty. But you and others are pushing companies to make amazing bikes not just good bikes. Thanks for what you are doing.
@@hardtailparty und " ich habe das gefühl " das du lieber herumnörgeln wirst, anstatt dir die mühe zu machen einfach andere reifen aufzuziehen, damit du dann wieder behaupten kannst das es träge ist, viel kraftaufwand braucht um das vorderrad hoch zu bekommen, so wie du es beim vorgängermodell auch gemacht hast. ein simpler reifentausch und das ganze gejammere wäre nicht nötig gewesen (ich fahr mittlerweile eines dieser "trägen bikes" von dem du behauptet hast, das du hast keine ahnung woran es liegt. es lag an den reifen, an sonst gar nichts. mal sehen ob du nachher beim test eine zweite runde machst und die unnötigen maxxis in die ecke schmeisst. (eine idiotische aktion von orbea die reifen zu verwenden)
I used to think 440 CS meant a bike can’t be snappy and playful but i was wrong. You just end up feeling more balanced like the comment above says. You’ll be able to pop ur manuals and stay in them longer
I totally disagree with seat tube shortening.. I have long legs and if too much seat post is showing it is too flexible and does not transfer power well when seated.
Good input. What length dropper do you run? How tall are you and what seat tube length do you prefer?
I agree with the full seat tube use but also hope they will consider adding bolts that are blocked from going through and through and still have a short depth for mounting tool kits or something light. BTW, I have a 200mm dropper on my Banshee Paradox V3(I got this way back in the day due to your reviews Steve and I love it and the flexy frame - hope you are doing well and getting enough exercise btw)
. and I do wish the dropper was lower in the frame (currently at about 3" from being slammed) but I still need the height vs the drop. There is a balance of how much the seat gets in the way vs not being able to sit when you need to rest or push down for traction while sitting. I got the Specialized Power seats because of the short nose and fit. This Orbea Laufy with the steepness really amazes me and makes me wonder if the seat is going to be TOO far forward for the longer lighter climbs. It also means you have to slam it to keep it out of the knees way when turning or moving around in the center.
one more thing for reference, I'm 6' and thick thighs, size L Paradox. that's all... I hope. Best reviews .... ever.
Ha, but you could run a Oneup V3 dropper and adjust it as needed 😎
Yes that would be a fix, but since im reviewing this bike, I have to mention it
I believe that a 36 or mazybe a Z1 would suit better the raw nature of the bike. A 34 is way better for light trail scenarios.
I just kove that Orbea design.
Mean while Lauf is desperately trying to build a new bike they can name some cutsy version of Orbea. Some options under consideration thus far; 'OurBae', Orbly', and 'dam it thats out company name stop it'. Admittedly that last one is a bit of a mouthful, ,theyre still white boarding it.
Oh man, naming a product, especially a bike, is so much work. The struggle is real.
Id love to experiment with a few of lauf's forks. Gen 1 of this bike was named the loki, but marvel got mad at orbea for using that name, so they changed it to Loki's father, laufey. Little did they know marvel was going to use Laufey too...
Marvel, do they think they are kings of the world? what a joke... These names came from a mythology almost 1000 years ago...
@@MightyFireL lets keep it lite i was just trying to be humorous
I DIG it, thanks for the Video Steve. 🙏🏾🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾🫡