I bought the STRONGEST and LIGHTEST drag truck suspension

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  • čas přidán 14. 12. 2022
  • I bought the best, strongest, and lightest 4x4 drag suspension for the front of UglyTruck! The 2wd to 4wd frame swap is about to kick off, since I am converting my 2wd Silverado drag truck into a 4x4 turbo big block monster. A good front suspension is key to making this 5,000 lb. beast launch in a hurry, but it has to be strong and lightweight. The entire stock front suspension from this early model truck weights over 170 pounds which includes the torsion bars, crossmember, spindles, and the upper and lower control arms. There is plenty of weight we can shave out, and with help from Wicked Fabrications and Viking Performance, we can shave close to 100 lbs off the front of our 4wd drag truck.
    Watch the Atomic Fab coilover install on the COPO truck, great for a street truck: • Coilovers for the Supe...
    check out Wicked Fabrications for the light weight spindle and control arm kit: / wickedfab8327525434
    Zona Motorsports Alignment Plates: www.zonamotorsports.com/produ...
    Viking Performance Coilovers: www.vi-king.com/
    Weezel Squeeze Aerosol anti-seize www.weezelindustries.com/prod...
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Komentáře • 158

  • @TyNeePen15
    @TyNeePen15 Před rokem +83

    I own the fastest 1970 Cougar on jackstands that belongs to me.

    • @killermoney6865
      @killermoney6865 Před rokem +1

      I don't think you do HOMER

    • @Modified1
      @Modified1 Před rokem +1

      Hell yeah man I'll race you in my 1970 cutlass on Jack stands!!

    • @blixxy1320
      @blixxy1320 Před rokem +2

      @@TrailTime. I own the fastest stock windshield suzuki esteem

    • @Decrapitate
      @Decrapitate Před rokem +1

      Niiiice

    • @TyNeePen15
      @TyNeePen15 Před rokem

      @@Modified1 Bonus points if the rear end is out on yours like mine. Been out about 5 years but I'm slowly getting her back together. I'm hoping spring/summer 2023 I'll be driving her. First in 6 years by then.

  • @teaguegearhart9851
    @teaguegearhart9851 Před rokem +11

    Things don’t happen without goals. Your work ethic is key. Thanks for giving us insight in what a great build really requires. Great example. Creativity, planning, hard work and lots of guts. 😊

  • @jaredhuang2225
    @jaredhuang2225 Před rokem +5

    Don't shoot the messenger, but would it have been easier to bring the scale to your basement instead of the old suspension stuff up to the garage?

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem +1

      lol... if I would've stopped to think for 2 minutes I probably could have come up with this to save some time

  • @Bynx_McFyden
    @Bynx_McFyden Před rokem +2

    get well soon LT, cant wait to see this build come together,

  • @LoveCarolina86
    @LoveCarolina86 Před rokem

    Someone needs to sponsor this guy! Love the vids man.

  • @hunterracer144
    @hunterracer144 Před rokem

    Love the progress!! Can't wait for next video

  • @Mr688895
    @Mr688895 Před rokem +1

    Glad your surgery went well. Looking forward to the latest build.

  • @joshuaelizabethfoster6276

    Nice call on the 7 notch alignment cam swivel lockers, there are 5 hole ones as well but they have fewer degrees to hit crosscam with. I have them installed with the kryptonite Nordstrom cam swivels on the inside with a lock bolt on the "adjustment cam". I leave the pins in the lock side cam where the nut goes on the bolt and I leave them swinging off the pin with the control arm nut hand tight then loosly snug the bolt (where stock pin was swapped) on swiveling adjustment cam find crosscam and then pull the lock cam to the tightest dot slip it over and torque bolts. Keeping the stock style fine tune inner cam swivel with a lock bolt gives a better alignment and a set of backup lock cams as one only uses half of them in this way.

  • @GoodForYou4504
    @GoodForYou4504 Před rokem +2

    Great point that more wheels turning is more strain and more work. Do it right and launch is no contest but keep up with it! 👍

  • @Modified1
    @Modified1 Před rokem +1

    Man this one is gonna be the one!! Suspension set up opposite of off road. Loose in the front, tight in the rear. Beings it's awd the front tires need to stay in touch with the ground. I wouldn't limit the travel either.

  • @Techangler65
    @Techangler65 Před rokem

    Let the fun begin LT full speed ahead

  • @EdwinsGarage
    @EdwinsGarage Před rokem +1

    Hoping for a speedy recovery Lawrence💪🏽

  • @joshoreo6674
    @joshoreo6674 Před rokem +3

    I swear, those have got to be the best ball joints I've ever used. Ill never use anything else and they're definitely worth their weight in gold 👌 They make some pretty beefy tierod ends too.

  • @johnwindle6877
    @johnwindle6877 Před rokem

    Can't wait for more updates

  • @hanshaw1974
    @hanshaw1974 Před rokem +1

    I use TRI flow for my aluminum UTV shocks. It works great.
    As for the nose issue, I did it. Not a fun surgery.

  • @yoderboys1
    @yoderboys1 Před rokem +1

    I bought some tubular control arms and some QA1 adjustable coilovers for my 1975 firebird and it is a good bit lighter than stock so I think you made a good choice 👍

  • @ER-ru6qp
    @ER-ru6qp Před rokem

    Sick

  • @clayvanhornii4643
    @clayvanhornii4643 Před rokem

    LT, you did the tie rod bend. Watch the episode of MT you did with the little red shortbed Chevy. When you launched it with boost brake, the front tires both wobbled inward.

  • @kiltedsaint
    @kiltedsaint Před rokem

    We have the same except the big block. Building new front suspension right now. R&d has been fun.

  • @2000S10V6
    @2000S10V6 Před rokem +10

    The amazing builds you are capable of in this tiny garage is insane! I hope you get a shop soon.

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem +2

      thanks, and I hope so also! I feel like I outgrew this space as soon as we moved in

    • @2000S10V6
      @2000S10V6 Před rokem +1

      @@LawrenceTolman I'd give anything for a garage of any size. I do all my work in my carport or in the dirt in my backyard.

  • @bladenrexroth2555
    @bladenrexroth2555 Před rokem +1

    Larry JR "Mom! Dad is in the garage spending money again!"

  • @joethepirate1
    @joethepirate1 Před rokem

    Glad you’re on the mend LT. 👊🏻

  • @ToddHLHG
    @ToddHLHG Před rokem

    I really enjoy your videos...Very informative. I have lots of family in Utah...I know the area well.

  • @torind2000
    @torind2000 Před rokem +1

    i care man, hope you feel better soon, Cant wait for the build to start!

  • @derekwilson9215
    @derekwilson9215 Před rokem

    Yes sir I have aluminum spindles on my 14 silverado new body!!!! Also has the 6.2 tuned by lew lol
    Love your stuff keep it up

  • @TrailTime.
    @TrailTime. Před rokem +2

    Sleeper…. Let’s do a full exhaust!!!

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      I think it is gonna go back to full exhaust actually... I have a feeling the 535 is gonna be a bit louder than the 8.1

    • @jamesdowell9676
      @jamesdowell9676 Před rokem

      @@LawrenceTolman electric cut outs best of both worlds...lol

  • @scrappyjackalope9558
    @scrappyjackalope9558 Před rokem +2

    Those are aluminum knuckles that the spindles bolt too. Liking the build so far. Do you have any ideas for aftermarket axles for the front? What are you going to do for a rear axle?

  • @kalebcole4038
    @kalebcole4038 Před rokem

    Wicked fab makes a weld on extended spring bucket

  • @champspec
    @champspec Před rokem

    Do you have to run a certain diameter wheel to fit those spindles?
    Other things to consider is limit straps to control the front end from lifting. Whenever you see the bigger trucks struggle with buckling tires off the line is due to not maintaining the TR angles to keep the toe in check.

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      Pretty sure these spindles will let you run a 16” wheel, but my front brakes need a 17” minimum pretty sure. But I wanted to run 17x10 in all four corners

  • @gamachesgarage3563
    @gamachesgarage3563 Před rokem +5

    Hey LT, I’ve been watching you since POWERNATION and I just want to say watching you come out of your shell and show off your personality has been awesome

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      I appreciate that! youtube is a different animal, and its taking a long time to unlearn some of the presenting styles from the last show

    • @gamachesgarage3563
      @gamachesgarage3563 Před rokem

      @@LawrenceTolmankeep building cool things and I think you’ll be fine lol

  • @Scandalous3pedals
    @Scandalous3pedals Před rokem

    Heal fast bud. I may need that same surgery. I'm withina year of finally driving my turbo drag silverado.

  • @lsquest263
    @lsquest263 Před rokem

    "Port & Polish." lmao

  • @KevinWilsonSBC
    @KevinWilsonSBC Před rokem

    This is exciting!! If I can help you in any way just shout!! I actually did a video on the Viking shocks and discussed the valving letters on the shocks. Go fast, go straight! Be SAFE!

  • @t.l.robinson2162
    @t.l.robinson2162 Před rokem

    "A port & polish". Lol.

  • @nickrpg3881
    @nickrpg3881 Před rokem

    Could do heim joint tie rods, and 1.5 tubing or whatever size u want

  • @chadausburn4832
    @chadausburn4832 Před rokem

    LOL, port and polish... I like where this build is going.

  • @jeremymcclanahan2389
    @jeremymcclanahan2389 Před rokem

    I care about your sinus issues...glad you are able to get treatment....and love the truck too

  • @talalhz9137
    @talalhz9137 Před rokem +2

    Skeleton on the bench press... hahaha
    ✔💯🏎👨‍🔧⭐👍🏻

  • @JoseSanchez-bg5hf
    @JoseSanchez-bg5hf Před rokem

    Does does steering knuckles work on the 2004 Silverado oem control arms

  • @DM-qp7do
    @DM-qp7do Před rokem

    LT got his nose ported and polished but still has a stock bottom end 🇺🇲

  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem

    I Would paint those Spindles with a rock chip resistant paint, probably etch and alodine them before painting.

  • @VATION3RD
    @VATION3RD Před rokem +1

    Mitchell Stapleton #Stapleton42 is trying to break into 8 second 1/4 mile class with his twin turbo LSX 427 all-wheel drive Cadillac Escalade #LSXcalade

  • @bobqzzi
    @bobqzzi Před rokem

    This is a great build.
    Some hard earned advice: do not, under any circumstances, use polyurethane suspension bushings if you want any sort of consistent suspension action/launches. They are wholly unsuited as a suspension bushing material under any circumstances, let alone an 8 second race truck. You are far better off with stock rubber, delrin, or a spherical bearing.

  • @jberkhimer
    @jberkhimer Před rokem

    Wicked Fab doesn't list prices on their FB page, so I wonder just how much they're overcharging for control arms and oem aluminum spindles.

  • @Compactor_08
    @Compactor_08 Před rokem

    Do you need to coat the frame before building. I know Utah salt their roads

  • @NVzla
    @NVzla Před rokem +1

    How many CFMs did you pick up on that port and polish?

  • @matthewpalacio3198
    @matthewpalacio3198 Před rokem

    What the part numbers for the spindle

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee215 Před rokem

    Aye power ain't nothing if you can't get it to the ground....Chasis and suspension is where it starts for that 🤾‍♂️

  • @bobbymulwee7641
    @bobbymulwee7641 Před rokem

    So what if the front diff can't handle the power? I know the IFS housings break in half with 35's and factory torque from a 5.7

  • @RAWRMotorsports
    @RAWRMotorsports Před rokem

    Will those front spindles fit a
    02 escalade ?

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      with the wicked fab kit they will, the 02 escalade has the same type of front suspension as a 4x4 truck

  • @reijik777
    @reijik777 Před rokem

    and that answers what you were going with torsion bar from kryptonite or yesterday

  • @charlieheath4345
    @charlieheath4345 Před rokem +1

    He said "port & polish" 🤣🤣🤣 LMFAO

    • @danielbremner7805
      @danielbremner7805 Před rokem

      Does that mean that people that use a cpap machine have better performance than "naturally aspirated" breathers?

  • @BucketList22
    @BucketList22 Před rokem

    I bet if you tell suppliers that these parts are going on the fastest truck in your driveway, they will throw a bunch of free parts your way. 😁 But seriously you should check out OnDGas, lots of fast 4wd trucks.

  • @anomamos9095
    @anomamos9095 Před rokem

    Changing to lighter control arms and spindles will reduce the unstrung weight.
    Swapping coil overs for torsion bars adds unsprung weight.
    The question is how much lighter the lower control arm and coil over is than the stock control arm and shock? Is they’re the same or heavier then there’s no improvement in unsprung weight.
    Improvements in spring rate and damping with modern coil overs may warrant the swap.
    Looking at the weight chart and doing the math, if not for the lighter spindles the unsprung weight would only decrease by about six pounds per side.

  • @ryanroberts1104
    @ryanroberts1104 Před rokem

    Good lord! I can't believe it saves that much weight! If I put all that stuff and an aluminum LS in my 2WD I think I may have to register it as an airplane! It already weighs less than a lot of cars...

  • @buddytaylor6983
    @buddytaylor6983 Před rokem

    The method behind the madness.

  • @irondiver292
    @irondiver292 Před rokem

    #1

  • @taylor5542
    @taylor5542 Před rokem

    You should move that big block back as far as possible and chop the firewall, move the seats back. Promod shit. 🤙🏻

  • @wyattkelley5176
    @wyattkelley5176 Před rokem +1

    Definitely will want kryptonite pitman and idler arms to keep center link from turning and causing toe in on launches

  • @TandD1w
    @TandD1w Před rokem

    When I got my deviated septum repaired I got Covid in the hospital. Recovering from the surgery sucked! Sadly my septum died so it’s now perforated.

  • @bdugle1
    @bdugle1 Před rokem

    98 lbs plus old shocks, I think! I wonder if AWD is worth it, though. Modern drag suspensions use limiters on front end travel that basically transfers all weight (regardless of static weight distribution) to the rear. Obviously requires the right suspension geometry in the rear to work-but even leaf spring vehicles are successful at it. Your “COPO” truck looked really good for 60 ft times, but I’m wondering if that’s the ultimate answer. Looking forward to the build and the results, regardless!

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      I would say AWD and 4wd has its advantages but is certainly not the simplest or even the best answer. A good light weight 2wd would probably run circles around this

  • @shakenfake
    @shakenfake Před rokem +1

    LT does your scale not have a zero function? So you step on the scale zero it out and then get back on with the stuff. Would make that mental math easier lol
    Also I know all about that deviated septum. Have one too, I bet your sleep has improved incredibly though. I know mine caused sleep apnea starting at 17 years old.

  • @brianthibodeau8958
    @brianthibodeau8958 Před rokem

    Is a rack n pinion conversion possible for these 4wd GMT800 trucks?
    Very nice work! Keep it up!!!

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      for sure it is, just would require a little custom fab work

    • @brianthibodeau8958
      @brianthibodeau8958 Před rokem

      You should add a rack n pinion to the ugly truck and make a video for us 😎 There is nothing on the web about this conversion.
      Thanks!!!

    • @joshlafreniere1589
      @joshlafreniere1589 Před rokem

      @@brianthibodeau8958 I'll get in on the group buy for this kit. I was so disappointed when I bought my $500 04 Tahoe and found drag link steering and torsion bars on a 2wd. 🤢

  • @westcoast6162
    @westcoast6162 Před rokem +1

    13:45 good for a few xtra hp😁

  • @JimFlanagan4206
    @JimFlanagan4206 Před rokem

    Next time just take the scale to the basement! Unless you're looking for some exercise 😁

  • @KomotoseKomo
    @KomotoseKomo Před rokem

    saying you are on "light duty" after lifting and weighing a few hundred lbs you carried out of the basement made me laugh, hope I have half that energy after I get my sinus/nose surgery done next mth but take it easy on yourself

  • @Bruiser69b
    @Bruiser69b Před rokem

    Don't forget the added weight of the front axle

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      I was just calculating the weight loss you would get by installing these parts on a 4x4, but yea, for me I will also be gaining the weight of a transfer case, front driveshaft, front diff, and CV axles

  • @jimmycokeanhour5196
    @jimmycokeanhour5196 Před rokem

    Ever since my last broken nose healed I can't breathe right either. I might have to get that surgery if it helps

  • @TheBuiltDifferentSnorlax24
    @TheBuiltDifferentSnorlax24 Před 7 měsíci

    Lol i hope to be a 1 of 1 4x4 obs suburban with a Whipple 5.3

  • @bdorchik
    @bdorchik Před rokem

    Got a link for that anti-seize?

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      www.weezelindustries.com/product-page/weezel-sqweeze and I'll add it to the description as well

  • @parkerbethke
    @parkerbethke Před rokem +1

    Next project: LBZ swapped 1500 shorty, awd with a zf manual trans

  • @fastboyguero554
    @fastboyguero554 Před rokem

    Crawfish 🦞 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂

  • @joshuaelizabethfoster6276

    Also just as a heads up, kryptonite...I love their gear but...their service...ordered the pitman idler setup, when it came I found their "deathgrip" idler would not engage properly and actually gave my truck a "deathwobble" so bad, my 14 year old daughter asked if that was center link rattle lol! Then called thinking it looked like it wanted their big center link to engage...big mistake!!! They were only interested in selling me guess what ....their center link with that sideways inner tie rod "upgrade" which I, on the warning of actual military service personel, would never put in any vehicle. They're known to be an immobilizer, one hard impact and your done... not on my truck... I'd buy backup ones if you go that route as 6-8 weeks for a new one is b.s. and oh ya their center link won't take stock tie rod swaps so pull the whole center link until they get your replacements to you, sounds fun huh... I got and suggest their stock inner tie rods as they are MASSIVE as are the ball joints as elsewhere posted. That "upgraded" inner tie rod design was pulled in the field regularly by the military it is junk! And that "awesome lifetime warranty" means rebuy return, then if they decide, a refund. I call it the three-re. They then shipped me, on purpose I think, a stage 2 control arm with a stage 3. So be careful their stuff is great and oversized but they are not, I mean oversized maybe lolol.

  • @19815389
    @19815389 Před rokem

    Hey LT nice parts , are you going to paint the frame in your garage , or are you going to send it out to have it sand blasted then powder coated

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      I’d love to have it sent out for sandblasting and painting, but we’ll see. I may tackle it myself

    • @19815389
      @19815389 Před rokem

      @@LawrenceTolman I’ve been a automotive painter for the last 45 years I currently work for a bmw dealership let me know if you want my suggestions on how to go about it

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya Před rokem

    +\- 8.50’s in a 5000 lb brick is a challenge indeed… Fun Challenge !

  • @Valdemar-Perez-III
    @Valdemar-Perez-III Před rokem

    Bro eventually I wanna convert my 2wd into a 4wd. One day I’m gonna make it happen!!

  • @fredproctor6973
    @fredproctor6973 Před rokem +1

    Of course we care about your health, if you're not healthy, no content, no content means sad viewers. Hope all is good and you're healing well.

  • @houseofthewhitedog
    @houseofthewhitedog Před rokem

    Youd drop some time when you ditch the interior and cover the bed. Aero is important.... but you working with a barn.

  • @TheBeerBox80
    @TheBeerBox80 Před rokem

    It really doesn't make a lot of sense but I think it is a great concept.

  • @ryanschupbach679
    @ryanschupbach679 Před rokem +1

    Port and polish huh? Did you get before and after CFM readings by chance? Think you'll see any hp gains? Lol

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      I need to ask for the flow charts lol

    • @ryanschupbach679
      @ryanschupbach679 Před rokem

      @@LawrenceTolman Haha, couldn't pass that up. Love, love, love the content man! Keep it up!

  • @KamronLsx
    @KamronLsx Před rokem

    I couldn't find anyone near me that would align my truck after putting in the locking camber plates. Had to go back to factory

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem

      that sucks to hear. if need be, I'll just do it myself

  • @rolon-ew5kl
    @rolon-ew5kl Před rokem +1

    Once he finish the ugly truck take it on hoonigans channel and drag race it on a this vs that video

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem +1

      I would love to!

    • @rolon-ew5kl
      @rolon-ew5kl Před rokem

      Try contacting them they probably would be interested to see what the truck can do. They raced trucks on there before

  • @foechoppa22
    @foechoppa22 Před rokem

    Make it awd

  • @robertfake6496
    @robertfake6496 Před rokem

    You forgot the weight of the stock shocks. So that would put you over 100lbs saved.

  • @Adrianzx
    @Adrianzx Před rokem

    Do you like building things that don't make sense like thinking or real drive is going to give you double the traction you know for that to be true you'd have to totally ignore weight shift

    • @danielbremner7805
      @danielbremner7805 Před rokem

      I don't know the exact numbers, but with most of the weight already over the the front axle he probably isn't as far from right saying double the traction. If you get half the weight to shift to the rear axle, it certainly isn't there to start...

  • @Mattmazz77
    @Mattmazz77 Před rokem

    I had that surgery 2 times and it SUCKS!!!!!

  • @alexdoerr2550
    @alexdoerr2550 Před rokem

    I own the fastest v6 05 premium mustang automatic with a black fender and hood that belongs to me 😂

  • @dalehall2993
    @dalehall2993 Před rokem +1

    Kryptonite suspension parts are BEEFY!!!

  • @hipolitosoto5183
    @hipolitosoto5183 Před rokem

    Sorry man I already beat you to it but mine's a Z71 off-road package but still have 5.3

  • @jeramystephens74
    @jeramystephens74 Před rokem

    Didn't @stapleton42_ make way more horsepower and run slower than what your shooting for? Not saying that it's impossible. Just curious what the difference between the two will be.

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem +1

      I don't know what ET he ran, but pretty sure his escalade was 6,000lbs + where I Am shooting for a target race weight of 5,000lbs. weight can make a huge difference

    • @jeramystephens74
      @jeramystephens74 Před rokem +1

      @@LawrenceTolman that makes more sense. I didn't realize the weight was that different. Pretty sure he ran 8.90s before he hurt the previous motor. I don't think he has any videos of the current set up.

  • @Hammerback972
    @Hammerback972 Před rokem

    Don’t over-do it LT. And of course we “care about that”! Gotta take care of LT first and foremost. We won’t have videos to watch if ur down and out LT!

  • @lunkydog
    @lunkydog Před rokem +1

    You didn't count the weight of the stock shocks.

    • @LawrenceTolman
      @LawrenceTolman  Před rokem +1

      Ahh, good point. We’ll have to add another couple of pounds on the stock side

  • @Sparkystacoma
    @Sparkystacoma Před rokem

    I have a deviated septum that needs a port job. So don't assume no one would be interested

  • @UcantBeSerious03
    @UcantBeSerious03 Před rokem

    9:39 Do you even lift bro?

  • @1960Murf
    @1960Murf Před rokem

    You are WRONG about the sinus surgery. At least one viewer is interested. I actually need the surgery but everyone I have talked to tells me the surgery is horrible. Also have heard many say it didn’t help them much. Keep us posted please.

  • @harmanpabla7315
    @harmanpabla7315 Před rokem +1

    Your health matters LT.. because without you healthy we wouldn't have your channel

  • @johnshaver5693
    @johnshaver5693 Před rokem

    Port and polish huh.... somebody's getting protested next time for illegal head modifications...

  • @MendicantBias1
    @MendicantBias1 Před rokem

    12 inch 600 pounds coils?! Those things maybe weigh 10 pounds. Come on!

  • @ronnieheath6840
    @ronnieheath6840 Před rokem

    Hey we care about your nose lol

  • @kleenhall6885
    @kleenhall6885 Před rokem

    Zona is wack. They copy other work and put their name on it His old company was dirty b. All his old customer sold their trucks cause he ruined them… now zona is parts he buys from diy offroad and the. Sells as his. Do not promote scammers