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Lol - so it is disrespectful to politely disagree with someone and have a friendly conversation with someone?

@@AncientPresence "Thirsty One You Are." No, i'm just saying that you obviously want to be adored?

Thank you so much for the support!

That’s what I would consider “normal,” but unfortunately in today’s weird internet world that has become increasingly rare. Chris shared this podcast from Jerm Warfare and Triggernomety, I totally resonated with many of their points. I think you enjoy it too 😊 jermwarfare.com/conversations/comedy-and-woke-culture

Chris mentioned “cleaning up the internet,” I think conversations like this can help contribute to that as a good example 🙏

You have to hand it to Chris sticking to the same story for 30 years. If these boxes are sooooo incredibly precise in his eyes he must have a problem with thousands and thousands of stone Creations throughout history

​@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks in his eyes, they are out of sight and definitely out of mind.

Good comment. People like Chris Dunn and Ben V Kerkwik do not consider ANY opposing views to their own. Dunn writes books based upon his own grift, and Ben just makes CZcams money and does conferences etc. they both have vested interests (monetary) and they have worked out that there are many people out there who are only too willing to follow their every word with gasps, and they simply will not risk losing a single person by having to have a real conversation they simply cannot win.

Well, they don't *understand* what proper research and techniques are. They are working with what they know from doing book reports in high school or going to college and studying in a professional program to get out as fast as possible and go to work. Similarly, there is no understanding of what an argument is (cue the old Monty Python skit) and how to present and confirm or deny claims in a systematic process. As much as I could watch of Flint Dibble and Hancock on Gweneth Rogan's Outrage and Pseudoscience Podcast, when they discuss "Clovis first" Hancock's claim that nobody was allowed to even question it and Dibble said he wasn't taught that when he was in school 20 years ago, doesn't teach it, and that *isn't taught* (and I'll add - a minute in Google Scholar shows up articles in respected journals challenging the premise back at least to 1970. Hancock is flat out WRONG and has nothing to support his claim and how does he respond? By ignoring what Dibble said and throwing unsupported accusations of coverup and tyrannical control in the discipline. And Gweneth is to dumb and uneducated to realize this is not how educated, adult, argumentation happens so Hancock just babbles on about a cover up he has no evidence for.

​@@TheGreatest1974Ben's censorship of opposing data and viewpoints is what makes him suspect and undermines any potential credibility.

​@@JH-pt6ihit ain't easy being a martyr these days with Hancockamame ideas.

Either way, both words are supporting evidence that the Dynastic Egyptians did indeed make the Serapeum.

completely agree. Chris has fooled many with pictures of his little machinists square. I'm just saying if the word has 2 meanings, you would need to show how dedicated fits in the second sentence.

Not research. Hypothetical opinion not based on actual evidence and gross misinterpretation of data.

What research? He's only grifting and pushing pseudo-science. He even said on camera that Coral Castle was built using levitation...this guy would say anything for money.

So you won't reply to this comment then huh?

CZcams doesn't promote our longer videos on this channel, it ends up hurting our algorithms when we post 2 hour videos that most people don't watch. So the "clips" help our main channel and the die hards who want the full podcast can just make one extra click to hear the whole thing.

​@@AncientPresenceI have the bell on and I didn't see this upload. I actually went to your channel to check as well.

Thanks for the love Anyextee! Sorry to hear about the falling out between you and Chris. One would hope that you and him doing a tour together would lead to more rigorous scientific investigation, instead of a severing of a friendship. If we're really seeking "the truth," I hope we can all be friends together in the process alongside each other, even is we disagree on major aspects. Maybe it can be rectified over time? Chris shared this podcast with us and I agree with very much of what these guys are speaking about on a philosophical level of not "othering" people as our "enemies." There's enough division in this world and as Chris said during our podcast, we gotta clean up the internet. I'd love to drop in with you some time and share about our journeys. jermwarfare.com/conversations/comedy-and-woke-culture

Grifters be grifting.

Did Dunn scam you out of money or something? I don't know man, I kinda see this as a trend where "hippy/new age" looking people are now doing the opposite of what would be expected and are going with the "mainstream" view Perhaps is related to the more general trend where things that were issues for the Left 30 years ago are now considered off limits and r*c*st Like even around 2006 the left was into 911 theories but now they aren't because they don't want to be called r*c*st Even JfK stuff. It's all because of Trump. In 2024 if a person is into Con Theories that means they are N*z*s So there's that whole thing where these people are scared to be associated with "white nationalists" like Hancock Or it could be that they've always just been trend followers. 30 years ago it was cool to be a new ager and into Atlantis but now "new ager" = white nationalist And especially since CZcams is so strict now, people can't get views with the new age stuff as easily Edit: it's like with this video I totally got the vibe that Dunn felt misled. He looked at you guys and was like, "cool, these guys are hippies. They are on my side"

@@AncientPresence Thanks for sharing this link. I’ll check it out. For the sake of clarity, it wasn't the tour itself or touring together that ended our relationship; we had a great time and stayed friends for several years after. I genuinely enjoyed his humor and company, and Chris even praised my tour as the best organized and most fun he'd ever experienced on a tour of Egypt. And he’s toured for decades so that was deeply meaningful for me to hear that from him. He also said touring with me was immensely valuable in his endorsement for my book. However, insights I gained during and after the tour led me to ask questions, which ultimately caused him to sever our friendship. I have always championed the idea of coexisting with opposing opinions. I genuinely have love and respect for my mentor, John Anthony West, though I don’t agree with his conclusion on Sphinx dating. Though I made best efforts to keep an open mind, I had a hard time believing in Chris Dunn’s theory from the start. However, I could find some value from his work but ultimately I wasn’t on board with his theory even when we toured together, and he was aware of the fact I did not subscribe to it. He sees saw pits where I see boat pits. He believes the Rameses statue in the Cairo Museum with its nemes headdress is the product of someone other than the dynastic Egyptians whereas to me, it’s the accomplishment of the dynastic Egyptians. The list goes on…but we should be able to co-exist, be friends, appreciate humor and tour together. Our tour group was divided, some were hardcore techies and believed in Chris’s Lost Tech theory, whereas others were esotericists or general historians and had a hard time reconciling some of his ideas. For example, we had a boatman explain why the boat pits were far more likely to be boat pits than giant saw pits and yet we all got along great and had an incredible time. Adults should be able to disagree and maintain relationships. However, I’ve noticed that many alternative historians and authors may pretend to adopt this philosophy, but often demonstrate the opposite by blocking or cutting ties with those who choose to oppose or challenge tbeir ideas Chris Dunn may speak publicly about not "othering" or making "enemies," and share links to podcast with you expensing that sentiment, yet in conversation we had he criticized me for watching and supporting CZcamsrs with opposing ideas, specifically “Ancient Presence, Sacred Geometry Decoded and Science Against Myth” proclaiming them as his "enemies." This type of inconsistency between his public and private sentiments makes it difficult for me to trust and respect him. If Christopher Dunn genuinely aligns with the podcast, then why did he refer to the aforementioned CZcamsrs as his “enemies” and question me for taking up interest and supporting these specific CZcams channels? This sort of inconsistency is - in part - is why I have come to not trust Chris Dunn in my experience. “I have more respect for a man who lets me know where he stands, even if he's wrong, than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil.” - Malcolm X Regarding dropping in sometime and sharing our journeys - anytime. The work you two are doing resonates and I’m always happy to connect.

We don't think they're charlatans. They truly believe in what they're teaching. We want to have healthy conversations with people we disagree with and labeling others as enemies or frauds doesn't help 👍

@@AncientPresence You might as well interview Flat Earthers and YECs. {:o:O:}

What’s click bait about this? Seems the trend for Hancock supporters to get revved up that people address the direct claims. Easily dismissed as click bait so you can avoid content.

My friend, Hancock and Randy Randal… ARE click bait !

@@SacredGeometryDecoded agreed. It's not the "false advertising" type clickbait. And I understand that they gotta do what they gotta do. It's a good way to get clicks, it worked on me

Dude we gotta pay the bills, a little clicky title doesn't do any harm 🤙 We're trying to attract more views in a respectful and honest way that still helps trigger the algorithm to share our content to a wider audience. Let's be real, there are tons of people doing it way worse than us.

​@@AncientPresence for sure, it's like the World of Antiquity guy. I'm sure it pains him that he gets exponentially more views if he mentions Carlson, Hancock, or UnchartedX in the title. But he's gotta make a living But his are bad. Stuff like "Idiot Thinks a Vase Proves Aliens built the Pyramids" and he will show a pic of Ben

Agreed, Very crude.

The inscriptions they discuss are very high quality. The lost tech types only show the box in niche 17. Not the other quality carvings though.

Watch our 3 part Serapeum series, we discuss all of that in detail. No mystery there, just mountains of evidence proving it was the Dynastic Egyptians and basically no evidence proving anything that would require a lost civilization.

@@AncientPresence cool cool I will

WELL SAID !

25 bulls! we gotta get 25 of them guys! only then everyone gets paid! Ridiculous. Absurd. Insane.

I wonder how far Gary lives from a medieval cathedral? Can't believe those fools built such time consuming giant stone things for no purpose!

They do when their prized bulls produce the work oxen that built Egypt. Bulls were worshipped as dieties.

Do you know what the historians fallacy is? Pretty much what you're doing. Just because you don't see the motivation doesn't mean they didn't have any. Also, not all of the boxes and artifacts discovered in the Serapeum have what you call "chicken scratch" on them. I take it you didn't watch their documentary lol...

Thanks for tuning in, it's always nice to see your name pooping up in the comments section 😃

Might want to try reading actual research papers instead of being the sheep of the grifters.

@@BALES5000 It's worth bearing in mind that there were papers (amongst other similar analogues) that said the world was flat, or 6000 years old and these 'facts' were 'researched' as well. Research papers have represented established facts in archaeology all over the place that were wrong. They'll slyly quip in with "theories update with new evidence" all smugly. Oh indeed they do. But often they linger for decades despite an overwhelming volume of evidence to the contrary. Just look at the Americas.

@@BALES5000 It's worth bearing in mind that there were papers (amongst other similar analogues) that said the world was flat, or 6000 years old and these 'facts' were 'researched' as well. Research papers have represented established facts in archaeology all over the place that were wrong. They'll slyly quip in with "theories update with new evidence" oh indeed they do. But often they linger for decades despite an overwhelming volume of evidence to the contrary. Just look at the Americas.

Maybe that's the problem, they laughed their heads off l. ?

What they express matches the archaeology though. We don’t see any 39,000 year old civilization there. In fact, the pre dynastic archaeology basically has the same level of technology for over 70,000 years with a gradual build up to dynastic Egypt starting a few thousand years before. They are probably basing it on that. If writing and archaeology match, not much room for debate. If writing and archaeology don’t match, there’s room for debate but what’s actually shown in the ground counts far far more.

Really don't know what you're talking about here. Wholly confused. 70,000 years ago, we didn't have reigns of a single king into 1000s of years precise to the date of end of his reign. The predynastic period as it goes is described not just once in abydos but the second time in the turin kings list papyrus. Precisely to 36k bc and 39k to date. Writing and archeology do not match. Archeology dismisses the Abydos temple inscriptions as quite literally, non-existent or rather myth. Whats shown above ground is what counts, advanced stone manufacturing all over Egypt and Peru, that sticks and stones of the dynastic period could not achieve. Cute that you got the heart from the channel. That's all they could come up with. A heart. Milo , Casey, you got anything to say to my comment or just hearting nonsensical replies will do?

@@Kitties-of-Doom they dismiss them as myth because we have dated remains throughout that entire time and nothing showing what you would call civilization shows up. Technology in Egypt stays basically the same for 70k years. All the way up into the predynastic, where you start to see gradual changes into what later became the dynastic. This isn’t an opinion. This is what we get from the ground. 39,000 years ago we see nothing but nomadic hunter gatherers in the area. Besides that, the stuff above ground you are talking about has been shown it can only be so old by dating organic matter or human disturbed material under it. Peru for example. They have dug underneath and found earlier settlements in structures the alternative tries to say is 10k years old. Yet what’s under them is only 1000 years old. Obviously, that doesn’t work. Baalbek is another great example of this. Besides this, people have demonstrated for decades how to work with granite with primitive methods. You can find many CZcams channels with people doing this themselves at home. There are better channels with actual production going into it. Or you can read these expirements as they were written down decades ago. There isn’t any need for high tech stuff that doesn’t exist and allegedly left zero trace anywhere.

@@Eye_of_Horus save it, been in the community for 6 years. Seen it all. There is no Egyptian civilization in 70k." technology in Egypt stays basically the same for 70k years. "-what in gods name are you talking about. 5 k for dynastic period and 30K for their actual recorded history. All your "dating" mumbo jumbo is garbage. The advanced stone manufacturing sits in stone. Don' t need dating , just engineers and stone manufacturers/

@@Kitties-of-Doom not sure where you are misunderstanding. Dynastic Egypts start is roughly 5,000 years ago yes. There was a few thousand years before this often referred to as “predynastic”. Before that, there’s over 100,000 years of evidence of hunter gatherers in the area, with their hunting implements staying basically the same for over 70k of it. 30k, 20k, even 10k years ago you only see hunter gatherers with stone projectiles. So where is the 30k year old dynasty?

If you found an unknown superior device/ piece of equipment in the jungle. You don't need why, how and who. All you need to do is stand in awe of the device/ equipment and that's it. And as you stand in awe, and know that you have no idea how, why or who, you can begin to accept that all you know is that you don't know, and that you're inferior to the maker. That should be enough. Being in stone and construction for 20 years, I don't need the who, how and why. Honestly. I'm not tossing and turning in bed at night thinking about Egypt and Peru, I just know that there are beings and tech outside of my range. Only in my humility and understanding of the unknown, i can begin to shoot the shit about who, how and why. That's when the fun begins. Too many idiots are out there in the know on this subject.

@@Kitties-of-Doom "Honestly. I'm not tossing and turning in bed at night thinking about Egypt and Peru, I just know that there are beings and tech outside of my range" The cultic Abydos kings list and LAHT helps you relax in the sheets and dream of genie 😴😴

@@RomanCatsmun the classic comedian, that cannot perceive the advanced stonework in Peru and Egypt because of lack of experience in stonework.

@@Kitties-of-Doom We know you are a LAHT apologist. I see you have shared a reaction video "Ancient Presence ignoring Evidence of Ancient High Technology" a few months ago. I look forward to hearing your open minded and scientific approach in this piece.

What about what Dunn says today? In private messages, his statements don't match what he tells the public. When we were still friends, I questioned certain aspects of his work, and he would grow very uncomfortable, often skirting around providing answers. He wasn't happy that I could coexist with opposing opinions or that I watched videos by AP, Sacred Geometry Decoded, and Science Against Myth, referring to all these channels as his "enemies." He literally unfriended me on Facebook and cut ties over this. All I wanted was to look at the big picture and study what everyone has to say without bias. I just can’t trust that sort of inconsistency or odd behavior. I’m not here to be part of anyone’s good ol’ boys club. I’m an independent researcher interested in getting closer to objective truth and helping to raise consciousness. I’ve lost all respect for Dunn and many other alternative authors. It's a game for some of these people, and that's just super wack to me.

Sure bud, ignore all of the 90 minutes of evidence in a whole 3 part series, just because you don’t want to challenge your preconceived ideas.

🤦‍♂️ so aliens built it? You know - there are plenty examples of ancient and modern people shaping granite with primitive tools right? The great pyramid is mostly limestone as well.

Thank you for the sweet comment - glad you enjoyed the video! We are available for hire to document your tours - email us if you wanna follow that thread 🧵 AncientPresenceVideo@gmail.com

@@AncientPresence Hi. I can't offer you a free tour, but I can offer you a discount if you would like to join one. Also watched your interview about the Sphinx (great job, really interesting). I have been there when the Sphinx enclosure was full of water. All the rain that falls on the "plateau" runs right down and into the Sphinx, like the drain in a sink. It is happening more and more frequently. They have been pumping the water out, but it is raining more often now.