PODCAST #2: SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded - Lost High Technology Skepticism, Engineering & Metrology
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- In podcast episode 2, we spoke with Alan from the Sacred Geometry Decoded CZcams channel & had a fantastic conversation about the incredible accomplishments of ancient cultures. We discuss the profound mathematics encoded in architecture; the transport & lifting of megalithic stones worldwide; ancient units of measure regarding distance, geometry, time & the shape of our planet; the possibility of a lost civilization in times of prehistory & whether ancient people could’ve possessed some form of high technology. This is definitely a conversation you don’t want to miss. Thank you so much for watching! Enjoy the podcast!
Check out Alan’s CZcams Channel, SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded!
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0:00 Introduction
6:26 Atlantis? Origins of civilizations
18:11 Controversial theories, follow the evidence
27:03 Disinformation, polarization, nuance
32:30 Serapeum, Mariette lowered a box!
35:14 Criticizing mainstream experiments
38:52 Tube drill core #7, cutting granite
46:53 Stone masterpieces, ancient masonry techniques
56:16 Baalbek, moving megaliths, cranes
1:10:36 Great Pyramid mathematics, pi, phi, longitude
1:19:18 Origins of the meter, the cubit , metrology, geodesy
1:29:57 Longitude, time keeping, maritime navigation
1:35:11 Extraordinary claims w/ simple explanations
1:43:28 Speed of light latitude - Great Pyramid geometry
1:46:20 Embodying nature’s design principles
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Downloadable PDF of Auguste Mariette’s “The Serapeum Of Memphis” (translated into English by Milo using Google Translate). Search "rollers" and then read the following pages to read about Mariette lowering the box into its chamber.
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SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded VIDEOS:
"Experiments in Granite & Primitive Technologies"
• Experiments in Granite...
"Sacred Geometry DIY"
• Sacred Geometry DIY
"Pendulum, Metre, Cubits, Feet & the Pyramids"
• Pendulum, Metre, Cubit...
"Great Pyramid K2019 Part 1: Sophistry & Well Poisoning"
• Great Pyramid K2019 Pa...
Scott Onstott - Sacred Geometry Academy
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Secrets In Plain Sight Documentary
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Scientists Against Myths
“Out-of-place artifact: 100 years of deception | Fake science spotlight"
• Out-of-place artifact:...
MKS _ Marble Granite Stone Processing Plants
“Gangsaw for Marble, 80 Blades Gang Saw for Marble, Marble Gangsaw, Telar Para Corte de Marmol”
• Gangsaw for Marble, 8...
PBS Nova
“Secrets Of Lost Empires - Pharaoh's Obelisk”
• Pharaoh's Obelisk Do...
“Riddles Of The Sphinx”
• FULL DOC Riddles of th...
“Secrets Of The Parthenon”
• Secrets of the Parthen...
Thanks for inviting me on, it was a good chat.
Thank you too Alan! Indeed it was, we probably could’ve continued talking for hours. Let’s do it again some time 😃
The two of you channels have made me a better person. I've accepted that we were lied to and now just be extremely skeptical.
I have a similar history journey as this guy. Started with graham hancock but have since had a series of questions that lead me back towards the mainstream, the demonstrations of ancient primitive tech has definitely helped along that path, but also reading archaeology news and mainstream history and realizing we know a lot more definitive on some of this stuff than the alternative wants to admit.
Sacred Geometry Decoded is one of the most under-rated history channels on youtube. Such a knowledgeable dude. Definitely worth subscribing to that one.
Facts. That man is absolutely brilliant.
Well done Ancient Presence for having Alan on, more people need to see his channel to check out the processes he demonstrates that show how simple stone quarrying, lifting, cutting, drilling & polishing is, with tools that were available to the ancients 4,000 to 5,000 years ago.
Ah, that is really good! There is a lot of debunking from Alan about the lost-ancient-technology-community, and I have been following him for some time now. For me he is like a vaccine against the all too speculative claims people make about the past. Knowledge cannot be postulated, but only grow by peer reviews. Good you offer a platform to discuss this.
I really appreciate your channel, no sacred cows. I was born in 1950 and so much has changed especially common sense and critical thinking. I remember the first encyclopedia set, now everything is in the palm of your hand yet ignorance rules the day. You prove old fashioned research is still relevant. Thanks.
Been following SGD and Alan for a couple years now. His knowledge and research are spot on and huge!
In depth work from this guy! 🙃
Definitely! Alan is a fascinating guy with a great wealth of knowledge. We really enjoyed our talk with him 😃
Not to take anything away from the unusual accomplishment and depth of consciousness of the ancients, but It’s not just the ancients who are brilliant. As far as I can see this channel and the two behind it are also brilliant - on so many levels! Such a valuable resource bringing that much needed balance. Big respect, guys! 🤙🤙
Love your channel man! I haven't watched your latest episode YET, but I hope your move to Luxor went smoothly!
Much love to you Anyextee 🤙
Thanks for the nice comment. It's great to share the journey of learning about ancient history with other quality channels. We hope Luxor is treating you well. Let's do a podcast some time!
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Enjoyed that - been a fan of SGD for a while. I too was taken in by LAHT at first - the reason I started my channel. It didn't take too long though for me to realise that certain things just didn't add up. I used to work with stone, so this was always a particular interest. I researched into stone processing/lifting etc...and tried to share my findings with certain channels - got shadowbanned fast!:)...(unchartedx/foerster etc)...I also found (as you may have) that a lot of this LAHT stems from theosophical ideas...and it actually led me down a rather unsavoury rabbit hole that I was glad to get out of...another reason I've given up on this for now...some unwholesome darkness there, imo.
Wow thanks for sharing all of that. We also started this channel on the the lost advanced civilization side of the debate and, through our thorough research, have come to realize that so much of that is unfounded and irrational, wishful thinking and a total lack of research and understanding. Of course it sounds sensational that sites like the Serapeum were made using high technology for a technological purpose, but that is just utter nonsense, once you do enough research to actually understand the history of the site.
We’re currently working on our part II on the Serapeum, it’ll be ready next week probably. Did you watch our part I? Doing epic deep dives reveals so much that dispels the ignorance that is far too widely being spread around out there on the internet. It’s unfortunate how much misinformation continues to be passed around as fact.
It’s also unfortunate that people like you get shadow banned from sensational channels promoting this stuff. Our intention is to bridge the gaps, respectfully, and shine light on misunderstandings about the ancient world, so we can all learn and grow together.
@@AncientPresence thanks for the reply - hope my comment didn't get too weird lol..(i'm going to edit out some of it - if you need any info again, let me know).I'll admit - it's hard to gauge sometimes how 'far' to connect things...I try to be as grounded as I can, but sometimes the clues just yell at me! I'll check your serapeum vid - I'll be honest - I've had a huge break from all this...ended up feeling quite stressed and unhappy with certain realisations...be careful - you might end up like me lol:)
Maybe the unwholesome darkness is, that if there was really an ancient civilization with high tech, and they convinced all the others that they are magicians and gods, perhaps it's not worth bothering about some bastards that want to be worshipped, even if they do have high tech lol. You know I'm half kidding but also half serious. We are the result of that past, of all those gods and magicians.. so if that is the case, the same gods didn't help us create a perfect world evidently. Let's kick those bastards in the pants, forget about them and develop in our own way! 😍😅
@@AncientPresence UnchartedX has just posted what ,barring some expose of gross fabrication , seems to be incontrovertible evidence of a degree of precision even far greater than claimed for LAHT -literally within a FEW 1000ths of an inch from PERFECTION -- video title , "Scanning an ancient granite vase to 1000ths of an inch ' etc - fully detailed and awaiting posting of raw data but absolutely astounding CONFIRMATION of ADVANCED MACHINING NOT hand held rock bashing or some ridiculous 'copper chiselling/sand grinding' crap.
This was awesome, really enjoyed this discussion. I have watched a few of Alan's videos and it took this interview to convert me to a subscriber of his, such a depth of knowledge and great way of conveying it. Great job team. Guys, you are the home I have been searching for in the last couple of months, I have found myself thinking exactly the way you are, somewhere inbetween the 2 worlds of mainstream and alternative. Yourself, Anyextee and Sacred Geometry Decoded are now my go to places.
Now I need to go watch hidden in plain site and reading even more books. Great job!
Thanks for the sweet comment 😃 We’re glad you’re finding a home on our channel. We’ve definitely come a long way from our original perspectives on ancient history when we started this channel. People like SGD have helped us see through the facade of many of the alternative theories that don’t hold water when you actually examine them properly. Unfortunately, Anyextee comments on our videos that he doesn’t believe in the lost technology stuff any more, while still doing tours with Christopher Dunn and Johanna James. He seems to be playing both sides.
Do you mean Secrets In Plain Sight? By Scott Onstott? Yes that’s one of the most amazing documentaries ever. Mind blowing. You can watch it free here, you need to sign up first though.
sacredgeometryacademy.com/course/secrets-in-plain-sight
@@AncientPresence thanks for the response, yes sorry secrets in plain sight. I will be sure to watch it as it seems awesome.
Regarding Anyextee, I would hate to comment on what I don't know and speculate his stance on lost high technology. But I find myself somewhat conflicted now also, im not sure if its technology or just knowledge, methods and knowhow that has been lost passed down for a very longtime. Probably something similar to what Alan was hinting at in this video interview. I think there are a couple of things that could hint to possible high technology, but with my lack if engineering knowledge its hard to gauge if it is high tech Egyptians and possible earlier cultures had or just they had more tools in the tool kit (like that of the Greeks and Romans) than Egyptologists give them credit for.
My perception on Anyextee stance was more along the lines of perhaps there was some high tech but not as much as what the alternative crowd claim. But I could be very wrong.
Either way I like your approach of being respectful and learning from everyone, together. Great philosophy
@Ancient Presence not that it matters but this was the comment I was referring to on the 3rd Serapeum video.
Thanks for the video. I’m very excited to see it. I wanted to hear the skeptics side
You’ll certainly enjoy this one 👍
Great work! Please continue making vids guys, just found yall
It's taken me a long to realise it's ok to be wrong..... it must be a human nature thing
Fantastic work! This was a brilliant discussion
Thanks grant, your additions to the live chat were really great too.
People have a hard time imagining ancient life. Because there is no documentation of it we have to imagine it ourselves based on the information we encounter. And most of us only encounter such info in the form of crappy illustration and cheap/misinformed re-enactments. For the longest time my image of hunter gatheres was a group of 10-20 people just sitting on the ground all day, waiting doing nothing. That is the only thing I saw in textbooks.
But of course humans from 10.000 years ago were practically identical to us. They travelled, they traded, they made art, they made music, they had crafts, they had social lives, politics, mass events, etc. If you strip modern life down to its principles it is the exact same thing, we do some kind of work to put a roof over our head and food on the table and for the rest we all hope to achieve something meaningful like doing something that is respected or starting a family. It was just smaller and instead of youtube they had campfires and starlit skies. Instead of working in an office you worked to sustain the village/tribe in whatever capacity suits you or is needed like rope maker or foreger or cook or hunter, etc.
People still had social life with friends, gossip, love interests, bad puns, etc. But instead of it revolving around school or work it revolves around large ceremonies, festivities, things that brought people together from many different tribes and whatnot. There were tradesmen and communicators who frequently travelled the lands to trade goods and information. There were established trade routes over land and water.
Just like us they had 24 hours a day and they had the ability to talk, they weren't like animals just sitting around doing nothing but silent eating all day, they were humans who got bored, who told jokes, who told big stories, that squabled, fantasized, dared, etc. We estimate that hunter gatherers that lived in areas with plenty of resources only had to work a couple of hours a day to sustain themselves, that leaves more than enough time to travel to a clothes maker who makes the best skin jackets to impress the cute girl from the neighboring tribe, to design a prettier temple so your village gets chosen for a special ceremony, to invent a new way to store food so the tribe will finally recognize that you are to be respected, to plan a trip to some remote lands that somebody told you about,etc.
Great episode guys. Following the evidence will seldom lead to an unsupportable conclusion.
Have him on again!
At some point, we definitely will! 😃
The thing that gives the LHTC an in with this site (Balbek) is that there are no written records detailing who commissioned and carried out the construction nor any written description of the techniques employed. This doesn't prove a wit but gives them a rational to claim we don't know who built it.
How does the guest know that the mortar used on the pyramid, or other blocks thrown in there weren't part of a restoration project?
Finding wooden rollers next to the serapeum boxes and concluding thats how they were moved == finding a Hammer next to the Great Pyramid and concluding that's how it was built
Finding a hammer next the great pyramid and saying that it couldn’t have possibly been used to build the pyramid is an extremely illogical way to think, if you ignore the fact that the hammer is in a tool box full of other tools, in a work shop full of equipment that undoubtedly were used to build the pyramid.
One must look at all the evidence together and form a full picture and put it all into context. I encourage you to watch our full 3 part Serapeum series and you’ll see what I’m talking about. The rollers are just a small piece of an enormous puzzle of evidence that explains the creation of the Serapeum.
you retarded?
This channel use to be interesting, now they're just a bunch of paid liars, what a waste. The way they're attacking Graham and Ben,nis just disgusting, makes my stomach revolt
@@helbertsantos3275 Ahhh...do they ruin all your fun? Grow up!
@@helbertsantos3275
Truth is sometimes hard to swallow, especially if one has invested so much of themselves in fantasy, it takes courage to admit to ones innermost self that they've been taken for a ride
Egypt had a civilization that lasted about 2500 years. The Romans only about 1000. The people who inhabited the old kingdom were related to, to some degree, but were an entirely different people than those who lived during the reign of the Ramesses. The Romans borrowed culture from the Greeks. But they and the Greeks got their knowledge of quarrying and stone masonry from the Egyptians.
*_"Egypt had a civilization that lasted about 2500 years"_*
Over 3,000, actually. Longer if you include the pre-Dynastic period.
QI fact: Cleopatra VII (died 30 BC) was further away in time from the Great Pyramid (~2560 BC) than she is to us today.
Kind of adds some perspective, I think.
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@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 You got me. You are correct.
Do a podcast with him on Hamlet's Mill.
"Like any adult, when new evidence comes along you change your opinion".
So around 1:31:00 the use of calculations to navigate the oceans and how critical it was to be precise was brought up. I heard on another CZcams video.... I can't remember which.... that it is strange that all maps still show an older astrological sky and the tropical s are still called cancer and Capricorn when they should be Gemini and something else now I believe because of procession
How did they navigate for hundreds of years with incorrect star directions? I'm obv not an expert but I love astronomy so jw if anyone had an idea.
Some truth big difference between cutting moving and pictures....
The speed of light thing is a total coincidence and probably cooked up. Because you have three separate degrees of freedom that you can play with:
1. The units of measurement
2. The exact location selected (since a Pyramid is not a point object)
3. The mathematical or physical constant you want to get close to
To explain a bit more: first of all, degrees (latitude, measured from 0 to 360) and speed (meters per second in this case) are totally unrelated units of measurement... so with this degree of freedom, it's very likely to find accidental overlaps like that... first you look at the degrees, then you think which mathematical or physical constants are close to that... then there is the additional degree of freedom that the pyramid is not a "point-like" object, it has width and length, so that gives you an additional degree of freedom. So if meters per second don't work, maybe try miles per second, or miles per hour, or try radians instead of degrees, etc, etc. You can easily cook such things up if you know what you're aiming for lol... and if the speed of light doesn't work, there are so many other important constants in math and physics like e, pi, phi, speed of sound, gravitational constant, and on and on and on...
@@Kitties-of-Doom You didn't understand what I wrote
@@Kitties-of-Doom"It's babble" -- this is not a serious criticism. You haven't really addressed anything I wrote. Perhaps because it really is babble *to you*
@@Kitties-of-Doom You really need this nonsense to be true, why should I burst your bubble lol? First of all, make sure it really fits the number accurately when you measure the longitude of the center. Second, you have to explain why they coded it apparently not in meters/second but in meters*10000000/second, there's a decimal point after the 29 remember? But meh, what's a few hard facts between friends? 😂 Santa Claus is real, Pyramids were built by aliens (or a super advanced civilization, whatever). Just feel good about it.
Humans seem to suffer self esteem issues and so always look to others for truth.
One doesn’t need to suffer self esteem issues in order to seek truth through the help of others. We’re all in this together 😁
behind paywalls and buried in university..... speaking of guarded info :)
No not hidden. They make their money from institutes that pay for reliable, unbiased information for research as opposed to charging the people who submit their ideas for publication.
Pre internet journals did not advertise and had no gain/loss in rejecting submission.
Now anyone online can claim to be a journal and make their money from those who submit their papers, not those seeking reliable informations. The online "publishers" have a direct vested monetary interest to "publish" a paper or not. And they publish any rubbish as long as they collect their money.
So just pay. Or are you afraid of what you might find?
The problem with these lost ancient technology people accepting that they’re wrong is that if they do that their whole livelihood goes down the drain. I mean why listen to them and their fairy tales, read their books, go on their tours, if the “mainstream” version was right all along?
There have always been tours to ancient megalithic structures, long before alternative views came along. There's nothing wrong with advertising tours and making money from your channels. It's a business. Not many businesses are in the "business" to lose money.
@@coryCuc It is wrong when you lie and deceive people for money, that used to be called fraud.
@@LesterBrunt What's the "lie" and how does it meet the legal standard of "fraud?"
@@coryCuc Claiming that scientist lie, hide evidence and supposedly have no evidence/theories in order to sell their product that offers the “real” truth “they” don’t want you to know.
@@LesterBrunt Scientists do lie and hide evidence. Ya ever hear of this thing called Covid? Faucci? Big pharma? Now THAT is fraud. Nevermind the fact that that doesn't constitute "fraud." The "real" truth these guys are espousing are THEIR truths. Again, that's not fraud. That's called having a differing opinion.
Do you seriously believe they transported giant blocks to the top of machu pichi with cranes and roller pins? Do you seriously believe that? Could have asked him some hard hitting questions tbh.
How do you propose it was done,? Please be specific as you can.
@@jellyrollthunder3625 magic
@@BreakingNewGroundSubstack how is magic more believable than cranes and roller pins? Even though it would be near impossible that is still more possible than something that doesn't exist like magic.
No, they were obviously brought there using levitation devices like the History Channel says. Jfc
They were levitated there using singing chants! Lmao
In the end none of us really knows….
Here's how I see it. However the machining was done, it was not done in the basic primitive manner often presented to us by the mainstream; copper chisels, mallets, or fire and wooden wedges. So, when we talk of ancient high technology, any method more advanced then those, qualifies. Even if we could do the methods today, that we do not give credit to the ancients for being capable of doing construction in a near equal to or greater degree than modern day does them great discourtesy. I just want to know how they did it. Clearly they had tools. I also ponder the corrosive nature of metal when considering the remains of tools. Not much is left of metal after a few hundred years. Gold and silver won't corrode, but iron and steels will, all the tools will be gone.
Have you seen any of SGD’s videos on using primitive techniques to drill, cut and polish granite? It’s pretty straight forward, many people have experimented and achieved satisfactory results showing that primitive methods of cutting granite easily explain how the ancient stoneworks were created.
Can I try to translate this: 'I dunno how it was done, but that ain't it.' 'But mainstream got it wrong.' 'Having said that, they clearly had tools, and if they could do more or less modern equivalent, I don't know, how they did it, since there's no evidence of steel tools.'
There's no point to explain how it's done, if they know the methods (, ie. chisels, mallets, fire and wedges) and refuse to entertain the possibility.
@@AncientPresence I've watched plenty of SGD's videos and he has yet to drill, cut, polish huge granite stones which leave the same marks on the blocks with the tools he thinks were used. The majority of his videos are theoretical and not practical, unfortunately.
@@Akimos They don't want to entertain the idea because many people like Alan have minds that see completely closed off. Exactly the OPPOSITE view of what a "scientist" should have. Similar to you, I'm not going to say I know 100% how they did these things but I'm going to keep my mind open to the possibilities. These people unfortunately choose not to.
Please don't go for differing opinions, go for differing facts.
You can't control how other people react to your information presentations. Unfortunately you confront confirmation bias, cognative dissonance, and Dunning-Kruger effect.
Please keep up your quest regardless of what others say, including me.
I appreciate him having a different view on this stuff. I don't agree with most of what he's saying but I respect his right and effort to disprove the ancient tech stuff. I mean Indians, Ethiopians, Egyptians, Petra, South Americans and more were cutting out perfect rooms and giant sculptures out of solid cliff sides. Some of the stone with extreme hardness. Look at the temple in Ethiopia and those giant precise rooms in the middle east cut directly into the mountain. They would be inhaling tons of dust and wouldn't even be able to see in those caves cut out of marble. SGD doesn't talk about any of the unexplainable stuff. He cherry picks out only areas that could be explained by his views.
Hear, hear !
World of Antiquity has a great video on Who Made the BARABAR CAVES? Is it really unexplainable how people could carve the caves without inhaling tons of dust in the dark? They had oil lamps and could wear masks and use water to reduce dust
@@SubtleSalmon David Miano has discreditted himself by referencing "Scientists againt mythology' -specifically the episode where a Russian woman sets up a ricketty 'frame' to hold a shapeless lump of granite and 'stirs' it by hand against other rough chunks of granite or maybe diorite using a bent stick as a crank handle . The whole thing is indescribably crude (pre stone age tech might be a good approximation --we have lots of evidence of quite sophisticated stoneworking in terms of flaking and 'polishing' things like axe heads --aboriginal and particularly new guinea native tools for example , far better than the ultra crude Russian amateurs who only serve to debunk themselves ) Miano has not a clue about how ANY of the artifacts or megalithic structures featured on Uncharted x or other 'non mainstream' ancient lithology videos were made and resorts to promoting SGD (Allan Smith ) and Denys Stocks as the 'experts' . The incredibly PRECISE - to 1000ths of an inch accuracy MEASURED pre dynastic vase that Miano credits with being made by the Russian 'mangle' puts paid to all the 'just need a lot of time and patience' school of non thought --go look it up. ('Scanning an ancient egyptian granite vase to 1000ths of an inch etc' should do it ) Choose your gurus more wisely and look into 'SGD' more closely -particularly the esoteric freemason inspired "sacred geometry' mumbo jumbo.
@@rossnolan7283 Are you blind? Her vases are way more precise than the crap the Egyptians made.
@@rossnolan7283 So because Scientists Against Myth's set up is crude it is debunked? Obviously they arent able to do the same things ancient Egyptian craftsmen with centuries of stone working traditions behind them could do, it's just meant as a proof of concept. How do you think the vases were made?
It is truly impressive that Egyptians were able to make a lathe well enough to get something to be precise to thousandths of an inch. But it makes me curious that in the video, "Scanning a Predynastic Granite Vase to 1000th of an Inch" they only show the precision of certain parts of the vase. I'm curious if the full data would show imprecision elsewhere. I'd also be curious to see the precision of what Scientists Against Myths were able to get.
"Miano has not a clue about how ANY of the artifacts or megalithic structures featured on Uncharted x or other 'non mainstream' ancient lithology videos were made" That's an exaggeration isn't it?
Good advice on choosing guru's wisely, that's good advice for us all. That is why I don't consider anyone my guru
Your guest is one of the most bad mannered people on the internet, Insulting everyone against him, he talks a lot and does little; I watched most of his videos, gossip, theoretical, with no honest or real production, though he always pretend the opposite
So you haven't seen his experimental videos, in which he literally cuts and grinds granite and basalt by hand. I suggest you check them out, you will be quite amazed.
@@MrAchile13
I watched his videos about stone work, and yes, no real production, huge differences between the small stuff he showed us and the ancient work, not even close
@@RedDarkBull So you do admit then, he actually does quite a lot. Let's not be dishonest about it, he never tried to replicate Egyptian objects, he tried to debunk the claims of fringe you tubers like uncharted "chumlee" x, (not so) bright insight and Brien "I just make stuff up" Forester, namely the claims of bronze age Egyptians being unable to work granite, which he successfully did. Given, this was already known long ago inside the archaeological communities.
I'm really curious if you got the chance to see one of his latest videos, in which he grinds a granite plate until it becomes translucent under torchlight. I remember quite vividly uncharted x wondering how such thin objects can be made, although I remember those objects were of alabaster, not granite, which makes the achievement even more impressive, won't you agree?
@@MrAchile13
I agree that we need to be honest and fair.
Therefore when someone says that granite cannot be done with copper & bronze tools,
he meant copper could not shape granite in an effective way and reach the level we see in Egyptian Artifacts in a considerable amount of time
so cutting a few centimeters in days and claiming this is the way have been demonstrated since 25 years by Denys Stocks and Nova Team, there is nothing new about that, and still not convincing for many people who argued that the same way could not be used to cut an obelisk. please don't blame anyone of being not convinced.
In addition, Stocks was a much more polite gentleman and did not keep attacking everyone, I agree with some of his inputs and disagree with others, but I admire Stocks.
Again, I watched all SGD recent videos
@@RedDarkBull That is what they're trying to move the goal posts to, but if you have watched the fringe "alternative community" long enough, you will surely remember back in the day when they were claiming bronze chisels cannot work granite and therefore the Egyptians could not work granite, which is a straw man.
We know the Egyptians saw granite and sawing granite today will show similar marks as the ones in the archaeological record, just look at Hordjedef's sarcophagus or Khufu's sarcophagus.
Using the sawing rate obtained by Stocks (12 cubic cm/h if I remember correctly, though you might want to double check), you can calculate the sawing time of any granite block of your choice, so I have to ask, can you name a single one that would take too long?
The problem is the obelisks were not sawed, they were quarried and claiming otherwise would be a straw man. Shaping a rectangular block of stone is a basic feat for most big civilizations on this planet, so why would it be different for the Egyptians? Besides, Dieter Arnold already showed some obelisks display manufacturing errors.
I am not talking about SGD as a person, if he's nice or not, I'm talking about his experiments and about the scientific data. Claiming he does little, after making a translucent piece of granite, it's a bit unfair, isn't it? The only reason the "alternative community" doesn't claim it's an impossible object made by high tech, it's because they didn't found it in a museum.