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@@sansnosekewea69 I've also been using a chamber heater with no issues. I think the issue here is the forced air due to it also having the filter.

@@J3DTech The one I have also came with carbon filters, but way smaller than Elegoo's. I don't think they do much in respect to filtering fumes, but neither do they add much air resistance.

@@sansnosekewea69 They don't do anything at all, best to just remove it.

The heater?

I'm still working on getting data for my big review, but so far the M7Pro is pretty good.

@@fluxcapacitor This also has the filter built into it. I'm thinking the fan RPM is so high because it doubles as a filtration. The problem is that the filtration doesn't do anything. The heater is very important if it's built well. That's the only reason why I can think the RPM of the fan is set so high.

@@SpentAmbitionDrain I've tested many options of heaters out there. If you have a set-up you like. Send me a PM with it.

​@@J3DTech Away from home for a bit. If I remember when back I will send you a pic.

@@aaronb1138 A good experience is the Saturn 3 Ultra with a casted cup for the build arm. Your right it's not perfect, but under the context of a desktop 3D printer it's great. The tolerances we need to print well are 0.2mm better if you can keep 0.1mm from corner to corner. But even 0.3mm can still be overcome. Something I have never Seen be an issue in this type of build arm / plate. However I have seen it be an issue on the Saturn 3 Ultra with the casted parts. Remember, we are not making pistons, turret rings or rockets going to Mars. We are talking about Chinese made desktop printers for hobbyists.

@@kunalkapoor3883 Haha of only I had any spare. At this point I still don't have what I need.

@@J3DTech you always expects more this is human behaviour

@@felixxcatus You and me both, delete all the frill, keep it simple and solid.

@@Xelonius Thank you! I put a lot of work into making sure it was 100% object. So not only can you calibrate your printer. But you can actually use it to compare resin and printers in a way that removes all subjective variables. Word vomit 🤮 sorry.

@@JerryBWagoner I just thought it would be fun.

The European mind can't comprehend 😂

@@mugetzu Yes, it will maintain 30c during the entire print. 😊

@@J3DTech The perks of not being the earlier/first reviewer on the next gen. I get a true picture of the printer capability now. Yay.

@@mugetzu I never updated the firmware this is out of the box, difference between early review units and final production?

@@A-Eye--A Because I don't want a 30+ min video. Part two will also have a very different feel as it will be more technical and data vs a show and tell of the printer.

@@J3DTech ok because FauxHammer said he would make a best 3d resin printer over 6 months ago and he never did, in other words dont promise any thing you cant keep in a reasonable amount of time

​@@A-Eye--A I've been working on part 2 since before I even published part 1. Originally it was going to be one but it was getting too big. And to be honest these new printers are really inconsistent adding a lot of time to the verification process. Not that this really matters but maybe a little. I payed for the Revo, S4U, M7Pro, and M3P that I'll be doing the reviews on. I have never received a single $ from any of the 3D printing companies for any services. When offerd, the answer is: Hell no. I want to be free the make the content I want to make. In the end I simply hope you and others enjoy it and find helpfull.

@@3Dgifts Part 2 will be the technical side of this.

@@J3DTechThank you.

@@amrogers3 Thank you very much!

@@pingbot261 I wish nope I'm just a tiny little fish. You will find most of my work on the Lychee Slicer CZcams.

There are entertainers, and then there are the true Tech contributors to the community. J3D is the ladder and sadly the ladder doesn't make him the most famous (J3D Guide is a godsent to the printing community).

@@mugetzu Very true

@@user-pm8fs8mn8k I was thinking about that whether or not I should keep including that extra content in a video review or if I should keep it very much on topic. I do think on this video I should have edited it a little bit more to remove some of it, but let me know if you think I should remove all of it and keep that into a separate video? That said, what I do is I give lychee slicer this video and then they take it and make shorts out of it and those shorts are these little tidbits of information and they put those on the Lychee Slicer CZcams channel. If you go look at their shorts, you'll see there's a lot of little bits and information from some of the other videos and live streams that I've done.

@@J3DTech I personally like those bits here and there, because it signals for me, as a viewer, that there is alot of knowledge and passion involved. I found this video very genuine, so would never say it should be removed. It makes me curious and wanting to see more! Especially where the small bits, which were just kinda mentioned in passing, are fully explained and shown. Thanks for the reply and recommendation of the Lyche Slicer channel! Thought they only have a French one until now.

@@ItsBrody I've not had this same result. I sometimes let it drip overnight and sometimes I'm printing back to back. Either way I'm getting drips. Even on the S4U where I have the drip hanger. Moving it from the arm to the hanger I'll get a few drops on or outside of the VAT. Hence the tape. Edit, I'm trying to prevent the resin from dripping outside of the vat and trying to take it off in a way where the resin dripped off the build plate into the I remove it from the printer.

@@FedericoAltolaguirre Right now the S4U has some issues that put it on my don't buy list. If Elegoo is able to resolve the issues it will be a great printer.

@J3DTech I'm intriguing by their tilting vat, should speed up printing considerably and also reduce/remove suction cups effect right?

@@FedericoAltolaguirre Suction cup effect is fep release, both need to release the print from the fep. Maybe a pressure difference but I wouldn't count on it saving your prints due to suction cups. The do not buy list is what's keeping me away from the S4U even thought i'd like a faster printer (without sacrificing print quality like most). J3D wouldn't make such a comment without a valid reason (i've seen other creators also raise some flags on the S4U). I'll wait on his comparison and suggestion, last time I didn't listen to him and missed out on the best printer you can't buy anymore :(

@@gilbertpatrucco5196 Thank you! And a lot more detailed information will be included in P2

@@retromodernart4426 It's a lot of work. It can take me 2-3 weeks of research on a single printer and by 2-3 weeks I mean 4 to 6 hours a day. I wish I was better at videography and being on camera but hopefully over time I can get a little bit better and even better editing my editing sucks.

@@MayaTlab All ready done, it will be in part 2. I felt this one was getting long, so P2 will be more technical than this one. It also gives me time to allow more users to get and use the printer. This helps me find any underlying issues, testing and problem solving.

@@another_channel77 I've not been pretty much longer than you. It's been fun though and thank you for your compliments. I'm very happy the guide been helpful to you and others.

Right now I would suggest getting the Mega 8k or the Saturn 3 Ultra. Maybe best to avoid any printer with Auto leveing.

@@johncook538_modelwerks Thank you so much! It's sooo much work to put all this together. It means a great deal when someone takes the time to understand and even more to comment. Again thank you

@@J3DTech THANK YOU!! I'm a big sci-fi model maker and a lot of subjects are only available through 3D printing. Now I'm able to print tremendous details for my projects. Thanks again.

Thank you!

@@happybunny1986 I have bugs to share on other printers. Just takes a bit to get all the data or content recorded and edited.

@@J3DTech thanks, I've sent off a support ticket asking if they are aware of the issue and if they have any official fixes.

That sucks, I'm sorry. I have sent the data to Elegoo so they should be able to see if it can be fixed in firmware. But there is a chance that it simply cant be resolved without replacement hardware.

I guess for now I'll just be printing without AA and hoping for the best. Thanks for raising awareness on this.

On what printer? With the XL you will often get a thicker raft due to the heat and the size of the part, so on this we care more 1. Did they all print, Yes good, Are they all about the same thickness? What you want is from the thinest to the thickness no great then 0.3mm difference. 0.2mm if you can get it, but some printers just cant.

On a elegoo mars 3, yes There is a raft who appear, so it's normal? But the size are différent from the left to the right, 0,2 0,3 mm différence so it make 1,2 mm on the left with raft and 1,5 on the right.

@@J3DTech On a elegoo mars 3, they all print good, but the thickness on the left was 1,2 and on the right 1,5 approximatly, (mesure with a meter), difference between left and right can be a problem?

@@Kivar1 It's about as much as you want it. If you want to try to level again you can but it's probably ok

@@J3DTech Ok, thx a lot

@@tysonbradbrook1634 The nFEP for the M3-PREMIUM will work for this printer

@@J3DTech is that same has the ms5 pro?

@@tysonbradbrook1634 Yeah they are all about the same size. In my guide link in the description I have links on the bottom for all the things. Including 2 places to buy nFEP.

@@J3DTech i cant find the links for them

@@tysonbradbrook1634 siraya.tech/products/siraya-tech-nfep-film?sca_ref=2644036.MwjqCAnkkr

@@Kivar1 Yes you can. But I still recommend printing the build plate calibration parts after that to confirm your level and Z offset and going from there.

@@J3DTech Thx ! and i can do it without resin in the vat or it must be with?

@@Kivar1 Either way but a little resin makes it better.

@@J3DTech Ok Thx a lot !

@@peterpeter5666 I've now tested a lot of printers with auto leveling, and I have yet to find one that's as good as manual leveling. However, this particular printer is so far the best of the bunch at it.

@@J3DTech appreciate your reply! guess ill wait a bit longer . was planning on getting a resin printer around september.

@@mackbolan1733 I have and they are quite different. The TGM7 is much easier to bend and doesn't have the accuracy of the RPG What I don't know yet is how they hold up over time.

@@J3DTech Thanks for the reply, very interesting. I'm currently using TGM-7 for my gaming miniatures, but I am interested in checking out this new RPG resin from Phrozen.

@@mackbolan1733 Give is a try and let me know!

@@mitchelcacciola8055 Nope, there hasn't been a lot of progress on this. To be honest, I'm a little bit disappointed.

@@J3DTech that's very disappointing to say the least It's the only issue I've had with my S4 Ultra.

@@mitchelcacciola8055 You're Lucky there is another really big issues that's effecting quite a few users and that's the Auto leveling, isn't.

Here you go makerworld.com/en/models/535082

@@J3DTech thanks

@@eddiexx Unfortunately AA won't help much with stepping. It can a little bit not much. You will need to reduce the lawyer thickness to 30um or 20um then calibrate to see any real difference. I'm not 100% sure in Chitubox but on Lychee for best results do HD AA with 2px and 0% gray.

@@J3DTech Oh i see, MANY thanks for taking the time and responding. Now i know what i could test and see how it works :)

@@MijailMusicOfficial Yes and I am told this is required due to the 14k LCD to keep the CPU and lighting engine cool.

@@J3DTech 🙏❤️ Thanks

Yep, and sadly it will effect all printers as they do get the LCD's from the same place. Anycubic are less effected then the others. In my test most of the newer Anycubic Printers will error or crash. I don't have all of them so I'm unable to test everythign.

@@J3DTech Oh, that's good to know. Spent the past few days figuring out what my next printer will be (still sitting on that original Photon. Inherited a used Saturn 2 from a friend, but it died a month ago). Most likely gonna go with the M7 Pro... which should be able to pick up from where it ended after power loss. So I wonder...if this happens and it errors out and/or crashes...will it also be able to pick up from the last layer? That would be useful. Unless it just proceeds to immediately crash again on retry of that layer :D

@@PatrickHoodDaniel Thank you! A lot of my content can also be found on the Lychee Slicer CZcams.

@@J3DTech good to know. Thanks.

@@samanthaknepper5963 If you can what issues have you experienced? I'd like to verify and possibly include it in my Final review.

@@dcshores49 Sadly we are slower on this printer then any other. You can still support and prepare your file in Lychee export it as a . STL then slice and send it using Anycubic slicer. Unfortunately we won't likely get this printer added till next month.

@@Leogk001 yes they said there's nothing they can do about it due to the extra power on the motherboard to increase the image processing for the 14k LCD it requires the fans. However, I'm thinking I could probably mod it and use some higher quality fans and make it quieter.

@@J3DTech ok, thank you for replying so quickly, I appreciate it

@@BlueBirdGTV It doesn't work is the take away.

@@outkast187 I talked about the screen protector but not much. Here is why, I don't use them, I don't recommend you using them. In my review on the Saturn 3 Ultra I did go into a little bit more detail on this topic. The issue, you paid for a 14k display, but the second you put that extra screen protector on you're basically down to 8K or worse. There are two reasons for this. One is of course the more material you have pass light through the more diffused it will become. The second issue is that the LCD is only in focus directly at the surface of the LCD. The more distance you put between the printed object and the surface of the LCD the more and more out of focus the light will become. Because of this, in my opinion, it is better to have a good workflow where you are safe and secure, then rely on a screen protector. In fact, even if you have a screen protector, you can still damage your screen or your printer. So having a good workflow is essential regardless.