It is refreshing to see someone take their time to do comprehensive videos about something. You sir, are a bright light in the saturated resin 3d printing world. I love your videos and think that more people need to see them. The information and level of honesty is unparalleled. Thank you for what you do and I can just hope that you reach many more people. Stay true to you. Thank you!!!
Hello! A little over 2 years ago, I learned how to print with resin the correct way with you, in a document on Google Drive. To this day I share this document with many people, you have already helped many Brazilians hehe. Thank you for your contents.
@@another_channel77 I've not been pretty much longer than you. It's been fun though and thank you for your compliments. I'm very happy the guide been helpful to you and others.
No why can't all the reviewers make an informative and professional review like you just did? That was great, short and to the point, all we need to see is how it prints! Much appreciated, great video as usual!
@@retromodernart4426 It's a lot of work. It can take me 2-3 weeks of research on a single printer and by 2-3 weeks I mean 4 to 6 hours a day. I wish I was better at videography and being on camera but hopefully over time I can get a little bit better and even better editing my editing sucks.
I am so glad I discovered this channel...the only time in years where the YT recommendations did something useful. Great review without the usual sensationalistic presentation. Looking forward to your comparisons! Also, would be great if you can package some of your knowledge-drops into a seperate video, like the VAT-film thing.
@@user-pm8fs8mn8k I was thinking about that whether or not I should keep including that extra content in a video review or if I should keep it very much on topic. I do think on this video I should have edited it a little bit more to remove some of it, but let me know if you think I should remove all of it and keep that into a separate video? That said, what I do is I give lychee slicer this video and then they take it and make shorts out of it and those shorts are these little tidbits of information and they put those on the Lychee Slicer CZcams channel. If you go look at their shorts, you'll see there's a lot of little bits and information from some of the other videos and live streams that I've done.
@@J3DTech I personally like those bits here and there, because it signals for me, as a viewer, that there is alot of knowledge and passion involved. I found this video very genuine, so would never say it should be removed. It makes me curious and wanting to see more! Especially where the small bits, which were just kinda mentioned in passing, are fully explained and shown. Thanks for the reply and recommendation of the Lyche Slicer channel! Thought they only have a French one until now.
@@FedericoAltolaguirre Right now the S4U has some issues that put it on my don't buy list. If Elegoo is able to resolve the issues it will be a great printer.
@@FedericoAltolaguirre Suction cup effect is fep release, both need to release the print from the fep. Maybe a pressure difference but I wouldn't count on it saving your prints due to suction cups. The do not buy list is what's keeping me away from the S4U even thought i'd like a faster printer (without sacrificing print quality like most). J3D wouldn't make such a comment without a valid reason (i've seen other creators also raise some flags on the S4U). I'll wait on his comparison and suggestion, last time I didn't listen to him and missed out on the best printer you can't buy anymore :(
Thanks for the unboxing, and nice to know that the heater can run throughout the entire print ! One thing that I like a lot about the Revo isn't just the ball screw, it's the bearings anchoring the rod to the printer's frame. I'm wondering if some UV filtering protection sheets could be used on the lamp to avoid it emitting curing wavelengths. Will you be able to measure the light uniformity of the Revo and other printers ? It's been a significant issue for me with the Mini 8KS, either in terms of uniformity for a single unit, or across units.
@@MayaTlab All ready done, it will be in part 2. I felt this one was getting long, so P2 will be more technical than this one. It also gives me time to allow more users to get and use the printer. This helps me find any underlying issues, testing and problem solving.
There are entertainers, and then there are the true Tech contributors to the community. J3D is the ladder and sadly the ladder doesn't make him the most famous (J3D Guide is a godsent to the printing community).
16:51 you say you let the resin drip off outside the vat? Why tilt it at all? Personally (after i let it sit for a bit) I take the plate off keeping it flat then there is little to no drippage at all. EDIT: Oh later you raised it.
@@ItsBrody I've not had this same result. I sometimes let it drip overnight and sometimes I'm printing back to back. Either way I'm getting drips. Even on the S4U where I have the drip hanger. Moving it from the arm to the hanger I'll get a few drops on or outside of the VAT. Hence the tape. Edit, I'm trying to prevent the resin from dripping outside of the vat and trying to take it off in a way where the resin dripped off the build plate into the I remove it from the printer.
Thanks for the info. You didn’t go into how the 14k number isn’t truly 14k. There is another channel Faux Hammer I believe, that goes into detail about how that number is truly misleading and when you run print comparisons, the 8k for example has better quality than the 14k. He dies a great deep dive on this. Marketing 😅
it's a nice printer but I wish companies would focus more on giving you bang for you buck, instead of adding things like air purifiers and auto-leveling to drive up the price I'd rather have a solid sturdy printer without the bells and whistle, something more like the Saturn 3
@@A-Eye--A Because I don't want a 30+ min video. Part two will also have a very different feel as it will be more technical and data vs a show and tell of the printer.
@@J3DTech ok because FauxHammer said he would make a best 3d resin printer over 6 months ago and he never did, in other words dont promise any thing you cant keep in a reasonable amount of time
@@A-Eye--A I've been working on part 2 since before I even published part 1. Originally it was going to be one but it was getting too big. And to be honest these new printers are really inconsistent adding a lot of time to the verification process. Not that this really matters but maybe a little. I payed for the Revo, S4U, M7Pro, and M3P that I'll be doing the reviews on. I have never received a single $ from any of the 3D printing companies for any services. When offerd, the answer is: Hell no. I want to be free the make the content I want to make. In the end I simply hope you and others enjoy it and find helpfull.
Only 5 minutes in, but the extrusion for the platform mounting versus cast statement is a bit off. That mounting is flawed in that the single screw must retain a loose fitting in 3 dimensions with only 1 mating plane. The whole "want to look for milled / extruded parts over casted" well I don't know which printer is being referred to, but that blanket statement is just simply untrue from a mechanical engineering standpoint when the extruded part here is clearly free in all 3 axes in fitment and has no positive positioning. More important is to look for mechanisms which positively retain in multiple axes without hopes and prayers focused on a single axis, single contact point providing sufficient friction to hold the other 2 axes. "Good" materials don't compensate for poor engineering. The design of *this* bed plate / print platform can clearly be aligned on the arm differently every single print, so statements about casting flash are right out the window.
@@aaronb1138 A good experience is the Saturn 3 Ultra with a casted cup for the build arm. Your right it's not perfect, but under the context of a desktop 3D printer it's great. The tolerances we need to print well are 0.2mm better if you can keep 0.1mm from corner to corner. But even 0.3mm can still be overcome. Something I have never Seen be an issue in this type of build arm / plate. However I have seen it be an issue on the Saturn 3 Ultra with the casted parts. Remember, we are not making pistons, turret rings or rockets going to Mars. We are talking about Chinese made desktop printers for hobbyists.
It is refreshing to see someone take their time to do comprehensive videos about something. You sir, are a bright light in the saturated resin 3d printing world. I love your videos and think that more people need to see them. The information and level of honesty is unparalleled. Thank you for what you do and I can just hope that you reach many more people. Stay true to you. Thank you!!!
@@gilbertpatrucco5196 Thank you! And a lot more detailed information will be included in P2
Hello!
A little over 2 years ago, I learned how to print with resin the correct way with you, in a document on Google Drive. To this day I share this document with many people, you have already helped many Brazilians hehe.
Thank you for your contents.
@@another_channel77 I've not been pretty much longer than you. It's been fun though and thank you for your compliments. I'm very happy the guide been helpful to you and others.
No why can't all the reviewers make an informative and professional review like you just did?
That was great, short and to the point, all we need to see is how it prints!
Much appreciated, great video as usual!
@@retromodernart4426 It's a lot of work. It can take me 2-3 weeks of research on a single printer and by 2-3 weeks I mean 4 to 6 hours a day.
I wish I was better at videography and being on camera but hopefully over time I can get a little bit better and even better editing my editing sucks.
I am so glad I discovered this channel...the only time in years where the YT recommendations did something useful. Great review without the usual sensationalistic presentation. Looking forward to your comparisons! Also, would be great if you can package some of your knowledge-drops into a seperate video, like the VAT-film thing.
@@user-pm8fs8mn8k I was thinking about that whether or not I should keep including that extra content in a video review or if I should keep it very much on topic.
I do think on this video I should have edited it a little bit more to remove some of it, but let me know if you think I should remove all of it and keep that into a separate video?
That said, what I do is I give lychee slicer this video and then they take it and make shorts out of it and those shorts are these little tidbits of information and they put those on the Lychee Slicer CZcams channel.
If you go look at their shorts, you'll see there's a lot of little bits and information from some of the other videos and live streams that I've done.
@@J3DTech I personally like those bits here and there, because it signals for me, as a viewer, that there is alot of knowledge and passion involved. I found this video very genuine, so would never say it should be removed. It makes me curious and wanting to see more! Especially where the small bits, which were just kinda mentioned in passing, are fully explained and shown.
Thanks for the reply and recommendation of the Lyche Slicer channel! Thought they only have a French one until now.
Dropping a comment and a like to support you and your channel. I appreciate everything you do! ❤
@@amrogers3 Thank you very much!
Great machine! Can’t wait to see your results. À plus!
I'm thinking upgrading my printer this year and I'm in between the revo and the saturn 4, will be looking at your videos
@@FedericoAltolaguirre Right now the S4U has some issues that put it on my don't buy list. If Elegoo is able to resolve the issues it will be a great printer.
@J3DTech I'm intriguing by their tilting vat, should speed up printing considerably and also reduce/remove suction cups effect right?
@@FedericoAltolaguirre Suction cup effect is fep release, both need to release the print from the fep. Maybe a pressure difference but I wouldn't count on it saving your prints due to suction cups.
The do not buy list is what's keeping me away from the S4U even thought i'd like a faster printer (without sacrificing print quality like most). J3D wouldn't make such a comment without a valid reason (i've seen other creators also raise some flags on the S4U). I'll wait on his comparison and suggestion, last time I didn't listen to him and missed out on the best printer you can't buy anymore :(
Thanks for the unboxing, and nice to know that the heater can run throughout the entire print ! One thing that I like a lot about the Revo isn't just the ball screw, it's the bearings anchoring the rod to the printer's frame. I'm wondering if some UV filtering protection sheets could be used on the lamp to avoid it emitting curing wavelengths. Will you be able to measure the light uniformity of the Revo and other printers ? It's been a significant issue for me with the Mini 8KS, either in terms of uniformity for a single unit, or across units.
@@MayaTlab All ready done, it will be in part 2.
I felt this one was getting long, so P2 will be more technical than this one.
It also gives me time to allow more users to get and use the printer. This helps me find any underlying issues, testing and problem solving.
its crazy you only have 4k subs? I thought you had like 400K!?
@@pingbot261 I wish nope I'm just a tiny little fish.
You will find most of my work on the Lychee Slicer CZcams.
There are entertainers, and then there are the true Tech contributors to the community. J3D is the ladder and sadly the ladder doesn't make him the most famous (J3D Guide is a godsent to the printing community).
@@mugetzu Very true
16:51 you say you let the resin drip off outside the vat? Why tilt it at all? Personally (after i let it sit for a bit) I take the plate off keeping it flat then there is little to no drippage at all.
EDIT: Oh later you raised it.
@@ItsBrody I've not had this same result. I sometimes let it drip overnight and sometimes I'm printing back to back.
Either way I'm getting drips.
Even on the S4U where I have the drip hanger. Moving it from the arm to the hanger I'll get a few drops on or outside of the VAT.
Hence the tape.
Edit, I'm trying to prevent the resin from dripping outside of the vat and trying to take it off in a way where the resin dripped off the build plate into the I remove it from the printer.
Thanks for the info. You didn’t go into how the 14k number isn’t truly 14k. There is another channel Faux Hammer I believe, that goes into detail about how that number is truly misleading and when you run print comparisons, the 8k for example has better quality than the 14k. He dies a great deep dive on this. Marketing 😅
@@3Dgifts Part 2 will be the technical side of this.
@@J3DTechThank you.
Oh? It's no longer a pre-heat before print only and will now heat during print (cycling on/off based on temp hopefully?).
@@mugetzu Yes, it will maintain 30c during the entire print. 😊
@@J3DTech The perks of not being the earlier/first reviewer on the next gen. I get a true picture of the printer capability now. Yay.
@@mugetzu I never updated the firmware this is out of the box, difference between early review units and final production?
it's a nice printer but I wish companies would focus more on giving you bang for you buck, instead of adding things like air purifiers and auto-leveling to drive up the price
I'd rather have a solid sturdy printer without the bells and whistle, something more like the Saturn 3
@@felixxcatus You and me both, delete all the frill, keep it simple and solid.
review on the printer but didnt show any review on how the prints look, why would you do this in 2 videos
@@A-Eye--A Because I don't want a 30+ min video.
Part two will also have a very different feel as it will be more technical and data vs a show and tell of the printer.
@@J3DTech ok because FauxHammer said he would make a best 3d resin printer over 6 months ago and he never did, in other words dont promise any thing you cant keep in a reasonable amount of time
@@A-Eye--A I've been working on part 2 since before I even published part 1.
Originally it was going to be one but it was getting too big. And to be honest these new printers are really inconsistent adding a lot of time to the verification process.
Not that this really matters but maybe a little.
I payed for the Revo, S4U, M7Pro, and M3P that I'll be doing the reviews on. I have never received a single $ from any of the 3D printing companies for any services. When offerd, the answer is: Hell no.
I want to be free the make the content I want to make. In the end I simply hope you and others enjoy it and find helpfull.
Only 5 minutes in, but the extrusion for the platform mounting versus cast statement is a bit off. That mounting is flawed in that the single screw must retain a loose fitting in 3 dimensions with only 1 mating plane. The whole "want to look for milled / extruded parts over casted" well I don't know which printer is being referred to, but that blanket statement is just simply untrue from a mechanical engineering standpoint when the extruded part here is clearly free in all 3 axes in fitment and has no positive positioning. More important is to look for mechanisms which positively retain in multiple axes without hopes and prayers focused on a single axis, single contact point providing sufficient friction to hold the other 2 axes. "Good" materials don't compensate for poor engineering. The design of *this* bed plate / print platform can clearly be aligned on the arm differently every single print, so statements about casting flash are right out the window.
@@aaronb1138 A good experience is the Saturn 3 Ultra with a casted cup for the build arm.
Your right it's not perfect, but under the context of a desktop 3D printer it's great.
The tolerances we need to print well are 0.2mm better if you can keep 0.1mm from corner to corner.
But even 0.3mm can still be overcome. Something I have never Seen be an issue in this type of build arm / plate.
However I have seen it be an issue on the Saturn 3 Ultra with the casted parts.
Remember, we are not making pistons, turret rings or rockets going to Mars. We are talking about Chinese made desktop printers for hobbyists.