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How a Forgotten Victorian Hoax was Accidentally Revived in 2013
You often expect internet hoaxes to be modern inventions, but on the Wikipedia article about the Kingdom of Powys, one particular hoax stood standing, that was invented in 1801.
Welsh history is no stranger to inventions, hoaxes, mistakes, and mysteries, but when it comes to Teyrnllwg, its impact on the internet, and on the history of Wales, is very unusual.
Chapters:
0:00 - The Wikipedia Article
0:55 - The Medieval Kingdom that Never Existed
2:45 - The King of Teyrnllwg
5:49 - The Source
7:28 - Iolo Morganwg
11:05 - Myv. Arch.
13:14 - Full Circle
14:55 - Crusader Kings II
16:41 - Community
Sources (turn on captions):
Bartrum, P.C. (1993). A Welsh Classical Dictionary: People in History and Legend up to about A.D. 1000. The National Library of Wales.
[1] p.81-82,
[2] 82-83.
The Diocese of Chester (2017).
[3] www.chester.anglican.org/schools/school-support/the-diocese-of-chester.php
Dumville, D. (2002). Annales Cambriae, A.D. 682-954: Texts A-C in Parallel. Cambridge: University of Cambridge, Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic,
[4] p. 8-9
Forbes, A.P. (1874). Lives of S. Ninian and S. Kentigern. Edinburgh: Edmonston and Douglas.
[5] p.331.
Gunn, W. (1819). The Historia Brittonum. London: John and Arthur Arch.
[6] p.158.
Ithel, A. (1851). The Pillar of Eliseg. Archaeologia Cambrensis, 2.
[7] p. 296-297
Kenyon, D. (1991). The Origins of Lancashire. Manchester University Press.
[8] p.71.
Jones, O. (1801). The Myvyrian Archaiology of Wales - Volume II. S. Rousseau: London.
[9] p.474.
[10] Jones, T. (2015). Brut Y Tywysogion, Or Chronicle of Princes: Peniarth MS 20 Version. 2nd ed. University of Wales Press.
Lloyd, J.Y.W. (1881). The History of Powys Fadog. London: T. Richards.
[11] p. 6
Owen, R. (1897). Welsh Pool and Powys-Land. Welshpool: R. & M. Owen.
[12] p.17.
Phillimore, E.G.B. (1886). A Fragment from Hengwrt MS. No. 202. Y Cymmrodor, 7.
[13] p.119
Smith, J.R. (1864). Brut y Tywysogion. Archaeologia Cambrensis, 10.
[14] p. 8-9
Williams, G. J., (1959). Dictionary of Welsh Biography.
[15] JONES, OWEN (Owain Myfyr; 1741 - 1814)
[16] PUGHE, WILLIAM OWEN (1759 - 1835), lexicographer, grammarian, editor, antiquary, and poet.
[17] WILLIAMS, EDWARD (Iolo Morganwg, 1747 - 1826), poet and antiquary.
Williams, T. (1848). Iolo Manuscripts. Llandovery: William Rees.
[18] p.86, 476,
[19] 129, 531.
[note 1] *two texts. One of these was identical to the other, which I only realised after the video was uploaded.
daird's playthrough: forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/save-the-wales-a-769-ternyllwg-world-conquest-misadventaar.1164634/
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Music courtesy of the CZcams Audio Library:
Beginnings (Intro) - Tower of Light
Loop-Caught - Andrew Langdon
September Pass - Asher Fulero
Wolf Mother - Loopop
The Beaten Path - Andrew Langdon
Gas Giant - I Think I Can Help You
Heaven and Hell - Jeremy Blake
Fortress Europe - Dan Bodan
Average - Patrick Patrikios
Dark Matter - Chasms
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Images of, and from:
Flag of Powys, Coat of arms of Powys - AlexD, CC BY-SA 3.0, creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/, via Wikimedia Commons
Map of Medieval Wales - Owj20, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons
Powys landscape near Foel - Manfred Heyde, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Powys Cantrefi - Aetheling1125, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons
all other images are public domain, via the British Library, the National Library of Wales, and the Yale Center for British Art.
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Komentáře

  • @James-ep2bx
    @James-ep2bx Před dnem

    Thought, with the ruler-like meaning, what if the title was a adhoc title to designate a ruler without stepping on any toes of previously established powers, like Rome, but as it became more certain they were the power the need because less needed

  • @smoochyreign1361
    @smoochyreign1361 Před dnem

    Fun drinking game drink every time he says Arthur. But drive to the ER before you start.

  • @black_light9274
    @black_light9274 Před dnem

    Country ruler? Goverment official in untamed lands maybe?

  • @CartoonCastro
    @CartoonCastro Před dnem

    its not missing, its next to B

  • @mageillus
    @mageillus Před dnem

    “Never heard of it? That’s ok it hasn’t heard of you either” LMAO

  • @renlysotherlover294

    Calling it a sea is a bit of a stretch

  • @hollow_shadows
    @hollow_shadows Před dnem

    This is just the kind of stuff i like to watch, so random and meaningless yet so fun and historical!

  • @goldenraidz1090
    @goldenraidz1090 Před dnem

    Caseoh drank all the water

  • @Captain.Mystic
    @Captain.Mystic Před dnem

    I need a video that has a lesson in why you shouldnt rely on wikipedia and then ACTUALLY gives some directions on what to use and how, as its clear it gets real messy when you go even a layer down and take a book at face value, and trying to actually find a measure of truth in a web of references when the original one could be shooting guesses at random isnt very convincing either.

  • @fakeskyler2305
    @fakeskyler2305 Před dnem

    This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite history channels on youtube. Super high quality content about one specific and fairly niche topic, but I'm all here for it.

  • @jonas1015119
    @jonas1015119 Před dnem

    Inserting fanfiction into the academic journal you are editing is kind of beast. (Sort of reminds me of Apopudobalia, which is a fake ancient greek version of football found in the german standard encyclopedia of the ancient mediterranean)

  • @youtubeaccount5153

    How cool would the Union Jack be if here was a Welsh dragon on about 1/4 of it?

  • @chequereturned
    @chequereturned Před dnem

    6:50 Just to note that I think you meant when the page on Cadwaladr was first created. The Wikipedia page for the Flag of Wales is much, much older than 2013.

  • @soccerchamp0511
    @soccerchamp0511 Před dnem

    As someone who has been doing genealogical research since I was 12, this sounds a lot like what often happens on family tree websites like Ancestry. Since most people doing family history "research" are not historians they don't think about digging into sources for verification, which leads to information just being accepted at face value often even when it doesn't make sense. I have run into information just being completely made up and it still gets regurgitated across thousands of family trees, or people make connections that aren't actually there because of wishful thinking.

  • @maddiegogal7481
    @maddiegogal7481 Před dnem

    Well this was a rollercoaster😂

  • @hamishwhitehenderson5197

    I mean, at this point are most of these people really historians? I'm pretty sure that implies some sort of academic rigour, or at least it should.

  • @potetnamnbaknamn895

    13:11 Well, can you? Don't leave a man hanging like that..

  • @StarsBarsAndCheese

    Dive for þe Islands now.

  • @chrisroberts2843
    @chrisroberts2843 Před dnem

    Seems Wikipedia has been updated since this video came out. It even mentions Teyrnllwg, and traces it to Iolo Morganwg. Doesn't credit your video, however.

  • @carrot1977
    @carrot1977 Před dnem

    According to Wikipedia, it means 'lord, prince, king, or ruler' of a specific area

  • @khallkhall7237
    @khallkhall7237 Před dnem

    What about march lord? Border lord? Like a marquess? Rather than 'of the country' does 'of the wild lands' work? If it denotes people who hold back barbarians then it would be both something to take pride in...and something to not call yourself a decade or generation later when those barbarians are intermarried and/or your best trading markets? That seems to apply in all but a couple of the cases of the 15, who could be assumed to have inherited the duties, be a regent for someone else who is expected too, be rich enough to do it, or a good enough administrator to keep a border raid repelling army around? Just a thought that occured to me while watching.

  • @Koiryu
    @Koiryu Před dnem

    Annwn Ddeez Nutz.

  • @HarunRaffael
    @HarunRaffael Před dnem

    Seems to me that Edward Yolo Williams might have made an honest screwup here. Quack authors are notorious for kicking off cascades of conesequences with mere slips of the pen (or the memory) even when other stuff in their work may be actual fraud.

  • @HarunRaffael
    @HarunRaffael Před dnem

    I would rather my kingdom were the "Land of the Gleaming Hilt" than the miserable "Countryside". The Romans were godawful at names. Although, once the literal meaning is lost, "Powys" is OK.

  • @svihl666
    @svihl666 Před 2 dny

    17:27 / 18:25

  • @Amelia.Laboda
    @Amelia.Laboda Před 2 dny

    in my mind this video is #1 on trending

  • @rgnyc
    @rgnyc Před 2 dny

    Thank you for this brief but enlightening detective story! In an age of "alternative facts" it's critical to know HOW we know what we THINK we know. Described as Chasing Down Fakes it sounds exciting (which it is) but you'll just put folks to sleep if you call it "epistemology" (which it also is).

  • @patrioticanarchist991

    Teyrnllwg shall rise again!

  • @jamesanderson7243
    @jamesanderson7243 Před 2 dny

    I'm surprised he didn't drown due to the immense weight of his balls

  • @Silver_Knee
    @Silver_Knee Před 2 dny

    Watch it be something stupidly easy, like speaking a certain Welsh dialect well. Something that could easily get lost over a few generations.

  • @Bexchoklad
    @Bexchoklad Před 2 dny

    "Because i ate flesh, I am become flesh" is this an oppenheimer reference? 28:50

  • @functionatthejunction

    Its like how NNN is based off not-sea propaganda and people have no idea what they are taking part in.

  • @dannydevito4184
    @dannydevito4184 Před 2 dny

    High and low prestige languages is why French is spoken in Brussels today and not the native Dutch. Not many Dutch words made it into the French spoken in Brussels either, only a few such as the word for mayor.

  • @user-jj3ee5fn4d
    @user-jj3ee5fn4d Před 2 dny

    Meres gwy dno -edge of world , slavic language match detected*datanti 3net"

  • @TheLucanicLord
    @TheLucanicLord Před 2 dny

    There are a load of places, mostly islands, that are sort of but mot really part of somewhere else. The real problem's the rule of tincture. The current Welsh flag is a simplified version of Henry VII's (booo!) standard.

  • @eliaskuba4705
    @eliaskuba4705 Před 2 dny

    There is also evidence that the British and Saxon nobility intermarried which would further explain why British Celtic culture was partially absorbed into the Anglo Saxon culture as well and anglicized Celtic names of rulers

  • @benbeard9143
    @benbeard9143 Před 2 dny

    I think it means, the country man, or the nationalist, or the Patriot, denoting a particular dedication to ones country, maybe it means a particularly good ruler, especially one of the past.

  • @kindlytoxic1472
    @kindlytoxic1472 Před 2 dny

    it can be translated as woldy (MnE) or wealdig (OE). pretty much forest-y (of a forest, or rural area).

  • @alexross1816
    @alexross1816 Před 2 dny

    I can't quite explain why, but I'm getting Jon Bois vibes from the editing style.

  • @andyventures6574
    @andyventures6574 Před 2 dny

    Hmm. Is there archaeology on the wreakin backing up this theory? Evidence of use as a settlement beyond roman times ?

  • @LordZoth6292
    @LordZoth6292 Před 2 dny

    This dude got some mad editing skills.

  • @mosesracal6758
    @mosesracal6758 Před 2 dny

    I dont have a crumb of context about anything Wales so I watched this but still went OOOH!

  • @minnakangaspuoskari

    I literally have no knowledge nor great interest in the history of Britain (or whatever it is even called) and yet these videos are very interesting. You tell the history and the mysteries associated so well.

  • @DouglasJenkins
    @DouglasJenkins Před 2 dny

    A Wale of a tale!!

  • @nickchambers3935
    @nickchambers3935 Před 2 dny

    “It is in these farms that we can find what is now one of the symbols of Wales…” The dragon? “…the leek” Oh right, yeah

  • @Balbaar
    @Balbaar Před 3 dny

    389 million minutes ago 😂

  • @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu

    11:40 did you say "donate" instead of "denote"? 😂😂😂😂

  • @SpewnyBard
    @SpewnyBard Před 3 dny

    Maybe as chosen/proven by their country's traditions? Country-like = traditionally proven. It might just be that there was some right of passage that rulers needed to display that was almost lost, and then had a brief resurgence before being lost completely?

  • @Enriath
    @Enriath Před 3 dny

    I was not expecting to be so enthralled by this video, but damn this was great. Love the broccumentary-style editing, but with the bonus flair. ❤

  • @user-bg8cw8sp7w
    @user-bg8cw8sp7w Před 3 dny

    Wales...the land where everyone has a "thousand yard stare"..😁