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@@Udjsnak47 you totally could. But I’d be inclined to go with a Linea 2 group, like a PB. You’d have 2x plumb lines, 2x wastes, 2x water filter with two Mini’s. I think because of the steam wand location on the Mini, you’d need to space them to provide access. Also, I think there could be a little more workspace.

@@asadasdasdasda2668 hey, thanks for the comment. On the milk jugs, this is how Oliver likes to steam and pour, but aside that, with the single group the shot supply rate will never exceed the rate in which the Linea Mini can steam milk so there is no need to be steaming double quantities. Regarding the scale, we need weight for the shot volume as this is my tracker to stop the shot. Time is then a check that we are running on recipe which we dialled in for this volume to pull. If I run time only, I could be getting varying shot volumes and I’ll never know - I could be running off the recipe…. I need both to track and keep the recipe consistent.

Hey Greg. Essentially all were steamed milk. I’d say 45 milk, 5 americano. I have to say my experience in owning both of the mentioned machines is that there really is no let up in steam pressure and supply- the steam boilers are especially big. On the shift in the video, no issues with steaming at all. I would suggest both machines are commercially able, especially the GS/3. I think the only thing making them ‘home’ is the perhaps their single group footprint. LM supply Linea Mini’s to all roaster vendors at London Coffee festival and they are churning out hundreds of coffees per day on the show. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻

Thanks! 😎

I guess the DLC burrs are noisy across the board. It is expensive when you consider some competitors.

I have done dosing to cup, but I have found this to be slower and less efficient due to the extra steps involved of transfering to PF, and most of the time the distrubution isn’t as good and takes more time knocking the PF to get things even. The grinder presents the grinds in a good way to the PF that gives me a step up if you like. The Mini really doesn’t run out of steam pressure - we can steam constantly and it just keeps going! Thanks for the comment🙏🏻

That’s interesting. I don’t seem to have the problem you do, and I’m not sure why. My workflow is always 2 sprays RDT from the supplied bottle and I get zero retention without even using the bellows - I just pat the grinder on top as per the video. Apparently there is an antistatic mod coming, an ION generator for the chute.

@@jackowens_ weird, if slightly frustrating. I use a couple of sprays too. I'll look out for the antistatic mod, good to hear.

There is no way to zero or calibrate this grinder since the arrow pointer is fixed to the body.

Hey! Yes, you need to adjust the steam boiler temperature. This can be done either via the app or using the FN button on the keypad to access the menu.

Glad it was useful! 🙏🏻

thanks! 🙌🏻

I haven’t switched, more I have this for a little testing and intrigue! Thanks for watching 🙌🏻

Well, in short I prefer the DF64v. An extension to that would be - I find the workflow slightly easier (although the Timemore is still excellent, the lid and knocker are a couple more slightly fiddly steps to take) the RPM adjust is much easier and concise to use and out of the box on both, I prefer the taste of the DF64v.

The temperature was 94 degrees. 😊

The Gen 2 is solid. A few features less than the DF64v, and of course a little less cost. The main one’s I see are the different aesthetic, the brushless DC motor (quiet) with RPM control, and the removable chute is really nice! Adjustment mechanism I believe is different and the 64v comes with a slow feeder disc. I don’t think you’ll go wrong with either. Don’t forget to use the discount code in the description👍🏻☕️

@@jackowens_ awesome insight! Definitely helped with my decision. :) Thank you!

@@drwfrnndo glad it could help you 👍🏻

I haven’t found that to be the case with the chute, the magnets are quite strong and it remains secure. I have negated the bellows (perhaps you are meaning these rather than the chute?) as I find tapping the top is suffice to clear out any held grinds, but mine seem fairly secure when placed on top.

I’ve been impressed with mine! Thanks for the comment😊

Congrats on the new grinder! 👍🏻 really, the grind size should be whatever it should be, and the indicator on the DF54 is not able to be calibrated, so I’d take it with a pinch of salt. The main thing is you are able to grind for espresso and have plenty of workable range! What grinder did you have before and how are you liking your DF54 compared? 😎

@@jackowens_ that is great to hear! before i had fellow opus 2 - too much retention, didn't work well. jumped onto DF54 honestly i love it! just getting used to know when my coffee are dialled in correctly, im getting 18gr in with around 33g out around 30'ish seconds, but i noticed if i go up coarser - a bit tooo quick, one step down finer - not reaching that mark hahaha, but all is good!!

Hopefully I will make a few videos showing this soon! Thanks for the comment!

That’s really unfortunate. I’ve got both, and I have a review on my channel of the 078s, so let me know if you have any questions! 👍🏻

No problem, thanks for watching! I haven't tried any of the 83mm grinders although, I hope at some point. I suppose a couple main differences may be the 64v not only being smaller but a more discreet aesthetic, and 64mm burr options and those being cheaper. I don't think you'd go wrong with either!

Thanks! It was a grind setting of 17 with DLC burrs, calibrated to just chirp at 0.

@@jackowens_ thanks!

@@propertwb did your DF64v arrive?

@@jackowens_ unfortunately no. I ordered it from Espresso Outlet and it’s been over 2 months. I’m trying to be patient but I see a couple other companies have in in stock.

@@propertwb i got it from miicoffee without issues

Awesome! That’s cool to hear. 😊

I guess I’ll find out on the longevity. Yes, there are many distibutors to purchase from, mostly depending where you are located. Thanks for the comment!

The iPhone is made in China as well. Just saying something is made in China isn't an indicator of quality anymore. Do some research on the product itself please

It’s not often I do that. I generally always start my shots with preinfusion if I can, and as in this video, 7 seconds is my general start point for this 👍🏻

@@jackowens_ my machine it has very poor pre infusion only dispense like 7 grams then stop i cannot control it

Only control the time to start the pump but it is vibration pump so maybe it makes pre infusion by it’s own.

@@mryoyo7741 which machine do you use?

@@jackowens_ bellezza bellona

Totally! Are you running the stock DLC burrs?

Yes. Got the silver model. I would say it’s the most underrated best bang for buck grinder out there

@@ScandinavianalpscoffeeroastersI feel the same. It really punches above it’s weight!

Thanks! Do you like hearing about and seeing the dial in process or are there other things you are interested to see?🙌

@@jackowens_ i for one would love to watch the dial in process by taste and adjustments

Thanks! 🙌🏻🙏🏻

Hey, thanks for the comment! I think you will really enjoy the grinder, it hasn't left my worktop since it arrived - which burrs did you go for and what grinder are you moving from? I intend to get round to a review of the machine sometime soon too ☺

@@jackowens_ I had a Rancilio Rocky for many years. Sold it and got a K-Max about 18 months ago. After reading about and testing slow feeding a grinder, it kind of took away from the joy of hand grinding, especially for espresso. So I’m really looking forward to the 64V. Just got the DLC burrs. Want to give them a try before changing anything.

@@propertwbawesome! Yes, as mentioned in the video about their performance in the cup, I would give the DLC’s a go first- they have been very solid!

Do you change rpm more frequently? Thanks

@@mryoyo7741 not all that often when grinding for espresso - I seem to keep it at 12-1400 rpm. When moving to filter I usually knock it down to about 800rpm… but as mentioned in the video, I haven’t conducted enough testing to evaluate if it is making much difference .

Enjoy the grinder, hopefully the wait isn’t too long! 🤞🏻

@@jackowens_ I got it today!!! ,,, YAY!

No experience with the gen 2 unfortunately Aaron, but I hear good things. I will be putting up some stuff on the DF54 soon hopefully 👍🏻

The part 2 follow up video should be up soon ! 😎

😏 next video! I’ll record it tomorrow 👍🏻

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I know, right?!🤪

It is quite a unique look!

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The EG1 is an 80mm grinder vs 64mm, and around 3x the price of the ZP-1. What do you currently use? 🙂

Thanks for the comment! If I can get my hands on one I’ll be sure to drop some review videos! 👍🏻

I don’t know if it does, but I’m waiting to hear from WPM on the matter 👍🏻

WPM confirmed it’s just a straight cable with no power brick/adapter 👍🏻

@@jackowens_ so nice of you to get back to me … it is really appealing to me considering how it is easy to access the burr chamber for easy cleaning !!

@@mohelu86for sure! It’s the easiest I’ve seen. I thought the DF64v was easy to access, it just screws apart, but this is so fast. I suppose the only thing it posses is if that mechanism for quick release has sacrificed anything on alignment potential/tolerances in the system…

@@jackowens_ good point! … are you getting a review unit?

No editing of the audio, just a very busy and noisy exhibition hall! Thanks for watching🙏🏻

It was a tasty shot. 0.6ml/sec is a slow saturation for sure! This was a 19g dose taking about 25 seconds.

Hey! Thanks for checking out the video. Yes, this was to allow for the burrs to ‘chirp’ at a setting of ‘0’ and allow the grinder to be calibrated to the finest as I use it most for espresso. There has been no issues, as it limits the grinder from going any finer than the set stop point.