M Key is standard on modern name brand boards. I don't even really question it. I do however read the specs before buying, and it'll tell you. It might not say M or B, but if the spec refers to PCIe and the number of lanes then it's M. B is for Sata only slots.
It can pretty much run all the Ryzen CPU's if the bios is updated for it. For this build, it got a 3800X, but these days I would look at 5000 series for this board. It's tricky to know what CPU's the board will run until you know what Bios it comes installed with. The bios version should be listed on the box somewhere, assuming of course, you can buy the board before you buy the cpu. If you can get the bios updated on the board, it should run any AM4 cpu. I would assume a board bought now would be up to date. Worst case scenario, you have to bring it to a local shop that has an older CPU in stock to get it updated, if you don't already have a spare older CPU.
My first nvme install. I'm watching this because I was wondering if the thermal pad comes into direct contact with nvme manufacturer sticker. Its odd to remove the pad protection sticker, only to place the pad directly over another sticker, thats likely made of cheap plastic, and some form of adhesive that probably melts under the heat. Got me scratching my head about it. Thank you for clarifying this!
Yeah, the pad is suppose to contact the top of the SSD. And no the SSD sticker is not really made of cheap plastic, in fact some are foil lined to help conduct the heat. They've thought of that. The SSD's tend not to get that hot anyway, the thermal conductivity is maybe not as important with an ssd, as much as just making sure there is somewhere for the heat to go so that it can be removed.
It's one of those things I've been doing so long, I cant' quite remember why. As I recall, it has to do with the 8pin having more that enough power and the second connector being a bit of a gimmick. Also, the second connector might be good on the odd chance AMD was to release a higher wattage CPU or something like that. Like back in the bulldozer day when AMD dropped the 9000 something that needed 225 watts. You might need both connectors if you are into extreme overclocking, and I mean extreme, the kind you're not using a off the shelf AIO to do, but for a 3800X running stock, one 8pin is more than enough, and it saves having another cable to manage. AFAIK, there is no harm in connecting both if you want. I would double check the manual to be sure.
question about the power connection for the cpu. is it enouf if you connect only the 8-pin ore does the mb need that extra 4-pin as well? (top left, powersuply for CPU) :)
As I understand, it depends what you're doing with it. If your going to run a heavy duty CPU, and OC the snot out of it, with some sort of heavy duty cooling, then it could use the extra power. For normal use, with an average cpu, I've never bothered. Even my 3950 I'm running currently, I'm just using the one 8 pin.
Yeah you can get away with it, as long as it's supported. Note how I made sure there was the proper pad under the SSD to support it so it doesn't bow? IF you gave put something under it, that's safe to stick on electronics, to support the SSD, you should be able to sandwich it under the heat sink. I had to do this recently on a used board I got that was also missing the screw assy,
Yeah, it'd take all the standard sized SSD's. Not sure what other sizes it takes off the top of my head, but it doesn't really matter cause all the SSD's you'd reasonably end up with should fit.
I couldn't tell you for sure. You buying this at a store or online ? This system was a commission, not mine, so I don't have it on hand to check. It should say on the box what BIOS is on it, so you can go by that if you can see the box or that spec listed online. The way I see it, the 5000 series has been out for a while now, so unless this board is used or old stock, there is a very good chance it's 5000 ready. According to the Asus website this 5600x has been validated since BIOS 1004 from August 2020. It's a roll of the dice but with really good odds.
I have the same one but I it doesn't come with Bluetooth from everything I've searched so what's my best Bluetooth option? Should I buy a new motherboard or go with a Bluetooth USB? If I go USB route what's the best Bluetooth USB option?
Yeah, this is a non wireless board. Bluetooth is pretty easy, I guess it depends on what you want run off it, but any name brand dongle should work. I'd look for an Asus branded dongle that supports BT5.0 or higher.
i know its been a year but does having two nvme have any cons? i have a nvme right now im thinking of adding another one thats 2TB, but i’m worried it’ll change my pcie somehow haha ( thats what my brother said will happen )
Ah, it depends on the board. However, most all boards, the first NVME slots jacks right into the CPU, so anything else you add won't slow it down. The First PCIe x16 slot for your video card also jacks right into the CPU, so none of the NVME slots will effect it. The only thing is, if you have a board with Two x16 graphics slots, the second slot will often half to the total of those slots to 8x each. So if you put an NVME with an adapter in that second x16 slot it'll steal bandwidth from your GPU. Now, most motherboards so have multi NVME slots, so assuming you aren't using a fancy adapter, that's a non issue, but what happens is, that second NVME doesn't jack into the CPU, it connects to the chipset, that routes various board functions and shares bandwidth. So yeah, the second NVME might run slower. Will you notice ? Ah, not so much unless you have a crazy setup and all your PCIe is loaded up, AND, whatever you're doing uses all those addons. I got 3 NVME in my personal system, 2 of them are on chipset ports. I put anything speed priority, like my OS and Games on my main NVME, the second are just for editing, and extra. The manual will usually tell you how the PCIe is all routed, and will warn you if one will effect the other. I'd go ahead a add a second drive, it won't slow your system down, jsut what happens on that drive won't be quite as fast as the main one, in theory, in practice, it'll be hardly noticeable.
@@DATT youtube didn't notify you replied..... so late seeing this but thank you! i have the same MOBO as you are doing in this video and planning to add the same NVME just 2TB cause i've been needing more.... sadly lost my manual but was told all it does is disable my sata block 5&6 which i don't use anyway. thank you for responding! atleast now i know not to be so scared adding a second lol
Tbh, I can't remember for for but it appears so. You install a standoff in the spot that matches the length, then a screw holds it down, then you set the cover.
@@DATT I got a Ryzen 5 5600, TUF 6900 XT OC, seasonic 850w, Corsair 8x2 LPX. its a a new build so it could be anything. i was thinking it was the capacitors on this particular MB might not be the best. No i am not using HWInfo, i can give it a shot.
@@martink4975 Oh don't bother with HW info. I ask cause the one time I had a similar problem, it was cause I was running HWinfo and AIsuite at the same time. Seems having more than one program access the motherboards sensors could cause something like that. Make sure you only have one piece of monitoring software. That is, software that monitors temperature and wattage and things like that. Does the happen randomly, or under load ? And what's your SOC voltage at ?
@@DATT It happens when playing games primarily. I have not overclocked anything, so I haven't messed with any voltages. I have also been reading that Radeon drivers don't always play nice with Windows which I will investigate further, but since you said you have mostly used Asus mother boards i thought i should ask if the reboots were a Asus MB issue.
@@martink4975 Radeon drivers haven't been a problem for a while now. Not like that. I have a 6950 myself. You could check your driver version, if it's the newest "beta" labeled version. Roll back. The other time I had a similar issues was when I found out my PSU was too small for me rig, happening under load it a tell. I'd think an 850 should be enough for you.
Yeah it should work, tho I guestion why you have a 5900X ? Usually by time someone gets that level of CPU they are stepping up there motherboard to, however, if you don't need the extra IO, then you're good. If you're building a gaming rig, stick with the 5800X3D.
Actually there's 4 screw (for 1 paiR for each NVME) to lock the NVME on the box... The screw is on plastic, at first I thought that the NVME needed to bend & I found the screw... 😂...
Can anyone source replacements for those fricken spacing pads 😂😂 used the first 2 for my main SSD. Seen things on Amazon but worried about them getting hot
@@markhunter1993 Well I didn't use anything special for this. Most adhesive might get a bit loose when it gets warm. But it's getting held into place by the sandwich that is formed.
I own the Ryzen 7 3800XT and really it is suitable for recording. Though mine is the Asus B550 Plus but really.. you are comparing apples...to other apples..same shit slightly different options most I wont use or notice any difference of.
Yeah, I got him "a better board" jsut for redundancy, so I could be sure. I have noticed the onboard sound is better on the strix boards, but not really relevant for recording right. On Ryzen, I figure you basically choose your board based on what IO you're going to need. And wow, it seems I missed this comment.
Fyi, motherboard makers will have cpu support lists on their website. According to the gigabyte site, yes, if you are running bios F62. So you'll need to check that and might have to update the bios.
@@unkn0wn-me I don't think you can go wrong for that price. Like just make sure it has the features you think you want. I don't know much about other brands boards, so I can't really compare them. I opt for Strixs boards for a bit of bling, and they have better audio than the prime boards, if you're using the analog audio. Depends on your CPU and how you do audio you could scale back to a prime board if you wanted to save more money. But again, for $130, can't go wrong I think.
@@DATT Well sir, you are the best ❤ I really appreciate your assistance. Please this is the combo I'm buying; B550F + Ryzen 5600G + 8*2Gb Corsair RGB Pro 3200Mhz is good for Mobile Development and light UX design? I also play CSGo from time to time. Thank you
@@unkn0wn-me Oh, I'm not that familiar with the 5600G, if you're going to use onboard graphics then double check the video output on the board to make sure you have what you need. The higher end boards have less video ports cause they expect you'll use them with a separate video card. 5600 in general with this board should be a good start if you want to add a video card later. Make sure the ram you get is AMD compatible rated, or else it won't run at 3200 properly. I usually recommend G.Skill as my preference. I dont' know anything about Mobile Development and light UX design, nor have I ever played CSGo, so I can't vouch for them, but a 5600 with 16gb of 3200 is no slouch, so it should work fine. Worst case, you might want to upgrade your video card later.
Nah man, there it's a hole build series. Check my channel for a playlist called "Claymore Daw Build". There should be a link to it at the end of the vid.
@@142vids Oh could be. Some SSD's are double sided. They have chips on both sides, hence thicker, so they may not need to pads. The SSD's I was working with are single sided, so there is nothing to support the other side without the pads, and the heatsink puts too much pressure on it. It's the kind of thing you have to call when you see it.
Thanks mate, i was so unsure if the b550-b560 had B keys or M keys for the M2 socket, now i can safely buy my black friday SSD and install it!
M Key is standard on modern name brand boards. I don't even really question it.
I do however read the specs before buying, and it'll tell you. It might not say M or B, but if the spec refers to PCIe and the number of lanes then it's M. B is for Sata only slots.
Thanks for informative and funny vid 🤣 Your both a computer technichian and a comedian , not bad :D
Thanks !
what type of ryzen cpu did you use and does asus use a certain type of cpu?? i want to make sure i get the right one. Great vid btw!!
It can pretty much run all the Ryzen CPU's if the bios is updated for it.
For this build, it got a 3800X, but these days I would look at 5000 series for this board.
It's tricky to know what CPU's the board will run until you know what Bios it comes installed with.
The bios version should be listed on the box somewhere, assuming of course, you can buy the board before you buy the cpu. If you can get the bios updated on the board, it should run any AM4 cpu.
I would assume a board bought now would be up to date. Worst case scenario, you have to bring it to a local shop that has an older CPU in stock to get it updated, if you don't already have a spare older CPU.
That was very helpful. Thanks.
Your Welcome !
My first nvme install.
I'm watching this because I was wondering if the thermal pad comes into direct contact with nvme manufacturer sticker.
Its odd to remove the pad protection sticker, only to place the pad directly over another sticker, thats likely made of cheap plastic, and some form of adhesive that probably melts under the heat.
Got me scratching my head about it.
Thank you for clarifying this!
Yeah, the pad is suppose to contact the top of the SSD. And no the SSD sticker is not really made of cheap plastic, in fact some are foil lined to help conduct the heat. They've thought of that. The SSD's tend not to get that hot anyway, the thermal conductivity is maybe not as important with an ssd, as much as just making sure there is somewhere for the heat to go so that it can be removed.
Hey, you said you would only use 1 of the psu connections. Why only one? Would you not need/want both?
It's one of those things I've been doing so long, I cant' quite remember why.
As I recall, it has to do with the 8pin having more that enough power and the second connector being a bit of a gimmick.
Also, the second connector might be good on the odd chance AMD was to release a higher wattage CPU or something like that.
Like back in the bulldozer day when AMD dropped the 9000 something that needed 225 watts.
You might need both connectors if you are into extreme overclocking, and I mean extreme, the kind you're not using a off the shelf AIO to do, but for a 3800X running stock, one 8pin is more than enough, and it saves having another cable to manage.
AFAIK, there is no harm in connecting both if you want. I would double check the manual to be sure.
question about the power connection for the cpu. is it enouf if you connect only the 8-pin ore does the mb need that extra 4-pin as well? (top left, powersuply for CPU) :)
As I understand, it depends what you're doing with it. If your going to run a heavy duty CPU, and OC the snot out of it, with some sort of heavy duty cooling, then it could use the extra power. For normal use, with an average cpu, I've never bothered. Even my 3950 I'm running currently, I'm just using the one 8 pin.
@@DATT Okay cool thx alot for the answer!
I have the same model motherboard and there is no M2 SSD Screw. Is there a problem? Is the heat plate enough to hold it?
Yeah you can get away with it, as long as it's supported. Note how I made sure there was the proper pad under the SSD to support it so it doesn't bow?
IF you gave put something under it, that's safe to stick on electronics, to support the SSD, you should be able to sandwich it under the heat sink.
I had to do this recently on a used board I got that was also missing the screw assy,
i have a quick question, what size m.2 ssd does this board use? i assume 2280?
Yeah, it'd take all the standard sized SSD's. Not sure what other sizes it takes off the top of my head, but it doesn't really matter cause all the SSD's you'd reasonably end up with should fit.
Ok thanks:)@@DATT
Is there a part 2 to this?
Kinda, it's part of a short build series. "Claymore DAW Build", check the Playlists on my channel.
hello greetings friend I need to know if this already comes with the updated bios to put a rayzen 5 5600x?
I couldn't tell you for sure. You buying this at a store or online ?
This system was a commission, not mine, so I don't have it on hand to check.
It should say on the box what BIOS is on it, so you can go by that if you can see the box or that spec listed online.
The way I see it, the 5000 series has been out for a while now, so unless this board is used or old stock, there is a very good chance it's 5000 ready. According to the Asus website this 5600x has been validated since BIOS 1004 from August 2020. It's a roll of the dice but with really good odds.
I have the same one but I it doesn't come with Bluetooth from everything I've searched so what's my best Bluetooth option? Should I buy a new motherboard or go with a Bluetooth USB? If I go USB route what's the best Bluetooth USB option?
Yeah, this is a non wireless board.
Bluetooth is pretty easy, I guess it depends on what you want run off it, but any name brand dongle should work. I'd look for an Asus branded dongle that supports BT5.0 or higher.
i know its been a year but does having two nvme have any cons? i have a nvme right now im thinking of adding another one thats 2TB, but i’m worried it’ll change my pcie somehow haha ( thats what my brother said will happen )
Ah, it depends on the board. However, most all boards, the first NVME slots jacks right into the CPU, so anything else you add won't slow it down.
The First PCIe x16 slot for your video card also jacks right into the CPU, so none of the NVME slots will effect it. The only thing is, if you have a board with Two x16 graphics slots, the second slot will often half to the total of those slots to 8x each. So if you put an NVME with an adapter in that second x16 slot it'll steal bandwidth from your GPU.
Now, most motherboards so have multi NVME slots, so assuming you aren't using a fancy adapter, that's a non issue, but what happens is, that second NVME doesn't jack into the CPU, it connects to the chipset, that routes various board functions and shares bandwidth. So yeah, the second NVME might run slower. Will you notice ? Ah, not so much unless you have a crazy setup and all your PCIe is loaded up, AND, whatever you're doing uses all those addons.
I got 3 NVME in my personal system, 2 of them are on chipset ports. I put anything speed priority, like my OS and Games on my main NVME, the second are just for editing, and extra.
The manual will usually tell you how the PCIe is all routed, and will warn you if one will effect the other. I'd go ahead a add a second drive, it won't slow your system down, jsut what happens on that drive won't be quite as fast as the main one, in theory, in practice, it'll be hardly noticeable.
@@DATT youtube didn't notify you replied..... so late seeing this but thank you! i have the same MOBO as you are doing in this video and planning to add the same NVME just 2TB cause i've been needing more.... sadly lost my manual but was told all it does is disable my sata block 5&6 which i don't use anyway.
thank you for responding! atleast now i know not to be so scared adding a second lol
@@SENPXL Oh yeah, that's is a thing, and it's somewhat smart of the board design, to drop those ports instead of something else.
It’s been a year but does the ssd need a screw to hold the ssd down or can u put cover straight back on
Tbh, I can't remember for for but it appears so. You install a standoff in the spot that matches the length, then a screw holds it down, then you set the cover.
@@DATT okay it’s just my ssd didn’t seem to come with a pack of screws so will have to buy on if that’s the case
@@Dr1zouuu Oh, the screws come with the motherboard, not the SSD. I've bought boards used that were missing them, pain in the ass.
Where are the rest of the videos for this board?
Playlist on my channel called "Claymore DAW Build 2021"
Dose this board have a random reboot(no BSOD) issue or did i just get unlucky? Tested everything RAM GPU etc, now the only option left is this board.
What other hardware do you have ? How big is youre PSU ? And are you using HWinfo ?
@@DATT I got a Ryzen 5 5600, TUF 6900 XT OC, seasonic 850w, Corsair 8x2 LPX. its a a new build so it could be anything. i was thinking it was the capacitors on this particular MB might not be the best.
No i am not using HWInfo, i can give it a shot.
@@martink4975 Oh don't bother with HW info. I ask cause the one time I had a similar problem, it was cause I was running HWinfo and AIsuite at the same time. Seems having more than one program access the motherboards sensors could cause something like that. Make sure you only have one piece of monitoring software. That is, software that monitors temperature and wattage and things like that.
Does the happen randomly, or under load ? And what's your SOC voltage at ?
@@DATT It happens when playing games primarily. I have not overclocked anything, so I haven't messed with any voltages. I have also been reading that Radeon drivers don't always play nice with Windows which I will investigate further, but since you said you have mostly used Asus mother boards i thought i should ask if the reboots were a Asus MB issue.
@@martink4975 Radeon drivers haven't been a problem for a while now. Not like that. I have a 6950 myself. You could check your driver version, if it's the newest "beta" labeled version. Roll back.
The other time I had a similar issues was when I found out my PSU was too small for me rig, happening under load it a tell. I'd think an 850 should be enough for you.
Is there a second part? I can't find it
Claymore Daw build:
czcams.com/play/PLr1eiFOCdnl8wmsrHKnZKUTAIoSS6v-h4.html
What M.2 nvme do you reccomend for this board
I like WD. SN850x or the 770x if you want more space for the same money.
Anyone had a problem that their pads didnt stick at all and isnit smart to put some kind of glue on them ?
Is it suitable for ryzen 9 5900 x and rtx 3070 twin edge ?🙂
Yeah it should work, tho I guestion why you have a 5900X ?
Usually by time someone gets that level of CPU they are stepping up there motherboard to, however, if you don't need the extra IO, then you're good. If you're building a gaming rig, stick with the 5800X3D.
Would u recommend me getting the b550 A or b550 F
Functionally they're pretty much the same. So it comes down to which colour, or price your prefer.
Will this board work with 2x16gb 3600mhz ram?
Oh yeah, with 3000 or 5000 series CPU. Just make sure you get the ram that's advertised as for AMD.
hi I'm buying the same motherboard, which SSD do you recommend to put them?
Pretty much the one I use in the video. I like Western Digital. I use the SN850 1tb.
Actually there's 4 screw (for 1 paiR for each NVME) to lock the NVME on the box... The screw is on plastic, at first I thought that the NVME needed to bend & I found the screw... 😂...
Hmm, I don't recall . . .
Helppp is this board better then the ASUS AMD B550 ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX Motherboard
A quick look at the specs seems like they are the same board, but different colors.
The should perform the same.
@@DATT 😊 thank you
Can anyone source replacements for those fricken spacing pads 😂😂 used the first 2 for my main SSD. Seen things on Amazon but worried about them getting hot
Yeah, it's one of those things that might be super common but you don't know what they are called.
Why are you worried abotu them getting hot ?
@@DATT i just don't want to use a type of rubber pad that has a heat sensitive adhesive
@@markhunter1993 Well I didn't use anything special for this. Most adhesive might get a bit loose when it gets warm. But it's getting held into place by the sandwich that is formed.
Do they require you to screw down the SSD to the motherboard as I am going to end up making it in to a catapult.
Ah yeah, there should be a screw kit in the box with the accessories.
Gen2 port is weird USB Port or ARGB.
I'm not sure what you mean.
I own the Ryzen 7 3800XT and really it is suitable for recording. Though mine is the Asus B550 Plus but really.. you are comparing apples...to other apples..same shit slightly different options most I wont use or notice any difference of.
Yeah, I got him "a better board" jsut for redundancy, so I could be sure.
I have noticed the onboard sound is better on the strix boards, but not really relevant for recording right. On Ryzen, I figure you basically choose your board based on what IO you're going to need.
And wow, it seems I missed this comment.
Nice hat.
Thanks, I like it.
what are the differences between the A and F models?
I was asked this before, when I looked it up, it seemed they are they same board, only difference I could find was the colour.
@@DATT Thanks man :)
@@kraljevokv6619 👍
@@DATT what do you think can i put ryzen 5 5600 on
gigabyte B450 aorus pro, will it work? I have that motherboard?! Pls
Fyi, motherboard makers will have cpu support lists on their website.
According to the gigabyte site, yes, if you are running bios F62. So you'll need to check that and might have to update the bios.
B550F and B550A what's the difference ?
Note : B550A is cheaper 8$
I was asked this before, when I looked it up, it seemed they are they same board, only difference I could find was the colour.
@@DATT
At 130$ B550F is the best choice or there's a better one ?
@@unkn0wn-me I don't think you can go wrong for that price. Like just make sure it has the features you think you want.
I don't know much about other brands boards, so I can't really compare them. I opt for Strixs boards for a bit of bling, and they have better audio than the prime boards, if you're using the analog audio.
Depends on your CPU and how you do audio you could scale back to a prime board if you wanted to save more money.
But again, for $130, can't go wrong I think.
@@DATT
Well sir, you are the best ❤ I really appreciate your assistance.
Please this is the combo I'm buying; B550F + Ryzen 5600G + 8*2Gb Corsair RGB Pro 3200Mhz is good for Mobile Development and light UX design? I also play CSGo from time to time.
Thank you
@@unkn0wn-me Oh, I'm not that familiar with the 5600G, if you're going to use onboard graphics then double check the video output on the board to make sure you have what you need. The higher end boards have less video ports cause they expect you'll use them with a separate video card. 5600 in general with this board should be a good start if you want to add a video card later. Make sure the ram you get is AMD compatible rated, or else it won't run at 3200 properly.
I usually recommend G.Skill as my preference. I dont' know anything about Mobile Development and light UX design, nor have I ever played CSGo, so I can't vouch for them, but a 5600 with 16gb of 3200 is no slouch, so it should work fine.
Worst case, you might want to upgrade your video card later.
So after the m2 install and ram you left us hanging. Lol.
Nah man, there it's a hole build series. Check my channel for a playlist called "Claymore Daw Build".
There should be a link to it at the end of the vid.
You're literally the only person I've seen using the pads. Why again? I got the B550-F gaming mobo.
The heatsink put uneven pressure on the SSD stick, causes it to bow or bend. They seem to work like this, but for how long ?
@@DATT I read the manual and it says not to use it in this case (for 980).
@@142vids Oh could be. Some SSD's are double sided. They have chips on both sides, hence thicker, so they may not need to pads. The SSD's I was working with are single sided, so there is nothing to support the other side without the pads, and the heatsink puts too much pressure on it.
It's the kind of thing you have to call when you see it.
Im Just sitting here my first completely Build and "why the Fuck it's not working" and Know I now it's not on me 🤔😂👍😓
Did you figure out what went wrong ?
@@DATT yes thanks to You
oh fuck bud ! thats a nice peal there eh ?
Oh damn, I don't even remember what I peeled, haha.
Fucking hell
What's the matter ?
aids
Oh no !
👎👎
Oh, you spelled 👍👍 wrong.
Does it have wifi? 🥲
The motherboard? If ur talking about the motherboard, then I don’t think so, but there might be b550 motherboards that do have built in wifi
This one, no, I don't believe it does.