One FATAL Flaw - Acer Predator Orion 7000 Review! (w/ Benchmarks) [4K]
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Many people have been anticipating my review of the Acer Predator Orion 7000 and here it is! Including the good, the bad, and the ugly...
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Chapters:
0:00-2:33 Intro & Spec
2:33-3:26 Bios
3:26-4:37 Windows 11, CPU-Z & GPU-Z
4:37-6:52 Acer PerdatorSense Software
6:52-7:25 Gaming Benchmarks
7:25-7:44 Cinebench Benchmark
7:44-8:16 Fan Control Issues
8:16-9:19 Acers Repeated Mistake
9:19-9:47 Infomation From Orion 7000 Buyer
9:47-11:07 Issues & Thermal Throttling
11:07-11:57 Fan Ramps & System Volume
11:57-14:04 Testing to Demonstrate & Other People's Issues
14:07-15:15 Thread of Unhappy Buyers & Their Benchmark Scores
15:15-15:45 Acer Annoucment before CPU's released
15:45-16:52 Price Comparison to Other Pre-Builts
16:52-17:25 This vs Custom Build
17:25-17:53 My Smaller Niggles
17:53-18:15 More Buyer's Thoughts
18:15-19:13 Final Thoughts
19:13-20:38 ACER PLEASE & Outro
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I hear what you are saying. I bought one for the only purpose of gaming and i don't have any complaints other than that yes they could have put a 240mm water cooling fans on it.
@JordanAsh thank you so much for your review on this pre-built pc.I am surprised at the results and this definitely shows lack of attention of acer engineers and quality control towards cooling issue and thus noise.
Glad I could help!
Glad that I watched this!
Can you recommend a great pre-built desktop for gaming? Or maybe your favorite builder
Lucky! What country are you in?
Lmfao when you turned on the turbo jets in the pc I kinda lost my shit😂😂😂 You are clear for takeoff!
Just got the PC today and the temperatures seem fine to me while running intense games for a decent period of time. The fans are extremely loud while on the "gaming setting" and do cool the system pretty quick but having them on automatic mode is perfect and it keeps the system cool with low noise. For the price, I paid 2500 GPB roughly 3,000$ I would expect to have a heatsink on my ram. Apart from the RAM being low quality, the machine seems decent enough for the price though there may be better options.
Yeah if you're playing games that's mainly GPU, so the fans won't ramp up too much. Once you do something more CPU intensive then you'll get the problems
@@jordanash What is interesting is I just ran cinebench for around 10 minutes and the fans never got as loud as in the video on the automatic profile for the fans. My temperatures did reach the same as yours in the video at 75-90c range. Idle I am at the 45-30c range, room temperature is around 15c
My room at the time of filming was around 25, plus the temps went to boiling so that's why mine kicked up.
@@jordanash Yeah, after a day of usage I couldn't recommend it to somebody for the price I feel like you could get much more quality components it will do for now. Nice video anyways.
Yeah it's a shame, especially as you could get a build with much better quality parts for the same price. Thank you!
I picked up a refurb one in november for a cheap $3,699 CAD (2215GBP) They swapped the i9 for a 12700k which helps a bit with thermals.
Hope Acer sends you the updated Predator Orion i9 13900K, RTX 4090. To see if they have made the improvements on cooling, noise fan curves. From the pics it looks like they have. Top content, thanks.
I think the Orion X has improvements, but time will tell. Thank you.
Very informative review. Glad I viewed as I’m looking to get into PC gaming and don’t have a clue! Can you recommend any prebuilt PC companies or brands?
Ah that's lucky. What region are you in?
@@jordanash thanks Jordan, I'm in North West England, Cheshire. I'm happy to get a custom built pc but not sure best process or if there are any good prebuilt PC's available. Cheers
Ah in that case I'd recommend Scan. Either to buy components if you're happy to build yourself, or for prebuilt the have X3S PCs for all kinds of budgets. www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom/gaming
@@jordanash Hi! i have kind off I have the same prob as this guy but i dont live in the UK in live in Norway and i looked at ur site that u recommended and is the same price like this pc! But my question is that, if u know anywhere else i can find this type of pre-built pc specs, price etc. That shipp to Norway or Sweden?
Thank you for the review. Is now on sale for 2199 Eur . But the i7 / 3080 what you think about that price tag it is still expensive for this prebuilt pc ?
I know you was not asking me and probably already heard this plenty of times but just try a custom build. At least if you have a micro center near you. If you do have a micro center near you you could get a decently better pc for the price of 2100. This is a solid pre build but the noise is just a very major flaw.
I'd mirror this comment really, micro centre or a prebuild with higher quality components is definitely the way to go.
Oof I just bought one after seeing some glowing reviews. It was on a huge sale so I got it. Hopefully they changed that after being over a year. Thanks so much for the input. Just using it for gaming and not really anything else so I won't be pushing it.
They haven't changed anything on it, only the new models. Hopefully if you're only gaming on it, it won't need to take off frequently.
Salut.....j'ai aussi installé un SSD M2 de 4 générations dans l'emplacement vide, mais cela ne fonctionne pas....l'ordinateur ne trouve pas le SSD neuf. Faut il aller dans le BIOS ? "je n'arrive pas a y aller" et un SSD suffit juste de l'installer et rien de plus ....ou je me trompe , si tu as des informations serait heureux de trouver de l'aide
Just came across you’re channel … thankfully I did!
I was hovering over the “purchase now” button for 2 days not fully understanding why I never bought it as it has some big hitting hardware etc
I’ve been sim racing since 2018 but I will admit I have very basic knowledge of PC’s
Thanks mate for this highly intuitive review.
I’m in the UK can you point me in the right direction for gaming pc’s if you ever happen to see this comment.
Gracias
Glad I could help! I'd recommend Scan X3S that I mentioned in the video - www.scan.co.uk/3xs
@@jordanash thanks
Anytime
Just bought one for 750 on ebay with a broken front glass panel. Couldn’t be happier with it 😂
This *exact* spec?
Thanks for the review! Do you think the cooling would be appropriate for the i7 12700K and RTX3080 version?
No problem! I personally wouldn't run the 12700k with anything less than a 240mm AIO
@@jordanash Thank you for your response! How easy would it be to switch the current one with a 240mm AIO (or better)? Do you think it would solve entirely the main flaw you saw?
I *think* it would be pretty straightforward, but you shouldn't need to have to
I buying the same model due to a sale price. Did you find an AOI that fits without modifying anything?
Do you think that upgrading the top fan and AIO would solve the loud fan noises ?
Stop buying pre-assembled PC is the only way to solve loud fan or high temp problems bud.
Tha fans become loud if you set it to gaming mode. But in my experience, I just set it to auto mode. The system is so quiet the the system runs cool. One key takeaway is that the CPU stock cooler is not good enough as my CPU temperature would go up to 90-100C when gaming. I replaced it with a Noctua U12S and my CPU now never gets past 70C. 60C on average when gaming.
Hey Jordan! i like the review and due to that am willing to compromise and maybe with your help put together a solution for a pc i am planning to buy its the same as in your review but with i9 13900KF, geforce rtx 4090 i do like acer and it's simplicity and the options that i could use in the future to upgrade due to that i am still willing to invest some money on it my goal is primarily Gaming i would like to buy it now and run it for a couple of years without thinking of buying another one so my question is should i upgrade something with this setup i just wrote like the Fans to keep up the performance and low temperatures for a longer time and which ones should i choose for this setup ty!
Just leaving this comment so other people don't think I've ignored it 😅 Answered this question externally off of CZcams ☺
I got my Predator 7000 (same build as the one in the video) today. I immediately did all the updates, ran the first benchmarks and played Sons of the Forest in 1080p with Ultra settings (the game is not yet optimized). I consistently had 73-77 degrees Celsius on the CPU while playing. Is this normal and okay in the long run? The fans were not too loud, absolutely acceptable in my opinion. I don't know much about PC hardware in general btw.
It's hot, but I'd expect that with the lack of cooling. That's fine yeah. it won't be too loud as it'll be using the GPU over the CPU.
@@jordanash Thanks for the answer!
No worries
@JordanAsh Hi there,
I would like to upgrade my Orion 7000 PO7 640 (now running i9 12900K and Nvidia RTX 3090) with the new RTX4080. Are the motherboard and case compatible? What else do I need to swap? Power supply I suppose?
Thanks!
Hey! Motherboard will be fine, as far as I can remember you might not be able to use the "Ice chamber" or whatever it's called. PSU I'd upgrade yeah, in my opinion it's too low anyway. I'd go for a 1200w personally. Either using the adapter, or getting an ATX 3.0 psu with a direct 16pin cable.
So I got this system for $2000 Canadian NEW - full warranty + 1year CC warranty ($1.4K USD or 1.3K Euro) - 3090, 12gen-i7, 32gb ddr5, -- even prebuilt is more expensive currently as of March 2024. so far happy with it. all AAA games on max and GPU only going at 75C max.. using default non-gaming Fan profile. so far after 2 weeks no regrets. The fans only go this loud if you use the 'gaming' profile. which I don't. no problems so far.
You've got the i7 which has a lower TDP than the i9, so it won't need to ramp the fans that much. Also on this, the fans ramp in the non-gaming profile too, plus if you're only gaming the CPU is unlikely to get hot enough to need to ramp the fans anyway.
Hi I have the predator orion 5000 version with a po5-640 motherboard does the system support XMP if I was to to stall another 16gb ram?
I honestly can't remember if it does or not. I know the speed of the ram wasn't fast, but can't remember if it was XMP set, or done manually.
I just got this today and it keeps shutting down. Anyone has any idea? I didn't change the fan option to gaming as its too loud. It's on auto and I was playing League of Legends. It shut itself down in the middle of the game.
Sounds like thermal protection kicking in.
For all watching, this PC is upgradable, radiator fans, ssd, sata sd, graphics card, etc. Prebuilts with future upgrade compatibility is extremely hard to come by, and Acer made this for that purpose aswell
It might not suit all 40 series cards though, if I recall it only has two 8-pin PCIe, which wouldn't be enough for the three 8-pin to 12vhpwr adapters that some cards require.
In terms of upgradability, system integrator prebuilts are a better option as they all use standard parts, so they're automatically upgradable, unlike most OEMs like Dell, Acer, HP Etc.
Thank you, was going to buy this. That will not happen after watching this video.
Glad to help!
I thought about buying it but after hearing about the Loud Fan Problem I kinda think imma stay away from this one -_-
It's a real shame as most of the other things are good
Considered buying this until i watched this, thanks for this informative video, I'll look into some other brands 🤯
What did you end up going with?
you wont find another one like this for the price it just went for, Was selling for 2k at microcenter, now its back at 3500. You missed out over 1 video, i have one and its the best gaming pc
@@MBJ7King Have you done anything for the fan noise?
I honestly don’t know what to do I was get a PC but then it got discontinued so then curry’s got this one for the same price of the other one and I thought I was lucky until now any advice.
Like I said in the video, look at X3S or OCUK for pre builts. Much better quality
I got one of those a 4 months ago. I bought a new case, and I had to buy more fans and 360mm aio
That sucks, you shouldn't need to change anything to have a working system
I have the 5000, with an i7 12700f and rtx 3080. There is room for a 240mm radiator but not with any fans attached, as the fan connectors on the motherboard are in the way. I'm new to pc life, so not sure if you can get lower profile radiators that will fit. I attempted to use a Be Quiet silent loop 2.
Hmm, as far as I know that's a standard 28mm thickness, that's odd
I bought the same PC (i7 122700f + rtx3080) and I managed to install a MSI P240 with a challenging adjustments (the CPU bracket is a pain, but I managed to install the cooler without changing the brackets) then I opened the top cover and rose the grill up putting some rubbers under need and use some long screws.
Finally the system is perfect, I ran some stress tests for over 20 mins and CPU temp didn't go over 72C with minimum fan RPM (600-700).
It's a shame that they didn't put the proper cooling at first place and why they designed everything to perfectly prevent you to upgrade it. Otherwise the system is perfect. I use it for intensive simulations that requires 100% CPU usage for hours (+20 hrs) and so far everything is fine.
Good luck with installing the Cooler though.
@@alitousi9618 Thanks for this info. I'll give this a try.
I ordered the 5000 too. Does it support wifi6?
@@dhurogizta Yes it does
I have this exact PC however i cannot get the predator sense application to work at all, i need help as this has been bothering me for quite some time
Have you tried running it as administrator?
@@jordanash i have, the icon still doesn’t show anywhere
Can the fans be replaced by some quiet ones?
Yes
My english is not the Best but can i buy this PC and install other cooler and then is the PC not more so loud?
You can, but you shouldn't need to change anything
Will this solve the fan issues ?
MSI MAG Series CORELIQUID P240 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm Radiator, Dual 120mm PWM Fans, LGA1700 and AM5 Ready
It should, but you shouldn't need to replace something to have a functioning product.
@@jordanash I completely understand sadly it's the case so knowing 100$ is all that's needed to fix the fan issue I don't mind that much. It could be much worse. It's not an excuse but theirs a fairly simple solution to the problem.
@@taxi615 How did it work out for you?
@jaredyp ended up getting an asus system never had 1 issue last 2yrs
Does the Acer Predator Orion with a RTX 3080 and I7 have the same problem?
They all have the same cooler so pretty much, although in theory the i7 won't get *as* hot, but it certainly won't be cool
Wish I would have seen this video before... bought my one exact same spec 3 days ago... and its slower then my 10 years old pc... everything seems slow and fps on games is around 7fps... all drivers all updates done... just completely out of ideas what's wrong with it and about to throw the thing through the window :(
Have you tried a reinstall?
Hi Jordan, I’m based in the UK and am on a budget of around £1500-£3000, I was interested in this pc but after this video I’m not so sure, what brand would you recommend for a good gaming pc, I mainly want to run red dead 2, rust and warzone2, I want good performance and cooling, I have a 4K 144fps monitor so a good pc that can run 4K would be ideal maybe a i9 and a 3080-90. What brand would you recommend?
Hey! I'd go for something from CyberPower mate, I've just done a video on one of them. That one is a bit more expensive than that budget, but they have great ones within that amount.
@@jordanash thank you 🙏
No probs
What would you recommend me to buy gaming desktop with 2000-2400budgets? I tried cyberpc with 4070ti died within 14months...
2000-2400 of what currency?
Yeah I quit building and playing games on PC long ago. All of them just suck these days, bad thermals, fans, heatsinks, noise levels through the roofs etc. I stick with my Series X which you can't hear AT ALL, and my PS5 which sounds like a slight hum even under load. So yeah PC gaming days for me are OVER. Especially after seeing this video, I WAS slightly considering something cheaper. You made that NOT happen and saved me some good money. THANK YOU!!
This is a bad example of a prebuilt, let alone one from a reputable brand. You could easily build an epic silence focused PC, even on a budget. Most systems will have *some* fan noise because they have better/more cooling capabilities over consoles which run hot because they generally have just one or two fans.
Hi Jordan, BestBuy was selling for 2k CAD (around 1150 GBP) a version with i7-12700k cpu and liquid cooling system along with the 3090 rtx. Do you think that would be good value?
I scooped up one of the last ones as a dedicated sim rig. It'll be here in a week. I play on loud enough volume so it should be able to drown out any fan noise.
Yeah that doesn't seem too bad, if you're primarily gaming it'll be alright. Also that's a generation older too, so hopefully won't be as hot.
@@jordanash thanks for your reply, will see if they restock before going back to original price (double that)
I'd see what cooler it has first. Also, I'm sure you could build a better cooled system for the same price.
@@locoghoul Would recommend the system. Tested out Assetto Corsa Competizione on all maxed out settings at 4K on an Odyssey G9 95SC with a consistent 120FPS. Fan noise is nothing but a whisper.
My Lenovo Legion T5 Desktop i5 with 1660 Super does the same and it’s very annoying 😞. Recently it would freeze and lock up with Windows 10 Home, upgrading to Windows 11 solved the problem but fan noise was still intolerable 😢
Hi Jordan, I'm currently looking at the 5,000 version at around £2,000. I plan to play diablo 4 on it in June when it releases, and potentially Apex, I'm just wondering would that system ramp up and run like a jet liner playing these games?.... Please let me know if it would be a viable PC to play those games on? My PC will be in the living room so I can't have it sounding like it's going to take off 😂 please let me know your opinion / recommendation rig to buy 👍
Hey dude, I would recommend checking out something from CyberPower/X3S, PC Specialist instead. This will be too loud I think. Even though most games are obviously using the graphics card, it's still going to kick up the fans for the CPU every now and again.
@@jordanash spotted a fusion ultimate on PC specialist for £240 more, would this be more suitable? It's a lot of money to invest and I'd hate to not be able to use it due to noise/disturbing my Mrs watching TV 😂
That's a lot better yeah. I'd swap the cooler for a 240mm AIO, that'll bring the sound down more, plus give you better cooling.
Saved me from buying this pc, thanks!
Glad I could help!
what is a good price for the i7 moddle? i paid $2300 for a new one, ive had my 7000 for maybe 6 months and its holding up fine. id like to replace the aio cooler with a 240mm and upgrade the ram to better quality sticks.
I don't think there is a good price to be honest, only if it was super cheap then worth the extra for a 240mm AIO
@@jordanash what do you think the cost of parts would be if i built something to similar specs? the main reason i went with this rather than building was the discount.
You could probably find other systems that are already built for the same price, but price related to building it I honestly don't know without spending a few hours specing up a whole system.
Got this for 2k usd on sale at microcenter due to the 4080 being discontinued. Now its back to 3500 USD anywhere and all of you missed out, This PC is top notch and performs very well. You just need a 4k monitor, i have a 1080p 164hz and its not enough for the power
Is that the i9 version?
It is I7 and is still available at microcenter..
i7 won't be as hot as this i9, but I think they still use the same cooler. Might be fine if just gaming.
Being the only detailed and comprehensive review on YT, would've been great if you could've/could do the 240mm AIO install, and maybe use a AIO which connects via USB headers 2.0 - showing the process of converting one of the two 3.0 USB headers on the motherboard.
Yeah I would of had I had the time, this was on rotation with other media unfortunately. I've already asked for the 13th Gen version though, so will be trying it with that one.
@@jordanash Nice Jordan, hope you get one to review! - So i recently got one of these, i game at 4K and compared to the Aurora R13 of the same spec and 'cryotek' cooling, this runs cooler. The gaming preset for the fans is loud, for some reason all the fan RPMs go higher then even if you set them to max on custom, i opt for a custom setup when gaming at around 80% intake and aio fan speed, with GPU on auto - I will hold fire on getting 13th gen i9 until your review so i can evaluate what AIO to pair it with.
So would you replace the Aurora with one of these?
@@jordanash 100% mate, it's a world of difference - i do get where you're coming from when comparing it to a custom built gaming rig, but against other prebuilts is where this PC shines, Aurora series having very limited upgrade options as they have a proprietary power supply meaning no other power supply will fit, same with the case on them - i actually put the RTX 3090 ( Dell OEM ) into this PO7-640 (which came with a RTX 3080, i9 12900k currys config ) and it fits perfectly on the riser, as its a two slot i did have to add another plate but there wasn't any issues, also going by the Predator forums if the power supply in this is upgraded a 4090 will fit and work - so that gives further future proofing.
Why not get a custom prebuilt at that point? Something from Scan or OCUK? You can get the AIO you want and can easily swap out parts in the future.
I don't see the point in getting this with the extra cost as it's branded, and then adding an AIO when you could just get the fixed solution straight out.
Hi! Do u know if the Orion 5000 has the same issues? I am tempted to buy one with i7 12700 , rtx 3080 but after seeing this idk man..
I *think* all the coolers are the same, so given this is using a 120mm for the 12900k, I doubt the 12700k would be much cooler unfortunately
Out of the box u need to change the CPU cooler with a 240mm Liquid Cooler and then the system is perfect. I bought the Orion 5000 i7 12700 +rtx 3080few weeks ago on sale (1700 GBP) and added a cooler (which is very challenging) and the system is working amazing.
All the specs are great (the GPU and DDR5 Ram and the 12th gen Intel) the only issue is cooler and it solved with upgrading to Liquid Cooler 240mm so I always have minimum Fan speed.
Just make sure to get a Cooler compatible with LGA 1700 brackets.
If you can upgrade the cooler I totally recommend it (because of the good price) otherwise it's gonna be a bit too hot or noisy.
The problem is you shouldn't need to change anything in the first place
@@jordanash Yes, I totally agree with you and I only bought that because of the Sale price (agreed with my budget).
In fact, Acer advertise this as upgradable system, but they have done everything to make sure upgrading be difficult.
1- They have mounted the motherboard high enough that a standard radiator and fan won't fit. So I had to remove the top tray and use long fan screws to lift the radiator away from the motherboard.
2- The CPU brackets are slightly different from standard AIO cooler brackets so you need to remove the entire motherboard to change the back brackets completely (or I managed to use some extra parts on the cooler's screws so I didn't remove the motherboard and kept the acer back brackets on).
After doing all that and adding additional 16gb Ram on the system, I am able to run my MD simulations on the machine for hours with CPU and GPU temp under 65C. The overall system with all the upgrades costed me 1850-GBP which is not a bad price.
So if someone is willing to spend a bit more, I won't recommend this at all because changing the cooling system is a MUST and it is not that straight forward.
@@alitousi9618 that is incredibly helpful info. Could you post link of what you used?
I’m stuck between this pc or the Lenovo legion tower 5i … any opinions on which is better or which I should go for please it’s my first Pc but need something powerful enough
The Lenovo looks like a lower spec, but it seems the cooling is better, so I'd say that.
@@jordanash cheers mate!
No worries
Have you looked at the 13900kf / 4090 is it same / just as bad?
The same size Orion 7000? No, it's not changed though. I have however just reviewed the Orion X - czcams.com/video/mM5KnC09xsg/video.html&lc=UgxOHJaR76XQuhUksCh4AaABAg
Can this system be upgradable? Like motherboard cpu gpu power supply?
As far as I can remember, you could change the PSU (with some difficulty though) the GPU you can swap, but will be limited to founders cards (4070 thickness and below) if you want to use "Ice chamber". The motherboard seemed to be M-ATX, but it's a custom design, so I can't be sure about that.
Got this same system - Updated the 120mm AIO to a Asus rog 240mm Ryujin ii switched the Asus fans with more predator frostblades, Predator vesta ii argb ram, Asus thor 1200w PSU, and a Galax KFA2 RTX 4090 (ice tunnel out) runs extremely cool, works amazingly and isn't loud at all, motherboard and cpu can easily be upgraded but don't need to do that at the moment.
Hi, I hope you still answer here :) I have the opportunity to get the Acer Predator 7000 P07-655 with these specs: i9-14900KF - 32GB RAM - 1TB SSD - NVIDIA RTX
4090 at a good price.
I would mainly use it for live streaming on Twitch and CZcams and for creating content. Would you recommend it to me? I actually play everything on the PS5, xBox X or Switch. I would only play Fortnite or The Witcher on the Predator. My old PC will be 8 years old this year, so I need a new one. Thanks in advance for the answer!
Hello. I wouldn't no, that's an *even hotter* CPU that what I have in this, that fan will be constant if you're doing something like live streaming. I'd look at a prebuilt from a local system integrator instead.
@@jordanash okay! Thanks for the quick reply. So probably not even if I buy a better CPU cooler? Or something different?
No worries. You *could* swap the cooler, but as I said in the video you shouldn't need to change anything on a full system. I would suggest getting something else, especially as these are more expensive anyway, you could get something well cooled for the same price, if not cheaper.
Heard quieter planes heading to the runway
great video just wondering getting this for 2.111 euro 2nd hand used with 1 year guarantee worth it or look for something else i am from the Netherlands don't know. Always have my headphones on so the sound shouldnt be a big issue
Thank you. Even with the fans being loud, it still doesn't perform as well as it should from the lack of cooling, as it throttles. I'd try and find a system integrator in your country that uses quality parts over buying this.
@@jordanash everything else here is around 3000€ xD just cant seem to get around but it has i9 and 3080 shouldn't that count for something
It should, but when you don't get the power out of something you've paid for, it's a bit of a tough one.
@@jordanash well gonna cancel my order cheers thx for ur time
No worries
Would you recommend another cooler for the cpu? I have an i7-13700f. During gaming my cpu goes up to 100c
Anything 240mm should fit. The Corsair H100 is one people have swapped it with
Okay thanks. I like the specs but the cooling is concerning. I even called acer and they said that everything is with spec and I shouldn’t be worried
Yeah they would say that as *technically* within 100 degrees is fine and working range of the CPU 😅
can this model customizable like graphic card to be able to swap different one in the future?
You can remove it *but* the cooling is designed specifically for this GPU, so it's unlikely it'll work with a different card. That's if you *actually* buy one of these systems in the first place 😬
i'm using a rtx 3090 dell oem in mine with the ice tunnel and overclocked it runs cool - i use the thundermaster overclock utility to control the gpu fans and for the OC works great!
Upgrades i've made so far - Ryujin ii AIO cooler 240mm, with two additional argb frostblade fans i got imported, addition ssd with heatsinks on both, predator vesta ii ddr5 5200mhz ram with argb sync direct from the motherboard, dell msi rtx 3090, and an asus rog thor 1200w power supply, next thing will be a 4090.
Pretty much a custom build now then!
For the price , I half expected it to have a larger hdd. 2tb is pityfull
Four would be good. but you do have a terabyte on the SSD too.
I have a orion predator 5000 ( latest build 2022/02/17 manufacturing day). And yes...SSD was replaced by me with something that has decent heatsink. RAM was replaced with ( again by me) heatsinks on them + RGB. And that CPU cooler....god damn it has to be replaced too with AIO liquid system of minimum of 2 fans ( read 240). And only after that ....I'm finally happy with the noice and temperatures. So i have to RE-build this custom PRE-built PC. How funny is that?
I've seen a lot of people say similar things, they spent a load of money fixing the problems that came with it. So bad
@@jordanashI want to get a PC like this eventually, but without the issues and having a blue & black case.
Which one do you recommend? The specs on the Predator Orion 7000 are promising, but I’ve heard iffy things about it 😔
Hoping hearing those iffy things came from watching this video 😂
Nothing from Acer tbh. What country are you in, that will help me with options
@@jordanash Georgia. I want to have a good PC in the future where I have more games other than Genshin Impac for example, and if it can run games like Cyberpunk & Genshin Impact well enough? That’s all I ask.
Specs on the Predator Orion 7000 looks promising but seeing the price and hearing the issues is a loss for me
By issue I mean the temperature
Okay, new question: Blue and black case with some RGB, good temps and no bottlenecks
I'm looking to buy one for 1700 Euros? is it a good price for the specs it has atm. I'm planning to play DCS
Is it this *exact* spec for that price? If you can deal with crazy loud fans then I guess so...
@@jordanash yep brand new, will see how it goes
Seems too cheap, but good luck
So microsoft flight simulator is included with this PC? 😂 thank you bro for the honest story. I think that the manufacturer should mention the number of decibels when used in the brochure so that you know where you stand, do you have a good alternative or even better? I live in the Netherlands
Yeah, that's a good idea to implement. To be totally honest I have no idea about system integrators in the Netherlands. I'll do some research and get back to you.
jordan I found the msi meg trident x2 very good alternative in my opinion 🎉
What CPU and cooler does or have?
CPU Intel Core i9 13900KF and for cooling the MSI 280mm AIO liquid cooler
Ideally like to see a 360mm AIO for that CPU, but at least a 280mm is better that a 240mm
If I have the pc on auto mode and play some games does it get loud?
Oh yes, did you not see the auto mode I showed in the video
@@jordanash I did but I didn’t hear the fans ramp up like the custom mode
I just bought this PC with a 90 day warranty and return policy so I'm going to give it 30days of testing and trying it out and if it has the same problems as what I've heard I'm sending it back and buying a different gaming PC, does anyone have any suggestions? For around $1500 or a good site to build my own
If you're confident enough to do it, building your own is *always* cheaper.
@@jordanash any good suggestions on what site I should buy parts from?
Hmmm, Micro Centre would be my first thought. The only other I really know in the US is Newegg, but they've done some dodgy things before.
@@jordanash ok thank you
@@linus3598 nope returned it and bought a new one from nzxt
Great video. Anybody have experience of the Orion 5000? Thinking of buying one. Advice or insight would be much appreciated thank you
Thank you! If you're looking at the 12700k model, it has the same cooler. It'll be hot, but not as extreme as this one.
@@jordanash it’s the 3080 gpu model with 12700f. I don’t think it has the k skew cpu. Hopefully this might fair a bit better?
Yeah the cooler still is too small but it's going to be at least *better* with the lower SKU. It shouldn't ramp up as drastically at least.
thank god for my Sony-1000 XM4 noise canceling headphones... you literally can't hear someone banging on your office door
Covering the issue doesn't *fix* the issue though 😉
My budget is £2,000 to £2,300 what pc is good for gaming and "unreal engine 5" ?
I'd look at a Scan X3S System dude, something like this - www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-gamer-3080-intel
@@jordanash hey thanks for getting back to me, this pc you referred to me,
Is this company trust worthy and would I like be able to update the ram since I haven't got a clue
Is 2000 Euro a good price for i9 12900k and 3080 Setup?
Can you replying?
If it's another PC with better cooling, then yes.
@@jordanash I got the pc cheap and replaced the cpu cooler. swapped for be quiet 240mm water cooling. like another pc now
I just bought pc of this brand and It has same issues with cpu cooling. It's I7 13700f can u recommend any cooler for about 100-150 bucks?
The Corsair H100i is a good go to
@@jordanash Thank u , but how can I check compatibility of that cooler on my pc?
The 13700f is LGA1700 which Corsair supports. In terms of Acer supporting the cooler, there's nothing official, the H100i is just one I know people have used to replace the 120mm.
@@jordanash Okay thank u 🙏
No problem
can you do a review of the po5-640 series without cooler ?
I'll see if I can get it in
@@jordanash ty that would be awesome i have one and you know alot and i wanna make sure its worth keeping
That's what he said
Can you add more fans?
Not in the current state of it, no
if they didnt put that stupid pop up thing at the top, there would have been room for 2 fans, wow what a scam, thx 4 exposing them
There's still room, I'm guessing they just used a smaller cooler to keep costs down.
Why does the leds flash is it supposed to mine just flashes blue
You can set it in predator sense
@@jordanash is that an app?
Desktop app yeah, download from the Acer predator site
Tha fans become loud if you set it to gaming mode. But in my experience, I just set it to auto mode. The system is so quiet the the system runs cool. One key takeaway is that the CPU stock cooler is not good enough as my CPU temperature would go up to 90-100C when gaming. I replaced it with a Noctua U12S and my CPU now never gets past 70C. 60C on average when gaming.
Other than when I showed gaming mode, it was set to auto for all my testing and it ramped beyond acceptable levels. Even when it ramped in the video was on auto and it wasn't doing anything. Do you have the i9 as in the video? Yeah, it's not adequate at all, as I covered.
@@jordanash I have the i7 12700F and RTX3080.
Ah yeah that's a lower TDP CPU than what I'm reviewing here. This is the 12900K, so your fans and cooling won't be as bad as this.
@@jordanash oh that's why. That's nice to know.
Yep, makes a *lot* of difference. I believe the 12700k has a top down air cooler?
Brought this for my son, for Christmas, plugged it in today and it won’t even power on. I’m not computer savy. So now I have to take the thing back. 🤬🤬🤬
That might have been a blessing in disguise
@@jordanash Problem sorted, I tried a different power source. Booted up straight away. If I run into problems we will just upgrade the parts needed to sort things out, and get running nice and cool and quite. We love the look of this unit. We are not into the light up like a Christmas tree look.
If you've not got an i9 then it *should* be quieter
I've always had bad experiences with Acer. Especially their laptops back in the day. Never the less i decided to buy one of these beasts hoping that Acer would have sorted their short comings out over the years. Of course i was wrong.
From day one there was a weird drumming sound from the PSU... But i thought fine whatever, maybe it'll sort itself out and "click into gear" eventually. Gamed The Callisto Protocol and the screen went dark. Nothing i would do would make it switch back on again. Turned the PC off by holding in the power button for 5 seconds. Turned it back on and it starts and shuts down, starts and shuts down, starts and shuts down. Luckily the warranty was still viable so i got a refund.
The PC in therms of power is a powerhouse, i have no complaints about that. But.... It feels like a half built powerhouse. For that amount of money that this beast costs. You are expected to get a quality product. Not some awsome components here and some cheap charlies there. And i do agree with you about the memory sticks and the water cooling and the PSU... These are not places to be cheap on.
It runs way hotter than it needs, hence i am sure the jumbo-jet fan noises.
Anyway, as far as i am concerned and this is my opinion only: The Acer Predator 7000 is a cash grab. And an expensive one at that.
And this was the final nail in the coffin for me with Acer. I will never again purchase or use anything from Acer. Enough is enough.
Haha i have a very similar experience with acer, few days ago finally had enough and ripped the cpu and gpu out of my orion 3000 and built my own pc
Yeah, I was considering this machine but soon as I saw it was ACER I was thinking "the BIOS is going to be custom and minimalistic with preset overclocking options meant for 'rich teen's first gaming PC' so they don't blow up their CPU or fry their expansion slots", I was right. I also thought "They're going to go cheap on the power supply and fans..." and oh look right again. The only good thing about the system is the motherboard and case design, a case designed to support heavy RTX3rd and 4th gen cards with a minimalistic no nonsense motherboard design *and* a rizer cable side slug mounted graphics card? Why the $%^* can't custom boards and cases have this too, instead of ROGROGROGROG crap from ASUS with their questionable BIOS which burns holes in Ryzens or the fragile garbage Gigabyte calls a PCB. Man, can't have anything nice, $%^* these twits.
what is the fan on the top called plz and can you have 2 fans on top?
So a lot of people have replaced the cooler with something like a Corsair H100i, but you have space for two 120mm fans, or a 240mm all in one cooler.
@@jordanash will the Corsair H100i make the cpu cooler ? because my cpu is always showing 70 to 75 plus temperatur °C?
Well it will *help,* plus it won't be obnoxiously loud
@jordanash Hello, i just like to say thanks for suggesting the Corsair H100i i got the 240mm they are very good. i am interested. Do you know if i can replace the motherboard and do you know which one i can go for.
I love the videos
Hey. To be honest I can't remember if it has a normal form factor or not, or if has the mounting for a different board. if you need to get a new board at that point I'd recommend just getting a new case and moving stuff over into that, then you have a normal form factor to work with.
Acer guys must been joking if they thought this setup is fine for the price. They laugh at customers.
That's what they do.
What would you recommend instead for similar specs?
got it at 2k. I7 13gen 4080 and still upgradable, So idk what your talking about, runs games at 160-200+ fps no issues
@MBJ7King is it worthy buying it?
@@bullgom6783not unless you get it for $1500
Cooling is the easiest and cheapest of upgrades.
Exactly why it should be better.
Best ever
Best ever what? Hopefully review, as the system sure isn't 😂
They sell this for 2099 pounds now, will it be worth that price
If you want the problems I mentioned in the video, then yes 😅
To anyone that actually bought this, I'm just curious, did you even looked at a Corsair Vengeance? Apparently not. Not trying to be a jerk I really feel bad for anyone that shelled out this kind of money for this. Putting a 120 on a later gen intel CPU should literally be illegal as well.
Guessing not everyone knows how good each brand is, but to be fair to them you'd expect buying something of this price to work correctly...
Any body knows how to charge the fans colour?
Predator sense software
@@jordanash thank you
No problem
I swaped cpu cooler to 2x120mm radiator Fans from Corsair..
So a 240mm AIO? Or just changed the fans on the Predator AIO?
I've asked about the 13th Gen one. If it arrives and has the same problems, I'll do it.
@@jordanash 240mm AIO
Okay, I'll try it if I can get the new version in
@@DrGrape which one? i have the same problem with this Computer
What are the GPU temps?
High of about 68 if I remember. That has a good cooler, so that's no a problem
@@jordanash
Thanks for the reply.
I actually have a Orion 5000 with a 3080 and was wondering about getting a vertical mount for the GPU and wanted to know what temps the 3090 has in 7000 due to its vertical mount. Right now I get about 73 in the horizontal config.
They sell it here in Australia with a RTX3080 😖
For $5499 AUD
Yikes
Damn shame because this pc looks so cool
Not bad for a prebuilt
You buy an Acer once in a lifetime. The next computer is always a different brand.
Don’t get it.
Heathrow airport
😂
This is really bad is so bad also it’s about to take off 🛫 funny part even louder then mac 😂😂😂 or my pals 4 haha
Haha I know right
The fans are like a PS4, no thank you to noisy
I saw this thing on Newegg and I thought it was AI generated slop
You saw a product listing from a store and thought it was AI generated?
To think I was going to buy this for 3300 🤣
Damn! Glad you watched this review first
@@jordanash As am I. Thankfully I’ve settled for a Omen 45L by HP. Good specs for 1440p gaming (120hz capable) and this PC actually keeps everything cool
Fair play, I would have recommended something from a system integrator (higher quality components) but I hope it works well for you.
@@jordanash yeah I did think of that. But I managed to get £300 off of the 45L which is why I went for it
Fair enough!
I was just about to order until I saw this ridiculous flaw, ordered the Alienware Aurora 14 with liquid cooling instead
I hope that has more than a 120mm aio...
hahaha less good
3,300 LB 💀💀
Damn that's heavy 😅
how do you even get that in the house?!?!?!
Forklift 😋
I use the rtx 3080 from a acer prebuilt gets to 80c too 85c under load
Have too use msi afterburner for software too automatically adjust fan speed if not it will get hot and fans won't increase with the software so literally no acer software fir it unless u use their motherboard etc but i got it for 400 so cnt complain
I just got the Predator Orion 7000 Gaming Desktop - PO7-650-UR11 for $1900 from Micro Center
I hope that's not the i9 😅
@jordanash Intel Core i7 13th Gen 13700KF 2.5GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 16GB GDDR6X; 32GB DDR5-4400 RAM; 1TB SSD+2TB HDD
Okay, not going to have quite as bad of the issues in as this model then
No issue on this model then?
Oh the cooling is the same, so there's still issues. The i7 isn't as high as of a TDP as the i9, so the fans will still famp, just not *as* much. Without reviewing the specific model I can't say about other problems though.
Is this a good computer for upgrading in the future, like new graphics card, motherboard, psu and could you squeeze in nzxt 240 cpu cooler?
Depends on the part. GPU yes, motherboard *maybe*, PSU seems tough to get at. Cooler maybe, someone said they couldn't, others have
@@jordanash okay thanks for the answe really appreciate you involving with your fan base. But would switching the whole pc to a new case like the Corsair 4000d be something relevant?
@@kamilnorman5784 there's literally no point, you just as well make a custom pc at that point. It would be a lot cheaper too
I have the predator rtx 3080 mo software from acer if u don't use all their stuff but use msi afterburner for automatic fan speeds in loads. If not the Gpu fan speeds will stay default think 930 rpm even in heavy loads. Now mine adjusts tried installing predator sense but only works with their motherboard i also temporarily used their cpu cooler until my deepcool 360 came it worked fine though i turned the fan speeds way down on that but temps where fine (i5 11600)