What IS, and what IS NOT really post-apocalyptic?? Is YOUR gear even post-apo? Does it matter?
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I'm 73 just now discovered post apocalyptic costuming. I would like to see more women's costuming. I'm too old to play but would like to just attend an event and not look like a complete newbie. I have been reenacting for 20 years a time line 1640-1840, I have done Native American to a trappers widow. I'm in Ohio, USA and would like to find an event not in California although going to a desert sounds like a one time event for me. I found your FB page and find it wonderful.
I feel like post apocalyptic aesthetics can look like literally anything, it just depends on the individual universe. You could technically have like a historical fantasy post apocalyptic universe if it’s like medieval times and a meteor hits and destroys most the world and the current day is in like the 1500s. So it doesn’t even have to be in the future. You can have a post apocalyptic universe on another planet. As long as it takes place at sometime after a catastrophic event that destroys most of what people know implying that the world has “ended”, it can be post apocalyptic.
Of course most post apocalyptic universes are either zombie apocalypse or nuclear fallout, but you could also have like a massive flood or alien invasion or the moon exploding.
Point is it can technically be anything, but there is a general look that everyone can recognize as post apocalyptic. (I know Nuclear Snail says basically the same thing in the video lol)
@Hank Hudson wtf? What a strange bot lol
I think adventure time is one of the best examples of unorthodox post-ap aesthetics
"You could technically have like a historical fantasy post apocalyptic universe if it’s like medieval times and a meteor hits and destroys most the world and the current day is in like the 1500s."
The Years Of Rice And Salt starts out like this, in a post-apocalyptic setting where the Black Death completely wiped out the population of Europe.
Thanks for the video!
It’s a big genre, lots of room for all sorts of expression. Thanks for approaching the topic. I think I may put together a style guide for us that is easily accessible.
HEY! Thanks for all of the videos. I'm working on my costume right now and its coming out great. Have a good day/night depending on when you read this!
I think we could all benefit from a nuclear snail podcast, or more episodes like this one! Like I can’t get my fix of post apo content often enough.this is pretty sweet.
This question is always one that I have to keep playing through with each new piece I add to my overall look
Hey, I love the idea behind this video, I think i'd be great if you got some friends together and did a podcast talking about your experience in larp and also about costume design.
I love that real snail you show! 🐌
Snails were one of the very first animals I loved to watch and study, and even sometimes rescue (like in rainy seasons when a snail would be trying to get across a road and would be in imminent danger of being run over).
They're just so cool!
yessss we also always resque the snails :3 @öö
You totally forgot Cloud Atlas! They're really going for the tribal style there. Good thing you mentioned The Road, though. That is probably the most realistic scenario with the most realistic costumes, however still interesting.
I love this vid! It would be great if you could do more podcast style videos like this, as I like to listen to your stuff while I run.
You know very well why people mistake post apocalyptic and steampunk.
It's the googles.
I would argue that the reason the structure of Medieval society works well for the structure of a Post-apocalyptic society is that the Medieval period was itself Post-apocalyptic. The collapse of the Roman empire was the collapse of civilization for the ancient world. Warlords...I mean, lords and kings...were so necessary because they offered the "protection" that was no longer available, and they took full advantage of that. The differences between them and Immortan Joe are mostly aesthetics (especially so for the earliest ones). This is why I think so many high fantasy stories (LotR, Wheel of Time, Dragonlance, the official campaign setting of Pathfinder, etc.) feature some sort of cataclysm (i.e., apocalypse) in their past.
Ooh ooh.. Can we do Post-Apocali-pink?
yes.
The one Raider faction in Nuka-Cola World has neon colours including pink 😉
@@PCLHH Mmmmmmmm, Nuka Cola! 😋
@@NuclearSnailStudios I never seen arabian or persian and Indian or other cultures post apocalyptic
Haha
Good tutorial on the topic!.....great tips for our dystopian world, post-collapse story being brought to audiovisual format on location in Venezeula...with the elements of tropical and jungle area native peoples culture dress in the mix.
I feel like the post apocalyptic community has a really bad gatekeeping problem to be honest.
then you met and then forgot to ignore the wrong people ;)
I'm just talking about in general people constantly shit on the bad costumes without giving constructive criticism, and that makes people want to give up or just quit the hobby all together.
@@PDZofficial Ive been seeing that alot as well, And there also seems to more people trying to force you into a set box/look for post apo
You said Shadowrun! That means you know what it is. You just got a lot cooler
not possible.
Also an interesting point is when you mention that in STALKER, not the whole world is ruined. Does it necessarily have to be? What if there was an isolated society gone post apocalypse, while the rest of the world survived? (For example, the America’s were destroyed, but maybe Europe is till ok)
Borderlands is somewhere between Distopian, Post-Apo and Cyberpunk. Very futuristic and colourful, but distressed and dusty. Borderlands = Art.
Some elements of 40k make for good sci fi post apocalyptic costume ideas
Do you think "Blades in the Dark" is a good example of a post-apocalyptic steampunk world? It has the Victorian aesthetic, with arcane electric mad science standing in for steam powered mad science. But it also clearly had a Lovecraftian apocalypse happen a long time ago and the remnants of humanity are just hanging on in what isn't overrun yet.
To me personally, PA is just any universe that has been destroyed (zombies, nuclear bombs, maybe even aliens who knows) and people are trying to make a new life with what is left, scavenging clothes and items from things that are broken. That can be the future, it can be modern or even medieval. So I wholeheartedly agree with you, I hate the gatekeeping this community often shows
THE SPICE (of postapocalypse) MUST FLOW
I love the idea of Post Apocalyptic Medieval society. With kings and knights, and city states, but based in Radioactive Texas or New York.
Given the state of the fast fashion industry, the glut of clothes in every home, and the millions of articles of clothing still in the supply chain all the way down to the rag reclamation process... Wouldn't statistically there be more than enough clothing in good to fair condition given a mass population die-off?
asking for a friend...
Brash critiques for each genre
Post apocalyptic: you can't just paint everything brown and call it PA
Steam punk: you cant just glue gears on it and call it steampunk.
Cyberpunk: everything doesn't need LEDs on it.
Diesel punk: where does all that gas come from?
Thank you for this! I needed to hear this! i LOVE the mix of medival/fantasy and post app! But have so mutch negative feedback...and not eaven Good feedback...just like..."no i don't like it" "I think you look to medival eaven tho you patinated it and added lots of other stuff ...OTHERS might not do that so i don't want to see that here"
now im curious. post your stuff to the NSS community on facebook lets see how oyur medieval PA looks :)
Google spell check exists....use it
@@MeekaChannel my spellcheck is in swedish....so ...no
Really? I think Medieval details can look great with post-apo stuff. . .
But I love Medieval stuff, so maybe I'm biased 😄
Отличные аналогии. Тема обширная и очень субъективная.
Borderlands as a Space Western is great for PA. Stalker needs more love here in the U.S. :) It's a great little bubble of a universe.
So you are saying that after the fall of civilization, that there will be an enforced style guide? Karens from hell?
Mad Max wasn't Post Apocalyptic until the second installment. Mad Max 2 was about fighting over gasoline because it was an almost exhausted resource not over abundant. In Mad Max 3 gasoline didn't exist. It was methane they powered their world on.
The second installment was Mad Max. The first installment was titled The Road Warrior.
@@brandonkeller5912 Mad Max was the first installment in 1979. It was changed to the Road Warrior for American audiences.
@@brandonkeller5912 Second was Mad Max 2 and third was Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
@@stephenwhitton4902 since Dimitri mentions Road Warrior, it seems he watched the American version
@@brandonkeller5912 It can be confusing. It is like Welcome to the Jungle in many countries is the Rundown in America.
If I may, i suggest we look at the following definition:
Definition of postapocalyptic. : existing or occurring after a catastrophically destructive disaster or apocalypse In a postapocalyptic world where nature has become just as violent as humanity …-
Since none of us has experienced the above definition, it leaves us totally to whims of speculation at best and mere fantasy at the other end of the spectrum.
I feel certain should or when such a catastrophe occurs the various levels of discussion and assumption will be lost in the midst of the raw animalistic fight to survive. Any form of artistic expression or intellectual round table discussions and theories will not come to mind.
In my opinion, based on actuality rather than theory, all we have now is a Hollywood production, role playing and a lot of fun.
If someone suggests he or she has a corner of what is fact or fiction, good luck.
Just a few thoughts here...
I feel like post-apocalyptic aesthetic wouldn't work in a historical fantasy scenario. Basically anything before the industrial revolution wouldn't work, since the decentralisation and the collapse of a global society that is usually associated with the apocalypse (and a thing that forces people into DIYing and scavenging) didn't really happen before that. Back then people relied much more on the local stuff in terms of manufacturing food and goods. Not much would change, really (depending on that was the scenario, changes might be only miniscule).
What would work, though, and I'm personally a big fan of, is a total regress of civilisation to medieval times. 400-500 years after "the end" forced people out of big cities into smaller towns and villages, craftsmanship reverted from fully automatic riffles into muskets at best, but with ingredients being hard to come by, the prevalence of swords and bows grew, scavenging is pretty much over, since most of what could've been used have already been reused, there are only tales of the old world, there still are artifacts from then, but they're in much more dangerous locations thus worth much more et cetera. It's a scenario rarely used in postapo (personally, I call that post-postapo, to be honest).
About zombie apocalypses... Here, for me, it depends on how long after it's happening and how big the scope of it is. I wouldn't call Resident Evil 1 or 2 (the movie) post-apocalyptic, it's apocalypse in progress, but by the time of RE3 (again - the movie) it's definitely post-apo now. In 1 and 2 it's just one facility and one town, but also it's been just few days you can find anything you want pretty much intact, by RE3 it's the whole world, and scavenging and repurposing is a necessity at this point.
About Borderlands... I'd argue it's not postapocalyptic the same way S.T.A.L.K.E.R. isn't one. The fact that it's localised and you can freely walk out and return to normal life makes it not postapo in my book. You wouldn't call a Battlefield 1 post-apo, wouldn't you? You wouldn't call Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare post-apo, wouldn't you? You wouldn't call World of Tanks post-apo, wouldn't you? You wouldn't call Star Wars post-apo, wouldn't you? You wouldn't call modern day Syria post-apo, wouldn't you? You wouldn't call modern day Ukraine post-apo, wouldn't you? What I'm saying is that the presence of the most common characteristics doesn't define things. The presence of a defining characteristic defines things. Both cats and dogs have ears, noses, eyes, tongues, walk on all four, both have hair and tails. Those are most common characteristics, but neither of them defines or distinguishes them from one another.
Yes, both S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Bordelnads *aesthetically* could fit in with the post-apo crowd, but as a whole, they do not fit the genre. Yes, in that particualr area people are suffering, they're scavenging to survive, their surrounding is destroyed and abandoned, but at any point they can get up and leave to a normal world. In a warzone people are suffering, they're scavenging to survive, their surrounding is destroyed and abandoned, but at any point they can get up and leave to a normal world. You can call S.T.A.L.K.E.R. post-apo, but then you should also consider evey single video game that takes place during a war to be post-apo.
1: It doesn't matter, and B: We don't know. Nobody living has survived the end of the world as we know it, and there aren't accurate prophecies of what it will actually be like. So, don't be pedantic at the event. Anything we have now, may survive along with anyone else, that isn't killed in the cataclysm. Smart Phones? Yeah, there probably won't be any 4G service, but there's so many devices you can charge Micro USB off of from a generator, or photovoltaic array. Just add it to your background. "Yeah, I had a generator, a laptop, and a charger, in my bunker. It's basically a micro-tablet now, but..." Your story is you survived, right? ANYTHING you have now might have survived with you. There's probably preppers right now with stockpiles of Bounce drier sheets because they just like the way they smell.
3: Extra points for having it in your Background. You ever talked to someone who had a whole bunch of tattoos, and asked them "What's that one about?" Some of those guys have a story behind every single one of their tattoos. That's what LARPING is all about, Post Apocalyptic is Worldbuilding. You just have to create a story for 1 character. Ask Cable why he's got that scorched, and bloody Teddy bear, or Leonard Smalls "What's with the baby booties?" The best answer to "Is that Post Apocalyptic?" is "Well, it's actually a funny story, you see..."
On Distressing: Some things can be maintained, because they're important. A good example would be your Weapons, and Tools. If you have a sword, you're going to take care of it, because you depend on it for your life. The belt it's stuck in? It's just a belt, when it's worn out, you can find and make another one, but a Sword is something you will do your absolute best to keep in the absolute best condition. A gas mask isn't going to work, if the seals are broken. Goggles are useless if you can't see out of them, and this is something that pisses me off: Goggles with biohazard stickers over the lenses are obviously useless for the purpose of being goggles.
Yeah, don't just throw a bunch of old stuff together and stay it's PA. Use some imagination and build something together with a good background story.
Unless of course its in the story for your character to have just found a bunch of stuff and that element makes up all their gear, that they didn't have time to work on matching their clothes or themes because they needed to focus on necessities and protection.
@@manticorephoenix Right. But that would be a story too ;)