"MORE DIRT!"..or maybe not! What´s the RIGHT ammount of distressing for post-apo gear?
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Or for the "you would take care of your outfit" mentality you could intently muddy up, distress, and tear up the outfit and try to carefully clean and stitch it back togetherand so it is visible that the clothes have been through hell but you are diligent in your repair work. For armor you could let it rust on purpose then remove it in a way that shows evidence that it was once rusty wich would add character to the costume. For the straight out of the bunker people it would probably be best to use a nbc suit then aply some level of dirt and grunge on the exterior (especially toward the bottom), also you could tears in the suit and stitch it up and apply some form of spray on rubber so there is evidence it has been used but is still fully functional.
"I found it in a bunker' it still makes me laugh.
Especially since I had this discussion, a couple of years ago, with a dude on one of our own PA events; his entire outfit looked brand new, there was nothing post apo about it at all. So I told him to change his outfit or leave the encampment. And he pretty mutch told me he found it in a bunker and would take good care of it so it would look brand new. That was his character..so he told. I couldn't help but start laughing..it was a ridiculous excuse
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The thing about the Negan thing is that. Even if you’re cleaning the gun entirely everyday. That would still wear down the paint/metal. Grab some metal like a spoon and paint the handle then scrub it down every day. That paint will still slowly go away and you’ll be left with this cleaned and rubbed metal. So even if your gun or weapon got cleaned everyday, you wouldn’t have a factory finish. You’d have polished but still worn out metal.
You don't ram doors with your shoulder, you kick em in.... so distress your soles....
Also, just a thought about weathering and distressing. Dust and rust are certainly good for some settings, but it depends largely on what kind of apocalypse being dealt with. Nuclear war apocalypses are definitely a place where it fits since water and resources are scarce, but if you have an apocalypse where rivers still run and there's still wild game and livestock around or plants such as cotton, there are other distressing tricks that work too. For example, instead of repurposing old gear, you might think about adding hand-made elements such as fur, buckskin or natural fibers. weather clothes by washing them can also help.
For some reason a lot of post-apoc enthusiasts think that civilization ending would mean people forget how to bathe or clean their clothes or maintain weapons, which is just ridiculous. Even in the Dark Ages, which could be considered an apocalypse, new clothes and weapons were made all the time, People repurposed some things, but not a lot. People also still bathed and found ways to clean their clothes and comb their hair.
In fact, some apocalypse scenarios would require a certain level of cleanliness. Like in a zombie apocalypse, you wouldn't want to run around in dirty clothing, especially if you had to take on the undead with hand weapons because that would be infected material. If you are part of a military or organized faction, the same rule applies. Real militaries know that hygiene is a key component for both morale and to prevent disease. As for rusted weapons and armor, no fighting person in their right mind would let rust accumulate on their weapons for any prolonged length of time, at least not if they have any knowledge of weapon upkeep. Rust is a deteriorating substance and any knife or firearm left to rust is going to begin serving its function less and less effectively. lGunsl begin to jam or malfunction, armor will become brittle and blades will begin to loose their integrity and sharpness.
Bottom line, while he is correct that dirt and grime is visual shorthand that things have gone to Hell fast, it is one that is often over-used and can come across as cheap and lazy if you're not careful. Dirty and falling apart does not always equal accurate or even believable. Sometimes a few dings or scratches can be more authentic than all the dirt and grime you can sling.
Thanks for an informative and interesting video! I’m newbie to post apocalyptic stuff and learning a lot. 😊
I’ve spent a decent amount of time in the outdoors though. Some years ago me and some friends went canoeing in Finland and when we hit civilisation midway after 4 weeks, only washing our clothes in cold water and normal soap - people were still staring at us. Cause the wear, patching, soot and sweat were visible. And that was only 4 weeks.
Idk about dirt on the weapon. Anyone that has done military service or a civilian that owns a weapon knows a dirty weapon is prone to malfunction. It looks cool, don't get me wrong (Love NuclearSnail) I just think dystopia or not. No warrior wants a dirty weapon.
Creativity blooms most within restrictions.
Agreed.
Just my two cents (before watching): In my opinion there are multiple ways in wich things age and rust. Especially mechanical stuff like firearms or steam engines can get sealed shut if it is completely covered in rust. No matter how old a gun is supposed to be, if it is meant to work some important parts like the lock would have to be clean for it to do so. Some things like pistol slides would basically polish themself through friction. This applies to basically everything. Where there is friction, stuff tends to say clean. Knees, saddles, etc. On the subject of saddles: Why are there so few post apocalyptic settings with horses? They are basically very fast all-terrain vehicles wich do not need fuel... one could think they would be all over the place, adding to a wild west kind of atmosphere...
Horses, around a large number of people who may not be familiar with how to act around them, could be dangerous.
They do need fuel. A lot of it. They are huge creatures that exert tons of energy in a day. They need a lot of food.
Horses would be food in the wasteland.
@@fury_769 so... Horse cannibalism?
@@nathanexplosion3867 Well, I'm not a horse so i wouldn't call it that. But not a bad thought though. Zombie horses. But i float away from the subject, i just believe horses would be treated as food rather than transport un the wasteland where a lot of animals had died of and food is hard to find.
That's a lot of excellent points!
HOWEVER:
About few hundred years in the future: depending on the type of apocalypse and how long are we talking about here it could go different ways. If it's fallout style, with nuclear wastelands and people only relatively recently (50-100 years) coming out of the vaults: maybe old and deteriorating stuff is viable, but in my mind, at this point people would start reestablishing society and start manufacturing new stuff in a more proper way. And if the apocalypse happened more than 300-400 years before, then we'll have the world Sztejer style. Sztejer is a Polish postapo/fantasy book, that takes place about 400 years (IIRC) after "conflagration" and people went back to pretty much medieval style of living, with isolating themselves in heavily guarded villages in fear of mutants (basically zombies but faster, more dangerous and more intelligent, something like the ones from I Am Legend). The only remains of the old world are the "cursed cities" with mutants, and apporaching those is a heresy, some electricity in one town (due to a power plant, whose workers are worshipped as demigods) and a monastery with trained killers using double barrelled shotguns (they also have a monopoly on manufacturing and using them). Now that is how a future long after would look like, I highly doubt people would still wear old, patched clothes. (btw, I doubt this book came out in any language other than Polish, but even if it did - it's mediocre, 6/10 at best. Interesting setting though)
Rusty guns... Not my style. Beaten up, scratched up, with some makeshift repairs and maybe small patches of rust in non-vital parts, like trigger guard or maybe the butt cap, stuff like that - that I love (your M14 is a good example of that). All rusty? Nah, that's not just visuals and paint, that could be dangerous if you have rusty barrel or the receiver. Realistically - you wouldn't let that happen. I can understand the appeal of that, to each their own, but it's not for me.
Guns and rust. When you maintain your weapon it does not rust, BUT camopaint wears off and it may look postapocalyptic.
I made a comment on that facebook thread about understanding the dirt but not the rust. I think my issue with most rust effects you see is that they are usually a bright orange or red. If you look at a really old tool or something that has rusted and is still being used, it's usually brown or blackish. Also,,,I have seen people rust cloth, aluminum gun parts or plastic items,,that i really don't get.
Maybe they're from a Mad Max world where there is so much rust it blows around in the wind and sticks to clothes?
This is recently the inspiration I needed, in going to hop tight to the store asap. Can't wait to get started. Thank you and Hail the Snail
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“MORE DIRT!!”
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Great point on high traction areas! I never really thought about that before but it makes sense.
Awesome video! ave been dealing with this question myself lately while working on my own first post-apoc costume, I have it set in a winter apocalypse so not a lot of dust and grunch, but still trying to make everything seem worn
I make post-apocalyptic armor and weapons but I don't distress it just because that is up to the future owner's discretion. They need to decide how much wear to put on it
I love your accent and your aesthetic. Will you ever make it out to Wasteland Weekend again?
thanks and sometime i will, dont know if 2019 or not yet :)
Hi, can you make a tutorial how to distress tires?
That would be very helpful not only for me, but also for all postapocalyptic community ;)
A very important video, it pretty much sums everything up.
All too often people who do post apocalyptic stuff throw in random clichés of the genre without thinking much about it, which is a shame as the world building/storytelling is the fun part. I think post apocalyptic universes being mostly based on today's world but taken from a different perspective is what makes them so fascinating and fun to play with. They are fictional but at the same time rooted in reality.
Tacti-Cool... I like that.
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Just roll around in mud. That's what I did for my Dystopia Rising gear.
Of course, it was part of the larp. I was being chased by six or seven zombies. Alone. In the rain.
But about the rust, why rust on an G36? Knowing its like 90% build out of corrosion resistant synthetic materials like carbon fiber reinforced polyamide. And the mags out of shock resistant plastic.
Not to complain about it, still like the idea tho.. Thanks for tips and sharing helpful info!
its a type of art realism isnt always needed
Schneck, Schneck, Schneck!
I'd think that for something like one's "Wasteland Formal" fancy dress, one would have only a relatively minor amount of dirt/distressing as compared to one's daily duds. Sort of one of those outfits saved and worn only for special occasions, if you were well-off enough in a PA setting to afford the luxury of having something like that.
Thank you so much :) You know, the example of Spud is really an inspiration and I'm pretty sure we can make the expression "Remember you're NOT Spud!" going round the wasteland :P You're in?
Interesting
Base Layer Grunge... AKA antiquing in artist terms. LOL
Can you do a tutorial on some burn distressing? I would like to make my character a firestorm survivor.
lots of black paint and hammer distressing then :)
Put gear on a mannequin, torch it then extinguish?
moin
Das sieht so aus als Ob sie den Handschutz des G36 bei uns aus einem Bach gezogen haben. Zum Thema Kunststoff rostet nicht.
It looks like they pulled the G36's handguard out of a stream. On the subject of plastic does not rust.
ist eigentlich ne billige airsoft (aus plastik) und rostlack drüber
@@NuclearSnailStudios Aber auch ein originales G36 wäre dort aus Kunststoff und würde da nicht rosten.
Trick question you can't have to much dirt.
yes you can :D
Schneck, Schneck, Schneck!