Is the new Toyota Supra too... 'BMW'? | Top Gear: Series 27

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  • čas přidán 14. 12. 2019
  • The new Toyota Supra was co-developed with BMW, but is it too, um, BMW? Well Paddy loves it, and Harris likes it too, but...
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  • @nikhil40743
    @nikhil40743 Před 4 lety +2256

    The car is like comparing the old top gear and the new one

    • @dbnpoldermans4120
      @dbnpoldermans4120 Před 4 lety +54

      So true

    • @Akkbar21
      @Akkbar21 Před 4 lety +128

      Took a single scroll to find a negative new top gear comment. Why don’t they just give up or make it Chris Harris Drives?

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 Před 4 lety +40

      This video is good enough reason to unsubscribe :)

    • @Blasterxp
      @Blasterxp Před 4 lety +8

      Spot on!

    • @redraya4263
      @redraya4263 Před 4 lety +45

      Nope the new supra is faster and more fun and better sport car
      The new top gear is worse in every way

  • @soawn29
    @soawn29 Před 4 lety +1546

    Cant wait for the M version..

    • @Jewsenburg
      @Jewsenburg Před 4 lety +23

      Me neither......

    • @opium42069
      @opium42069 Před 4 lety +25

      If this m40i version is this good,just imagine the supra M..

    • @LilMissMurder3409
      @LilMissMurder3409 Před 4 lety +10

      LOL Quality

    • @elvis_chen
      @elvis_chen Před 4 lety +20

      BMW: We are proud to introduce the...
      Toyota: Supra GRMN!

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 Před 4 lety +12

      BMW won't be as stupid as this comment. A BMW M has an S-series engine. This and Z4 will only have the B58. Sure a faster Zupra will come but don't confuse your sushi with bratwurst.

  • @RideTheTrack
    @RideTheTrack Před 4 lety +645

    Like ordering sushi but getting a bloody sausage instead

    • @MkGm3993
      @MkGm3993 Před 4 lety +2

      yes please

    • @davidckj1
      @davidckj1 Před 4 lety +22

      more like sushi with german sausage bits instead of fish

    • @Eeter26
      @Eeter26 Před 4 lety +11

      Kevin Sandu sausage is still a damn nice meal!

    • @mrjjthor
      @mrjjthor Před 4 lety +20

      It still taste damn good but just not what I ordered. Lol

    • @eurosonly
      @eurosonly Před 4 lety +2

      Or ordering a salad at a burger joint.

  • @Sazuza2
    @Sazuza2 Před 4 lety +293

    5:43 "Is it a God sportscar?"
    "yes"
    "God"

    • @Eeter26
      @Eeter26 Před 4 lety +5

      doppiamente *good

    • @AlfaAston03
      @AlfaAston03 Před 4 lety +24

      @@Eeter26 Thats the joke

    • @gnerd07
      @gnerd07 Před 4 lety +3

      Love how they portrayed it. Excellent ending

    • @abedawg94
      @abedawg94 Před 4 lety +1

      😂

    • @Shutxk0u
      @Shutxk0u Před 4 lety +1

      I hear that after replaying this clip

  • @stevenpadilla2332
    @stevenpadilla2332 Před 4 lety +45

    Chris Harris needs his own show, this man knows car guys

  • @rafikoumimou3503
    @rafikoumimou3503 Před 4 lety +577

    Hits the limiter at 155 mph
    So yeah its a bmw

    • @TheAllAroundMan
      @TheAllAroundMan Před 4 lety +28

      The Mk4 was also limited to 155

    • @joshschegan
      @joshschegan Před 4 lety +51

      If it hits the limiter at 112 mph does that make it a Japanese Toyota? 🤔

    • @rafikoumimou3503
      @rafikoumimou3503 Před 4 lety +5

      chill its a joke

    • @stangetts3204
      @stangetts3204 Před 4 lety +2

      Who wants to go faster than 155?

    • @GMLSX
      @GMLSX Před 4 lety +3

      @@stangetts3204 Allready did as a co-driver in a tuned 1987 Pontiac Trans Am GTA. Not as exiting as you may think. But pisses of the BMW and Audi drivers.

  • @szn00
    @szn00 Před 4 lety +461

    Listen lads....personally I think only people that are passionate about the car's heritage are gonna complain (like me)..Objectively the Supra is great but it just hurts a little bit :(

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch Před 4 lety +10

      Exactly.

    • @karstenbeyer982
      @karstenbeyer982 Před 4 lety +1

      Top!

    • @aka1mite
      @aka1mite Před 4 lety +17

      I've always says the biggest and only problem with the new supra is that they called it a supra

    • @godzillas6301
      @godzillas6301 Před 4 lety +4

      @@aka1mite Yep ...... closely followed by the owners . Me i feel let down . My mk4 is getting old . Id like an update version as chris says with the crazy curved dash and the general noise to bring a smile but with heated seats and other modern luxury . Cant use the 2jz because of ..... well its 2019 and greta would come after you so something along the next step ... say a V10 and a couple of superchargers . Allow the legend to live on and not be an embarrassment of badges .

    • @fai8t
      @fai8t Před 4 lety +1

      No5hit ladies and gentlemen

  • @branimirteodorovic2297
    @branimirteodorovic2297 Před 4 lety +712

    If Nissan has money to make GT-R, than Toyota should also have money to make a proper Supra

    • @carboydorifutoparty3976
      @carboydorifutoparty3976 Před 4 lety +64

      Yes. Well just forget about the whole decade difference in building new cars,well fotget the inflation costs to build it,well forget that they'd have to make factories just to make this one car,well forget that it'll be in the LC's price range if they'd built it themselves but is built to go against the 370z,M2C,and Cayman,well just forget that Toyota doesnt have a single production car making nowhere near 600hp. They'd just be asking to kill themselves if they even tried making it themselves even if they have the money they'll lose all of it instantly if they tried something like building it themselves.

    • @Marvelous0071
      @Marvelous0071 Před 4 lety +41

      Most of Toyotas money was wasted on the LFA project. Even for $375,000 Toyota would still lose on profits from the sheer R&D for that vehicle.

    • @jonesjonz1
      @jonesjonz1 Před 4 lety +3

      PREACH!!

    • @jonesjonz1
      @jonesjonz1 Před 4 lety +17

      @@carboydorifutoparty3976 horse shit excuses will get you no where. Which is what is gonna happen to this Z4.

    • @luqmaanjoseph
      @luqmaanjoseph Před 4 lety +59

      @@jonesjonz1 get nowhere? Do you not know how well these cars are selling and how much reliable power people are making with these cars already? Everyone is hung up on oh 2jz this and 2jz that. Toyota didn't even make the 2jz themselves that was a Yamaha motor... But nobody's ready for that conversation yet...
      People need to get over all this history and legacy bullshit. They set out to make a good sportscare and they made a damn good one at that. Who gives a rats ass if the company known for making cheap Japanese crap right now has a car that actually feels premium and luxurious and German?
      And besides. Most people complaining aren't gonna buy one anymore or probably can't afford one so why all the bitching?

  • @sfcindia981
    @sfcindia981 Před 4 lety +202

    The moment "chris harris" stepped in, i was like "yes it's worth waiting" 😍

    • @youssefkhaled9346
      @youssefkhaled9346 Před 4 lety

      ^^^^^^^^^

    • @revaholic
      @revaholic Před 4 lety +5

      Not really, he just blabbed and ranted about how it's a BMW. That is not new information or an interesting take. Chris is usually much more nuanced

    • @godzillas6301
      @godzillas6301 Před 4 lety +2

      he took a massive step up in my book for this , prior i wasnt a fan

    • @youssefkhaled9346
      @youssefkhaled9346 Před 4 lety +1

      If chris harris showed up in a top gear episode and did absolutely nothing but sing i would still enjoy it

    • @spacekii
      @spacekii Před 4 lety +2

      @@revaholic Yeah I agree. Chris is my favourite presenter but I think he should give it a chance (although it was definitely scripted for him to say that)

  • @Captain-Mayday
    @Captain-Mayday Před 4 lety +117

    Chris Harris is probably the only reason why anyone is still interested in the show.
    If only Chris Harris was part of the Clarkson trio, that would have been a formidable team.

    • @sreeharipradeepan9630
      @sreeharipradeepan9630 Před 4 lety +2

      What's so good about Clarkson trio🙄🙄😓 they are the worst.

    • @sreeharipradeepan9630
      @sreeharipradeepan9630 Před 4 lety +1

      @Vito Adame are you?

    • @arun2995
      @arun2995 Před 4 lety

      I agree, that would be epic. The childishness alone would make me want to watch.

    • @atif1538
      @atif1538 Před 4 lety +6

      @@sreeharipradeepan9630 how are they the worst? the old top gear was succesful so idk where the bad part is.

    • @JC-be1hk
      @JC-be1hk Před 4 lety

      It's all scripted

  • @swinglow33
    @swinglow33 Před 4 lety +52

    I'd rather wait for Toyota to make a complete refresh with all Toyota bits.

    • @number4861
      @number4861 Před 4 lety +1

      swinglow33 hopefully this car will be a stepping stone to get there

    • @original__gmebvy
      @original__gmebvy Před 4 lety +2

      Number 4 this is the last big grand tourer you’ll get under that badge. If you want all Toyota, buy a Lexus. Have fun tuning and tightening up that floaty boat suspension since they all drive like old school American land yachts aka couches

    • @Joolz1982
      @Joolz1982 Před 4 lety

      They won’t put Toyota bits in it especially engine due to cost. Plus Toyota interior is how do I put this politely poor compared with the German cars sadly.

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 Před 3 lety

      @@Joolz1982 As an owner of a Toyota who owned a BMW, this is true... However, as a counter-argument, I offer the fact that while the interior may be cheaper in feel in Toyotas, especially old ones. There are PLENTY of us who prefer it that way. I'd rather an interior that I don't mind wearing down and replacing, and won't cost me much, than I would one that makes me anxious to enjoy my car for fear of wearing it down and that costs an arm, a leg, both my kidneys, half my liver and my left lung to replace when it wears down

    • @Joolz1982
      @Joolz1982 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Dominik189 Good point about interior being expensive in BMW etc. I hope they don’t wear out quickly!? As an owner of a 2004 Celica at moment (GT86 Jan) I think the old interiors have a few too many hard parts although do agree they could be replaced easily and cheaply. On that point yes I wish they had put a few more Toyota parts in the interior like steering wheel and Tac Gauges(which apparently also BMW made!).

  • @xD-jm2ie
    @xD-jm2ie Před 4 lety +114

    It's always good when the Japanese and the Germans team up. An iconic duo.

    • @armands3153
      @armands3153 Před 4 lety +14

      Still missing the Italians sadly. Would be great if FCA would join and do something useless like the electronics of the both automobiles.

    • @kylewesker726
      @kylewesker726 Před 4 lety +2

      Omagad

    • @jeremyfong5684
      @jeremyfong5684 Před 4 lety +10

      Well, not in a World War or 2

    • @eleanorstang08
      @eleanorstang08 Před 4 lety +2

      Lol I see what you did there

    • @theroyalcrown9165
      @theroyalcrown9165 Před 4 lety +1

      I wish it was a real toyota supra however it is good where two societies focused on precision and craftsmanship it should be great however longevity is a concern for a bmw but the supra is an icon it should have been 100 percent toyota if i want a bmw ill buy a bmw if i wanted a true toyota i would get a mk4 supra

  • @victorneamtu7485
    @victorneamtu7485 Před 4 lety +163

    Omg that accent is killing me :)) Nice video though

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 Před 4 lety +5

      Skip the first wasted 3 minutes or add captions

    • @Heinrichrhode1997
      @Heinrichrhode1997 Před 4 lety +3

      @@nessuno5403 Something that Jeremy Clarkson or Mat Watson would have done with that accent

    • @will51001
      @will51001 Před 4 lety

      Same

  • @taleeftamsal1024
    @taleeftamsal1024 Před 4 lety +16

    This was actually a very good episode of motoring journalism.

  • @QantonisQ
    @QantonisQ Před 4 lety +86

    - Is the new Toyota Supra... 'BMW'?
    - YES

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin Před 4 lety +4

      Is the new bmw a ... Supra?

  • @SphericPenny73
    @SphericPenny73 Před 4 lety +16

    Chris had me cracking up 😂
    Guy: Mr Harris
    Chris: Step out of that seat and apply urself to shotgun position 3:18

  • @idknils2920
    @idknils2920 Před 4 lety +8

    There's so many cars that are the same as other cars but for some reason the internet is really angry about this

  • @gullf1sk
    @gullf1sk Před 4 lety +65

    Imagine if Ferrari had a rebadged BMW and this pillocks argument was "is it a good sports car????"

    • @amirkhalissumardisidi2265
      @amirkhalissumardisidi2265 Před 4 lety +10

      Except ferrari is a better manufacturer than bmw....turn it around, what if toyota collaborate with ferrari and people still complain bcos it still doesnt have a 2jz.

    • @SpinachLeaf
      @SpinachLeaf Před 4 lety +12

      @@amirkhalissumardisidi2265 if it was a rebadged Ferrari it'd be great sports car it doesn't change the fact that its a Ferrari and not Supra. Really why call it a Supra it was a cash grab by toyota. It doesnt matter if bmw has the better sports car when people wanted a supras character and feel. Why go for the rebadged from toyota why not go to BMW if you want a BWM.

    • @gullf1sk
      @gullf1sk Před 4 lety +2

      @@amirkhalissumardisidi2265 Thats what i mean, toyota is a better manufacturer than bmw, as is ferrari

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin Před 4 lety +2

      Well, mclaren F1 has a bmw engine
      most koengesegodfhsnfjlngklanljeggs have mustang engines

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 Před 4 lety

      Well ut would be a worse sports car

  • @lknanml
    @lknanml Před 4 lety +50

    Love how much of the concept made it through production. Fine with the engine. That interior though.... About as passionate as an electric shaver. It's perfectly adequate in form and function and completely forgettable.

    • @tommybason6057
      @tommybason6057 Před 4 lety +4

      I've sat in one and yeah it is a very nice place to sit, but I see your point, perhaps some features to make it stand out would be a good idea

    • @loud_n_lowtaco200
      @loud_n_lowtaco200 Před 4 lety +3

      Tommy Bason once I sat in it I was quickly able to see every detail, it would’ve been better to discover new little things later on if I were to own it.

    • @lknanml
      @lknanml Před 4 lety +3

      @@tommybason6057 I know Toyota said they had full control over it and shared platforms are nothing new and VERY GOOD for the industry. The Supra may not have come back otherwise. The shared parts right out of the BMW bin is not an issue as well. I do like the look of some of their options. It's just not very [Toyotay] in there especially when they added some MK IV to the look outside. I'll admit I thought there would be some version or nod to the prior car in the center console. Not sure why they played this one overly safe. It's not going to age well at all. Lastly I know people seem to like these raised center displays but it looks terrible in my eyes. It's like they designed the whole interior, got it approved, started building them and someone said hey guys you forgot to add a screen to this car. Oh crap. ahhh. Just stick it here. GO GO GO. Can't wait for this trend to end. Even motorizing them wont help. Just build them into the dash already. Even a hood going to the bottom of the windshield would solve some of the tacked on look. Then again I don't plan on buying one and must not be apart of the demographic they are after. Right now Tesla is the worst. I swear if you take one out you will find a vesa mount on the back.......

    • @jasonhudson8336
      @jasonhudson8336 Před 4 lety

      LKNANML yeah but it’s like they teased us with this perfect FT1 and put it in a vice and smashed it and then watered it down. It’s just too damn tiny and the interior is also too small it’s like they wanted there version of the 370Z but then they shouldn’t have used the Supra name

    • @BF109G4
      @BF109G4 Před 4 lety +1

      LKNANML
      Toyota shared nothing. The car is full BMW, it was recalled by BMW

  • @BlitzkriegRap
    @BlitzkriegRap Před 4 lety +11

    I have no problem with Supra having a BMW engine...my only complaint is that they don't offer a manual. Then this would be something special on the market!

    • @ytaltacc8008
      @ytaltacc8008 Před 3 lety +1

      Aston Martin power some of their cars with the Mercedes 4L V8. It is a brilliant engine as it is, but Aston Martin does their own exhaust and mapping of the engine, so it feels and sounds different then unique and different then the Mercedes. Toyota didn't even do that 😒 Its just. . . lame

    • @laromaxpower
      @laromaxpower Před 2 lety

      theres a chance there will be a manual in the upcoming gr supra but dont be surprised it it dosent have one

    • @muhammadmore
      @muhammadmore Před 2 lety

      The manual has arrived

  • @shawnparadox9299
    @shawnparadox9299 Před 4 lety +15

    This was good video
    The simple start then the Chris surprise in the middle then continues the flow to the end

  • @AutoFanatique
    @AutoFanatique Před 4 lety +23

    3:22 They could've at least got rid of the BMW door chime 😭 good review nonetheless TG

    • @youtubacc0unt
      @youtubacc0unt Před 4 lety

      Lmfao 😂 that was a deal breaker for me

  • @gerardjaleo381
    @gerardjaleo381 Před 4 lety +8

    They should edit some subtitles when these two "talk"... still, gotta love Chris Harris

  • @harrissaeed657
    @harrissaeed657 Před 4 lety +64

    Classic Chris schooling the newbie...

  • @DziadekMroz6666
    @DziadekMroz6666 Před 4 lety +32

    "It's not a Toyota"
    -Chris Harris on Toyota Supra J29

  • @user-iz5wb5jl9k
    @user-iz5wb5jl9k Před 4 lety +43

    BMW Supra

  • @adh6712
    @adh6712 Před 4 lety +14

    Love how Chris still mentions the 2JZ engine..respect!

  • @ewadge
    @ewadge Před 4 lety +10

    I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t mind Paddy

  • @mlp-hot-rod5824
    @mlp-hot-rod5824 Před 4 lety +102

    I'd rather spend £55K on an old one and doing it up.

    • @eX0dusmods
      @eX0dusmods Před 4 lety +2

      MLP-Hot-Rod I’d rather drive an actual Z4. Roadsters are bliss anyway

    • @ShreN_
      @ShreN_ Před 4 lety +8

      Have fun trying to get a good MK4 Supra for £55k lol

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin Před 4 lety +4

      Lmao 55k? cute they cose up to 150k

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin Před 4 lety +2

      @@eX0dusmods They drive worse from reviews i heard though

    • @Joolz1982
      @Joolz1982 Před 4 lety

      You could get a non Turbo one for that I guess. But forget a Turbo for that price.

  • @leolopez626
    @leolopez626 Před 4 lety +25

    The old Supra didn’t make all those noises until the tuners got their hands on it and the 2JZ didn’t come stock with 800 horsepower.

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 Před 3 lety +1

      1200 WHP** xD but true, however, the 2JZ-GTE did make some lovely noises all it's own from the factory.

    • @lordderak
      @lordderak Před 2 lety

      @@Dominik189 not as nice as the noise the bmw in-line 6 makes in stock form, people need to move on from the 2jz obsession, it’s old tech. Great engine for sure but not an engine for a modern sports car

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 Před 2 lety

      @@lordderak I've heard all of 1 BMW engine who's tone I liked and that was the old ass S14 engine. BMW engines sound like garbage to me, in fact most European car manufacturers engines sound like complete and utter shyte regardless of the exhaust on them. At least to me. I'm a rotary guy, the best sounding engine ever made in my opinion is a NA Rotary, whether it's a 2 rotor, 3 rotor or 4 rotor doesn't matter.

    • @lordderak
      @lordderak Před 2 lety

      @@Dominik189 AMG engine as well? I think that statement is nonsense tbh

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 Před 2 lety

      @@lordderak we all have our own taste man. There's people who hate the sound of a rotary, people who like me adore that same sound. Some people like the sound of boxer engines with unequal length headers and others don't. Some like European makes, others don't. It's all personal taste. My taste is my own.

  • @traderknightzbitcoinuniver8168

    3:31 lmao “well, well, oh well...”

  • @jGRite
    @jGRite Před 4 lety +4

    I thought I should rewatch this with subtitles... oh gosh.

  • @Lostsage01
    @Lostsage01 Před 4 lety +30

    I like BMW’s for their engineering and how they feel when you drive them, but hate the excess maintenance / repair costs when the cars get older.
    I like Toyota’s because they’re solid, reliable cars with low ownership costs, if maybe a bit boring.
    If I buy this, am I getting the best of both worlds? Or the worst of both worlds? Am I going to regret the purchase when the warranty is up? There was a rumor before the car’s reveal that Toyota had gone through the BMW motor and quality tested every part, redesigning those that didn’t meet Toyota standards - much to the surprise of BMW. However, Toyota has said basically squat publicly about the reliability testing they did of these various BMW parts, which has me questioning the validity of that rumor.
    Bottom line for me - a BMW engineered Toyota sounds interesting, but this could be a better car to lease vs buy.

    • @Cyba_IT
      @Cyba_IT Před 4 lety +5

      Great point about reliability. And I suspect if that were true about Toyota testing the Bimmer parts they'd keep it on the lowdown because if they publicised it then they're basically broadcasting that BMW parts are shit. They're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    • @YusufGinnah
      @YusufGinnah Před 4 lety +9

      Don't buy into all the marketing hype about parts being re-tested and strengthened... Toyota may have tested parts for fitment compatibility but nothing's been changed. The part numbers are even the same as the z4.
      And all Toyota dealerships that provide servicing to the new Supra have a single BMW technician on-site to do Supra servicing.
      So it's a BMW that they're now able to sell to Toyota customers.
      Everybody wins... Except the buyer of course.

    • @YusufGinnah
      @YusufGinnah Před 3 lety

      @Chaminda Thushara Ruwan Kasturi No doubt buddy, I have mad respect for the B58, it's very tunable.
      But it isn't a Japanese creation.
      Simply put, with Toyota being maybe the world's largest auto manufacturer, they can't have the excuse that a new model will cost too much to produce.
      It's just a dilution of what a Toyota actually is.
      👍🏼

  • @faded039
    @faded039 Před 4 lety +21

    *OH TAYOTA SUPRE*

  • @TVCHLORD
    @TVCHLORD Před 4 lety +65

    this guy sounds like hes paid by toyota and bmw

  • @Steve-qr2lm
    @Steve-qr2lm Před 4 lety +10

    No manual transmission is the biggest disappointment for me, it’s a drivers car!

  • @TheDoosh79
    @TheDoosh79 Před 4 lety +8

    "Imagine doing your big shop at Lidl and getting home to find your bags full of Waitrose gear" - lol, genius.

  • @BaconNCereal
    @BaconNCereal Před 4 lety +3

    I agree they should’ve ATLEAST recreated the mk4 Supra interior driver dash ...

  • @FrancisMarcosGaming
    @FrancisMarcosGaming Před 4 lety +9

    Imagine complaining about a BMW powered car that isn't a McLaren

    • @Krozhin
      @Krozhin Před 4 lety +6

      This is just a rebadged bmw, complete garbage
      -The neckbeard who drives a corolla
      Shame on bmw and toyota, two makers of insane sports cars, for coming together and bringing us a sick affordable sports car with a fantastic powertrain and chassi

    • @MalakhiW
      @MalakhiW Před 4 lety +3

      i’m a bmw guy but i think it’s wrong to put basically all bmw parts in a toyota that has so much history behind it let’s be honest it’s a z4 with a body kit

    • @Krozhin
      @Krozhin Před 4 lety +4

      @@MalakhiW In all honesty the mk4 is not a good car at all, it's a grand tourer with extremely heavy drivetrain and bad handling
      The only reason the car is worshipped is because the iron block can take a huge amount of power
      Yeah it's got history but the new car is just better in every way, except for not having a manual option.

    • @Ren_1106
      @Ren_1106 Před 4 lety

      @@Krozhin older car is still better than new car. Less technical than new car and it can controls more better

    • @Krozhin
      @Krozhin Před 4 lety +1

      @@Ren_1106 what?

  • @robz1471
    @robz1471 Před 4 lety +47

    No thanks paddy
    No thanks bmw supra
    Yes chris
    Yes Toyota supra

  • @deriwhiteswift
    @deriwhiteswift Před 4 lety +5

    Anyone sees something strange with chris harris' head?

  • @Billiamiscool
    @Billiamiscool Před 4 lety +9

    I was genuinely surprised when I first saw this review, I was impressed how naturally Paddy seemed to step into car journalism

    • @ThatCarGuy458
      @ThatCarGuy458 Před 4 lety +1

      He is surprisingly good at it

    • @user-ol8ri4lb7d
      @user-ol8ri4lb7d Před 3 lety

      I know I was wondering why he was getting so much hate in the comments

  • @ONYX-365
    @ONYX-365 Před 4 lety +4

    *I wish Top Gear would do more on cars your average person can afford!*
    _Sub 50K cars, & more hot hatches_ 👌

  • @idknils2920
    @idknils2920 Před 4 lety +1

    Is it a Supra
    As long as it has the badge and the spirit
    YES

  • @quest8795
    @quest8795 Před 4 lety +10

    The fact we even *got* a new Supra that wasn't a hybrid or electric (or even a crossover SUV) is enough. The fact that it's made with German engineering is a good thing.
    It's a sports car, not a car made for people to say "ew BMW".

  • @mykevenable8180
    @mykevenable8180 Před 4 lety +6

    Finally, some good reporting, this !!

  • @aigriculteur
    @aigriculteur Před 4 lety +1

    Great chemistry between the two of them.

  • @DennisH22A
    @DennisH22A Před 4 lety +1

    lets take 5 seconds to appreciate the way chris harris ends his drifts so smoothly, its tough to do!

  • @crxdelsolsir
    @crxdelsolsir Před 4 lety +4

    "Is it a good sports car?" - Yes
    "But could it have been better if designed and built by Toyota in JAPAN" = Most certainly and Definitely YESSSS!!

    • @crxdelsolsir
      @crxdelsolsir Před 2 lety

      @TheEpic Triot Only the skin.
      The chassis is BMW aswell as the Engine.
      Every major component that makes a cars DNA.
      Let us reverse it, would it be a Ferrari or Mercedes if it was all Hyundai (engine, transmission, chassis etc) other than the outer skin, tuning, seats and steering wheel? I rest my case.

    • @crxdelsolsir
      @crxdelsolsir Před 2 lety

      @TheEpic Triot Keep justifying it but it is not what a Supra.
      Shared parts and chassis with another totally different maker is not how or what a Supra should be.
      Your argument is like justifying a BMW M3 or any BMW as not being a HYUNDAI because of tiny differences when the whole thing should be 100% unique and original.
      It is a Supra by name only tainted and unoriginal.
      More a totally different product that is not a Supra.

  • @ethan60645
    @ethan60645 Před 4 lety +15

    considering BMW has to recall them not toyota i’d say yes

  • @armthecyborg4021
    @armthecyborg4021 Před 4 lety

    I have not watched top gear from 2 years ago i miss this

  • @rabar7236
    @rabar7236 Před 4 lety +1

    That road (if I’m not mistaken and it is the same road - near Ammanford in Wales) is one of the greatest short piece of road in the world. I miss ragging down this road

  • @vigi_5192
    @vigi_5192 Před 4 lety +3

    Pros: It's a BMW
    Cons: It's a BMW

  • @yeahboy5744
    @yeahboy5744 Před 4 lety +29

    I whant to see now 2019 supra on forza horizon 4

    • @nitrokaiju
      @nitrokaiju Před 4 lety +3

      It'll most likey be shown around mid-end of January. Idk I'm not a Forza enthusiast.

    • @youssefkhaled9346
      @youssefkhaled9346 Před 4 lety +3

      Ohhh yesss

    • @dylanmore2627
      @dylanmore2627 Před 4 lety +4

      They already added it, it's called the 2019 bmw z4 (I'm joking I also want the supra added as well)

    • @boostfrog.
      @boostfrog. Před 4 lety +1

      Maybe you whill...

    • @CashMason4
      @CashMason4 Před 4 lety +1

      dylan more the old Supra is in fh4 but not the new one.

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance Před 4 lety

    2:23 The Z4 owner is going to be pissed he when sees a bunch of rock chips in his paint 🤣

  • @burksyy
    @burksyy Před 4 lety +1

    One of the things that made the MKI4 legendary was what you could with it tuning wise. So far the MKI5 is looking good for that

  • @jorgnyoa3561
    @jorgnyoa3561 Před 4 lety +3

    I went to a dealer 2 hours away just to sit in one. And it didt feel like a toyota at all. I got a massive bmw feel the moment i sat down

  • @yissibiiyte
    @yissibiiyte Před 4 lety +3

    The question is how much did Toyota pay for this video?

  • @EdwardChew
    @EdwardChew Před 4 lety

    what ascent is that?

  • @sledstorm4703
    @sledstorm4703 Před 3 lety

    Bruh it even has the BMW "ding" when opening a door

  • @svenzerx8490
    @svenzerx8490 Před 4 lety +3

    but the mk4 was modded on steroids which was perfect 💀👌

  • @akeelabbas28
    @akeelabbas28 Před 4 lety +3

    Me: I will never buy this it's not a real supra
    Also me: I cant afford this anyways

  • @TheWutangclan1995
    @TheWutangclan1995 Před 4 lety +1

    This car makes me think of the LFA the closest thing to being the new Supra minus the price.

  • @ukkomies100
    @ukkomies100 Před 4 lety +2

    Such a beautifull car. I hope that its good in the future and proves to be a good tuning platform as it now is starting to look to be. If so i am eager to see what happens amongs the euro and jdm communities

  • @Joel_B07
    @Joel_B07 Před 4 lety +16

    I miss the Old top gear!

  • @kurniawanutama7134
    @kurniawanutama7134 Před 4 lety +8

    I cant wait for Toyota Supra M Power

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 Před 4 lety

      BMW said no M version for the Z4 so you're just dreaming waiting for an M Sushi

  • @VitaliiTrofymenko
    @VitaliiTrofymenko Před 4 lety

    Does anyone know where this video was shot?

  • @wandilemyambo7702
    @wandilemyambo7702 Před 4 lety

    It shoulda been Chris Harris from the beginning, that's the right way to make a Top Gear review episode

  • @shoryuXE10
    @shoryuXE10 Před 4 lety +12

    it'd have a 2jz up front? in 2019? you realize the entire jz line of engines has been dead for over a decade, right?

    • @tentend321
      @tentend321 Před 4 lety

      true ;)

    • @dbnpoldermans4120
      @dbnpoldermans4120 Před 4 lety +4

      So you are saying that it would be impossible to start building the 2jz again?

    • @joshschegan
      @joshschegan Před 4 lety +3

      @@dbnpoldermans4120 If they did it would be a completely new engine anyway. Tbh they could just secretly hide the fact its a BMW and name this engine 'the new 2jz'. It would work for most people anyway

    • @tentend321
      @tentend321 Před 4 lety

      @@dbnpoldermans4120 if they would normal users wouldnt care

    • @k0ppit
      @k0ppit Před 4 lety +6

      @@dbnpoldermans4120 The 2JZ would not meet emissions restrictions so they would need to completley redesign the engine.

  • @k7y
    @k7y Před 4 lety +5

    the other guy doesn't know nothing about cars, he's just reading the script

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw Před 4 lety

      ace iimov and you appear to not know anything about English.

  • @alexho9987
    @alexho9987 Před 4 lety

    never before have I clicked out of a video after realising this was the new top gear

  • @letsrollout7307
    @letsrollout7307 Před 4 lety

    The chemistry is there 😁😁😁👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾. Feels better thank the last team . I like it 🥰🥰😊😊 . Great show guys

  • @petitglu007
    @petitglu007 Před 4 lety +15

    Lots of pieces badged bmw. A lot! It s more a bmw than a Toyota....

  • @oxyriamz
    @oxyriamz Před 4 lety +4

    This bloke accent is totally liverpoolish

  • @Angrytoaster1
    @Angrytoaster1 Před 4 lety

    The best comment is @5:15... while going side ways...stretching the seat belts...sliding sideways at full throttle like its another day in the office. Well done - I am truly impressed!

  • @dbnpoldermans4120
    @dbnpoldermans4120 Před 4 lety +1

    Chris Harris speaks clearly and understandable.
    Those other 2 geezers, nobody outside of the UK understands them and also are no gearheads
    Of course it's a good car. BMW & Toyota

  • @Gme_Say
    @Gme_Say Před 4 lety +5

    A supra with every of bmw🤦‍♂️

  • @thetitan6979
    @thetitan6979 Před 4 lety +11

    It's sad to see a legend of a car lose its soul

    • @carboydorifutoparty3976
      @carboydorifutoparty3976 Před 4 lety

      I'm honestly lost when people call it a legend when the legend also shared its i6 from another car,shared it's chassis from another car,and had a close design to another car.

    • @sunrisesunset1734
      @sunrisesunset1734 Před 4 lety

      You're absoluely incorrect. The Toyota Supra's soul is the 3.0 litre straight six engine balance, performance and tunability. Look at the Nissan Skyline. It no longer exists. The Nissan GT-R is a different type of car all together, nothing done to preserve the 'soul' of the car.

    • @thetitan6979
      @thetitan6979 Před 4 lety +1

      @@sunrisesunset1734 i get that but the GT-R is designed and egrenierend and build in japan while the new supra is more like getting catfished. you expect a girl but it turned out its a dude with girly bonestucture.
      If even the engine is from BMW then its not a supra its a dam BMW . And i say that as a german.

    • @sunrisesunset1734
      @sunrisesunset1734 Před 4 lety

      @@thetitan6979 Nahhhh, Toyota can't do everything all at once man. Where is Nissan or Mazda in WRC? Have you SEEN that Toyota Yaris?? OMG!

    • @thetitan6979
      @thetitan6979 Před 4 lety

      @@sunrisesunset1734 so you are going to tell me that a company like toyota that is worth over 230 billion dollars and has thousands of employees. And a company like BMW that is 54 billion is unable to design a sports car by them selfs...... But a few engenieres at Ford can go of after work and design the Ford GT in there free time without the company Knowing it and then produce it.....

  • @reapertalon
    @reapertalon Před 3 lety

    Imagine if clarkson was reviewing this car, he would be powersliding all over the place, screaming "SPPEEEEEEDDDDD!!!!!!!!"

  • @fluffyfarrow8244
    @fluffyfarrow8244 Před 3 lety +2

    If I’m not mistaken Toyota is one of the top 3 largest car manufacturers// yeah they can afford to make a sports car without help// it’s a shame they decided to go the easier route // the results a car that lost its soul // Toyota just once deliver with true passion 😪

  • @ashishpeddada7469
    @ashishpeddada7469 Před 4 lety +9

    The accent is a wee bit Scottish 😂😂😂

  • @joshschegan
    @joshschegan Před 4 lety +15

    All of the hates on the new Supra, but in Japan itself this new "Supra" is very well perceived

    • @hellobooom
      @hellobooom Před 4 lety +5

      Didn't know they were into BMWs

    • @KeenanStyles
      @KeenanStyles Před 4 lety +5

      That's because the people here dont live in a constant haze of stupidity like fan boys who've never owned any time if Supra to begin with across the internet crying about the new car. Even Orido the Supra god is in love with this car and his credibility and word has way more meaning than the typical internet fan boys who can only wish they had a Supra.

    • @epicshade3463
      @epicshade3463 Před 4 lety

      I think that's because they actually trust and put faith into the successor of one of the engineers who originally built the car now.But to other people they wont let it go and realize the actual good reasons why they decided to go this route. Just saying this video proves my point in a lot of ways. The actual heritage of the actual engineering is carried on in it.

  • @blicknessraven
    @blicknessraven Před 4 lety

    Gotta say, I love Paddy's analogy on going to Lidl and finding Waitrose items in your shopping... It kinda fits

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah...but BMW are legendarily unreliable. They have two totally different engineering philosophies. BMW don't engineer stuff to last or engineer it as thoroughly as Toyota. Toyota are a better car company than BMW. BMW are all about the illusion of quality and they give you stuff that hasn't been developed properly to do it. Toyota know what type of cars they want to make and do it properly. Look at any M3 or M5...they don't last high mileage well at all. They don't even make it to normal miles without costing you money. Compare a 10 year old Lexus ISF Vs an e92 BMW M3. The BMW will have cost you a fortune to run for 200k miles, the lexus will not have cost you a penny outside of standard maintenance.

    • @blicknessraven
      @blicknessraven Před 4 lety

      @@MD-uu5nt that has been the main talking point. But despite that unreliability, BMW's are still seen as more desirable than Toyotas. Still, a £53000odd car is hard to argue a case for under austerity and climate issue debates, one could surmise that it wouldn't have really been built with economy in mind. Even Teslas. Especially Teslas.

  • @alexclark6777
    @alexclark6777 Před 4 lety +1

    "And just like t'Supra from t'nineties, this'un comes with only an automa... oh 'ang on a minute mi'duck!"

  • @Miguelito0oO
    @Miguelito0oO Před 4 lety +3

    True fact, the lad is right! If it’s a good sports car the rest doesn’t matters!!

    • @user-tb5ns7hc5i
      @user-tb5ns7hc5i Před 4 lety +1

      Miguel Trust me, if you’ve ever owned and appreciated a Celica, MR2, Supra, GT86... It matters a lot. No self respecting previous Toyota sportscar owner would buy this thing. Period. This car needed to be more LFA. Not a BMW. :(

    • @Miguelito0oO
      @Miguelito0oO Před 4 lety

      YSG 2017 you won’t find an old school feeling japanese car in nowadays new car market. Example NSX, celica Ask yourself why and If you can’t accept it buy an old car. For the time being a Supra is a good sports car, that’s a fact.

    • @user-tb5ns7hc5i
      @user-tb5ns7hc5i Před 4 lety

      Miguel a Supra buyer doesn’t want an old school feeling car, they want a Japanese Toyota feeling car. If you’ve owned one, the design, balance, and feel is unique and instantly comfortable and recognizable. Such nuances are missing in sterile BMWs. Japanese and German Engineering are both excellent, but come from very different trains of thought and approach and discipline.

    • @Miguelito0oO
      @Miguelito0oO Před 4 lety

      YSG 2017 BMWs are one of the best handling cars in the world that’s a fact too. If they were sterile you couldn’t handle it as easy as it looks in this video and Harris admits they are good handling sport cars. The character of a modern Toyota is sterile. So sorry for you that you won’t find in the new market what you are looking for.

    • @user-tb5ns7hc5i
      @user-tb5ns7hc5i Před 4 lety

      Miguel it’s not about handling or luxury or performance. It’s about essence. Character. Feel. Imagine dating super models from all corners of the globe. They are all beautiful and hot, yet very different. Toyota’s flagship sportscar brand icon is now German. Doesn’t make any sense at all.

  • @arnoldmbuthia2687
    @arnoldmbuthia2687 Před 4 lety +4

    Even tho I'm missing some words from Mr. Paddy, I still massively prefer him to Leblanc

  • @UssyMustyYS
    @UssyMustyYS Před 4 lety +2

    Still can't believe EA didn't add this car in NFS heat. Smh

    • @AXSHL
      @AXSHL Před 4 lety +2

      Toyota don't want their cars in illegal street racing games

    • @sunrisesunset1734
      @sunrisesunset1734 Před 4 lety

      Yeah, with some bull$hit failure of an excuse.

  • @bugjuicer
    @bugjuicer Před 4 lety

    Is the sound pumped in to the cabin..?

  • @EazyE373
    @EazyE373 Před 4 lety +4

    Bloody hell you lot are late aren’t you

  • @tomaszbudnik521
    @tomaszbudnik521 Před 4 lety +23

    is chassis made by Toyota?
    is engine made by Toyota?
    is this car made in Japan?
    This is BMW not Toyota... end of story...

  • @HoweDoYouDo1999
    @HoweDoYouDo1999 Před 3 lety

    Aw for god sake can the Internet give it a rest already 😂😂

  • @questionablename1746
    @questionablename1746 Před 4 lety

    Everybody gangsta until toyota says *CHECK ENGINE*

  • @nikomoin7604
    @nikomoin7604 Před 4 lety +5

    The only really annoying thing is the absence of a manual gearbox

  • @Tzekkie
    @Tzekkie Před 3 lety +17

    Please, stop calling this "Top Gear". It's embarrassing

  • @QuickExpertReviews
    @QuickExpertReviews Před 4 lety

    Is that the guy from "what's heavier, a kilogram of steel or a kilogram of feather"?

  • @walqadi5
    @walqadi5 Před 4 lety

    Where is the rest of this?

  • @christopherrod7
    @christopherrod7 Před 4 lety +19

    5:40 He asked him if it was a good sports car? As if that will justify it as a Supra. This may be a good sports car but it's no supra, and that's what the nice/newbie guy doesn't understand - it's about character and experience. Chris appreciates not just the engineering, but the character and culture behind the legendary mk4

  • @urock12201
    @urock12201 Před 4 lety +5

    3:47 can someone translate? lol

    • @MrAlexTech
      @MrAlexTech Před 4 lety

      "Imagine doing your weekly grocery shop at Wall-Mart, getting home and finding your bags are full of Trader Joe's gear"
      Basically, buying something cheap and actually getting something better quality than expected 😆👍

  • @pistolero323
    @pistolero323 Před 4 lety +2

    Bmw makes good inline motors like the n54 was the german 2JZ. I camt wait to see some 1000hp builds on this

  • @rickholmwood2000
    @rickholmwood2000 Před 4 lety

    WOW! That's super heavy!