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Greetings. I come from an alternate timeline where the Paper Mario series never diverged from its RPG roots. It turns out fans from my timeline are complaining that Paper Mario is stale and repetitive. They even want the next game to be completely different and have wacky mechanics. It looks like Paper Mario fans are never happy in any timeline.
That's Paper Mario Fans as a whole. after TTYD released, none of them were ever happy again. I wouldn't be surprised if Paper Mario Fans are still unhappy with TTYD HD and continue to complain (kind of why they Should have done a Paper Mario all-stars collection and release the first 3 together as a collection, a celebration of the original trilogy that started it all)
Nah we would be better off. At least Sticker Star as we have it now would have never happened.
@@goldenyoshistar1yeah blame the fans for shitty games makes sense
It's possible to have a game that does new things that don't come at the expense of every old thing that made the series great in the first place. If they went with the formula of story, worldbuilding, characters, and gameplay of the first two Paper Mario games, and seamlessly incorporated the sticker, paint, and origami mechanics into that gameplay in their respective titles, those games would be incredible and each have brought something new and fresh to the table.
Imagine bro isn’t joking
My first Paper Mario game was Color Splash, and I thought it was fantastic. I cannot describe how much I played that game. So I’ve never understood the criticism against it. I felt like it definitely had unique characters, but I get that Paper Mario has gone all over the place, and would love to see more original enemies.
You didn't understand the criticism because it was your first Paper Mario game, it's like when fans of Final Fantasy XIII say that was their first Final Fantasy game and they don't understand the hate for it. I didn't get to play Color Splash because I played Sticker Star and hated it and Color Splash was looking more of the same so I avoided it even though I owned a Wii U and no other games were coming out for the thing. Have you played Paper Mario 64? It still holds up really well so I would recommend giving it a try on Nintendo Switch to get an idea of how PM TTYD will play. PM 64 was always my favorite and I wish that one would get a remake first but I love TTYD just as much now.
@@ChrisMS0815 I just started paper Mario 64 and I immediately see the difference. The Goomba king and unique story elements. Thanks for the recommendation. So stoked to play TTYD.
@@AnimatedStarWarsNerd Thats cool to hear, I actually feel like replaying it myself now.
Hopefully things will change after the remake.🙏
If it works I'd love a stickers star remake where they actually put what was supposed to be in the game, the things that was in the beta.
They pretty much limited themselves after super paper Mario with story and art. The paper Mario series has some of the best artwork and even story but Nintendo basically had it limited to prevent any more creativity which made many of the later games feel hollow.
Hopefully after ttyd they see how people loved this game and we could possibly get a remake of og with the ttyd engine and super paper Mario. Or remake the entire games and be a modern version of both versions with more features
paper mario fans, will never be satisfied with what they've got. TTYD hasn't even came out yet and u guys are already wanting more. I do agree with a pm64 and spm remake.
@@thewanderingchelmet sounds like a hater. Watch how fast people will be gushing over ttyd. No response this was a waste
Paper mario has always been a mid series sorry to say it but its true. Its on the same tier as fire emblem for Nintendos franchises
You can see small glimpses of a good story in Sticker Star if you look close enough. I bet the original story was going to be something like seven corrupted monarchs that took control of the environment/inhabitants around them. The unused animations for Mario heavily imply a lot of scrapped cutscenes, like Mario thinking while walking. I really hope that game can finish what it started in 2028.
I wish we could've seen Paper Mario Sticker Star had it not diverged from its roots. Its beta looked so cool with a really vibrant artstyle!
I'm 1% of people who started playing Paper Mario games with Paper Mario Sticker Star on a Nintendo 3ds, it's hard to believe that game is over a freaking 10 years old and 3DS is too, that makes me to feel an old. I have Paper Mario Color Splash on Wii U (3DS Sticker Star is a way better than Color Splash in my opinion) and Origami King on Switch, defienitily Origami King is the Best Paper Mario game of All Time what I've played, but can't wait i'm sonexcited for the Upcoming Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door HD Remake in may, I've never had a Nintendo Gamecube so i'm hyped The Thousand Year Door Remake is coming and I can have the Experiebce of TYD! 😮❤
I really want to know what you think of ttyd after you play 🙏🏽
I think you'll like it. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door was the first Paper Mario game to not have Bowser as the main antagonist of the game. Don't worry, I won't spoil anything. I will say this about it. The game play is fun and intuitive, the story is pretty good, and the characters are pretty good. I personally have really good memories of the GameCube version. It takes what the original game on the N64 did and improves on it. It's definitely worth getting in my opinion.
Honestly
Might not be your cup of tea but I encourage you to try it anyways
@@unquestionableexistance8704 yeah, I will try TYD, I've been heard it's the Best Paper Mario game ever, but for me nothing can win Origami King.
@@angelxcamacho5867 i should share that after play it. :)
The remake will change everything for paper Mario and Mario rpgs in general I believe :)
I hope so too. We just can't screw this up, with all the surveys and how well the game will sell and stuff. I hope it will massively outsell origami king.
I would have definitely made it to where stickers never disappear they act like badges and the more you level up your jump by fighting it gets shinier and more powerful make you have to fight to level up your stickers by using them and then you could find hidden stickers throughout the world by exploring and legendary stickers you earn by beating the bosses you can’t level theses one up but it would act like og paper Mario where you would have to sleep to recharge them
It does make me wonder what it would've been like if Paper Mario hadn't gone down the route it did with Paper Mario: Sticker Star. Sticker Star was my first introduction into the Paper Mario series that I loved playing through when I was younger. But I'm excited to see what will change for the series as a whole with TTYD Remake's release next month.
It's pretty crazy how Paper Mario Sticker star was originally going to be a completely different game!
I loved it i dont understand why everyone hated it though it was my first paper mario.
Same here
If Nintendo and Intelligent Systems wants to redeem Sticker Star, Color Splash & The Origami King with help from fans, I'd gladly assist since I'm a fan of the latter and making a rewrite/ rework concept for all of them on Google Docs right now.
That is honestly so cool for you! If you could share a doc when you are done that would be awesome.
@@Ninitendo That's what I plan to do.
I hope after the ttyd remake things will change then we can have the paper Mario we want
I come from a alternate timeline, we got a Super Paper Mario remake instead of the Thousand year door remake.
Anyone from the timeline Banjo Threeie actually was a platformer and not Nuts and Bolts?
I wish this actually happened paper Mario sticker star was one of the first and best paper Mario games I played when I was younger , and still even after so many years I still cherish it in my heart :D!❤️
Short Answer: The Paper Mario series would have a much better reputation today and it wouldn't have had to wait over a decade to become "good" again. I really liked the early stages of sticker star, but I really think if not that, they should have chosen a playstyle similar to Super Paper Mario because it being on the 3Ds, it would have made a great use of the 3D feature the console had, and on top of that, it would seem like a proper sequel to the Wii game. Obviously we would need the older ideas and not generic ones to make that work regardless, but it would have made the game more decent then what we got as a final result.
I honestly like the changes in the series, it makes me want to try all of the games in it.
I am of the unpopular opinion that paper Mario sticker star is not a bad game, perhaps even a little good
I don't think it's the most awful video game in the world. But as an Paper Mario game, it is pretty bad and the worst of the series.
Nah its just not a good game.
I love the sound design and visuals from Sticker Star onward so it's so good to see it married with TTYD.
The sad fact about this is that sticker star was going to be completely different. When looking at the unused beta it was going to be a lot more unique and although miyamoto dismissed it as a “port of the GameCube version” and asked them to revise it. They shouldn’t have erased all the unique charm of the paper Mario franchise. They could of made it different from thousand year door and still have that unique charm
Im so glad we’re getting a return to form so we can vote with our wallets . I feel like all the games since TTYD could’ve used their gimmick but centered around the battle system . The Bob bomb story in Origami was amazing if we just had more personality other then “he’s a bomb”
Lore of What If Paper Mario Sticker Star Never Sucked... Momentum 100
There's this reviewer called The Red Guy that did an review of all the Paper Mario games ( except Origami King at the moment ) and he does this scenario of every single Paper Mario that were very flawed and how to fixed it. With the exception of 64 & TTYD of course. He does an " what if " these Paper Mario games were different than the originals & how can we make it better. He comes up with phenomenal ideas and his Sticker Star scenario is no exception.
I certainly love paper Mario stickers star not in your timeline but in the regular timeline
Then the fandom would not be very split.
Maybe once the developing minds play TTYD for the first time, they'll join our classic PM lovers.
They will still be angry stop forcing people
They will immediately be like: super paper mario next! or ttyd 2!!!
honestly, i kinda love all paper mario games even if sticker star and its successors were kinda flawed
origami king hard mid for me tho mostly due to the battle system, lit more fun to walk around the maps than fighting bosses in that game (again, for me/imo)
Greetings I come from a timeline where Mario wonder was never a Mario game to begin with
Aww, here I was thinking this was your new "What If?" episode...
The only thing I really enjoyed doing in “Sticker Star”, “Color Splash” and “The Origami King” was completing the museums. Museums hold treasures of the world out there, and a seeker always strives to learn about them. “Sticker Star” and “Color Splash” unfortunately had my least favorite museums while “The Origami King” tops them off. I also wonder what “The Thousand-Year Door” would do for Art and Music? Each museum in the latest 3 games had those, so I would like to see that in the remake. It would also be cool if the remake had a museum. Even if they don’t have a museum in the remake, it’s no problem. “The Thousand-Year Door” remains as my most favorite Paper Mario game.
Sticker star could’ve been a really good game if it had just stuck with it’s roots
For the Sticker Star fans out there. If you like it, is fine, no problem, please dont act surprised about a controversial game being controversial...
And it seem like in this time last game in the Mario timeline in my universe is paper Mario thousand years since the world died
all they would have needed to change was an EXP system, variable stats and add a badge system then people would have liked the game probably (it wouldn't be the most hated game in the series at least)
A better title would be paper mario and the sticker comet
Great idea imagine genders an alternate universe were sticker star was not bad and I imagine that one change just made world peace imagine just imagine
Super paper Mario:so? Where do I go? I go in the good games side or the bad games side?
I don't know about it but it would be still for sticker
I really hope that Nintendo opens their eyes after the release of ttyd and they return back to the roots
If Sticker Star had Badges instead of consumable attacks and an exp/level system where you chose to raise HP, FP, or BP it would have been great.
Me the only human who actually enjoyed the game:
Wrong
@@saxtonhale6029 I’m not the only one
Best paper Mario for me
@@thaomeelayadi that game is my first actual
Make it four!
...Wow.
I hope for the next Paper Mario game they add the special/real life items because that caught my attention
Imagine if Nintendo released Metroid Other M and made every following Metroid with the exact same direction as Other M
As 7-9 year old me i never understand the hate on this game, but now that im 15, i slightly understand why.
I prefer Sticker Star
do you know that one of those screenshots is not from the sticker star beta but from a mod?
Dude, we know this already. We get it, Sticker Star Bad, turn-based combat good. You can stop talking about it anytime now.
Also something I noticed: your channel description states you as a news source, so if you were trying to be a credible news source, you would try to mitigate bias as much as you can. Yet you have more bias than if my mother was on jury for my murder trial. I’m kind of embarrassed that I used to watch your videos. Disappointing.
I would actually like a Super Paper Mario sequel. That game never got a sequel and TTYD is getting a remake so that itch is scrated but not the aforementioned itch never scratched.
hi Nin10doland
I really want to know if modern mario and Paper mario are the same person
I think sticker star is great, i think nintendos stories arent great anyway so it dosent bother me. Nintendo is good at gameplay. Idk why story is that important imo!
Please make an earthbound/mother 3 video
It was pretty great to me, sucks that everytime i hear people talk about it its how much they hate it
Now give us a timeline where Mario and Zelda sucked
Its called real life
Well in all honesty sticker star in the beta looked like a masterpiece but they ruined it with the removal of rpg system, different characters which also means the story got affected by that aswell which just makes it feel bland and boring if you ask me the only enjoyable things about the game is the music and bosses then we got colour splash which was a lot better tbf but lacked the other things like you said the story lack of original characters and battle system they just made it better but didn’t do the main changes then a few years later we had origami king which was defo a great improvement aswell but also lacked some of the same problems like the battle system which would’ve been better if they just made it turn based and normal rpg elements and then also I think the fact of saving toads and not other people was just a bit repetitive cause you didn’t get different ones that had some unique design but however it still felt like a great produced game from Nintendo but lacked a few things in all honesty paper Mario had a great track record with 64,ttyd and super paper Mario which was imo all great games then it had a downfall when sticker star came out and then we had colour splash which was also not great but revived it a bit then origami king which revived it a little aswell in all honestly now we just gotta play this ttyd hd remake and see if it’s still amazing and maybe Nintendo will change their minds and make a change for the better.
sticker star was good and color splash was good too, some people just complain and look on the bad side of things too much :(
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We get it sticker star bad game can we please move on with our lives
NOT SCIENTFICLLY POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!
Alright. I understand you and some others might not like the newer games, but the crapping on Sticker Star thing is getting EXTREMELY old. This game has been out for like 11 years and honestly you’re just beating a dead horse at this point.
This is the biggest filler epoisode I’ve ever seen
I love this game idc what anybody says
paper mario is good, even sticker star and color splash, they are underrated!
Well, if you see them as seperate games...
Like other Mario games. Just play these if you want a story like that.
But the reason I play paper mario is for the story, characters and also the fun and engaging battle system and I like ttyd, 64 and even Super (for its story). And so, Sticker Star and Color Splash can go. Origami King was fine, and I also thought it took a step in the right direction, but still. These games can go now and be forgotten, while we get ttyd 2, 3, 4, 5...(Like, games that feel like sequels to ttyd). But if you like these, then fine. Just please don't tell nintendo or something. You can go and play any other Mario game, if you want a story like that.
@@memekyu_memesif you play games for the story, just look up the story. Don’t waste your money. Play games for the gameplay. I’ve never even played a paper Mario game, I just know story does not matter nearly as much as most people say it does.
@@memekyu_memesif you play Mario for the story then I think you have a problem…
@@minecrafter3448 Even without a good story the gameplay is also bad though. The battle system is horrible.
@@user-kx6hs6fe6u Its the Paper Mario series. Its not the same as the platformer games and thats why we expect it to have a good story because its an RPG and because the previous Paper Mario games had better stories.
Sticker star doesn’t suck it just isn’t as good as the other paper Mario games.
sticker star, color splash, and oragami king should not be compared to thousand year door and 64 but they are good. really you shouldn't compare Minecraft to terria would you?
Thats a false equivalency. Minecraft and Terraria are not part of the same game series while all of the Paper Mario games are PART OF THE PAPER MARIO SERIES. Because they are part of the same series it is fair to compare them to each other. Why would you not compare them to each other? You think Zelda or Mario fans don't compare the different games in there respective series with each other?
If its fine for them to compare those games to each other why not the Paper Mario games? To me you sound like your trying to cope with the fact that Sticker Star is a bad game.
"DoN'T CoMPAre THaT to tHe BEtteR GaMe. ThAT MAkEs it lOoK bAD!"
Im sorry but Sticker Star already is a bad game even if you don't compare it to the previous games anyway.
@@user-md7er6xe2z fine would you copare mother to mother 3?
@@mariomario-tv1yo Yeah, are they not part of the Mother series? Ive never played them but I don't see why I would not compare them if I did.
@@user-md7er6xe2z mother is more of older rpg styled like dragon quest and mother 3 is like paper mario but there both great in their ways like sticker star and color splash
@@mariomario-tv1yo Well you just compared them. So the answer to your question is: Yes you can compare them. I would compare them to if I played both.
47 seconds and no views? This channel really fell off
Wut
It's not, i'm a new subscriber! 😅
Why do these bot comments get so many likes? Are people really that gullible?
Sticker star was not that bad
I personally am not a big fan of the 1st 2 paper Mario Games
What one is your favourite?
The ink jars were my concept art
I don't know what your talking about Paper Mario Sticker Star is an amazing game
Funny thing is paper Mario sticker star is a masterpiece unlike ttyd
Good bait bro
@@JoseViktor4099 what?
Do you need to blow your nose?
First!!!🎉🎉🎉
You’re actually second
Okay, Sticker Star in my opinion never did suck, it wasn’t the best game, but I thought it was great (And nostalgic now too)
👇 Agree?
Unrelated but since Pokémon is an rpg, it would be cool if there was a collab of Paper Mario and pokemon
Can't we start talking about a different topic?
Paper mario sticker star was never a bad game
Sticker star is a 3DS Games and you won't be playing it for a long bit time just a little bit so It's only bad if you compare it to the other at the other older paper Mario games
No its also just bad on its own as well. The game has a ridiculous amount of back tracking that wastes your time and world 3 is horrible. Sticker Star is my fist and the only Paper Mario game I have ever played and I still think it sucks. Even with no previous Paper Mario games to compare it to I still think its a bad game.
ok
It doesn’t suck i’ve played every single paper Mario game from the Nintendo 64 the Wii version the GameCube version Even the one for the switch and my all-time favorite before I played sticker star was the thousand year old door but after I played sticker star iPhone love with this game and it became my number one paper Mario game in the world
Let's be honest... if Sticker Star had went in the direction of how the classic games were... we wouldn't have had those who were very avid TTYD fans be extremely toxic towards those who liked those games. Especially on the Paper Mario Subreddit itself where even praising Sticker Star over TTYD leads to those to be silenced. Maybe Mario and Luigi Paper Jam would have done far better and we might have gotten a Mario and Luigi 6, 7, possibly 8? and we wouldn't have a dead franchise because they wouldn't have done remakes.
In an alternative future, people like Chuggaconroy wouldn't have gone on his whole Sticker Star rant, as he would have been fine with it and would have done all the Paper Mario Games. Same with someone like Arlo, who was honestly the pioneer of the whole hashtag remakettyd thing.
Honestly, I'd be fine if Origami King stayed the same but Sticker Star and Color Splash changing would have been a nice idea.
Can’t we just be excited about TTYD without dumping on the newer games for the one hundred and eightieth time? I’m so sick of this.
Paper msrio has the most petty manchild fanbase of all time
Yes! I understand that some people don’t like the newer games and that is completely fine, but constantly dunking on them is not going to solve anything.
But it didnt suck. Sticker star was incredibly fun
Well I am from a third timeline where TTYD is the worst of them all and Sticker Star is by far the best!
But I love your universes version of TTYD and hate your version of Sticker Star 🤮! TTYD would here probably be my favourite game of all time, but in my universe it’s Sticker Star
Nah, I like the modern Paper Mario games :). Mainly Origami King, which in my opinion is the best Paper Mario. Maybe a few things could’ve been better, but I still think it’s the best
All paper mario games suck
I feel like Nintendo should follow Goomzilla & PaperMrio's styles of Paper Mario with creative storytelling, original characters, & RPG battles, but now I'm glad that Nintendo is starting to listen to their fans on fixing there RPG games.
nobody talks about how good origami king is
It was fun but the ending was anticlimactic, it was getting good then it ended…
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If Sticker Star was different Color Splsh and Oragami King would most likely not exist and/or would have been a completely different Paper Mario games.
To me, that sounds like an awful reality because I love those games :(
@@ClaireSoelberg-op8idsame! I wouldn’t be able to imagine a world without Color Splash.